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Quoted: Rosberg is the Jose Mesa of F1. He cant close the deal. View Quote There's nothing wrong with that, if you handle it like a man. Barrichello, Massa, Webber, and Fisichella for example, had great careers as wingmen. Rosberg acts like a petulant little bitch though, and wrecks his teammate. Like him or not, Hamilton is a lion*. Rosberg is a lamb. He's quick when conditions are perfect, but like you said, can't close the deal. Especially if challenged at all by other drivers, conditions, or a car that isn't quite 100%. He could win a championship with Mercedes, but only if Hamilton has a horrendous string of bad luck. eta: *To be clear, I'm not suggesting Hamilton is not an asshole. The evidence suggests that he is indeed. |
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He's a second tier driver. On any premium team, he will always be the second driver. There's nothing wrong with that, if you handle it like a man. Barrichello, Massa, Webber, and Fisichella for example, had great careers as wingmen. Rosberg acts like a petulant little bitch though, and wrecks his teammate. Like him or not, Hamilton is a lion*. Rosberg is a lamb. He's quick when conditions are perfect, but like you said, can't close the deal. Especially if challenged at all by other drivers, conditions, or a car that isn't quite 100%. He could win a championship with Mercedes, but only if Hamilton has a horrendous string of bad luck. eta: *To be clear, I'm not suggesting Hamilton is not an asshole. The evidence suggests that he is indeed. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Rosberg is the Jose Mesa of F1. He cant close the deal. There's nothing wrong with that, if you handle it like a man. Barrichello, Massa, Webber, and Fisichella for example, had great careers as wingmen. Rosberg acts like a petulant little bitch though, and wrecks his teammate. Like him or not, Hamilton is a lion*. Rosberg is a lamb. He's quick when conditions are perfect, but like you said, can't close the deal. Especially if challenged at all by other drivers, conditions, or a car that isn't quite 100%. He could win a championship with Mercedes, but only if Hamilton has a horrendous string of bad luck. eta: *To be clear, I'm not suggesting Hamilton is not an asshole. The evidence suggests that he is indeed. I think it's just a pressure thing for him... as in, he can't handle it. When he's way ahead or he has no chance of winning, he's as good a driver as anyone on the grid. The best thing for him would be to go to a mid-tier team. He'd be great somewhere like Force India or Williams. He could really wring all he could out of the car, bring a team like that as much success as they're gonna get, eke out the occasional podium, and have a decent career. The only way he's going to win a championship is if Mercedes (or whoever dominates after the next rule change) puts a total loser in the other car... and nobody is going to do that, there's way too much talent out there. |
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He's a second tier driver. On any premium team, he will always be the second driver. There's nothing wrong with that, if you handle it like a man. Barrichello, Massa, Webber, and Fisichella for example, had great careers as wingmen. Rosberg acts like a petulant little bitch though, and wrecks his teammate. Like him or not, Hamilton is a lion*. Rosberg is a lamb. He's quick when conditions are perfect, but like you said, can't close the deal. Especially if challenged at all by other drivers, conditions, or a car that isn't quite 100%. He could win a championship with Mercedes, but only if Hamilton has a horrendous string of bad luck. eta: *To be clear, I'm not suggesting Hamilton is not an asshole. The evidence suggests that he is indeed. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Rosberg is the Jose Mesa of F1. He cant close the deal. There's nothing wrong with that, if you handle it like a man. Barrichello, Massa, Webber, and Fisichella for example, had great careers as wingmen. Rosberg acts like a petulant little bitch though, and wrecks his teammate. Like him or not, Hamilton is a lion*. Rosberg is a lamb. He's quick when conditions are perfect, but like you said, can't close the deal. Especially if challenged at all by other drivers, conditions, or a car that isn't quite 100%. He could win a championship with Mercedes, but only if Hamilton has a horrendous string of bad luck. eta: *To be clear, I'm not suggesting Hamilton is not an asshole. The evidence suggests that he is indeed. Totally agree with all of this. I would love to see Rosberg spoil Ham's 4th championship plans... but I'm doubting that he will. |
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Great great great race. Very entertaining to the last lap.... and especially the last lap. -Nico's fault -LOL at Max's lederhosen driving suit. - Good job Kimi, but Ferrari not helping their cause with risky strategy regarding Seb's car. -Fuckin A to Pascal Wehrlein! P10 for Manor! View Quote Ferrari have completely lost my confidence this year. When Seb and Kimi do well, I think that it's in spite of the strategists. It's getting real old. Just another year of "well... there's always next year". Like being a Cleveland Browns fan (which thankfully, I'm not). |
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Ferrari have completely lost my confidence this year. When Seb and Kimi do well, I think that it's in spite of the strategists. It's getting real old. Just another year of "well... there's always next year". Like being a Cleveland Browns fan (which thankfully, I'm not). View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Great great great race. Very entertaining to the last lap.... and especially the last lap. -Nico's fault -LOL at Max's lederhosen driving suit. - Good job Kimi, but Ferrari not helping their cause with risky strategy regarding Seb's car. -Fuckin A to Pascal Wehrlein! P10 for Manor! Ferrari have completely lost my confidence this year. When Seb and Kimi do well, I think that it's in spite of the strategists. It's getting real old. Just another year of "well... there's always next year". Like being a Cleveland Browns fan (which thankfully, I'm not). Oh man, first the Indians, now a crack at the Browns? |
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Damn... we F1 fans sound racist as shit. I'm surprised this thread hasn't been reported. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Oh man, first the Indians, now a crack at the Browns? Damn... we F1 fans sound racist as shit. I'm surprised this thread hasn't been reported. Closes a thread and gets Cleveland the Republican National Convention |
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2017 Tire Tests next month, modified 2015 cars will be used. Lauda reverses Pirelli sticks to their company line Of course they tweeted that right away when it happened, Vettel probably hadn't even gotten back to the garage yet, and then took it down. http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i174/philinseattle/F1/F1%202017/pirelli_zpsbvdqmhuc.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
2017 Tire Tests next month, modified 2015 cars will be used. Lauda reverses A statement released by Mercedes said "Following his appearance on a television discussion show on Servus TV recorded prior to last weekend’s Austrian GP, Niki Lauda would like to set the record straight and state the following.” "Lewis Hamilton did not in any way damage a hotel room or his private driver room at the circuit during the race weekend in Baku and Lewis Hamilton did not lie about his relationship with team mate Nico Rosberg.” "Niki regrets any misunderstanding caused by comments that have been blown wildly out of proportion compared with the casual context in which they were made.” Pirelli sticks to their company line "Analysis of the tyre issue that affected Sebastian Vettel at the recent Austrian Grand Prix has been concluded and the results shared with Ferrari,” said Pirelli. "The few remaining parts of the tyre in question, together with an in-depth comparison to other tyres used in the race, reveal no signs of fatigue or structural failure in the right-rear tyre itself.” "Consequently, the issue appears to be caused by an item of debris, which led to the breakage of the tyre.” Of course they tweeted that right away when it happened, Vettel probably hadn't even gotten back to the garage yet, and then took it down. http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i174/philinseattle/F1/F1%202017/pirelli_zpsbvdqmhuc.jpg More shit-luck and/or strategy for Seb this year. He's been handling it with great maturity and class, but it's gotta be getting beyond old for him. |
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Oh man, first the Indians, now a crack at the Browns? View Quote Oh man... I didn't even realize that you're from Ohio when I made that comment! LOL!!! How's that for coincidence? I was seriously just quickly thinking of a sports team that gets no respect and is never a real contender. Ha ha ha! |
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Oh man... I didn't even realize that you're from Ohio when I made that comment! LOL!!! How's that for coincidence? I was seriously just quickly thinking of a sports team that gets no respect and is never a real contender. Ha ha ha! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Oh man, first the Indians, now a crack at the Browns? Oh man... I didn't even realize that you're from Ohio when I made that comment! LOL!!! How's that for coincidence? I was seriously just quickly thinking of a sports team that gets no respect and is never a real contender. Ha ha ha! Proud Cleveland native, but as such I'm used to negative comments about Cleveland sports, but the deal is that only fellow Clevelanders (or fans) can talk negatively about Cleveland or our sports. Yeah, the Browns suck but I'll have you know the Tribe is 6.5 ahead in the Central right now! |
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Proud Cleveland native, but as such I'm used to negative comments about Cleveland sports, but the deal is that only fellow Clevelanders (or fans) can talk negatively about Cleveland or our sports. Yeah, the Browns suck but I'll have you know the Tribe is 6.5 ahead in the Central right now! View Quote Cleveland sports teams may suck but at least they're not in Columbus. Look for Kimi and Bottas to do well this weekend. Fins always enjoy Silverstone for some reason. |
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Proud Cleveland native, but as such I'm used to negative comments about Cleveland sports, but the deal is that only fellow Clevelanders (or fans) can talk negatively about Cleveland or our sports. Yeah, the Browns suck but I'll have you know the Tribe is 6.5 ahead in the Central right now! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Oh man, first the Indians, now a crack at the Browns? Oh man... I didn't even realize that you're from Ohio when I made that comment! LOL!!! How's that for coincidence? I was seriously just quickly thinking of a sports team that gets no respect and is never a real contender. Ha ha ha! Proud Cleveland native, but as such I'm used to negative comments about Cleveland sports, but the deal is that only fellow Clevelanders (or fans) can talk negatively about Cleveland or our sports. Yeah, the Browns suck but I'll have you know the Tribe is 6.5 ahead in the Central right now! And those Cavs! And the Browns are horrible. I still get excited at the beginning of the season.... don't know why... glutton for punishment I suppose. Maybe the Browns should sign LeBron. Anyway, back to F1.... of the nine races this year, Ferrari have failed to finish both cars five times. Ugh. |
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This is what happens when you let Italians run Ferrari. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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More shit-luck and/or strategy for Seb this year. He's been handling it with great maturity and class, but it's gotta be getting beyond old for him. This is what happens when you let Italians run Ferrari. LOL... could be. Cause they sure as hell aren't living up to their proud legacy right now. The fact that they've failed to do so while employing Seb, Kimi, and Fernando before proves that it's all on the team/company. Cause it sure ain't for lack of driver talent! |
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Proud Cleveland native, but as such I'm used to negative comments about Cleveland sports, but the deal is that only fellow Clevelanders (or fans) can talk negatively about Cleveland or our sports. Yeah, the Browns suck but I'll have you know the Tribe is 6.5 ahead in the Central right now! View Quote Must be like the whole family deal, eh? "I can smack my little brother around but if anyone else touches him, they're dead" kind of thing. Makes sense. Having said that... the entire rest of sports fandom has failed to get the memo about not dissing Cleveland. |
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Quoted: This is what happens when you let Italians run Ferrari. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: More shit-luck and/or strategy for Seb this year. He's been handling it with great maturity and class, but it's gotta be getting beyond old for him. This is what happens when you let Italians run Ferrari. Good lord ain't it the truth.. Give it to a Brit and a Frenchman, and you get 7 championships.... but nope, ain't doing jack shit with an Italian in charge. |
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Quoted: Must be like the whole family deal, eh? "I can smack my little brother around but if anyone else touches him, they're dead" kind of thing. Makes sense. Having said that... the entire rest of sports fandom has failed to get the memo about not dissing Cleveland. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Proud Cleveland native, but as such I'm used to negative comments about Cleveland sports, but the deal is that only fellow Clevelanders (or fans) can talk negatively about Cleveland or our sports. Yeah, the Browns suck but I'll have you know the Tribe is 6.5 ahead in the Central right now! Must be like the whole family deal, eh? "I can smack my little brother around but if anyone else touches him, they're dead" kind of thing. Makes sense. Having said that... the entire rest of sports fandom has failed to get the memo about not dissing Cleveland. When I was a kid, growing up the the Chicago area, I was a Bears fan.. still am, but I refuse to watch even a minute of the NFL. I was always happy to see the names of two teams on the schedule. The Lions in the Browns. Why, you ask? I liked seeing those names because I knew that no matter how bad the Bears were that year, they had a better than even chance of winning. |
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More shit-luck and/or strategy for Seb this year. He's been handling it with great maturity and class, but it's gotta be getting beyond old for him. This is what happens when you let Italians run Ferrari. |
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I don't see a soon to be 37 yr old as much of a progression from Ferrari. It seems like they've become ok with being the 3rd best team. |
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I don't see a soon to be 37 yr old as much of a progression from Ferrari. It seems like they've become ok with being the 3rd best team. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
I don't see a soon to be 37 yr old as much of a progression from Ferrari. It seems like they've become ok with being the 3rd best team. why-ferrari-kept-raikkonen-for-next-year Re-signing Kimi Raikkonen for a further season was an entirely predictable move by Ferrari.
After all this is a team that is ultra-conservative when it comes to choosing drivers, and which values experience and stability in its line-up. Only Fernando Alonso and Jenson Button can claim more grand prix starts to their names than Raikkonen, so if you're minded to go for experience over youthful exuberance the options are limited. The contractual situations of other potential candidates, say Red Bull's Daniel Ricciardo or Williams's Valtteri Bottas (linked heavily with Ferrari last season), also mean Ferrari cannot go out into the market and easily replace Raikkonen. But Raikkonen's form has been so patchy since he returned from Lotus for 2014 that a clear case could be made for not renewing their partnership. He was well-beaten by Fernando Alonso in a difficult car that season, but could rightly claim he was returning to a team that had gradually geared itself around the Spaniard's needs in the years he'd been away. And Raikkonen is not the sort to go around Maranello making demands and turning up tables. His record against current team-mate Sebastian Vettel is better, but still inferior, though this year circumstances have dictated they are tied on points after nine races. In pure performance terms the merit of this decision is debatable; in pure results terms - based on this season - the debate swings slightly more in Raikkonen's favour. Whether or not you agree with Alain Prost that Raikkonen is a perfect 'number two' driver to Vettel, there are some clear positives for Ferrari in retaining the 2007 word champion. He is a no-nonsense guy and honest to a fault. As Vettel said earlier this year, there are "no games" with Raikkonen, which allows the two to work together well and does wonders for harmony within the wider Maranello environment. Promoting an unknown younger gun with a point to prove risks destablising that atmosphere. Perhaps Ferrari feels this is more important than hiring a driver who may (or may not) push Vettel harder on a more consistent basis than Raikkonen seems currently able to himself. With the technical regulations due to change substantially for next season, Raikkonen also provides stability during a period of uncertainty for the technical teams. He also possesses extraordinary sensitivity for the tyres, and ultra-precise feedback on car behaviour - an ability to spot problems that other drivers cannot. Engineers who have worked with him closely say he is among the best there has ever been in this regard. With all-new Pirelli tyres bolted to the cars and drastically revised aerodynamics on the way for next season, Raikkonen is a useful guy to have in your corner during these times of severely limited testing. This should aid Ferrari's pace of development, while avoiding the need to 'bed in' a new driver. The changes in regulations could also bring F1 back towards Raikkonen's skill set next year. He will surely be enthused by an aerodynamic platform that may bias the emphasis back towards those with less flamboyant, more minimalist driving styles. Raikkonen likes to make the car do the work, and if the cars are more capable in the corners that should suit him. He has also struggled with the current generation of harder Pirelli tyres - particularly the fronts, which he often struggles to work properly with his super-smooth style. With the construction of the rubber changing completely there is also the potential for a re-set on that score. This announcement will again frustrate the ambitions of hungry young drivers who are waiting for Raikkonen to retire, and those who feel he is no longer the same driver that wowed F1 with McLaren in the middle of the last decade. But whether or not you feel, as Raikkonen does, that he is "driving as well as for ever", Ferrari has clearly decided he is driving well enough. And that's all that matters in the end. |
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When I was a kid, growing up the the Chicago area, I was a Bears fan.. still am, but I refuse to watch even a minute of the NFL. I was always happy to see the names of two teams on the schedule. The Lions in the Browns. Why, you ask? I liked seeing those names because I knew that no matter how bad the Bears were that year, they had a better than even chance of winning. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Proud Cleveland native, but as such I'm used to negative comments about Cleveland sports, but the deal is that only fellow Clevelanders (or fans) can talk negatively about Cleveland or our sports. Yeah, the Browns suck but I'll have you know the Tribe is 6.5 ahead in the Central right now! Must be like the whole family deal, eh? "I can smack my little brother around but if anyone else touches him, they're dead" kind of thing. Makes sense. Having said that... the entire rest of sports fandom has failed to get the memo about not dissing Cleveland. When I was a kid, growing up the the Chicago area, I was a Bears fan.. still am, but I refuse to watch even a minute of the NFL. I was always happy to see the names of two teams on the schedule. The Lions in the Browns. Why, you ask? I liked seeing those names because I knew that no matter how bad the Bears were that year, they had a better than even chance of winning. LOL!!! Ain't that the truth. I bought my 70" LCD a couple of years ago specifically to watch NFL and F1. Sadly, both sports are alienating me just a little more each year. But I'm a life-long Bronco fan... so at least I got a Superbowl win to celebrate this year! (Despite having to watch Peyton's god-awful throwing.) |
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View Quote Thanks for posting that. I like Kimi, but have often wondered why Ferrari keeps him. That article answered a lot of those questions. And I'm glad that Seb and Kimi get along so well. While it's true that a younger driver might push Seb harder, that didn't seem to help when Ricciardo was better in the V6 RBR than Seb. And there's NO driver's radio transmissions that I look forward to hearing like with Kimi's. The guy is comedy gold in that regard and I would love to be tuned into his radio for the whole race. |
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Tune in NBCSN to check out F1 practice from Silverstone and .......................................
And it's raining in Kentucky. And they won't go out. |
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Perez and Hulkenberg confirmed for 2017
You know, with Raikkonen, Perez, and Hulk only confirmed for an additional year, I'm pretty sure 2017 will be the crazy season for driver moves. Toto deals with a driver dispute |
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Mercs will have to wreck each other to not get on the podium.
Red Bulls ahead of the Red Racers, and Vettel has a 5 place penalty... |
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They tried to rob Lewis, failed. View Quote I'm never one to pile on HAM but he exceeded limits at a corner specifically mentioned in the "DO NOT EXCEED" list. Time was properly deleted. See Mansell's tweet about it. He's the steward for the weekend. |
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I'm never one to pile on HAM but he exceeded limits at a corner specifically mentioned in the "DO NOT EXCEED" list. Time was properly deleted. See Mansell's tweet about it. He's the steward for the weekend. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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They tried to rob Lewis, failed. I'm never one to pile on HAM but he exceeded limits at a corner specifically mentioned in the "DO NOT EXCEED" list. Time was properly deleted. See Mansell's tweet about it. He's the steward for the weekend. Doesn't explain the other cars that did the exact same thing. |
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Verstappen is the real deal, bright future ahead of him for sure.
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They tried to rob Lewis, failed. I'm never one to pile on HAM but he exceeded limits at a corner specifically mentioned in the "DO NOT EXCEED" list. Time was properly deleted. See Mansell's tweet about it. He's the steward for the weekend. Doesn't explain the other cars that did the exact same thing. Different parts of the track. The three retards on NBC launched into controversy mode before putting one ounce of thought into what was going on. |
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And currently he's only under contract at Red Bull through 2017. I'm telling you, we'll see a lot of driver moves for the 2018 season. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Verstappen is the real deal, bright future ahead of him for sure. And currently he's only under contract at Red Bull through 2017. I'm telling you, we'll see a lot of driver moves for the 2018 season. Yeah, I was thinking this earlier, going to be a silly "silly season". |
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Quoted: Thanks for posting that. I like Kimi, but have often wondered why Ferrari keeps him. That article answered a lot of those questions. And I'm glad that Seb and Kimi get along so well. While it's true that a younger driver might push Seb harder, that didn't seem to help when Ricciardo was better in the V6 RBR than Seb. And there's NO driver's radio transmissions that I look forward to hearing like with Kimi's. The guy is comedy gold in that regard and I would love to be tuned into his radio for the whole race. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Thanks for posting that. I like Kimi, but have often wondered why Ferrari keeps him. That article answered a lot of those questions. And I'm glad that Seb and Kimi get along so well. While it's true that a younger driver might push Seb harder, that didn't seem to help when Ricciardo was better in the V6 RBR than Seb. And there's NO driver's radio transmissions that I look forward to hearing like with Kimi's. The guy is comedy gold in that regard and I would love to be tuned into his radio for the whole race. Having spent more time around racecar drivers than I would like to admit, the whole 'Younger guy pushing the older guy to do better' thing is a myth. Youth is not a substitute for experience in motorsport like it is in more physical activities. If they both seem to have the same motivation and drive, I'll take the older guy every time. I would think the whole 'youth' thing would be even less of a factor in F1, because those guys are, as a rule, in pretty amazing shape, and they generally retire long before their reflexes would be worse than the young guys. Also, Young drivers shouldn't be trusted with a fucking spork in a padded room, all they do is break shit. I figured there was a 90% chance that Ferrari would keep Kimi, because he is easy to work with, doesn't irritate Seb, and doesn't create drama. They have a car to develop before they go any other direction... They won't magically find 2 seconds of pace by putting another butt in the seat. |
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Quoted: I've certainly become a fan of his. Reminds me of a young Alonso, minus the animal impersonations. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Verstappen is the real deal, bright future ahead of him for sure. I've certainly become a fan of his. Reminds me of a young Alonso, minus the animal impersonations. |
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SO friggin tired of all the FIA faggotry and minutia. Endless artificial bullshit "racing". Howzabout we just let the teams/drivers friggin RACE and see what shakes out??? Farging iceholes!!! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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[snip] and Vettel has a 5 place penalty... SO friggin tired of all the FIA faggotry and minutia. Endless artificial bullshit "racing". Howzabout we just let the teams/drivers friggin RACE and see what shakes out??? Farging iceholes!!! My pessimistic view of the season: I might care if it actually mattered. Unless I missed something in qualifying (and I didn't pay close attention), Vettel was 2.2 seconds off pole. |
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I agree with David Hobbs....starting behind a safety car is weak.
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