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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Not looking good for France. More than 50% of cases in the ICU under 60 years old. Are we next? (Page 4 of 6)

Posted: 3/14/2020 7:34:23 PM EDT

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Has anybody else tried the first tweet? Looks like it may have been deleted.

Posted: 3/14/2020 7:41:10 PM EDT

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I think there is some things we are still not being told.
I think it may be rapid spread quickly shutting everything down but who knows.
Post all the Panic MEME's you want but don't come knocking on my door for help.

Posted: 3/14/2020 7:42:40 PM EDT

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GD loves liberals when they're wanting to be protected. No way she made a fake tweet to spread panic.

Posted: 3/14/2020 7:43:31 PM EDT

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So, to what do we attribute Germany's low mortality rate?

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I believe ssisimo (sp?) the Italian doctor in the other thread that Germany is cooking the books when it comes to Covid19 deaths.

Posted: 3/14/2020 7:43:58 PM EDT

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I believe ssisimo (sp?) the Italian ~~doctor~~Psychiatrist in the other thread that Germany is cooking the books when it comes to Covid19 deaths.

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FTFY

Posted: 3/14/2020 7:44:05 PM EDT

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Go take a walk around Walmart and get back to me how healthy us Americans are.

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Frenchies are in bad health, they smoke like chimneys, and sit around drinking wine all day. No surprise a high percentage of them under 60 don't weather this virus well.

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Posted: 3/14/2020 7:45:37 PM EDT

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Go take a walk around Walmart and get back to me how healthy us Americans are.

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Go take a walk around Walmart and get back to me how healthy us Americans are.

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Frenchies are in bad health, they smoke like chimneys, and sit around drinking wine all day. No surprise a high percentage of them under 60 don't weather this virus well.

Obesity seems to be a fairly fatal co-morbidity with this one.

Posted: 3/14/2020 7:45:37 PM EDT

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And do those all of those need to be there, or are they there out of convenience because there's only 300 and they have the capacity?

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Wait for real? We're there right now?

South Korea's been there for a day or two, but now Italy? Even Italy with its issues?

ETA: the "half" number in france is ~150.
Again I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest the other half aren't.

Would be very interesting to find out of those first 150, what the story is.

And do those all of those need to be there, or are they there out of convenience because there's only 300 and they have the capacity?

A great question.
Do we even know if that news is real, or just a twitter checkmark?

I think it was attributed to a French government official - but again stuff gets attributed to US officials and it turns out to be untrue on a pretty regular basis.

I think the "whys" are interesting and often enlightening.
Italy's data, on their deaths, average age, 81. As of yesterday that was the case.
It's mirroring ours.
IIRC South Korea's is the same.

It's logical to scratch your head and wonder, "if the twitter checkmark is right, that's interesting to see so many youngsters, what happened?"

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No it's not because of that. The CFR is currently 35x higher.

4x the flu is wishful thinking.

The fact that you're a healthcare worker and not taking this seriously is appalling. Though fortunately, I'm guessing you're pretty low on the totem pole. AEMT?

Up to half of all cases will be asymptomatic the entire duration.

That tells me the CFR is at least half of what is currently being reported. We also don't really know how many people get the flu every year, we just estimate it and take a well educated guess.

This is what has me pointing to the South Korean data as it has the largest sample, and doesn't have the great firewall of China situation

They had a very efficient testing situation, and they tested a fuckton of people.

They came up with around .7

Posted: 3/14/2020 7:46:45 PM EDT

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GD loves liberals when they're wanting to be protected. No way she made a fake tweet to spread panic.

The theologians from the toiletpaper hoarder thread are going to be crushed if they find out they have to pull another "i ToLd U sO" off the board.

ETA: appears they don't.

Posted: 3/14/2020 7:51:32 PM EDT

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de Gaulle mandated that in 46. It's a plan to keep Germany out by being stinky. Pepe Le Pew first appeared in 45 as a psy-op forerunner of the plan. He was designed to create a cognitive precondition that would make people more readily accept that France and her people were stinky and unpleasant.

Posted: 3/14/2020 8:11:54 PM EDT

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Probably because 95% of those filthy fuckers smoke

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Exactly this.... Same as China.

Posted: 3/14/2020 8:15:30 PM EDT

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Is the virus killing healthy people yet?

Not yet, so quit being panicked

Posted: 3/14/2020 8:18:44 PM EDT

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Its gonna be bad news bears if we find out the fatality rates increases with obese population. Pretty much confirmed with smokers, and others with respiratory ailments.

Posted: 3/14/2020 8:22:25 PM EDT

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The EU should start a rumor that Africa is virus free.

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I sponsored two health care professionals from a country in Sub-Saharan Africa to come to the US and shadow us for a month over this past winter. They told me they have no influenza there. They got flu shots as soon as they landed here.

Posted: 3/14/2020 8:25:09 PM EDT

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How does that happen isolation?

Posted: 3/14/2020 8:26:15 PM EDT

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So, to what do we attribute Germany's low mortality rate?

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They lie

They declare you dead from secondary cause

Posted: 3/14/2020 8:27:04 PM EDT

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Its gonna be bad news bears if we find out the fatality rates increases with obese population. Pretty much confirmed with smokers, and others with respiratory ailments.

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That's true, it would if true.

Posted: 3/14/2020 8:30:27 PM EDT

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Posted: 3/14/2020 8:31:01 PM EDT

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So, to what do we attribute Germany's low mortality rate?

Germany.
Confirmed: 4,515
Deaths: 8
Recovered: 46
Active: 4,461

They lie

They declare you dead from secondary cause

Our flu statistics this year rolled deaths from viral pneumonia and anything with flu-like symptoms, even without a positive flu test, into overall flu deaths.

Posted: 3/14/2020 8:31:33 PM EDT

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Up to half of all cases will be asymptomatic the entire duration.

That tells me the CFR is at least half of what is currently being reported. We also don't really know how many people get the flu every year, we just estimate it and take a well educated guess.

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No it's not because of that. The CFR is currently 35x higher.

4x the flu is wishful thinking.

The fact that you're a healthcare worker and not taking this seriously is appalling. Though fortunately, I'm guessing you're pretty low on the totem pole. AEMT?

Up to half of all cases will be asymptomatic the entire duration.

That tells me the CFR is at least half of what is currently being reported. We also don't really know how many people get the flu every year, we just estimate it and take a well educated guess.

Look at how the CDC comes up with the flu numbers. Imho, they are padded to get the numbers up so more people get the flu shot.

Posted: 3/14/2020 8:32:58 PM EDT

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Coronavirus outbreak, France:

March 14: 4,499 cases
March 10: 1,784 cases
March 6: 653 cases
March 2: 191 cases
February 27: 38 cases
February 23: 12 cases
Norbert Elekes (@NorbertElekes) March 15, 2020

Guess we’ll see if we have over 5,000 cases within the next 4 days.

Posted: 3/14/2020 8:33:04 PM EDT

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The guys keeping track all died

Posted: 3/14/2020 8:33:10 PM EDT

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Probably because 95% of those filthy fuckers smoke

Ding Ding Ding Ding... we have a winner already

Yes. China is where we were 40-50 years ago. Half of all adult males and one-third of adult females are smokers. That, and shockingly high levels of airborne pollution.
I doubt France or Italy are as polluted as China, but I bet they have high levels of smoking.

Posted: 3/14/2020 8:34:44 PM EDT

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A lot of y'all think this is a nothingburger. You are wrong. It hasn't had time to develop here yet. The good thing is, it appears to not harm small children, unless they are already sick with something else.

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Transmission from mothers to newborn babies have in fact happened worldwide.

Case # 1 "Whether the baby contracted the virus in the womb or during labor is unknown". >That is worrisome.

A newborn baby in London has become the youngest person in the world to test positive for coronavirus
https://www.businessinsider.com/newborn-baby-tests-positive-for-coronavirus-in-london-world-youngest-2020-3

Case # 2 "The baby’s mother had tested positive for coronavirus before giving birth".

30-Hour-Old Newborn Baby Diagnosed with Coronavirus in Youngest Case Yet (China)
https://people.com/health/30-hour-old-newborn-baby-diagnosed-coronavirus-youngest-case-yet/

Posted: 3/14/2020 8:35:51 PM EDT

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No it's not because of that. The CFR is currently 35x higher.

4x the flu is wishful thinking.

The fact that you're a healthcare worker and not taking this seriously is appalling. Though fortunately, I'm guessing you're pretty low on the totem pole. AEMT?

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Why is it 4 times that of the flu? Is it because we only have enough test kits to test the most severely sick...bingo!

I working on the front lines today. I am watching it unfold in front of me. NOBODY qualifies for a test.

No it's not because of that. The CFR is currently 35x higher.

4x the flu is wishful thinking.

The fact that you're a healthcare worker and not taking this seriously is appalling. Though fortunately, I'm guessing you're pretty low on the totem pole. AEMT?

uh. Lug is saying that patients who maybe positive are not meeting the testing requirements. So the numbers are understated. He isn't ignoring the issue.

Posted: 3/14/2020 8:40:43 PM EDT

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I was curious about the US recovery rate a few days ago.

The confirmed count went from like 600 to 1300...and the recovered count stayed at 8.

Made me curious why that was.

Now our confirmed infected count is at 2,572 and out recovered count is at 12.

Still wondering....

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Recent infections, this thing kills slow.

8 dead, 46 recovered isn't exactly painting a rosy picture

I was curious about the US recovery rate a few days ago.

The confirmed count went from like 600 to 1300...and the recovered count stayed at 8.

Made me curious why that was.

Now our confirmed infected count is at 2,572 and out recovered count is at 12.

Still wondering....

Probably because they keep extending the official recovery time. Does "recovery" mean "left the hospital, not expected to relapse" or does it mean "still probably has viruses in their system & maybe contagious?"

Posted: 3/14/2020 8:41:03 PM EDT

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Posted: 3/14/2020 8:43:12 PM EDT

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Has anybody else tried the first tweet? Looks like it may have been deleted.

She removed it.

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GD loves liberals when they're wanting to be protected. No way she made a fake tweet to spread panic.

So, it’s your opinion that she attributed a false quote to the head of the French health service? I mean, that’s not hard to verify. Need me to help?

Posted: 3/14/2020 8:47:00 PM EDT

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People need to stop thinking this is going to be any different here, and stop making excuses why it's happening in other countries. We're all going to be effected by this in one form or another, and you best get your mind right now.

Posted: 3/14/2020 8:49:14 PM EDT

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Frenchies are in bad health, they smoke like chimneys, and sit around drinking wine all day. No surprise a high percentage of them under 60 don't weather this virus well.

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The average Frenchman (or any European) is healthier than the average American. French life expectancy is 3.5 years longer than American.

Posted: 3/14/2020 8:49:32 PM EDT

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How many under 60 in the US have underlying health issues? How many with diabetes and high blood pressure?

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Posted: 3/14/2020 8:50:56 PM EDT

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Let's not forget that the French are pussies

Posted: 3/14/2020 8:52:16 PM EDT

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Is the virus killing healthy people yet?

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What percentage of Americans qualify as healthy?

Posted: 3/14/2020 8:52:42 PM EDT

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That must be the reason their life expectancy is 79 years for males and 87 for females compared to 76.5 and 81 in US of A.

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We are a bunch of fat asses though.

Posted: 3/14/2020 8:55:37 PM EDT

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Is she saying they're only testing people that need medical attention and the CFR is probably way lower?

Posted: 3/14/2020 8:56:13 PM EDT

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Being prediabetic, and insulin resistant is actually worse than smoking 4 packs a day. The French are in great health compared to the US.

Posted: 3/14/2020 9:01:30 PM EDT

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It says that half of those in ICUs are under 60. What I want to know is what percentage of known infected are in ICUs.

Posted: 3/14/2020 9:03:12 PM EDT

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Why does no one mention the 400 recoveries in the same time period?

Posted: 3/14/2020 9:04:23 PM EDT

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Coronavirus outbreak, France:

March 14: 4,499 cases
March 10: 1,784 cases
March 6: 653 cases
March 2: 191 cases
February 27: 38 cases
February 23: 12 cases
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France has well over 5,000 cases.

They're missing the 80% with either no symptoms or mild symptoms.

Posted: 3/14/2020 9:05:12 PM EDT

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Transmission from mothers to newborn babies have in fact happened worldwide.

Case # 1 "Whether the baby contracted the virus in the womb or during labor is unknown". >That is worrisome.

A newborn baby in London has become the youngest person in the world to test positive for coronavirus
https://www.businessinsider.com/newborn-baby-tests-positive-for-coronavirus-in-london-world-youngest-2020-3

Case # 2 "The baby’s mother had tested positive for coronavirus before giving birth".

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The china case lived with no problems.

Posted: 3/14/2020 9:07:36 PM EDT

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We (the US) are also a bunch of pussies. Look at page one of ARFGD.

Posted: 3/14/2020 9:09:52 PM EDT

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I'm not sure about exercise but they definitely work less and their food doesn't have sugar and preservatives added to everything.

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Basically the whole rest of the world walks a lot more every day than we do. Walking is quietly one of the best exercises out there because it's enjoyable and doesn't wreck your joints.

Posted: 3/14/2020 9:10:23 PM EDT

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Another Silvercord panic thread.

Posted: 3/14/2020 9:14:21 PM EDT

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And how many of those under 60 having the issues do not have other major underlying health issues?? They always seem to leave that part out...

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Correct. If they are an obese, overweight, fat smoker at 50 years of age, are they more likely to have serious complications?

Posted: 3/14/2020 9:26:30 PM EDT

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No it's not because of that. The CFR is currently 35x higher.

4x the flu is wishful thinking.

The fact that you're a healthcare worker and not taking this seriously is appalling. Though fortunately, I'm guessing you're pretty low on the totem pole. AEMT?

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HCW here too. Take a Xanax and call me in the morning.

Posted: 3/14/2020 9:28:55 PM EDT

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I believe ssisimo (sp?) the Italian doctor in the other thread that Germany is cooking the books when it comes to Covid19 deaths.

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No. Germany is doing it correctly.

We have a population that is dying that happens to catch a virus, then we have a healthy population that catch the virus. Mortality for the latter is much more important and significant the the former.

Posted: 3/14/2020 9:30:29 PM EDT

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That thread...

2016 rankings
Cigarette consumption per year per person
Ranking
63 France 1089.9

69 United States 1016.6

It was in 2016, now 10 pack of malboro is 2$ more expensive than it was then and we must be ranked under 80.

But don't worry we are 3rd world and you are the best, it's gonna be like the flu for you.
Dumbasses. A lot of you.

As for Germany they decided that they were only counting peoples wich died by C19 without any other symptoms. Anyone who died while sick from anything else is not on the stats.
So needless to say that their numbers are nothing more than horseshit.

Posted: 3/14/2020 9:32:00 PM EDT

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A whole 300 people in the ICU from a highly communicable disease in the entire country!?

We have over 100 ICU beds in my hospital alone.

The only epidemic I am seeing is one of panic and stupidity.

Posted: 3/14/2020 9:32:05 PM EDT

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I don't know, but hopefully it's genetic factors, as I'm of German descent.

Posted: 3/14/2020 9:33:31 PM EDT

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And how many of those under 60 having the issues do not have other major underlying health issues?? They always seem to leave that part out...

How many under 60 in the US have underlying health issues? How many with diabetes and high blood pressure?

Judging from the amount of 40 year olds and younger that have a total disregard for exercising, a penchant for eating unhealthy, I'd say a lot.

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