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Posted: 12/7/2023 4:06:32 PM EDT
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We bought a model y about 6 months ago my wife does uber with it full time,30k miles haven't done a single thing other than put washer fluid in it if you own your home so you can charge at home it is hard to beat
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Posted: 12/7/2023 4:07:47 PM EDT
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Quoted: I bought one two weeks ago. I like it more now than when I bought it. I'm pissed though, because they just dropped prices AGAIN! You can pick up a new model 3 for a little over $36k, and depending on your state you're getting around $10k back in tax incentives. That's a luxury level car for upper $20s. Crazy. And ignore the haters, the car is awesome. More like driving a computer that kicks ass on performance. And I'm regularly in a Lexus 450 and the interior, ride, build quality is similar. Really good value for the dollar. I hate sedans.  |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 4:13:57 PM EDT
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It's always a good time to buy a tesla - FJB is handing out free money to people who buy one.
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Posted: 12/7/2023 4:15:39 PM EDT
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Quote History Lord Musk is providing them a path to prosperity. Thank you Lord Musk. |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 4:15:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quick linear acceleration is still boring. No it isn’t. A flat torque curve is always more desirable than a peaky power band for just about any kind of street driven vehicle. |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 4:17:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/7/2023 4:18:08 PM EDT
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Quoted: I bought one two weeks ago. I like it more now than when I bought it. I'm pissed though, because they just dropped prices AGAIN! You can pick up a new model 3 for a little over $36k, and depending on your state you're getting around $10k back in tax incentives. That's a luxury level car for upper $20s. Crazy. And ignore the haters, the car is awesome. More like driving a computer that kicks ass on performance. And I'm regularly in a Lexus 450 and the interior, ride, build quality is similar. Really good value for the dollar. I am waiting on the body update that’s already available in Europe and Asia. The rebate reduction doesn’t really affect me since I will be getting Performance and it retains the full rebate of $7,500. |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 4:20:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Still own my F150, I'm covered. F150 is a car |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 4:21:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't willy nilly too hard.... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/397309/_9383d153-fca9-4b22-8ad1-63c077a2a32d-2974368.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: "Luxury" It's certainly closer to the Lexus than the Sienna that it took the place of.  EV's have lots of positives. They kill influencers at higher rate than ICE vehicles, they.... uh. Um. Shit that's all I got. Okay they got one positive. Luxury was not on that list. An EV will keep you warm for the rest of your life... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/397309/TWXTe8o_0gC-S_vjhF516w_r-2778213-2778305.gif  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGym1wbSIL0Don't willy nilly too hard.... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/397309/_9383d153-fca9-4b22-8ad1-63c077a2a32d-2974368.jpg Willy fucking nilly! |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 4:24:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I never hear about Tesla's having to go back to the dealer for issues. Is it just not that common? Or do we just not hear about it? If they are reliable....great. If not, the fact that you have to do to a dealer for repairs would suck. Just a thought..... A relative of mine has/had a Model Y. They loved the car but she once mentioned it was in the shop a LOT, especially for the price of the car. I don't know the details and this is probably an exception to the rule, but I remember thinking I'd be plenty pissed if it were my car. You can get a lemon from any maker, though. I don't know why they didn't turn it in as one. Maybe they eventually did. |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 4:27:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I can not tell if that’s sarcasm, but that’s not how it works. At all. Let’s start by saying all taxation is theft. That aside. The tax credit allows that taxpayer to pay less taxes. Other taxpayers do not pay more, and no other money is “diverted” to the guy who bought the EV. I mean, you guys take off mortgage interest on your taxes right? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/376732/IMG_2785_jpeg-3052394.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: A 2024 Toyota Camry LE is only $20,000 if the federal government steals money from other taxpayers to give you a $7,500 subsidy. It has better fit, finish, and reliability although it's not a "luxury" car like a Model 3. If 32 MPG isn't good enough, you can get the hybrid (52 MPG) for $2,400 more (maybe the feds can steal even more money to pay for the upgrade). Quoted: yep that is exactly how it works I can not tell if that’s sarcasm, but that’s not how it works. At all. Let’s start by saying all taxation is theft. That aside. The tax credit allows that taxpayer to pay less taxes. Other taxpayers do not pay more, and no other money is “diverted” to the guy who bought the EV. I mean, you guys take off mortgage interest on your taxes right? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/376732/IMG_2785_jpeg-3052394.JPG it was definitely sarcasm 
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Posted: 12/7/2023 4:27:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Consider the source! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I can not tell if that’s sarcasm, but that’s not how it works. At all. Let’s start by saying all taxation is theft. That aside. The tax credit allows that taxpayer to pay less taxes. Other taxpayers do not pay more, and no other money is “diverted” to the guy who bought the EV. I mean, you guys take off mortgage interest on your taxes right? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/376732/IMG_2785_jpeg-3052394.JPG Consider the source!
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Posted: 12/7/2023 4:28:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quick linear acceleration is still boring. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I wouldn’t call it luxury but the fit and finish of my 23 M3P is better than I expected. I wouldn’t buy anything but the performance version though. It’d be boring without being scary fast Quick linear acceleration is still boring. I've never heard anyone say that until EVs became a thing because in the muscle car era that's all you got. |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 4:35:11 PM EDT
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I would get one but I don't have charging at home
Also there's a newer model 3 coming out which is supposed to be better Lastly I heard car insurance for Teslas is expensive |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 4:35:30 PM EDT
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It's so awesome to go through a bunch of menus just to pop the glove box.
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Posted: 12/7/2023 4:45:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: At least those kids have jobs, eventually they can buy boots to pull upon them bootstraps Lord Musk is providing them a path to prosperity. Thank you Lord Musk. Quote HistoryQuoted: At least those kids have jobs, eventually they can buy boots to pull upon them bootstraps Lord Musk is providing them a path to prosperity. Thank you Lord Musk. It's amazing that class warfare is still alive and well in GD.....I bought a Tesla because I wanted to give those kids in the mines the opportunity to better themselves. Someday they'll buy those boots, pull those straps up, walk up and firmly shake the mine owner's hand while asking for a promotion. Sure he'll probably kick them in the balls and take their boots away but you really can't put a price on a life lesson like that. Down the road, at the end of their life, they'll remember the lesson they learned that day. You and I may forget the lessons from last month....but not that kid.....no sir. |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 4:54:19 PM EDT
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lol. A model 3 is NOT luxury, OP.
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Posted: 12/7/2023 5:17:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wait until 2024 The Fed rebate will be available to the dealer at time of sale. Yeah but the rebate drops in half for the model 3, if you're going to get the tax credit, might as well do it now and you'll see it in a couple months when you file your taxes for 2023 |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 5:20:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's always a good time to buy a tesla - FJB is handing out free money to people who buy one. You mean handing out stolen money to people who buy one. Stolen from you and me. Unless the tax breaks apply to all cars and all buyers it is discrimination and theft. |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 5:40:20 PM EDT
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 Attached FileDamn that is tempting. 95% of our driving is errands around town and we have the VW Atlas for road trips. |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 5:59:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quick linear acceleration is still boring. https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-model-3-performance-track-mode-release-version-beats-ferrari-closed-circuit-test/ Who told you it can only go fast in a straight line? Maybe you should take it around the corners? If you did, and go up against real sports cars around the corners, you might just lose. |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 5:59:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You mean handing out stolen money to people who buy one. Stolen from you and me. Unless the tax breaks apply to all cars and all buyers it is discrimination and theft. LOL |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 6:00:16 PM EDT
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Now, before they invent battery technology that makes them practical and before the infrastructure to charge them is built out? That "now"?
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Posted: 12/7/2023 6:32:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Still own my F150, I'm covered. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: But real men don't drive cars. Men drive trucks. Period  Still own my F150, I'm covered. That is like 'turning the other cheek' on weekends. It is still baseball. |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 6:35:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-model-3-performance-track-mode-release-version-beats-ferrari-closed-circuit-test/ Who told you it can only go fast in a straight line? Maybe you should take it around the corners? If you did, and go up against real sports cars around the corners, you might just lose. The M3P does handle quite well for what it is. I'd like it even more if they could toss the rear seats and doors into the trash and chop the wheelbase down to 100" or so. |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 6:38:49 PM EDT
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*Laughs in Silverado*
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Posted: 12/7/2023 6:41:54 PM EDT
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Maybe when my current car is paid off (2023 CR-V Hybrid Sport Touring) I'd see about maybe buying an inexpensive EV as a second car. Wife (currently fiancée that doesn't drive) will end up learning to drive and will need something for short local trips, or I will use it as a commuter.
ETA: Is Tesla still showing the price AFTER tax rebates? They were doing that recently to show a really low price. |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 6:48:32 PM EDT
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ME AND MY WIFE ONLY DRIVE TOP QUALITY VEHICLES AND OWN TEIR ONE GEAR AND PRODUCTS. WHY BECAUSE WE CAN AFFORD TO
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Posted: 12/7/2023 6:50:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/7/2023 6:53:31 PM EDT
[#30]
If I needed a new car, it would be tempting. However, you're getting the old Model 3 not the "Highland" refresh that fixes some of the 3's dogshit build quality problems, excessive road noise, etc.
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Posted: 12/7/2023 6:56:49 PM EDT
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Comparing a Tesla interior to Lexus and claiming its equivalent is laughable.
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Posted: 12/7/2023 6:57:37 PM EDT
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I drive my car so little I've been flirting with selling it and buying a motorcycle. Can't justify 30k on a car.
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Posted: 12/7/2023 7:04:39 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: ME AND MY |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 7:04:59 PM EDT
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It's not a real car company unless they can make large SUVs and heavy duty trucks.
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Posted: 12/7/2023 7:09:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: ME AND MY 
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Posted: 12/7/2023 7:18:40 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/7/2023 7:20:18 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/7/2023 7:38:47 PM EDT
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Just looked and for a base model 3 with state and fed rebates I could get one for around $23k.
Damn tempting. |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 7:41:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just looked and for a base model S with state and fed rebates I could get one for around $23k. Damn tempting. How are you getting 50K in rebates? |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 7:45:31 PM EDT
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I’ve had one nearly 2 months now.
Why? Well it’s basically a free brand new car due to tax incentives. So no brainier. ( uk here ) Is it green ? who cares , don’t believe in that green bullshit anyway so don’t care either way. Is it cheap to run? Hell yes it’s costing me a few pence per mile Should you get one? Do you do under 200 miles a day? Do you have access to another petrol vehicle > then he’ll yes. Are you old and only do a few miles> hell yes plug it in at home and it’s always full/ |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 7:51:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Go to tesla website and search inventory in your area. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/185900/Screenshot_20231206_134539_Chrome_jpg-3052280.JPG Cheapest within 200 miles of me is a model y for 42,2 |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 7:52:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "luxury" It's got windows! 
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Posted: 12/7/2023 7:56:55 PM EDT
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Gd hates Tesla as much as it loves weed. If every Tesla came with a sack of weed Gd would be all over it.
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Posted: 12/7/2023 7:59:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Gd hates Tesla as much as it loves weed. If every Tesla came with a sack of weed Gd would be all over it. They don’t come with a sack of weed? Fuck. Deals off, mister spacex dude |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 8:01:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I'm getting a Tesla, I'll want the Autopilot/FSD package... and I'm not paying what they want to add it on to a new one. Only used ones that come with the package already for me. +1 It's a $6,000 premium on top of the $6000 driver assist package. Still I think it's worth it for me and my wife especially on longer trips. Now if I could only get Siri to deliver my Grey Poupon to my hand instead of the front porch. Oh Jeeves, more caviar.
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Posted: 12/7/2023 8:01:53 PM EDT
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I wonder if the Toyota 4Runner has auto-driving or driver assist technology?
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Posted: 12/7/2023 8:14:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: +1 It's a $6,000 premium on top of the $6000 driver assist package. Still I think it's worth it for me and my wife especially on longer trips. Now if I could only get Siri to deliver my Grey Poupon to my hand instead of the front porch. Oh Jeeves, more caviar. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If I'm getting a Tesla, I'll want the Autopilot/FSD package... and I'm not paying what they want to add it on to a new one. Only used ones that come with the package already for me. +1 It's a $6,000 premium on top of the $6000 driver assist package. Still I think it's worth it for me and my wife especially on longer trips. Now if I could only get Siri to deliver my Grey Poupon to my hand instead of the front porch. Oh Jeeves, more caviar. I honestly think the base Autopilot (included on all vehicles) is good enough….on my 90 mile round trip daily commute I have to make 8 turns and I’m “driving” for maybe 15 minutes. Obviously it’s subjective based on the driving you do. I’ll probably do a month of FSD on our vacation trip next spring to try it. |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 8:15:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How are you getting 50K in rebates? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Just looked and for a base model Damn tempting. How are you getting 50K in rebates? |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 8:20:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Comparing a Tesla interior to Lexus and claiming its equivalent is laughable. Comparing Lexus performance and technology to Tesla and claiming its equivalent is laughable. |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 8:22:08 PM EDT
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No.
I just bought a wrangler 392 that gets horrible mileage bc ‘merica. |
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