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Posted: 7/23/2023 9:12:45 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Charles gonna get a penalty |
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Posted: 7/23/2023 9:15:19 AM EST
[#2]
So glad I just bought the next year.
Lap fucking 34 of 70 and he has a 10 second lead over 2nd. And Ferrari finding new ways to fuck up by the lap. It’s hard to get pumped about the midfield when Red Bull’s caterers have built a rocket ship that cannot lose. I didn’t watch then, was it like this when Ham was winning every year? |
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Posted: 7/23/2023 9:16:33 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So glad I just bought the next year. Lap fucking 34 of 70 and he has a 10 second lead over 2nd. And Ferrari finding new ways to fuck up by the lap. It’s hard to get pumped about the midfield when Red Bull’s caterers have built a rocket ship that cannot lose. I didn’t watch then, was it like this when Ham was winning every year? LOL no. Because you didn't have a complete asshole pushing his bullshit agenda on everyone. Max is amazing in that aspect. |
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Posted: 7/23/2023 9:16:51 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Umm, no. Not even close. The Ferrari pace is slower than either Merc. oh look Hamilton came out of the pit stop with a 6sec lead on Leclerc... leclerc lost 7.5sec on his 1st pit stop... not only close, but he would have come ahead. would he have kept it ? doubtful. but still had to pass not to mention leclerc lost a bunch of time behind sainz after the 1st stop |
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Posted: 7/23/2023 9:21:40 AM EST
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So glad I just bought the next year. Lap fucking 34 of 70 and he has a 10 second lead over 2nd. And Ferrari finding new ways to fuck up by the lap. It's hard to get pumped about the midfield when Red Bull's caterers have built a rocket ship that cannot lose. I didn't watch then, was it like this when Ham was winning every year? |
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Posted: 7/23/2023 9:26:08 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So glad I just bought the next year. Lap fucking 34 of 70 and he has a 10 second lead over 2nd. And Ferrari finding new ways to fuck up by the lap. It’s hard to get pumped about the midfield when Red Bull’s caterers have built a rocket ship that cannot lose. I didn’t watch then, was it like this when Ham was winning every year? 10 seconds isn't much compared to what Merc and Ferrari used to win by. 10 seconds really isn't much period. |
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Posted: 7/23/2023 9:27:33 AM EST
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Ultimately, the Ferrari guys are just fighting for which of the two comes in ahead of the other. They aren’t really fighting Red Bull, McLaren, or Merc. Their car is shit, and even without a bad pit stop, they probably would finish in about the same place.
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Posted: 7/23/2023 9:31:14 AM EST
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes Max is being very dominate like Lewis was. A more competitive series is needed. The only way you get a competitive series is by throwing away what F1 is supposed to be about and becoming Indy Car. |
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Posted: 7/23/2023 9:31:30 AM EST
[#9]
I predict Norris will get a 5 sec penalty
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Posted: 7/23/2023 9:33:04 AM EST
[#10]
Lol..it's so boring RB had to call Max on the radio to check in..
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Posted: 7/23/2023 9:34:10 AM EST
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The only way you get a competitive series is by throwing away what F1 is supposed to be about and becoming Indy Car. |
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Posted: 7/23/2023 9:35:03 AM EST
[#12]
Looks like the RB upgrades are working. Not sure what happened in quali but damn.
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Posted: 7/23/2023 9:35:54 AM EST
[#13]
Well LeCluck is fucked now.
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Posted: 7/23/2023 9:36:12 AM EST
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Posted: 7/23/2023 9:36:15 AM EST
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol..it's so boring RB had to call Max on the radio to check in.. Must be new to the sport |
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Posted: 7/23/2023 9:36:15 AM EST
[#16]
geez.
this is seriously boring though |
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Posted: 7/23/2023 9:37:41 AM EST
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well LeCluck is fucked now. oh no, he will end up 7th instead of 6th because his team screwed him once again and costed him about 12sec.. what a catastrophy.  LoL |
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Posted: 7/23/2023 9:37:49 AM EST
[#18]
Last lap is gonna get spicy between Perez and Ham.
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Posted: 7/23/2023 9:38:16 AM EST
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol..it's so boring RB had to call Max on the radio to check in.. RB: “Max, just checking in, how’s it going?” Max: “Ok I guess, but I can’t believe these interest rates!” 
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Posted: 7/23/2023 9:38:28 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Last lap is gonna get spicy between Perez and Ham. I don't think there's enough laps. |
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Posted: 7/23/2023 9:39:23 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: RB: "Max, just checking in, how's it going?" Max: "Ok I guess, but I can't believe these interest rates!" https://assets.newatlas.com/dims4/default/ac2c5a8/2147483647/strip/true/crop/800x533+0+7/resize/1200x800!/quality/90/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnewatlas-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2Farchive%2Fdriverless-car-1.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Lol..it's so boring RB had to call Max on the radio to check in.. RB: "Max, just checking in, how's it going?" Max: "Ok I guess, but I can't believe these interest rates!" https://assets.newatlas.com/dims4/default/ac2c5a8/2147483647/strip/true/crop/800x533+0+7/resize/1200x800!/quality/90/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnewatlas-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2Farchive%2Fdriverless-car-1.jpg LOL When your race is so boring, the team has to check if you're still awake. |
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Posted: 7/23/2023 9:40:15 AM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't think there's enough laps. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Last lap is gonna get spicy between Perez and Ham. I don't think there's enough laps. Perez could beat him by .200-.300 Eta looks like ham backed off and Perez put the hammer down |
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Posted: 7/23/2023 9:40:19 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: oh no, he will end up 7th instead of 6th because his team screwed him once again and costed him about 12sec.. what a catastrophy. LoL Leclerc’s 5 second penalty is all him, not the team. HE lost 6th place. The team didn’t lose him 6th place. |
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Posted: 7/23/2023 9:40:45 AM EST
[#24]
Hey @Shung, how about RIC finishing ahead of TSU?
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Posted: 7/23/2023 9:41:58 AM EST
[#25]
what a drop in ferrari's tires in the last stint though. they have had no tires for about 10laps
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Posted: 7/23/2023 9:44:28 AM EST
[#26]
What a massive difference in the McLarens after the upgrades. Again, it looks like Aston's "upgrades" actually hurt the car.
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Posted: 7/23/2023 9:45:00 AM EST
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: what a drop in ferrari's tires in the last stint though. they have had no tires for about 10laps So next race the tire deg is gonna be better lol |
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Posted: 7/23/2023 9:45:35 AM EST
[#28]
What the heck happened to Piastri?
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Posted: 7/23/2023 9:46:16 AM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Leclerc’s 5 second penalty is all him, not the team. HE lost 6th place. The team didn’t lose him 6th place. Bullshit.. the pit costed him 7.5sec to BEGIN with. the nervosity and stress that his team put on him by botching his 1st stop is plenty to explain why he would do such tiny mistake trying to make up the time he lost in the 2nd pit... but lets say the penalty is all his fault if you want to... even with the 5sec penalty, the 7.5seconds time they made him lose on the 1st pit would have been plenty enough to preserve P6. his team costed him P6 |
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Posted: 7/23/2023 9:46:50 AM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Hey @Shung, how about RIC finishing ahead of TSU? 1-0 fair enough. there are many races to come. thats why we dont judge in 1 race |
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Posted: 7/23/2023 9:47:14 AM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So next race the tire deg is gonna be better lol No, next race it will be a different excuse. |
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Posted: 7/23/2023 9:48:13 AM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What a massive difference in the McLarens after the upgrades. Again, it looks like Aston's "upgrades" actually hurt the car. Stoked for Zack Brown. |
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Posted: 7/23/2023 9:48:42 AM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No, next race it will be a different excuse. That’s no excuse at all. Their tire management sucks and there is no excuse for that. |
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Posted: 7/23/2023 9:49:17 AM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What a massive difference in the McLarens after the upgrades. Again, it looks like Aston's "upgrades" actually hurt the car. Do you think this could explain something ?  
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Posted: 7/23/2023 9:50:22 AM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Stoked for Zack Brown. |
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Posted: 7/23/2023 9:52:24 AM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Same I really like him. It is incredible how dramatic the in season improvement can be. I had no idea it could be that drastic. They have 2 main engineers from Red Bull this year. It’s my opinion that they are emulating something really capital from them Look at how similar now thei cars look |
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Posted: 7/23/2023 9:53:31 AM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They have 2 main engineers from Red Bull this year. It's my opinion that they are emulating something really capital from them Look at how similar now they car look Yeah I think you're right. |
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Posted: 7/23/2023 9:53:52 AM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What the heck happened to Piastri? tire deg |
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Posted: 7/23/2023 9:53:57 AM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What a massive difference in the McLarens after the upgrades. Again, it looks like Aston's "upgrades" actually hurt the car. Aston Martin was really competitive at the start of the season. Now they've dropped into mediocrity it seems like. |
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Posted: 7/23/2023 9:59:34 AM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah I think you're right. its something teams like Mclaren or Aston Martin can do because being number 2 would be a great achievement, even if it is by copying to the letter. but you will always only be number 2 by doing so. its something that teams like Ferrari, Mercedes, or even Renault won't do, for obvious reasons. or at least won't do in a obvious manner. the fact that MIKA HAKKINEN said 2 months ago that Mclaren would be fighting redbull by the end of the year TELLS ME, that he knows they found/are using something they know works for sure. well, at least now we know for sure that the SF-23 sucks no matter the track typology. the only way it seems to work is within a tiny temperature and wind window... the car SUCKS |
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Posted: 7/23/2023 10:04:32 AM EST
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Posted: 7/23/2023 10:06:16 AM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Bullshit.. the pit costed him 7.5sec to BEGIN with. the nervosity and stress that his team put on him by botching his 1st stop is plenty to explain why he would do such tiny mistake trying to make up the time he lost in the 2nd pit... but lets say the penalty is all his fault if you want to... even with the 5sec penalty, the 7.5seconds time they made him lose on the 1st pit would have been plenty enough to preserve P6. his team costed him P6 First, he didn’t lose 7.5 seconds. You need to subtract about 2 seconds because even with a perfect stop, it still would have taken some time. Second, speeding in the pit lane IS his fault. Saying that his driving mistakes are the team’s fault just hides that he doesn’t have the mental toughness to deal with where Ferrari are. It’s a bit of a fantasy to assume that a 5.5 second delta between good/actual first pit would have resulted in 5.5 seconds being added to his time, and do the math from there. At best, if it was a normal first pit stop, he might have just finished ahead of Piastri, assuming he could have gotten by. At best, it would have taken time, which would have helped Russell close in, and then likely would have lost places to both Piastri and Russell, instead of just Russell, and still ended up 7th. |
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Posted: 7/23/2023 10:07:07 AM EST
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Posted: 7/23/2023 10:08:34 AM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: First, he didn’t lose 7.5 seconds. You need to subtract about 2 seconds because even with a perfect stop, it still would have taken some time. what the hell are you even talking about? his first pit stop was measured at 9.4sec.... substract the 2-2.2 seconds of a normal pit stop and we are at.... Oh look... 7.5 sec loss... just what I said. if you are going to discuss things with me, at least get your facts straight first please... 
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Posted: 7/23/2023 10:09:20 AM EST
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Posted: 7/23/2023 10:10:23 AM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
 That’s awesome. |
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Posted: 7/23/2023 10:12:28 AM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: what the hell are you even talking about? his first pit stop was measured at 9.5sec.... substract the 2-2.2 seconds of a normal pit stop and we are at.... Oh look... 7.5 sec loss... just what I said. if you are going to discuss things with me, at least get your facts straight first please... Sorry, I misremembered the time. I thought 7.5 the actual time. BTW, fuck you Shung. |
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Posted: 7/23/2023 10:13:18 AM EST
[#48]
Interesting that Horner made it a point to say Red Bull was several million under the cap in 2022 during his post race interview. If he is being honest they weren't one of the three that violated it last year.
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Posted: 7/23/2023 10:15:21 AM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sorry, I misremembered the time. I thought 7.5 the actual time. BTW, fuck you Shung. Quote HistoryQuoted: Sorry, I misremembered the time. I thought 7.5 the actual time. BTW, fuck you Shung. you're being honest for once. twice in a post. congrats ! BTW, I love you too ! It’s a bit of a fantasy to assume that a 5.5 second delta between good/actual first pit would have resulted in 5.5 seconds being added to his time, and do the math from there. I agree with you. it's no guarantee at all and can't be taken at face value because many other factors could intervene at this point (traffic being one). But its still a good indication of how things went. |
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Posted: 7/23/2023 10:16:03 AM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah I think you're right. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They have 2 main engineers from Red Bull this year. It's my opinion that they are emulating something really capital from them Look at how similar now they car look Yeah I think you're right. The new tire construction has helped the car considerably. |
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