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Link Posted: 8/3/2022 4:01:30 PM EST
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Amy Schumer = 3 thumbs down.
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Betting $1500 on a game you didn’t play in = one year.

Sexually assaulting dozens of women = one year.

Reminds me of that comedy bit on how stupid it was for Netflix to go from a star rating system to a thumbs up/down system.

Stubbing your toe = thumbs down.

Adolf Hitler = thumbs down.


Amy Schumer = 3 thumbs down.

I could never stand that fatass talentless hack, but her being the reason Netflix went from a 1-5 star rating system to a thumbs up/down rating system makes me despise her even more.
Link Posted: 8/3/2022 4:02:23 PM EST
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This is the first I'm hearing about 12 games and $10M... Was this reported earlier?

Wouldn't be the first time Watson fucked up by not settling in this incident.
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I guess it was SI, I missed it too



Link Posted: 8/3/2022 4:03:41 PM EST
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AND like I also talked about before... Looks like Watson will have a chance to hold the suspension up with appeals. Which in the end would end the exact same way it did for Brady... Serving the suspension.

BUT, it would allow him to play in 2022, which alone would be a black eye for the NFL.

If Brady and Zeke ultimately didn’t win I don’t know why any other player would think they’d fair better.




Same with Zeke.  Everyone (including the NFL’s own investigator) said there was nothing there.

It didn’t matter.
Link Posted: 8/3/2022 4:06:21 PM EST
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Watson left the training field with the Browns public relations team after the news broke about the NFL appeal. He didn't take any questions. Obviously.
Link Posted: 8/3/2022 4:06:45 PM EST
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I thought everybody figured out that by "remorseful", he meant to the trouble it was causing the Browns.

Link Posted: 8/3/2022 4:08:49 PM EST
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Same with Zeke.  Everyone (including the NFL's own investigator) said there was nothing there.

It didn't matter.
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AND like I also talked about before... Looks like Watson will have a chance to hold the suspension up with appeals. Which in the end would end the exact same way it did for Brady... Serving the suspension.

BUT, it would allow him to play in 2022, which alone would be a black eye for the NFL.

If Brady and Zeke ultimately didn't win I don't know why any other player would think they'd fair better.




Same with Zeke.  Everyone (including the NFL's own investigator) said there was nothing there.

It didn't matter.
Yep. The courts have continuously ruled that it is the league's (employer's) discretion to discipline the players (employees) as long as they don't go outside the CBA and set policies.

The CBA and the set policies are intentionally left open ended/a bit vague to allow the league maximum authority. Combine with the brand new CBA in which the NFLPA gave Goodell 100% authority to adjust all discipline in appeal himself.

Watson has no chance of winning in court. But, as mentioned, he can delay the punishment for a while. Which is a big deal in itself.
Link Posted: 8/3/2022 4:10:24 PM EST
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As expected, and as we predicted/talked about previously. Didn't matter what Sue did as long as she did something. Then the NFL would just come in and change it to whatever they wanted.

I still think 1 year is soft. But it is a number people can accept. Anything less than a full season is unacceptable.
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So if he ups the suspension, can he also impose a fine? Would be fun to watch Watson get fined his average yearly salary as a big middle finger to his contract shenanigans.
Link Posted: 8/3/2022 4:12:06 PM EST
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Yep. The courts have continuously ruled that it is the league's (employer's) discretion to discipline the players (employees) as long as they don't go outside the CBA and set policies.

The CBA and the set policies are intentionally left open ended/a bit vague to allow the league maximum authority. Combine with the brand new CBA in which the NFLPA gave Goodell 100% authority to adjust all discipline in appeal himself.

Watson has no chance of winning in court. But, as mentioned, he can delay the punishment for a while. Which is a big deal in itself.
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AND like I also talked about before... Looks like Watson will have a chance to hold the suspension up with appeals. Which in the end would end the exact same way it did for Brady... Serving the suspension.

BUT, it would allow him to play in 2022, which alone would be a black eye for the NFL.

If Brady and Zeke ultimately didn't win I don't know why any other player would think they'd fair better.




Same with Zeke.  Everyone (including the NFL's own investigator) said there was nothing there.

It didn't matter.
Yep. The courts have continuously ruled that it is the league's (employer's) discretion to discipline the players (employees) as long as they don't go outside the CBA and set policies.

The CBA and the set policies are intentionally left open ended/a bit vague to allow the league maximum authority. Combine with the brand new CBA in which the NFLPA gave Goodell 100% authority to adjust all discipline in appeal himself.

Watson has no chance of winning in court. But, as mentioned, he can delay the punishment for a while. Which is a big deal in itself.

But why would he do that?  His contract was set up seemingly with the assumption he’d be suspended his first year.
Link Posted: 8/3/2022 4:12:56 PM EST
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YESSSSSSSS. Do it! Let's go!

Indefinite suspension and then fine him his entire fucking signing bonus (which he probably already paid to the 23 women he settled with). $45M fine. Do it!

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Link Posted: 8/3/2022 4:13:58 PM EST
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But why would he do that?  His contract was set up seemingly with the assumption he'd be suspended his first year.
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His contract has specific verbiage which guarantees his 2022 and 2023 salary, even from suspension. It doesn't matter if he is suspended in 2022 or 2023, he is getting all the money from the first 2 years. 100%. He could play 0 snaps in 2024 and he would still get the $46M base salary. His only concern would be if he was suspended into 2024.

It would be better for him professionally, as an athlete, to play this year, rather than miss back to back seasons.
Link Posted: 8/3/2022 4:16:50 PM EST
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Browns have zero recourse as it relates to the picks they gave up to get Watson, right?  So even if Watson gets suspended for a decade the Browns still lost those picks they traded to get him.
Link Posted: 8/3/2022 4:19:52 PM EST
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Browns have zero recourse as it relates to the picks they gave up to get Watson, right?  So even if Watson gets suspended for a decade the Browns still lost those picks they traded to get him.
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The Browns only recourse would be proving the Texans entered the trade deal in bad faith. IE the Texans knew more about Watson then what was already revealed to the public and knew something else may cause further problems.

So far nothing has come out (that I have seen), since the trade, that the Browns could push on.

Edit: And it would be things the TEXANS knew, not things Watson kept secret.
Link Posted: 8/3/2022 4:20:35 PM EST
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As expected, and as we predicted/talked about previously. Didn't matter what Sue did as long as she did something. Then the NFL would just come in and change it to whatever they wanted.

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Two years seems appropriate. Mainly because the Browns completely ignored that he was facing all the accusations, gave him the money guaranteed money ever despite it, and then structured his contract so he wouldn’t lose any real money.
Link Posted: 8/3/2022 4:21:10 PM EST
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YESSSSSSSS. Do it! Let's go!

Indefinite suspension and then fine him his entire fucking signing bonus (which he probably already paid to the 23 women he settled with). $45M fine. Do it!

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I will admit I'm a little surprised to see the NFL has decided to go absolutely nuclear on his ass like this.
Link Posted: 8/3/2022 4:21:17 PM EST
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Browns have zero recourse as it relates to the picks they gave up to get Watson, right?  So even if Watson gets suspended for a decade the Browns still lost those picks they traded to get him.
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Yes.
Link Posted: 8/3/2022 4:21:55 PM EST
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The Browns only recourse would be proving the Texans entered the trade deal in bad faith. IE the Texans knew more about Watson then what was already revealed to the public and knew something else may cause further problems.

So far nothing has come out (that I have seen), since the trade, that the Browns could push on.
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That wouldn't work.  They'd just invoke the Brown Defense.  

"Your honor, may I remind the Court that the Plaintiff is the Cleveland Browns."

"Case Dismissed!"
Link Posted: 8/3/2022 4:26:18 PM EST
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Can anyone think of ANY player-for-picks trade that was, with zero hindsight, worse than what the Browns gave up to get Watson and the subsequent contract they gave him?

The only one I can think of even in the same ballpark is the Seahawks giving up two firsts for Jamal Adams.
Link Posted: 8/3/2022 4:30:12 PM EST
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Can anyone think of ANY player-for-picks trade that was, with zero hindsight, worse than what the Browns gave up to get Watson and the subsequent contract they gave him?

The only one I can think of even in the same ballpark is the Seahawks giving up two firsts for Jamal Adams.
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Player for picks?  So we're not including the Trey Lance deal?  
Link Posted: 8/3/2022 4:34:11 PM EST
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Can anyone think of ANY player-for-picks trade that was, with zero hindsight, worse than what the Browns gave up to get Watson and the subsequent contract they gave him?

The only one I can think of even in the same ballpark is the Seahawks giving up two firsts for Jamal Adams.
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There's no way the Browns aren't #1 on the worst trade deal of all time (in every sense of the term, not just on draft capital but just common sense and repercussions after the trade).

They gave up three 1st round picks, two 4th round picks and a 3rd round pick. For a player that had not taken a snap in a game in 14 months. They then immediately gave him a re-negotiated contract worth $230M, 100% fully guaranteed. All while knowing he had sexually assaulted dozens of women and was still facing league discipline. With the knowledge that he could be suspended for another year or more, which means he potentially would not take his first snap as a Brown until he had been out of the game for 31 months in all.
Link Posted: 8/3/2022 5:10:53 PM EST
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Arizona Cardinals new wide receiver Marquise Brown was arrested for criminal speeding this morning. AZ DPS spokesman stated Marquise was arrested at 7:05 am while headed southbound on Loop 101 in the HOV lane. No speed was given, however the legal statute states it is a class 3 misdemeanor when one is traveling at least 85 MPH and/or at least 20 MPH over the posted speed limit.

Edit: Loop 101 has a posted limit of 65. So he was going in excess of 85 MPH.
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Update from the arrest report. He was going 126 MPH in the HOV lane, posted 65 MPH zone.


Link Posted: 8/3/2022 5:22:55 PM EST
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Link Posted: 8/3/2022 5:24:16 PM EST
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Update from the arrest report. He was going 126 MPH in the HOV lane, posted 65 MPH zone.


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Arizona Cardinals new wide receiver Marquise Brown was arrested for criminal speeding this morning. AZ DPS spokesman stated Marquise was arrested at 7:05 am while headed southbound on Loop 101 in the HOV lane. No speed was given, however the legal statute states it is a class 3 misdemeanor when one is traveling at least 85 MPH and/or at least 20 MPH over the posted speed limit.

Edit: Loop 101 has a posted limit of 65. So he was going in excess of 85 MPH.
Update from the arrest report. He was going 126 MPH in the HOV lane, posted 65 MPH zone.




So close to double.
Link Posted: 8/3/2022 5:41:07 PM EST
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Link Posted: 8/3/2022 5:49:52 PM EST
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As expected, and as we predicted/talked about previously. Didn't matter what Sue did as long as she did something. Then the NFL would just come in and change it to whatever they wanted.

I still think 1 year is soft. But it is a number people can accept. Anything less than a full season is unacceptable.
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Agreed
Link Posted: 8/3/2022 5:55:41 PM EST
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Via Sports Illustrated : Aaron Rodgers Opens Up About Use of Psychedelics, Mental Health

Aaron Rodgers opened up about his journey to self-love and how ayahuasca, a psychoactive tea containing the hallucinogenic drug DMT, helped him reach the point he's at now.

The tea has been used for thousands of years for traditional healing purposes in Central and South America.

The Packers quarterback joined Aubrey Marcus, the founder of supplement company Onnit, on his podcast this week to discuss what this mental health journey has been like for him.

"To me, one of the core tenets of your mental health is that self-love," Rodgers said. "That's what ayahuasca did for me, was help me see how to unconditionally love myself. It's only in that unconditional self love, that then I'm able to truly be able to unconditionally love others. And what better way to work on my mental health than to have an experience like that?"

"The greatest gift I can give my teammates, in my opinion, is to be able to show up and to be someone who can model unconditional love to them," Rodgers said. "I mean obviously it's important I play well, and show up and lead and all that stuff. They won't care about what you say until they know how much you care."
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Link Posted: 8/3/2022 6:01:55 PM EST
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Aaron Rodgers opened up about his journey to self-love and how ayahuasca, a psychoactive tea containing the hallucinogenic drug DMT, helped him reach the point he's at now.

The tea has been used for thousands of years for traditional healing purposes in Central and South America.

The Packers quarterback joined Aubrey Marcus, the founder of supplement company Onnit, on his podcast this week to discuss what this mental health journey has been like for him.

"To me, one of the core tenets of your mental health is that self-love," Rodgers said. "That's what ayahuasca did for me, was help me see how to unconditionally love myself. It's only in that unconditional self love, that then I'm able to truly be able to unconditionally love others. And what better way to work on my mental health than to have an experience like that?"

"The greatest gift I can give my teammates, in my opinion, is to be able to show up and to be someone who can model unconditional love to them," Rodgers said. "I mean obviously it's important I play well, and show up and lead and all that stuff. They won't care about what you say until they know how much you care."

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Wasn't there some WR/TE that played for the Packers for 5+ seasons and said Rodgers refused to give out his cell number?  I know multiple former Packers have said he's an asshole and not a good teammate.  The "model of unconditional love" seems like a leap.
Link Posted: 8/3/2022 6:11:05 PM EST
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Aaron Rodgers opened up about his journey to self-love and how ayahuasca, a psychoactive tea containing the hallucinogenic drug DMT, helped him reach the point he's at now.

The tea has been used for thousands of years for traditional healing purposes in Central and South America.

The Packers quarterback joined Aubrey Marcus, the founder of supplement company Onnit, on his podcast this week to discuss what this mental health journey has been like for him.

"To me, one of the core tenets of your mental health is that self-love," Rodgers said. "That's what ayahuasca did for me, was help me see how to unconditionally love myself. It's only in that unconditional self love, that then I'm able to truly be able to unconditionally love others. And what better way to work on my mental health than to have an experience like that?"

"The greatest gift I can give my teammates, in my opinion, is to be able to show up and to be someone who can model unconditional love to them," Rodgers said. "I mean obviously it's important I play well, and show up and lead and all that stuff. They won't care about what you say until they know how much you care."

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Say what you want about hippies, but Ayahuasca seems to be damn near a miracle drug. It can practically break psychological (not physical) drug and alcohol addictions in just a few days.
Link Posted: 8/3/2022 6:30:32 PM EST
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Can anyone think of ANY player-for-picks trade that was, with zero hindsight, worse than what the Browns gave up to get Watson and the subsequent contract they gave him?

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Basically any trade for Carson Wentz?


Well, maybe not, Wentz did actually get to play for each team that has traded for him (pending this season, of course).
Link Posted: 8/3/2022 6:33:34 PM EST
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Just so I’m clear:

Watson was offered a year long suspension and a $10 mil fine for this upcoming season, and he declined.

NFL / Goodell didn’t want to deal with the Watson suspension so they hired a female judge to deal with it.

Said judge gives her ‘ruling’ and recommended suspension that was supposed to be the end all and be all.

Then, the nfl and goodell are NOT happy with the ruling and want a longer/indefinite suspension and heavy fine.

The NFLPA is not happy with the suspension and wants a shorter suspension.

Do I have this circus right so far? Jesus…
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Say what you want about hippies, but Ayahuasca seems to be damn near a miracle drug. It can practically break psychological (not physical) drug and alcohol addictions in just a few days.
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Via Sports Illustrated : Aaron Rodgers Opens Up About Use of Psychedelics, Mental Health

Aaron Rodgers opened up about his journey to self-love and how ayahuasca, a psychoactive tea containing the hallucinogenic drug DMT, helped him reach the point he's at now.

The tea has been used for thousands of years for traditional healing purposes in Central and South America.

The Packers quarterback joined Aubrey Marcus, the founder of supplement company Onnit, on his podcast this week to discuss what this mental health journey has been like for him.

"To me, one of the core tenets of your mental health is that self-love," Rodgers said. "That's what ayahuasca did for me, was help me see how to unconditionally love myself. It's only in that unconditional self love, that then I'm able to truly be able to unconditionally love others. And what better way to work on my mental health than to have an experience like that?"

"The greatest gift I can give my teammates, in my opinion, is to be able to show up and to be someone who can model unconditional love to them," Rodgers said. "I mean obviously it's important I play well, and show up and lead and all that stuff. They won't care about what you say until they know how much you care."

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Say what you want about hippies, but Ayahuasca seems to be damn near a miracle drug. It can practically break psychological (not physical) drug and alcohol addictions in just a few days.


Lol, if that’s the excuse people want to give for getting high, then ok.

And people say bc you do it with some ‘spiritual guy’ it’s ‘not about getting high.’

But that’s what it is, it’s a hallucinogen that gets you high.
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Lol, if that’s the excuse people want to give for getting high, then ok.

And people say bc you do it with some ‘spiritual guy’ it’s ‘not about getting high.’

But that’s what it is, it’s a hallucinogen that gets you high.
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Aaron Rodgers opened up about his journey to self-love and how ayahuasca, a psychoactive tea containing the hallucinogenic drug DMT, helped him reach the point he's at now.

The tea has been used for thousands of years for traditional healing purposes in Central and South America.

The Packers quarterback joined Aubrey Marcus, the founder of supplement company Onnit, on his podcast this week to discuss what this mental health journey has been like for him.

"To me, one of the core tenets of your mental health is that self-love," Rodgers said. "That's what ayahuasca did for me, was help me see how to unconditionally love myself. It's only in that unconditional self love, that then I'm able to truly be able to unconditionally love others. And what better way to work on my mental health than to have an experience like that?"

"The greatest gift I can give my teammates, in my opinion, is to be able to show up and to be someone who can model unconditional love to them," Rodgers said. "I mean obviously it's important I play well, and show up and lead and all that stuff. They won't care about what you say until they know how much you care."

https://media1.giphy.com/media/26gJy68fzJvOaqRXi/source.gif

Say what you want about hippies, but Ayahuasca seems to be damn near a miracle drug. It can practically break psychological (not physical) drug and alcohol addictions in just a few days.


Lol, if that’s the excuse people want to give for getting high, then ok.

And people say bc you do it with some ‘spiritual guy’ it’s ‘not about getting high.’

But that’s what it is, it’s a hallucinogen that gets you high.

“In order to not be addicted to drugs I’m getting high!”
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Lol, if that’s the excuse people want to give for getting high, then ok.

And people say bc you do it with some ‘spiritual guy’ it’s ‘not about getting high.’

But that’s what it is, it’s a hallucinogen that gets you high.
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Aaron Rodgers opened up about his journey to self-love and how ayahuasca, a psychoactive tea containing the hallucinogenic drug DMT, helped him reach the point he's at now.

The tea has been used for thousands of years for traditional healing purposes in Central and South America.

The Packers quarterback joined Aubrey Marcus, the founder of supplement company Onnit, on his podcast this week to discuss what this mental health journey has been like for him.

"To me, one of the core tenets of your mental health is that self-love," Rodgers said. "That's what ayahuasca did for me, was help me see how to unconditionally love myself. It's only in that unconditional self love, that then I'm able to truly be able to unconditionally love others. And what better way to work on my mental health than to have an experience like that?"

"The greatest gift I can give my teammates, in my opinion, is to be able to show up and to be someone who can model unconditional love to them," Rodgers said. "I mean obviously it's important I play well, and show up and lead and all that stuff. They won't care about what you say until they know how much you care."

https://media1.giphy.com/media/26gJy68fzJvOaqRXi/source.gif

Say what you want about hippies, but Ayahuasca seems to be damn near a miracle drug. It can practically break psychological (not physical) drug and alcohol addictions in just a few days.


Lol, if that’s the excuse people want to give for getting high, then ok.

And people say bc you do it with some ‘spiritual guy’ it’s ‘not about getting high.’

But that’s what it is, it’s a hallucinogen that gets you high.

Of course it’s a drug that gets you high. That’s literally the point. The stuff tastes like puke, and most people shit themselves the first few times they take it. The high is the entire point of consuming it.

I’m not trying to convince anyone to do drugs. I’m just relaying the research I’ve done into Ayahuasca sessions over the last few years.
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And at that point, from a $$$ standpoint, their 2022 salary scheme worked, but by 2023 he'll have sat out for 2 full years.  He'll be 27, so not the end of the world, but he's going to be rusty.
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As expected, and as we predicted/talked about previously. Didn't matter what Sue did as long as she did something. Then the NFL would just come in and change it to whatever they wanted.

I still think 1 year is soft. But it is a number people can accept. Anything less than a full season is unacceptable.


And at that point, from a $$$ standpoint, their 2022 salary scheme worked, but by 2023 he'll have sat out for 2 full years.  He'll be 27, so not the end of the world, but he's going to be rusty.


It’s likely worse than that.

There were questions about Watson’s performance when we was in a stable-ish situation with a receiving group that included Hopkins, Fuller, and Stills.

When/if he gets back, he’ll be crazy rusty, he’ll be in a new system, and he’ll have Amari Cooper and… that’s about it.

Even without the legal/moral issues, I’d be concerned about his performance this season. If he’s parked until next season? Yikes.
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Yep. The courts have continuously ruled that it is the league's (employer's) discretion to discipline the players (employees) as long as they don't go outside the CBA and set policies.

The CBA and the set policies are intentionally left open ended/a bit vague to allow the league maximum authority. Combine with the brand new CBA in which the NFLPA gave Goodell 100% authority to adjust all discipline in appeal himself.

Watson has no chance of winning in court. But, as mentioned, he can delay the punishment for a while. Which is a big deal in itself.
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AND like I also talked about before... Looks like Watson will have a chance to hold the suspension up with appeals. Which in the end would end the exact same way it did for Brady... Serving the suspension.

BUT, it would allow him to play in 2022, which alone would be a black eye for the NFL.

If Brady and Zeke ultimately didn't win I don't know why any other player would think they'd fair better.




Same with Zeke.  Everyone (including the NFL's own investigator) said there was nothing there.

It didn't matter.
Yep. The courts have continuously ruled that it is the league's (employer's) discretion to discipline the players (employees) as long as they don't go outside the CBA and set policies.

The CBA and the set policies are intentionally left open ended/a bit vague to allow the league maximum authority. Combine with the brand new CBA in which the NFLPA gave Goodell 100% authority to adjust all discipline in appeal himself.

Watson has no chance of winning in court. But, as mentioned, he can delay the punishment for a while. Which is a big deal in itself.


I think the Commissioner’s Exempt list is in play here, too.
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AND like I also talked about before... Looks like Watson will have a chance to hold the suspension up with appeals. Which in the end would end the exact same way it did for Brady... Serving the suspension.

BUT, it would allow him to play in 2022, which alone would be a black eye for the NFL.
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But by putting it to a real court, that means a discovery process that we'll see info from. Despite Deshaun insisting he's innocent, the chances of that being true are pretty slim IMO. Not that he's winning much of a PR battle currently, but it'd probably get a lot worse...
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Wasn't there some WR/TE that played for the Packers for 5+ seasons and said Rodgers refused to give out his cell number?  I know multiple former Packers have said he's an asshole and not a good teammate.  The "model of unconditional love" seems like a leap.
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Via Sports Illustrated : Aaron Rodgers Opens Up About Use of Psychedelics, Mental Health

Aaron Rodgers opened up about his journey to self-love and how ayahuasca, a psychoactive tea containing the hallucinogenic drug DMT, helped him reach the point he's at now.

The tea has been used for thousands of years for traditional healing purposes in Central and South America.

The Packers quarterback joined Aubrey Marcus, the founder of supplement company Onnit, on his podcast this week to discuss what this mental health journey has been like for him.

"To me, one of the core tenets of your mental health is that self-love," Rodgers said. "That's what ayahuasca did for me, was help me see how to unconditionally love myself. It's only in that unconditional self love, that then I'm able to truly be able to unconditionally love others. And what better way to work on my mental health than to have an experience like that?"

"The greatest gift I can give my teammates, in my opinion, is to be able to show up and to be someone who can model unconditional love to them," Rodgers said. "I mean obviously it's important I play well, and show up and lead and all that stuff. They won't care about what you say until they know how much you care."

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Wasn't there some WR/TE that played for the Packers for 5+ seasons and said Rodgers refused to give out his cell number?  I know multiple former Packers have said he's an asshole and not a good teammate.  The "model of unconditional love" seems like a leap.


Jennings (WR) and Finley (TE) are pretty much the only outspoken ex-Packers who say anything bad about Rodgers.
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But by putting it to a real court, that means a discovery process that we'll see info from. Despite Deshaun insisting he's innocent, the chances of that being true are pretty slim IMO. Not that he's winning much of a PR battle currently, but it'd probably get a lot worse...
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AND like I also talked about before... Looks like Watson will have a chance to hold the suspension up with appeals. Which in the end would end the exact same way it did for Brady... Serving the suspension.

BUT, it would allow him to play in 2022, which alone would be a black eye for the NFL.


But by putting it to a real court, that means a discovery process that we'll see info from. Despite Deshaun insisting he's innocent, the chances of that being true are pretty slim IMO. Not that he's winning much of a PR battle currently, but it'd probably get a lot worse...


That would be a disaster if he tried to relitigate the case.  He's already got one judge that didn't buy anything he was selling.  

As I understand it, if the NFL appeal, which is the NFL appealing the punishment to itself, results in indefinite suspension or whatever and Watson and the NFLPA take that to court, they will argue that the NFL is unfair and making it up as they go along.  

Which is kind of true, but how was the NFL supposed to forsee exactly this kind of behavior and put that in the Personal Conduct Policy?  Unless Watson could show that the NFL has deviated from the agreed upon terms of the CBA, he's done, and the NFL has already won this argument in the Brady and Zeke cases.
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I forgot Flacco was still in the league.

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He won a Super Bowl, won Super Bowl MVP, has career earnings of $165M, and he's in his late 30s.  He must REALLY hate his family to still be doing this.  It's one thing to be pushing 40 and have a legit shot at making a playoff run as a starter, but he's a BACKUP on the JETS.

And, yeah, he's probably clearing about $2M this season and, while that does sound like hitting the lotto to us, to a guy with career earnings of $165M that is relatively insignificant.  
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He won a Super Bowl, won Super Bowl MVP, has career earnings of $165M, and he's in his late 30s.  He must REALLY hate his family to still be doing this.  It's one thing to be pushing 40 and have a legit shot at making a playoff run as a starter, but he's a BACKUP on the JETS.

And, yeah, he's probably clearing about $2M this season and, while that does sound like hitting the lotto to us, to a guy with career earnings of $165M that is relatively insignificant.  
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I think he’s more serviceable that at least 2-3 of the current named starters.  Maybe he just loves the game.  Who knows, he could end up in an Ryan Fitzmagic scenario if a starter goes down, he gets traded, etc.
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Training camp hype on Packers 2022 4th round WR pick. (video)



Rodgers on Doubs: https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/08/03/aaron-rodgers-rookie-wr-romeo-doubs-doing-rare-things-to-start-camp/
At his locker on Wednesday, the four-time NFL MVP said Doubs has made the most of his early opportunities during camp, and the consistency of the "wow" plays made by the rookie has Rodgers thinking about some of the recent greats at receiver in Green Bay.
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