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Posted: 3/18/2022 9:54:21 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The Browns' Twitter account still hasn't announced their trade for a franchise QB involving $230M guaranteed money and 3 first round picks. That seems like it might be big news for a team so I wonder why they haven't announced it yet. Hmm.  |
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Posted: 3/18/2022 9:57:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: [Muzzy] I'm posting a notice of personal friend and hall of fame broadcaster John Clayton passing today at 3pm. Condolences to Pat and family. Holy shit. He was on the radio just a couple days ago, they cut him loose because he was under the weather. Now he's dead. His wife is bed bound. Has a nurse at their home every day. She has also been in the hospital recently with Covid and other illnesses. He had one of the best commercials ever. |
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Posted: 3/18/2022 9:58:30 PM EDT
[#3]
Browns
 This is a wild time to be alive 
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Posted: 3/18/2022 9:59:43 PM EDT
[#4]
Yippee, the return of the National Felons League.
Time again to sort the lint collection |
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Posted: 3/18/2022 10:00:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That is fucking brutal. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: [Spotrac] Davante Adams' #Raiders Contract (h/t @ProFootballTalk) - 5 yrs, $140M - $22.75M guaranteed at sign - $42.9M more in 2023 - 3 yrs, $67.5M practical Cap Hits 2022: $8.2M 2023: $30.4M 2024: $21.3M 2025: $40M 2026: $40M That is fucking brutal. He's one of my favorite players but for that $ I hope he has fun in Vegas. |
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Posted: 3/18/2022 10:00:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yippee, the return of the National Felons League. Time again to sort the lint collection Thank you for your virtue signal. |
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Posted: 3/18/2022 10:02:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He had one of the best commercials ever. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: [Muzzy] I'm posting a notice of personal friend and hall of fame broadcaster John Clayton passing today at 3pm. Condolences to Pat and family. Holy shit. He was on the radio just a couple days ago, they cut him loose because he was under the weather. Now he's dead. His wife is bed bound. Has a nurse at their home every day. She has also been in the hospital recently with Covid and other illnesses. He had one of the best commercials ever.  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/18/2022 10:05:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: [Muzzy] I'm posting a notice of personal friend and hall of fame broadcaster John Clayton passing today at 3pm. Condolences to Pat and family. Holy shit. He was on the radio just a couple days ago, they cut him loose because he was under the weather. Now he's dead. His wife is bed bound. Has a nurse at their home every day. She has also been in the hospital recently with Covid and other illnesses. WTF? John Clayton was alright in my book. RIP |
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Posted: 3/18/2022 10:15:06 PM EDT
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As far as the NFL is concerned: if you want to sexually assaulted dozens of women forcing them to blow you and shove things up your ass: ehh. However, if you fuck with the money…  |
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Posted: 3/18/2022 10:20:51 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The Browns' Twitter account still hasn't announced their trade for a franchise QB involving $230M guaranteed money and 3 first round picks. That seems like it might be big news for a team so I wonder why they haven't announced it yet. Hmm. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOK0pbnWYAcijvq?format=jpg&name=medium Still crickets from the Browns’ official Twitter account. Their most recent tweet was made 9 hours ago about Cooper. |
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Posted: 3/18/2022 10:29:14 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The Mayfield style stadium home commercials are gonna take a weird turn... They could do moving out and moving in commercials for his new team 
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Posted: 3/18/2022 10:33:23 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Still crickets from the Browns’ official Twitter account. Their most recent tweet was made 9 hours ago about Cooper. No shortage of replies in the Cooper tweet  
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Posted: 3/18/2022 10:37:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FJxi3c_WUAAvgEQ?format=jpg&name=small MVS in the center. Equanimeous St. Brown was on the left side of the field, running a similar route as Adams, but in single coverage, also had a step and would have been a better target. Edit: Just went and rewatched the play. Rodgers was looking Adams from the snap. When he loads up the bomb, he is not under pressure at all, line is holding, MVS has just made his cut, St Brown is about to clear the safety on his side, Adams still has the corner and safety in front of him.  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: There might be some positives to the Adams trade for GB. A-a-ron does tend to throw it to Adams when he gets rattled, despite being double or triple covered. If you surround A-a-ron with all mediocre receivers, maybe he'll throw it to the open guy? When they lost to the 49ers despite SF never scoring an offensive TD wasn't Rodger's last pass trying to force the ball to Adams who was doubled when another WR was open for a first down in the middle of the field? MVS in the center. Equanimeous St. Brown was on the left side of the field, running a similar route as Adams, but in single coverage, also had a step and would have been a better target. Edit: Just went and rewatched the play. Rodgers was looking Adams from the snap. When he loads up the bomb, he is not under pressure at all, line is holding, MVS has just made his cut, St Brown is about to clear the safety on his side, Adams still has the corner and safety in front of him. There is a defender deep but he may be going the wrong way. Tough to see from that still. |
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Posted: 3/18/2022 10:48:56 PM EDT
[#14]
Thank goodness the saints didn't get this pervert, and shame on them for pursuing him.
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Posted: 3/18/2022 11:09:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No shortage of replies in the Cooper tweet https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOKDU8bXsAMXgUX?format=jpg&name=small https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOKUDEuXMAQiGIL?format=jpg&name=small Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Still crickets from the Browns’ official Twitter account. Their most recent tweet was made 9 hours ago about Cooper. No shortage of replies in the Cooper tweet https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOKDU8bXsAMXgUX?format=jpg&name=small https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOKUDEuXMAQiGIL?format=jpg&name=small  COME ON OUT YOU RAPIST |
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Posted: 3/18/2022 11:11:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Still crickets from the Browns’ official Twitter account. Their most recent tweet was made 9 hours ago about Cooper. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: The Browns' Twitter account still hasn't announced their trade for a franchise QB involving $230M guaranteed money and 3 first round picks. That seems like it might be big news for a team so I wonder why they haven't announced it yet. Hmm. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOK0pbnWYAcijvq?format=jpg&name=medium Still crickets from the Browns’ official Twitter account. Their most recent tweet was made 9 hours ago about Cooper. Generally, the team account is the last to announce moves, and they only do it when all the paperwork is done and the move has been fully processed/completed. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 12:42:56 AM EDT
[#17]
Damn, John Clayton died.
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Posted: 3/19/2022 12:59:50 AM EDT
[#18]
[Mortensen] John Clayton passed away today at a Seattle area hospital. His wife Pat and sister Amy were at his side and communicated earlier he passed peacefully after a brief illness. We loved John. We are mourning his loss. Pat has asked the @Seahawks to release further information.
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Posted: 3/19/2022 1:20:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They could do moving out and moving in commercials for his new team Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The Mayfield style stadium home commercials are gonna take a weird turn... They could do moving out and moving in commercials for his new team |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 2:51:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: [Mortensen] John Clayton passed away today at a Seattle area hospital. His wife Pat and sister Amy were at his side and communicated earlier he passed peacefully after a brief illness. We loved John. We are mourning his loss. Pat has asked the @Seahawks to release further information. I hated ESPN let him go and kept other shit bags. RIP to an awesome one. 
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Posted: 3/19/2022 2:55:36 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: [Spotrac] Davante Adams' #Raiders Contract (h/t @ProFootballTalk) - 5 yrs, $140M - $22.75M guaranteed at sign - $42.9M more in 2023 - 3 yrs, $67.5M practical Cap Hits 2022: $8.2M 2023: $30.4M 2024: $21.3M 2025: $40M 2026: $40M so it's really a three year $67 million deal, the raiders did good on this deal. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 3:01:50 AM EDT
[#22]
I was at work with shitty cell service all day, but the more I see the Watson news the more amazing it gets.
his agent deserves some kind of award b/c holy crap did he fleece the browns. and mahomes only has $141 of his 10 year guaranteed??? oh man... |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 5:19:28 AM EDT
[#23]
Shit, page 12 already.
Just found this. Wasted my reply on the old thread. Oh well, going to post headlines for this years Cowboys season. "Cowboys offensive line is mediocre again." "Cowboys should win the division again....provided the rest of the NFC East still suck." "Cowboys will be one and done if they make the playoffs." |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:11:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Mayfield style stadium home commercials are gonna take a weird turn... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: While they're at it, Cleveland should officially change their name to the "Browneyes" for Watson. They will get better play out of him... Does this trade mean I’ll never have to watch one of those cringeworthy commercials again? I sure hope so. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:12:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:
https://media4.giphy.com/media/IgEwQ9CCHUdCF3q8v4/200.gif Ah, Twitter. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/258158/9061658A-E235-4FA3-8AD6-D5BA0EA841CB_jpe-2318125.JPG  |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:19:46 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I was at work with shitty cell service all day, but the more I see the Watson news the more amazing it gets. his agent deserves some kind of award b/c holy crap did he fleece the browns. and mahomes only has $141 of his 10 year guaranteed??? oh man... The Mahomes contract is pretty amazing and creative. As far as guarantees go, his contract uses a rolling guarantee structure where the guarantees kick in 2 seasons in advance.
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:38:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Mahomes contract is pretty amazing and creative. As far as guarantees go, his contract uses a rolling guarantee structure where the guarantees kick in 2 seasons in advance.
Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I was at work with shitty cell service all day, but the more I see the Watson news the more amazing it gets. his agent deserves some kind of award b/c holy crap did he fleece the browns. and mahomes only has $141 of his 10 year guaranteed??? oh man... The Mahomes contract is pretty amazing and creative. As far as guarantees go, his contract uses a rolling guarantee structure where the guarantees kick in 2 seasons in advance.
That makes a lot more sense. I still wonder if he’ll want a restructure in a few years. I also wonder what the Watson contract does to Kyler negotiations. I’m sure Kyler argues he’s worth what Watson got. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:51:47 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That makes a lot more sense. I still wonder if he’ll want a restructure in a few years. I also wonder what the Watson contract does to Kyler negotiations. I’m sure Kyler argues he’s worth what Watson got. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I was at work with shitty cell service all day, but the more I see the Watson news the more amazing it gets. his agent deserves some kind of award b/c holy crap did he fleece the browns. and mahomes only has $141 of his 10 year guaranteed??? oh man... The Mahomes contract is pretty amazing and creative. As far as guarantees go, his contract uses a rolling guarantee structure where the guarantees kick in 2 seasons in advance.
That makes a lot more sense. I still wonder if he’ll want a restructure in a few years. I also wonder what the Watson contract does to Kyler negotiations. I’m sure Kyler argues he’s worth what Watson got. When the Mahomes contract was signed, the general assumption across most of the guys who follow NFL contracts assumed it would be scrapped by year 5. We'll see. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:54:33 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yippee, the return of the National Felons League. Time again to sort the lint collection  |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 9:56:12 AM EDT
[#30]
Speaking of contract creativity, there are some fun details with JuJu Smith-Schuster...
So we start with this:
Then we look at this: "Player incentives are considered "likely to be earned" (LTBE) or "not likely to be earned" (NLTBE) based on the player or team's prior-year performance. For example, if a player has a $500,000 incentive for accumulating 10 sacks in the upcoming season and he had 10 sacks the previous season, the incentive is considered LTBE. If he did not record 10 sacks in the previous season, the incentive is considered NLTBE." LTBE incentives count against the cap. NLTBE incentives do NOT count against the cap. Based on JuJu's recent stats, his contract very likely has a pile of "NLTBE" incentives that he is actually very likely to earn. The Chiefs might really be getting an $11M guy for a $3M cap hit. https://www.si.com/nfl/chiefs/gm-report/grab-a-tinfoil-hat-juju-smith-schusters-chiefs-contract-might-be-hilarious |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 10:06:18 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Speaking of contract creativity, there are some fun details with JuJu Smith-Schuster... So we start with this:
Then we look at this: "Player incentives are considered "likely to be earned" (LTBE) or "not likely to be earned" (NLTBE) based on the player or team's prior-year performance. For example, if a player has a $500,000 incentive for accumulating 10 sacks in the upcoming season and he had 10 sacks the previous season, the incentive is considered LTBE. If he did not record 10 sacks in the previous season, the incentive is considered NLTBE." LTBE incentives count against the cap. NLTBE incentives do NOT count against the cap. Based on JuJu's recent stats, his contract very likely has a pile of "NLTBE" incentives that he is actually very likely to earn. The Chiefs might really be getting an $11M guy for a $3M cap hit. https://www.si.com/nfl/chiefs/gm-report/grab-a-tinfoil-hat-juju-smith-schusters-chiefs-contract-might-be-hilarious I assume those incentives are then applied to next year's cap? |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 10:09:42 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I was at work with shitty cell service all day, but the more I see the Watson news the more amazing it gets. his agent deserves some kind of award b/c holy crap did he fleece the browns. Also made his year one base salary $1 million, so while he is suspended, his per game loss will be minimal. If the NFL suspends him for the entire season, he only loses $1 million! That is some quality agenting... |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 10:21:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I assume those incentives are then applied to next year's cap? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Speaking of contract creativity, there are some fun details with JuJu Smith-Schuster... So we start with this:
Then we look at this: "Player incentives are considered "likely to be earned" (LTBE) or "not likely to be earned" (NLTBE) based on the player or team's prior-year performance. For example, if a player has a $500,000 incentive for accumulating 10 sacks in the upcoming season and he had 10 sacks the previous season, the incentive is considered LTBE. If he did not record 10 sacks in the previous season, the incentive is considered NLTBE." LTBE incentives count against the cap. NLTBE incentives do NOT count against the cap. Based on JuJu's recent stats, his contract very likely has a pile of "NLTBE" incentives that he is actually very likely to earn. The Chiefs might really be getting an $11M guy for a $3M cap hit. https://www.si.com/nfl/chiefs/gm-report/grab-a-tinfoil-hat-juju-smith-schusters-chiefs-contract-might-be-hilarious I assume those incentives are then applied to next year's cap? Yes. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 10:23:14 AM EDT
[#34]
*sigh*
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Posted: 3/19/2022 10:31:12 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Also made his year one base salary $1 million, so while he is suspended, his per game loss will be minimal. If the NFL suspends him for the entire season, he only loses $1 million! That is some quality agenting... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I was at work with shitty cell service all day, but the more I see the Watson news the more amazing it gets. his agent deserves some kind of award b/c holy crap did he fleece the browns. Also made his year one base salary $1 million, so while he is suspended, his per game loss will be minimal. If the NFL suspends him for the entire season, he only loses $1 million! That is some quality agenting... |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 11:08:00 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Also made his year one base salary $1 million, so while he is suspended, his per game loss will be minimal. If the NFL suspends him for the entire season, he only loses $1 million! That is some quality agenting... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I was at work with shitty cell service all day, but the more I see the Watson news the more amazing it gets. his agent deserves some kind of award b/c holy crap did he fleece the browns. Also made his year one base salary $1 million, so while he is suspended, his per game loss will be minimal. If the NFL suspends him for the entire season, he only loses $1 million! That is some quality agenting... Somebody please give the phone number of Butthole Massage's agent to Groot. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 11:25:29 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Somebody please give the phone number of Butthole Massage's agent to Groot. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I was at work with shitty cell service all day, but the more I see the Watson news the more amazing it gets. his agent deserves some kind of award b/c holy crap did he fleece the browns. Also made his year one base salary $1 million, so while he is suspended, his per game loss will be minimal. If the NFL suspends him for the entire season, he only loses $1 million! That is some quality agenting... Somebody please give the phone number of Butthole Massage's agent to Groot. oh shit i forgot he's due for a new contract, too. AZ and B'more gotta be so mad at the browns right now! also, i can't help but wonder if chargers and bengals are already thinking of extensions. herbert and burrow are clearly franchise guys. locking them up early is always the right move. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 11:52:59 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: oh shit i forgot he's due for a new contract, too. AZ and B'more gotta be so mad at the browns right now! also, i can't help but wonder if chargers and bengals are already thinking of extensions. herbert and burrow are clearly franchise guys. locking them up early is always the right move. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I was at work with shitty cell service all day, but the more I see the Watson news the more amazing it gets. his agent deserves some kind of award b/c holy crap did he fleece the browns. Also made his year one base salary $1 million, so while he is suspended, his per game loss will be minimal. If the NFL suspends him for the entire season, he only loses $1 million! That is some quality agenting... Somebody please give the phone number of Butthole Massage's agent to Groot. oh shit i forgot he's due for a new contract, too. AZ and B'more gotta be so mad at the browns right now! also, i can't help but wonder if chargers and bengals are already thinking of extensions. herbert and burrow are clearly franchise guys. locking them up early is always the right move.  Watson really made some chaos with this. It'll be fun. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 12:19:26 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yippee, the return of the National Felons League. Time again to sort the lint collection You appear to suffer from the delusion that anyone cares what you think. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 1:35:02 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The Browns' Twitter account still hasn't announced their trade for a franchise QB involving $230M guaranteed money and 3 first round picks. That seems like it might be big news for a team so I wonder why they haven't announced it yet. Hmm. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 2:34:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Probably got a Mayfield trade in the works and they want to announce both together. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The Browns' Twitter account still hasn't announced their trade for a franchise QB involving $230M guaranteed money and 3 first round picks. That seems like it might be big news for a team so I wonder why they haven't announced it yet. Hmm. For the first time in maybe half a century the Browns have a top 10 QB. Its possible, but I very seriously doubt they are holding off on mentioning it on their Twitter account because they want to wait until they offload the previous QB first. What would be the point? Everyone knows they traded for Watson, everyone knows they want to trade away Mayfield, and they wouldn't be the first ones to announce a trade anyway. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 2:37:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anheuser-Busch, the official beer sponsor of the NFL and more than two dozen of its teams, has ended its partnership with the Washington Commanders, becoming the third company in the past year to cut ties with the franchise. In a statement provided to The Washington Post by a company spokesperson, Anheuser-Busch said it decided not to renew its sponsorship of the Commanders "at this time." "We remain fully committed to Washington football fans, and we look forward to continuing our long-term partnership with the NFL and our other 26 team partners to create meaningful experiences and connections for fans across the country," the spokesperson said. I find it fascinating how the Redskins are thought of by many as a diseased franchise and yet they remain a top 5 most valuable NFL team. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 2:49:16 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: For the first time in maybe half a century the Browns have a top 10 QB. Its possible, but I very seriously doubt they are holding off on mentioning it on their Twitter account because they want to wait until they offload the previous QB first. What would be the point? Everyone knows they traded for Watson, everyone knows they want to trade away Mayfield, and they wouldn't be the first ones to announce a trade anyway. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 3:14:35 PM EDT
[#44]
Any thoughts on Watson’s suspension length? Zeke got six games for one accusation, does that mean Watson is going to get 132 games(6x22)?
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Posted: 3/19/2022 3:18:13 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Any thoughts on Watson’s suspension length? Zeke got six games for one accusation, does that mean Watson is going to get 132 games(6x22)? I'm gonna guess 4 games. No particular basis for that. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 3:22:48 PM EDT
[#46]
I am going to go out on a limb and guess he gets a full season suspension.
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Posted: 3/19/2022 3:28:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It just strikes me as the kind of executive-idiot thinking you find in large organizations. "Baker requested a trade, so let's get it done and pretend this was mutual for all parties." Meanwhile, everyone knows what actually happened. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: For the first time in maybe half a century the Browns have a top 10 QB. Its possible, but I very seriously doubt they are holding off on mentioning it on their Twitter account because they want to wait until they offload the previous QB first. What would be the point? Everyone knows they traded for Watson, everyone knows they want to trade away Mayfield, and they wouldn't be the first ones to announce a trade anyway. The timeline of events (them trying to get Watson, shitting on Baker, the deal for Watson falling through, telling Baker he can't leave, and then getting Watson) is well documented. The Browns' front office are obviously idiots, but I don't think even they are stupid enough to think people are going to buy a bullshit version of events. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 3:53:52 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Any thoughts on Watson’s suspension length? Zeke got six games for one accusation, does that mean Watson is going to get 132 games(6x22)? The Giants' Josh Brown wrote a manifesto about how he was god to women, they were his slaves, and he was free to do with them whatever he wanted. His wife said he beat the shit out of her many times and Brown admitted to police it was true. The NFL gave Brown a ONE game suspension. ONE. And then the same cunt (who is a HUGE Giants fan) that gave Brown a one game suspension gave Zeke a 6 game suspension based on nothing except the testimony of an ex-gf whose own friends, every witness, the police, DA, and the NFL's own investigator all said she was lying and/or wasn't credible. If you're trying to guess what punishment God King Clown Shoes and his cronies are going to hand out you might as well be picking lotto numbers. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 4:51:42 PM EDT
[#49]
Rams signed Stafford to a 4 year/$160M extension with $135M guaranteed.
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Posted: 3/19/2022 5:16:22 PM EDT
[#50]
Stafford only needs 5 more pick 6's to break Favre's career record of 31 (Favre played in 120 more games)
Considering Stafford is averaging 2.5 pick 6's in a 16 game season it seems likely he'll own the record. |
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