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Posted: 6/30/2023 4:37:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: do you have more anecdotal irrelevant evidence ? in the meantime here is a video that shows the imepding.. https://streamable.com/xzwe0o having to steer in the acceleration phase outside of a corner is making me faster (said no racing driver ever) Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I saw a lot of comments on sites and I didn’t see anyone who thought it would be a penalty. A whole bunch of “as a Ferrari fan, I would love to see a Ferrari front row, but that isn’t a penalty”. do you have more anecdotal irrelevant evidence ? in the meantime here is a video that shows the imepding.. https://streamable.com/xzwe0o having to steer in the acceleration phase outside of a corner is making me faster (said no racing driver ever) Christ, you are a miserable person to be around. |
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Posted: 6/30/2023 4:41:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Christ, you are a miserable person to be around. in fact I am not. every arfcommer that met me (over 15 over the years) would tell you so.  . Next one comes visit me in September. anyway..i actually appreciate you and your posts generally speaking  Im just telling you that the hearsay of people that are supposedly ferrari fans means nothing compared to what is on the video. having to steer outside of this corner and not accelerating with your wheel straight as soon as possible WILL make you lose speed and time. it's physics. There is no way around it (no pun intended) even if it didnt change much, that impeding is a mistake from Verstappen, but really more one from his team that didnt warn him someone on a fast lap was coming (does that remind you someone else recently?). Verstappen should have been on the other side of the track. that mistake resulted in impeding, even if marginally. It's the mistake that dictates the penalty, not the consequences of it. that they can decide that it was not a mistake is simply ridiculous. I am not even interested in Verstappen getting the penalty, in fact. he deserves the pole and it wont change anything anyway. |
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Posted: 6/30/2023 5:05:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Loving Lando being up there. Hopefully they can keep some race pace. He always does well in Quali then the car can't keep up during the actual race. Lando seems to perform well in Austria. Hopefully that translates to good points this weekend. |
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Posted: 6/30/2023 5:14:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lando seems to perform well in Austria. Hopefully that translates to good points this weekend. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Loving Lando being up there. Hopefully they can keep some race pace. He always does well in Quali then the car can't keep up during the actual race. Lando seems to perform well in Austria. Hopefully that translates to good points this weekend. He had some updates this week, right? His teammate gets them at Silverstone. |
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Posted: 6/30/2023 5:16:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Christ, you are a miserable person to be around. The complaining every weekend is so tiresome. |
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Posted: 6/30/2023 5:16:33 PM EDT
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Womp womp, Perez and Russell. If Perez keeps screwing up, I can see them putting in Danny Ric later in the year. For Russell, so much for challenging Hammy. He’s becoming the Perez of Mercedes.
Getting tired of these guys whining about track limits in Austria. You’re either all 4 wheels over or you aren’t. The white line denotes the track, and it’s your job to stay on the track. Need to start acting like the highly paid, best drivers in the world you claim to be. I’m wary when Ferrari qualifies well since there is a high probability they will screw it up. If not strategy errors, there is the issue of eating tires. Canada wasn’t bad, but I’m going to need a couple of races to see if they’ve really gotten a handle on tire deg. |
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Posted: 6/30/2023 5:55:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Womp womp, Perez and Russell. If Perez keeps screwing up, I can see them putting in Danny Ric later in the year. For Russell, so much for challenging Hammy. He’s becoming the Perez of Mercedes. Getting tired of these guys whining about track limits in Austria. You’re either all 4 wheels over or you aren’t. The white line denotes the track, and it’s your job to stay on the track. Need to start acting like the highly paid, best drivers in the world you claim to be. I’m wary when Ferrari qualifies well since there is a high probability they will screw it up. If not strategy errors, there is the issue of eating tires. Canada wasn’t bad, but I’m going to need a couple of races to see if they’ve really gotten a handle on tire deg. This should be a very good chance for Ferrari to win. |
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Posted: 6/30/2023 6:09:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The complaining every weekend is so tiresome. Now you know about how I feel about the selective enforcement more seriously, the arguments of the stewards that i posted makes no sense. |
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Posted: 6/30/2023 6:16:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This should be a very good chance for Ferrari to win. I’m not quite that optimistic. I don’t think they have the speed to beat Max. I think everything need to go right for Ferrari and something needs to go wrong for Max for Ferrari to win. For good or bad, the Sprint race tomorrow is going to preview the Sunday race, so we’ll see what each team’s race pace really is. |
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Posted: 6/30/2023 6:30:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Now you know about how I feel about the selective enforcement more seriously, the arguments of the stewards that i posted makes no sense. But it isn’t going to change, so get over it. |
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Posted: 6/30/2023 7:22:37 PM EDT
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I really dont see impeding like that last few races we have had...
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Posted: 6/30/2023 8:14:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I really dont see impeding like that last few races we have had... I agree with you. its not as bad. But it still forced Magnussen to alter his trajectory, dont you agree ? Don't you agree that RB should have told Verstappen and that he should have been on the other side of the track to NOT impede ? anyway, i dont need to convince anyone. facts are facts |
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Posted: 6/30/2023 8:31:19 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The complaining every weekend is so tiresome. Man, you aint kidding. |
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Posted: 6/30/2023 8:33:02 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Man, you aint kidding. I’m sure you will survive ! I know you can make it !
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Posted: 6/30/2023 8:35:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree with you. its not as bad. But it still forced Magnussen to alter his trajectory, dont you agree ? Don't you agree that RB should have told Verstappen and that he should have been on the other side of the track to NOT impede ? anyway, i dont need to convince anyone. facts are facts Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I really dont see impeding like that last few races we have had... I agree with you. its not as bad. But it still forced Magnussen to alter his trajectory, dont you agree ? Don't you agree that RB should have told Verstappen and that he should have been on the other side of the track to NOT impede ? anyway, i dont need to convince anyone. facts are facts Yea, and the Fact is that the stewards did not see any thing that warranted a penalty. |
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Posted: 6/30/2023 8:38:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yea, and the Fact is that the stewards did not see any thing that warranted a penalty. So your conclusion is that the stewards are blind… or that they selectively enforce rules ?  I voted option two , but sometimes I happen to be wrong
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Posted: 6/30/2023 9:27:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So your conclusion is that the stewards are blind… or that they selectively enforce rules ? I voted option two , but sometimes I happen to be wrong What if max was on the right side of the track..... His lap time still would of been deleted though. |
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Posted: 6/30/2023 9:28:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree with you. its not as bad. But it still forced Magnussen to alter his trajectory, dont you agree ? Don't you agree that RB should have told Verstappen and that he should have been on the other side of the track to NOT impede ? anyway, i dont need to convince anyone. facts are facts I do agree RB should of told him he was, and he could of been more left or all the way right. At least he wasn't in the middle of the track like Charles was at Monaco. |
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Posted: 6/30/2023 10:21:42 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: do you have more anecdotal irrelevant evidence ? in the meantime here is a video that shows the imepding.. https://streamable.com/xzwe0o having to steer in the acceleration phase outside of a corner is making me faster (said no racing driver ever) Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I saw a lot of comments on sites and I didn’t see anyone who thought it would be a penalty. A whole bunch of “as a Ferrari fan, I would love to see a Ferrari front row, but that isn’t a penalty”. do you have more anecdotal irrelevant evidence ? in the meantime here is a video that shows the imepding.. https://streamable.com/xzwe0o having to steer in the acceleration phase outside of a corner is making me faster (said no racing driver ever) Oh, the irony of this post. |
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Posted: 7/1/2023 3:30:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What if max was on the right side of the track..... His lap time still would of been deleted though. Then max and redbull would not have been impeding at all and would have made no mistake. That Magnussen lap time had been deleted is completely irrelevant to the question, even the stewards admitted so |
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Posted: 7/1/2023 3:32:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh, the irony of this post. It really isn’t. The video is truly the best evidence for my argument on the question and it was even fike who provided it. That’s why I didn’t agree with the second part of his argument. Maybe you think that steering in the acceleration phase out of a corner is beneficial in any way. My experience says otherwise. I agree though that I should not have answered to him the way have (uncalled for) and this is also why I didn’t blame him for calling me miserable to be around. I deserved it. I am normally truly not. As for anecdotal evidence, here is a video of Nicola Castglione, who raced with people like Alonso in minor categories, and who also happen to be a Ferrari fan, who is making the exact same points today I was making yesterday.  #F1 #GP #AUSTRIA A #VERSTAPPEN NESSUNA PENALITA' PER IMPENDING SU #MAGNUSSEN, GIUSTO COSI'? |
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Posted: 7/1/2023 3:38:18 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I do agree RB should of told him he was, and he could of been more left or all the way right. At least he wasn't in the middle of the track like Charles was at Monaco. charles was in the middle of the track because he wasn’t warned that somebody was coming behind him. Verstappen was very slow on the racing line because nobody warned him somebody was coming behind him. To me it is clear that the teams more than the drivers committed a mistake. Teams should be twice more aware of that because of the nature of the track in Monaco, I agree. On the other hand it’s twice easier to make sure it doesn’t happen in the RB ring. So all in all, in my opinion the same type of mistake wasn’t penalized the same But I see that we agree on principle. |
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Posted: 7/1/2023 6:00:06 AM EDT
[#23]
Sprint Shootout time ESPN2
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Posted: 7/1/2023 6:00:57 AM EDT
[#24]
Wet yet drying track.
Should be slicks for now |
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Posted: 7/1/2023 6:08:08 AM EDT
[#25]
And Ferrari screwing sainz for a change
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Posted: 7/1/2023 6:14:55 AM EDT
[#26]
Louie out in first round
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Posted: 7/1/2023 6:15:03 AM EDT
[#27]
Leclerc on q2 for 1/1000th
Let’s see if they penalize him for « impeding » anyone wanna take bets on selective enforcement ? Sainz p1 |
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Posted: 7/1/2023 6:16:45 AM EDT
[#28]
Are the cars supposed to be sporting the same settings as they will have tomorrow for the race or today is a completely different set up ?
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Posted: 7/1/2023 6:24:48 AM EDT
[#29]
Leclerc is in old tires ?
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Posted: 7/1/2023 6:26:40 AM EDT
[#30]
Russel 15th out in q2
Steering column fubar |
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Posted: 7/1/2023 6:31:35 AM EDT
[#31]
Geez. Leclerc scared me with those old tires
Hopefully he did this to preserve one set of new tires for q3 |
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Posted: 7/1/2023 6:46:47 AM EDT
[#32]
Wow the ferrari really sufferered cold
They really have an incredibly tight window for this car to work. It sucks |
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Posted: 7/1/2023 7:49:14 AM EDT
[#33]
Go Hulk.
But Leclerc only slightly better than Alonso. |
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Posted: 7/1/2023 7:55:54 AM EDT
[#34]
Wait what.. now Leclerc is winning?..
Oh wait it's F2  
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Posted: 7/1/2023 8:39:54 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Leclerc on q2 for 1/1000th Let’s see if they penalize him for « impeding » anyone wanna take bets on selective enforcement ? Sainz p1 Like clockwork, here comes the penalty for leclerc !  Impeding on piastri in q1 because his team did not warn him and he was on the racing line while going to the pitlane… kinda reminds me of something somehow… So what is the difference exactly ? One impeded more than the other ? Oh I see. All animals impede, but some animals impede more than others Ahaha its good stuff  |
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Posted: 7/1/2023 10:30:35 AM EDT
[#36]
Anyone here?
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Posted: 7/1/2023 10:33:15 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone here? |
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Posted: 7/1/2023 10:34:32 AM EDT
[#38]
Well this is a bit nuts
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Posted: 7/1/2023 10:36:29 AM EDT
[#39]
Both Haas cars are making passes
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Posted: 7/1/2023 10:38:48 AM EDT
[#40]
So first Perez pushes VES on the grass, and then VES divebombs and leaves no room on track to Perez ?`
now thats all kosher, and FUN
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Posted: 7/1/2023 10:39:31 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So first Perez pushes VES on the grass, and then VES divebombs and leaves no room on track to Perez ?` now thats all kosher, and FUN |
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Posted: 7/1/2023 10:40:59 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So first Perez pushes VES on the grass, and then VES divebombs and leaves no room on track to Perez ?` now thats all kosher, and FUN He didn't divebomb. He lost traction. Perez is the asshole in that interchange. |
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Posted: 7/1/2023 10:42:37 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He didn't divebomb. He lost traction. Perez is the asshole in that interchange. in the breaking ? he missed the apex by half a mile |
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Posted: 7/1/2023 10:43:49 AM EDT
[#44]
Would be ironic if Hulk finishes in the top 3 because it technically wouldn’t count as a podium lol
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Posted: 7/1/2023 10:44:05 AM EDT
[#45]
now we need the DRS.. come on. its almost dry
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Posted: 7/1/2023 10:45:47 AM EDT
[#46]
Well Perez is going to kill my dream.
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Posted: 7/1/2023 10:47:29 AM EDT
[#47]
Who is going to pit for tires?
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Posted: 7/1/2023 10:48:14 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Who is going to pit for tires? |
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Posted: 7/1/2023 10:54:28 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I would if I was 10th or further back. and its russel |
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Posted: 7/1/2023 10:54:45 AM EDT
[#50]
DRS is a go now. Hulk is fucked
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