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Posted: 7/31/2023 6:28:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: However, Marko suggested to Media that Seb was their preferred driver, creating a psychological problem with Webber that eventually led to him basically folding. Webber most likely folded in 2010 because he had a broken shoulder that he hid from the team during the last few races of the season. |
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Posted: 7/31/2023 6:53:38 PM EST
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought Lewis and Checo were good friends? Lewis dissed him massively.
Lewis isn't friends with anyone that he won't stab in the back. And I HIGHLY doubt he'd be giving Max a run for his money in Checo's car....Lewis had the faster car in 2021....and still lost. |
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Posted: 7/31/2023 7:24:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lewis isn't friends with anyone that he won't stab in the back. And I HIGHLY doubt he'd be giving Max a run for his money in Checo's car....Lewis had the faster car in 2021....and still lost. That's certainly an opinion. |
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Posted: 7/31/2023 7:43:34 PM EST
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought Lewis and Checo were good friends? Lewis dissed him massively.
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Posted: 7/31/2023 7:46:24 PM EST
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe. Maybe not. But it'd sure be pretty fun to watch. It’d be the dumpster fire version of Senna/Prost. |
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Posted: 7/31/2023 7:54:05 PM EST
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lewis isn't friends with anyone that he won't stab in the back. And I HIGHLY doubt he'd be giving Max a run for his money in Checo's car....Lewis had the faster car in 2021....and still lost. C'mon you know he really won his 8th in 2021.... 
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Posted: 7/31/2023 7:54:43 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’d be the dumpster fire version of Senna/Prost. And why you have an A and a B driver. |
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Posted: 7/31/2023 7:58:27 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lewis isn't friends with anyone that he won't stab in the back. And I HIGHLY doubt he'd be giving Max a run for his money in Checo's car....Lewis had the faster car in 2021....and still lost. Lewis has lost “it”. His move is to dive inside and play chicken or wreck/spin others He did it to Albon and Max (x2) and now Checo just when pushing for top positions. It works to shake the young guys but quite a few don’t flinch. |
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Posted: 7/31/2023 7:59:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lewis isn't friends with anyone that he won't stab in the back. And I HIGHLY doubt he'd be giving Max a run for his money in Checo's car....Lewis had the faster car in 2021....and still lost. Well his contract was hanging out for a loonngg time, you think he would’ve taken the “faster” car of it was offered but I guess they were smarter than that. |
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Posted: 7/31/2023 8:03:47 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe. Maybe not. But it'd sure be pretty fun to watch. They wouldn't let it happen. When Checo started to get close to Max RBR started their usual bullshit; radio silence, getting him to manage his pace etc. The replacement for Max will be from their junior program, whoever that may be. At which point Verstappen will be disposed of like he never mattered, as they have done with all their other drivers. The only exception was Ricciardo, who appeared to have upset RBR management enough that they asked him to come back so they could finish him off properly. |
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Posted: 7/31/2023 8:18:32 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They wouldn't let it happen. When Checo started to get close to Max RBR started their usual bullshit; radio silence, getting him to manage his pace etc. The replacement for Max will be from their junior program, whoever that may be. At which point Verstappen will be disposed of like he never mattered, as they have done with all their other drivers. The only exception was Ricciardo, who appeared to have upset RBR management enough that they asked him to come back so they could finish him off properly. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Maybe. Maybe not. But it'd sure be pretty fun to watch. They wouldn't let it happen. When Checo started to get close to Max RBR started their usual bullshit; radio silence, getting him to manage his pace etc. The replacement for Max will be from their junior program, whoever that may be. At which point Verstappen will be disposed of like he never mattered, as they have done with all their other drivers. The only exception was Ricciardo, who appeared to have upset RBR management enough that they asked him to come back so they could finish him off properly. Red Bull is the devil. |
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Posted: 7/31/2023 8:25:46 PM EST
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought Lewis and Checo were good friends? Lewis dissed him massively.
Lulu took a shot at Checo in 2021 also I believe |
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Posted: 7/31/2023 8:27:34 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lulu took a shot at Checo in 2021 also I believe Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I thought Lewis and Checo were good friends? Lewis dissed him massively.
Lulu took a shot at Checo in 2021 also I believe Remember, Checo protected Verstappen in 2021 with some awesome driving--holding Ham up so he couldn't reach Max |
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Posted: 7/31/2023 8:30:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Enjoyed the weekend, variable weather really spices it up. Whiny Ham of course is to be expected. Loved the Max banter on the radio. I wish they played more if it. May need to pull the trigger on F1TV streaming. Nor did very well, considering. I still miss Seb.  Fuck Seb. (with all due respect) |
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Posted: 7/31/2023 8:43:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought Lewis and Checo were good friends? Lewis dissed him massively.
He’s just trying anything to stay relevant now that he doesn’t have the dominant car |
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Posted: 7/31/2023 8:50:44 PM EST
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He’s just trying anything to stay relevant now that he doesn’t have the dominant car And it's no different from Max's comments in 20/21 about Lewis' car. Put them both in a Haas and neither would be winning races. |
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Posted: 7/31/2023 10:24:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And it's no different from Max's comments in 20/21 about Lewis' car. Put them both in a Haas and neither would be winning races. At the height of the Schumacher mania people seemed to think he would win in anything. Then he came back in 2010 and was depressingly normal. Everyone expected him to outperform Rosberg but he just looked like he was struggling everywhere. Every star fades in F1. It happened to Senna in '94 (he had not lost speed but was absolutely rocked by Schumacher's sheer pace), then Schumacher should not have come back (although some credit him with convincing Mercedes to stop playing at it), Vettel looked like he'd eaten kryptonite in 2014, it will happen to Verstappen too. |
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Posted: 7/31/2023 10:36:19 PM EST
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Webber most likely folded in 2010 because he had a broken shoulder that he hid from the team during the last few races of the season. I remember he had cryogenic therapy on that injury, it was cutting-edge stuff at the time. He had a very odd 2011, completely unable to get to grips with the blown-diffuser car. A little better the following year, but he was basically done as a championship contender. I liked Webber, he's a great sportsman and a good bloke. |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 12:13:12 PM EST
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If you were thinking of watching a race season on F1TV which season would it be?
“ANY V10 SEASON!” “The one with ….” “2021!” ?? |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 12:24:43 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you were thinking of watching a race season on F1TV which season would it be? “ANY V10 SEASON!” “The one with ….” “2021!” ?? In the Modern era (to me, I'm older) I really like 2000. I was not a huge fan of Schumacher at the time, but it was truly a great contest between him and Mika, to the very end. I would also add 1990, 1991, and 1986, just for the madness of the turbo era and the rise of so many greats; Senna, Prost, Mansell. 1983 for the first year of the flat-bottomed regs (which we had all the way until 1995, where the 50mm stepped floor was introduced), for its recovery from the nightmare of 1982, the last year of the DFV (McLaren and Williams still ran it) and Watson and Lauda still kicking it hard in their sunset years. 2005 for the oddity of no tyre changes, but also to see just how bad the dirty air problem was. Some good races nevertheless. Also last year of the V10 if that matters to you. |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 12:45:21 PM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I rewatched the sprint from the onboard cameras and noticed a few things. With the only practice washed out, the teams were clueless on setup. Verstappen reported back right after the SC, “yeah, this car is quick”. Everybody else was porpoising to one degree or another (as they had to guess on ride height) and that was with fuel for only 15 laps. The full fuel loads tomorrow will be interesting. Eau Rouge is already smeared yellow with plank skid marks. I wouldn’t be shocked if a few teams had plank legality issues after the race. On the issue of plank legality. RB were lifting into Eau Rouge.  Red Bull Racing caught SANDBAGGING in Belgian GP? |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 12:57:54 PM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In the Modern era (to me, I'm older) I really like 2000. I was not a huge fan of Schumacher at the time, but it was truly a great contest between him and Mika, to the very end. I would also add 1990, 1991, and 1986, just for the madness of the turbo era and the rise of so many greats; Senna, Prost, Mansell. 1983 for the first year of the flat-bottomed regs (which we had all the way until 1995, where the 50mm stepped floor was introduced), for its recovery from the nightmare of 1982, the last year of the DFV (McLaren and Williams still ran it) and Watson and Lauda still kicking it hard in their sunset years. 2005 for the oddity of no tyre changes, but also to see just how bad the dirty air problem was. Some good races nevertheless. Also last year of the V10 if that matters to you. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If you were thinking of watching a race season on F1TV which season would it be? “ANY V10 SEASON!” “The one with ….” “2021!” ?? In the Modern era (to me, I'm older) I really like 2000. I was not a huge fan of Schumacher at the time, but it was truly a great contest between him and Mika, to the very end. I would also add 1990, 1991, and 1986, just for the madness of the turbo era and the rise of so many greats; Senna, Prost, Mansell. 1983 for the first year of the flat-bottomed regs (which we had all the way until 1995, where the 50mm stepped floor was introduced), for its recovery from the nightmare of 1982, the last year of the DFV (McLaren and Williams still ran it) and Watson and Lauda still kicking it hard in their sunset years. 2005 for the oddity of no tyre changes, but also to see just how bad the dirty air problem was. Some good races nevertheless. Also last year of the V10 if that matters to you.  I started the 2005 season now. Next season will then be 2000 
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Posted: 8/1/2023 1:21:02 PM EST
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you were thinking of watching a race season on F1TV which season would it be? "ANY V10 SEASON!" "The one with ." "2021!" ?? |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 1:23:35 PM EST
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In the Modern era (to me, I'm older) I really like 2000. I was not a huge fan of Schumacher at the time, but it was truly a great contest between him and Mika, to the very end. I would also add 1990, 1991, and 1986, just for the madness of the turbo era and the rise of so many greats; Senna, Prost, Mansell. 1983 for the first year of the flat-bottomed regs (which we had all the way until 1995, where the 50mm stepped floor was introduced), for its recovery from the nightmare of 1982, the last year of the DFV (McLaren and Williams still ran it) and Watson and Lauda still kicking it hard in their sunset years. 2005 for the oddity of no tyre changes, but also to see just how bad the dirty air problem was. Some good races nevertheless. Also last year of the V10 if that matters to you. @danpass, There's a bunch of VERY old (1950's-1960's) British, German and Monaco GP highlights on Youtube. I love the tiny little cars of that era, but damn people died a LOT. EDIT: Spa, 1955  1955 Belgian Grand Prix |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 1:24:34 PM EST
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Posted: 8/1/2023 1:50:39 PM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryI dead. Because the below is exactly what I thought of.  Fernando Alonso, Quarterback, Stanford Guanyu Zhou, Running Back, Penn State Esteban Ocon, Wide Receiver, Texas A&M Alex Albon, Tight End, USC Daniel Ricciardo, Offensive Tackle, Michigan State Sergio Perez, Left Guard, Nebraska Max Verstappen, Center, Tennessee Kevin Magnussen, Right Guard, Minnesota George Russell, Offensive Tackle, UCLA Lando Norris, Defensive Tackle, Clemson Nico Hulkenberg, Outside Linebacker, Auburn Charles Leclerc, Outside Linebacker, USC Carlos Sainz, Inside Linebacker, Oklahoma Lewis Hamilton, Defensive Back, Alabama Lance Stroll, Long Snapper, South Dakota State Logan Sargeant, Kicker, The U Yuki Tsunoda, Punter, Washington |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 2:27:53 PM EST
[#27]
Quote HistoryHoly shit
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Posted: 8/1/2023 2:36:53 PM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: On the issue of plank legality. RB were lifting into Eau Rouge.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-mb1yNRrx8That’s actually pretty fascinating. I really like Blake (Brrrake). |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 3:47:52 PM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I started the 2005 season now. Next season will then be 2000 Enjoy! Both have some really good, clean racing. The Ferrari fall from form vs. the previous year is a textbook example of how quickly things can change. Yes, the FIA went out to slow them down, yes it was Michelin's revenge for 2003, and it only lasted that year...but what's interesting is how after a few rounds you don't think about tyre stops anymore. 2000 had some great fights. Magny Cours, Spa, and an absolute belter of a final race. |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 3:50:34 PM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Enjoy! Both have some really good, clean racing. The Ferrari fall from form vs. the previous year is a textbook example of how quickly things can change. Yes, the FIA went out to slow them down, yes it was Michelin's revenge for 2003, and it only lasted that year...but what's interesting is how after a few rounds you don't think about tyre stops anymore. 2000 had some great fights. Magny Cours, Spa, and an absolute belter of a final race. |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 3:55:14 PM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: ...but what's interesting is how after a few rounds you don't think about tyre stops anymore. Well, until the Indy GP at least.
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Posted: 8/1/2023 5:19:58 PM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And the 2005 US Grand Prix is SUPER SPECIAL.  |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 5:22:56 PM EST
[#33]
Wish I could put a poll in a post, but we're trying to decide
on which race to go to in 2024. Spa or Monza? Both are tracks that I really want to experience. I'm leaning a little more towards Monza since I can sorta kinda speak the language, and it has less of a chance of getting rained out.  But Spa is, well, Spa. 'Nough said. |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 5:52:00 PM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wish I could put a poll in a post, but we're trying to decide on which race to go to in 2024. Spa or Monza? Both are tracks that I really want to experience. I'm leaning a little more towards Monza since I can sorta kinda speak the language, and it has less of a chance of getting rained out. But Spa is, well, Spa. 'Nough said. I'd choose spa....just not sure if I want to do F1 or the GTWC 24hr. But the rain does look like it would suck. |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 7:27:25 PM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wish I could put a poll in a post, but we're trying to decide on which race to go to in 2024. Spa or Monza? Both are tracks that I really want to experience. I'm leaning a little more towards Monza since I can sorta kinda speak the language, and it has less of a chance of getting rained out. But Spa is, well, Spa. 'Nough said. I don't think you'd have any issues with the language in Belgium. They all love the US. You can also make it a battlefield tour if you're into that. The whole place is soaked in history (and blood). |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 7:37:24 PM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wish I could put a poll in a post, but we're trying to decide on which race to go to in 2024. Spa or Monza? Both are tracks that I really want to experience. I'm leaning a little more towards Monza since I can sorta kinda speak the language, and it has less of a chance of getting rained out. But Spa is, well, Spa. 'Nough said. Spa is on the 2024 calendar, but there is currently no contract. Two months ago they were “95% done” with a multi year deal….but things have gone silent. I’d guess that it will happen, but they have yanked races off the calendar before. |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 7:53:55 PM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And the 2005 US Grand Prix is SUPER SPECIAL. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Enjoy! Both have some really good, clean racing. The Ferrari fall from form vs. the previous year is a textbook example of how quickly things can change. Yes, the FIA went out to slow them down, yes it was Michelin's revenge for 2003, and it only lasted that year...but what's interesting is how after a few rounds you don't think about tyre stops anymore. 2000 had some great fights. Magny Cours, Spa, and an absolute belter of a final race. Yea, I was there. 
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Posted: 8/1/2023 8:07:38 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yea, I was there. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Enjoy! Both have some really good, clean racing. The Ferrari fall from form vs. the previous year is a textbook example of how quickly things can change. Yes, the FIA went out to slow them down, yes it was Michelin's revenge for 2003, and it only lasted that year...but what's interesting is how after a few rounds you don't think about tyre stops anymore. 2000 had some great fights. Magny Cours, Spa, and an absolute belter of a final race. Yea, I was there. I reeeeeeaaaaallllllly wish Rubens and MSC would have taken each other out at pit exit during the pit cycle. |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 8:58:39 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd choose spa....just not sure if I want to do F1 or the GTWC 24hr. But the rain does look like it would suck. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Wish I could put a poll in a post, but we're trying to decide on which race to go to in 2024. Spa or Monza? Both are tracks that I really want to experience. I'm leaning a little more towards Monza since I can sorta kinda speak the language, and it has less of a chance of getting rained out. But Spa is, well, Spa. 'Nough said. I'd choose spa....just not sure if I want to do F1 or the GTWC 24hr. But the rain does look like it would suck. Spa all week, and twice on Sunday. Even in the rain. 
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Posted: 8/1/2023 9:06:59 PM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I reeeeeeaaaaallllllly wish Rubens and MSC would have taken each other out at pit exit during the pit cycle. |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 9:28:35 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It’d be the dumpster fire version of Senna/Prost. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Maybe. Maybe not. But it'd sure be pretty fun to watch. It’d be the dumpster fire version of Senna/Prost. You know you are both saying the same thing. |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 9:28:47 PM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And it's no different from Max's comments in 20/21 about Lewis' car. Put them both in a Haas and neither would be winning races. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: He’s just trying anything to stay relevant now that he doesn’t have the dominant car And it's no different from Max's comments in 20/21 about Lewis' car. Put them both in a Haas and neither would be winning races. New idea, for the sprint races they get randomly assigned to cars. How would Tsunoda do in a RB? 
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Posted: 8/1/2023 10:54:27 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They're comparing notes on how to get away with the overspending they've both done. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Toto and Horner were super chummy this weekend. A bit odd. They're comparing notes on how to get away with the overspending they've both done. If you aren't cheating, you aren't trying. F1 teams live in the grey area. Sometimes the grey is really dark grey. |
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Posted: 8/2/2023 7:20:22 AM EST
[#44]
Uhoh it looks like Lulu's contract extension is starting to have issues. And I quote here "Is an ongoing process and no one can understand the full complexity of the situation".
LOL. |
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Posted: 8/2/2023 8:51:56 AM EST
[#45]
Sigh, summer break
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Posted: 8/2/2023 9:04:44 AM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't think you'd have any issues with the language in Belgium. They all love the US. You can also make it a battlefield tour if you're into that. The whole place is soaked in history (and blood). Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Wish I could put a poll in a post, but we're trying to decide on which race to go to in 2024. Spa or Monza? Both are tracks that I really want to experience. I'm leaning a little more towards Monza since I can sorta kinda speak the language, and it has less of a chance of getting rained out. But Spa is, well, Spa. 'Nough said. I don't think you'd have any issues with the language in Belgium. They all love the US. You can also make it a battlefield tour if you're into that. The whole place is soaked in history (and blood). My late Uncle Fred took a 1 oz. piece of Krup's finest steel somewhere in that area of Belgium, just below the ribs on his right side, and became a guest of der fuhrer. |
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Posted: 8/2/2023 9:16:14 AM EST
[#47]
 Belgian GP 2023 | Highlights | Formula 1 Animated Comedy |
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Posted: 8/2/2023 9:20:43 AM EST
[#48]
Word is that Hugo Boss is set to replace Alpha Tauri as the title sponsor for Red Bull’s junior team.
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Posted: 8/2/2023 9:38:51 AM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yea, I was there. Haha, me too, my section was not pleased... 
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Posted: 8/2/2023 9:42:42 AM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Word is that Hugo Boss is set to replace Alpha Tauri as the title sponsor for Red Bull’s junior team. Isn't AlphaTauri a clothing brand owned by Red Bull? |
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