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Posted: 8/16/2022 1:16:53 PM EST
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Posted: 8/16/2022 1:17:41 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I recall a time when you said Wentz was NOT injury prone. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That contract is an albatross. Just look at what Wentz was traded for, and his ceiling is far higher than Jimmy's. Both have been hurt a lot. "NO ONE HAS ANY HIGHER RISK FOR INJURY THAN ANYONE ELSE! THINGS LIKE HISTORY AND GENETICS PLAY NO FACTOR!" Haha, good times. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 1:19:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: CBS has released their official game announcer lineup list. Team 1: Jim Nantz, Tony Romo, Tracy Wolfson Team 2: Ian Eagle, Charles Davis, Evan Washburn Team 3: Kevin Harlan, Trent Green, Melanie Collins Team 4: Greg Gumbel, Adam Archuleta, AJ Ross Team 5: Andrew Catalon, James Lofton Team 6: Spero Dedes, Jay Feely Team 7: Tom McCarthy, Tiki Barber Rotating play by play: Beth Mowins Rotating field reporters: Amanda Renner, Aditi Kinkhabwala, Michael Grady Rules analyst: Gene Steratore Edit: Week 1 lineup: Steelers @ Bengals: Team 2 Patriots @ Dolphins: Team 4 Colts @ Texans: Team 7 Ravens @ Jets: Team 5 + Michael Grady Browns @ Panthers: Team 6 + Aditi Kinkhabwala Chiefs @ Cardinals: Team 1 Raiders @ Chargers: Team 3 Their A team desperately needs an upgrade for sideline reporter. Wolfson is only 3 years older than Erin Andrews and yet she looks old enough to be her mother. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 1:21:44 PM EST
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A preposterous amount of shit talking.  Edit: Reportedly both defenses are putting it on today. Packers offense not doing much better than the Saints. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 1:22:28 PM EST
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Posted: 8/16/2022 1:26:30 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "NO ONE HAS ANY HIGHER RISK FOR INJURY THAN ANYONE ELSE! THINGS LIKE HISTORY AND GENETICS PLAY NO FACTOR!" Haha, good times. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: That contract is an albatross. Just look at what Wentz was traded for, and his ceiling is far higher than Jimmy's. Both have been hurt a lot. "NO ONE HAS ANY HIGHER RISK FOR INJURY THAN ANYONE ELSE! THINGS LIKE HISTORY AND GENETICS PLAY NO FACTOR!" Haha, good times. Never did see that causal link you kept claiming existed. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 1:27:35 PM EST
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There are a couple interesting trends with the Chiefs offense...
 First thing is, it really looks like RoJo is firmly on the outside looking in. I'm not seeing anything to suggest he gets a roster spot. The weirder one is WR Justin Watson. He's a 5th year re-tread that started his career in Tampa. That's a deep room where it's hard to get looks, but I'd expect talent to still find a way, and he didn't when he was there. There were rumors this guy was making noise as early as June, and even national guys like Schrager were in on him. I think Watson was also with the group of Chiefs that went to Texas to work out with Mahomes during the summer. In last week's game, Watson was pretty much a featured player after the first possession, and he looked pretty good in a variety of situations. This week, two days in at camp, he's been running with the 1s both days. After the game, I felt it was a safe assumption he's WR5, but I'm starting to wonder if he's not higher on the depth chart, and if so, who he's ahead of. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 1:30:46 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m not rehashing that discussion. My post was about Jimmy’s contract, not Wentz’s injuries. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: That contract is an albatross. Just look at what Wentz was traded for, and his ceiling is far higher than Jimmy's. Both have been hurt a lot. I’m not rehashing that discussion. My post was about Jimmy’s contract, not Wentz’s injuries. Considering the beating you took from at least half a dozen different posters that's probably a good idea. 
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Posted: 8/16/2022 1:39:34 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Considering the beating you took from at least half a dozen different posters that's probably a good idea. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: That contract is an albatross. Just look at what Wentz was traded for, and his ceiling is far higher than Jimmy's. Both have been hurt a lot. I’m not rehashing that discussion. My post was about Jimmy’s contract, not Wentz’s injuries. Considering the beating you took from at least half a dozen different posters that's probably a good idea. Half a dozen people on the internet once disagreed with me? My gosh, that’s a lot. Your arguments are of record. My comments are of record. I’m satisfied with my performance in that debate. Oh, and here’s my obligatory reminder of Dak rushing up the gut with no timeouts in a playoff game, resulting in one of the most hilarious endings to a game I can remember. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 1:48:17 PM EST
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Quoted: Quoted:  
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Posted: 8/16/2022 1:50:05 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Half a dozen people on the internet once disagreed with me? My gosh, that’s a lot. Your arguments are of record. My comments are of record. I’m satisfied with my performance in that debate. Oh, and here’s my obligatory reminder of Dak rushing up the gut with no timeouts in a playoff game, resulting in one of the most hilarious endings to a game I can remember. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: That contract is an albatross. Just look at what Wentz was traded for, and his ceiling is far higher than Jimmy's. Both have been hurt a lot. I’m not rehashing that discussion. My post was about Jimmy’s contract, not Wentz’s injuries. Considering the beating you took from at least half a dozen different posters that's probably a good idea. Half a dozen people on the internet once disagreed with me? My gosh, that’s a lot. Your arguments are of record. My comments are of record. I’m satisfied with my performance in that debate. Oh, and here’s my obligatory reminder of Dak rushing up the gut with no timeouts in a playoff game, resulting in one of the most hilarious endings to a game I can remember. The same person arguing with over half a dozen different people (mostly regulars) among 4+ different fanbases about the same topic at the same time is a lot for this thread. I can only recall seeing it maybe two other times. Come to think of it, in all those times the one person arguing with everyone else has always been you. Just a coincidence I'm sure. 
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Posted: 8/16/2022 1:52:54 PM EST
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Posted: 8/16/2022 2:00:07 PM EST
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I’m not going to argue the whole thing again. I laid out my case to my satisfaction.The fact that 4+ people disagree with me about a particular topic is not sufficient to change my mind. And none of it has to do with my original point, which is that Jimmy is hard to trade as of today.
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Posted: 8/16/2022 2:12:18 PM EST
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Better hide yer moms. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 2:14:43 PM EST
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Edit: Bass beat me...
 Double Edit: This kills the Jimmy G talk, but does leave the door open for Flacco to play against his old team (Baltimore) in week 1. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 2:30:50 PM EST
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Posted: 8/16/2022 2:32:31 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Edit: Bass beat me... Double Edit: This kills the Jimmy G talk, but does leave the door open for Flacco to play against his old team (Baltimore) in week 1. Week 1 could have Flacco vs the Ravens and Mayfield vs the Browns. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 3:03:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Their A team desperately needs an upgrade for sideline reporter. Wolfson is only 3 years older than Erin Andrews and yet she looks old enough to be her mother. Seems odd that Greg Gumbel is the 4th team. I think he's pretty good and he's more of an old school PBP guy. Why isn't he considered more like Joe Buck/Al Michaels? Maybe age and he doesn't want to be the #1 guy? |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 3:05:01 PM EST
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Former 1st round draft pick. Arizona than Miami than out of the league then Seattle and now cut by SF. Definitely solidly in the bust category. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 3:18:18 PM EST
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Former 1st round draft pick. Arizona than Miami than out of the league then Seattle and now cut by SF. Definitely solidly in the bust category. A good example of why you shouldn’t draft based on talent alone. He was a genetic freak. He was pushing 300 pounds and yet was capable of moving like a LB that weighed 50 pounds less. However, he also was prone to taking plays off, had attitude problems, etc. The red flags where there, but most of the “experts” (and the Cardinals) choose to ignore them because of how talented he was. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 3:40:57 PM EST
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Via WSJ:
The Greatest and Most Pointless Streak in Sports: 21 Straight NFL Preseason Wins The Baltimore Ravens have won 21 straight exhibition games, dating all the way back to 2016 even as the preseason seems to mean less and less. The 1972 Miami Dolphins, the 1970s Pittsburgh Steelers and the 21st-century New England Patriots have all gone on runs that will live on forever in the annals of NFL history. The present-day Baltimore Ravens have gone on a run that's perhaps even more improbable. It's also meaningless. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 3:51:17 PM EST
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Seahawks vs Steelers was the most watched preseason game since 2015 (seven years).
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Posted: 8/16/2022 3:56:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 8/16/2022 4:02:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Honestly? I don’t think suspensions for off the field behavior should be a thing. Let the legal system punish any infractions for things unrelated to their employment with the NFL. If their conduct is unbecoming, then fire them. So I say too harsh. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted:
Banner was the President of the Eagles for close to two decades and spent some time with Cleveland, Atlanta and ESPN. Has anyone, other than DW and his team, argued that 6 games is appropriate or too harsh? Honestly? I don’t think suspensions for off the field behavior should be a thing. Let the legal system punish any infractions for things unrelated to their employment with the NFL. If their conduct is unbecoming, then fire them. So I say too harsh. I typically am with you, let the justice system handle it, but in this case I can understand the league getting involved. This isn't a DUI or a one off event between a player and a single person, its way more serious. If nothing else the league punishment is "Hey stupid, don't put yourself in this position because even if you get away with it legally (or even the unlikely scenario of being completely innocent) you're poor decisions of seeking out insta-thot masseuses looks bad for all of us." And realistically it's their league so they can decide what's fitting, just like any other employer would. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 4:05:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not saying fights don't happen at normal practices, but they seem to happen at a much higher rate at joint practices. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Patriots joint camp with Panthers:
Imagine being even a little bit familiar with the NFL and thinking joint practices/camps are a good idea… I forget who was on McAfee the other day, but it was somebody who would know, and I guess from the coaches perspective that joint practices are more useful to them than the preseason games. For everybody else it sounds terrible. I'm not saying fights don't happen at normal practices, but they seem to happen at a much higher rate at joint practices. I can't recall anybody getting seriously injured in a fight whether it's practice or a game. I'm not sure I'd worry about it either. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 4:08:39 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: just like any other employer would. If I got busted driving drunk in real life, would I have problems at my job? Depends on the job, for some no, for others yes. Since there's a yes, I have no issue with the NFL issuing disciplinary action for DUIs. Do people get in trouble at work for smoking marijuana on their own personal time? Once again it depends on the job and location. For some no, for others yes. Since there's a yes, I have no issue with the NFL issuing disciplinary action (even if I personally think it is dumb and hypocritical). In this instance, would I get in trouble at work if I was very publicly accused of sexually assaulting two dozen women? Hard yes. I would be out of a job that day. So again, no issue with the NFL issuing disciplinary action. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 4:10:30 PM EST
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And that is how you social media. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 4:20:01 PM EST
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BetOnline map of what team each state believes will win the Super Bowl this year, based on Twitter data
 The Bills have 12 states. Rams 5 Broncos 4 Cowboys 4 Patriots 4 Bengals 3 Bucs 3 Chiefs 3 Raiders 3 Eagles 2 Titans 2 Colts 1 Packers 1 Ravens 1 Saints 1 Vikings 1 |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 4:23:20 PM EST
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Posted: 8/16/2022 4:38:46 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: BetOnline map of what team each state believes will win the Super Bowl this year, based on Twitter data https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FaTawJ8WYAIh-8y?format=jpg&name=small The Bills have 12 states. Rams 5 Broncos 4 Cowboys 4 Patriots 4 Bengals 3 Bucs 3 Chiefs 3 Raiders 3 Eagles 2 Titans 2 Colts 1 Packers 1 Ravens 1 Saints 1 Vikings 1 Who that area wants to win the Super Bowl: maybe. Who that area thinks will win the Super Bowl: no. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 4:38:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryDrew Lock, Chad Kelly, Paxton Lynch, Trevor Siemian. At some point one of these guys is gonna be good.
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Posted: 8/16/2022 4:50:54 PM EST
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Should be no surprise but looking at the TNF/SNF/MNF schedule, the Bills, Rams, Chargers, Bengals, and Buccs are getting a lot of primetime games.
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Posted: 8/16/2022 4:57:08 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: BetOnline map of what team each state believes will win the Super Bowl this year, based on Twitter data https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FaTawJ8WYAIh-8y?format=jpg&name=small The Bills have 12 states. Rams 5 Broncos 4 Cowboys 4 Patriots 4 Bengals 3 Bucs 3 Chiefs 3 Raiders 3 Eagles 2 Titans 2 Colts 1 Packers 1 Ravens 1 Saints 1 Vikings 1 |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 4:58:27 PM EST
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The Patriots had him 4th on their official depth chart last week, I wonder if this was a known/growing issue. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 5:17:51 PM EST
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Raiders found out that Robinson was only decent because of Mahomes. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 5:20:46 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Then what the fuck are you doing here? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Fits right in with the rest of ARFcom that still supports the NFL.  Then what the fuck are you doing here? Laughing at you stooges. 
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Posted: 8/16/2022 5:42:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Laughing at you stooges. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Fits right in with the rest of ARFcom that still supports the NFL. Then what the fuck are you doing here? Laughing at you stooges. Jesus. And you probably think WE'RE wasting our time... |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 5:51:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Laughing at you stooges. Childish dribble... |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 6:01:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: BetOnline map of what team each state believes will win the Super Bowl this year, based on Twitter data https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FaTawJ8WYAIh-8y?format=jpg&name=small The Bills have 12 states. Rams 5 Broncos 4 Cowboys 4 Patriots 4 Bengals 3 Bucs 3 Chiefs 3 Raiders 3 Eagles 2 Titans 2 Colts 1 Packers 1 Ravens 1 Saints 1 Vikings 1 Bills should have Wyoming for obvious reasons |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 6:09:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Drew Lock, Chad Kelly, Paxton Lynch, Trevor Siemian. At some point one of these guys is gonna be good. Good grief it’s a who’s who of Elway busts. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 6:13:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good grief it’s a who’s who of Elway busts. And the reason I'm glad he didn't get Allen |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 6:43:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good grief it’s a who’s who of Elway busts. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Drew Lock, Chad Kelly, Paxton Lynch, Trevor Siemian. At some point one of these guys is gonna be good. Good grief it’s a who’s who of Elway busts. And yet, for some reason, he is considered by some as a "quarterback whisperer." |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 7:04:18 PM EST
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Raiders found out that Robinson was only decent because of Mahomes. And Vernon Butler should be on the list of all time bad FA contracts. Never did produce. Last year the Bills wasted a roster spot on him because it would have cost money to cut his guaranteed contract. He spent many games as a healthy inactive. After two lower paid DTs got hurt he started splitting time with a couple of PS players. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 7:10:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: BetOnline map of what team each state believes will win the Super Bowl this year, based on Twitter data https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FaTawJ8WYAIh-8y?format=jpg&name=small The Bills have 12 states. Rams 5 Broncos 4 Cowboys 4 Patriots 4 Bengals 3 Bucs 3 Chiefs 3 Raiders 3 Eagles 2 Titans 2 Colts 1 Packers 1 Ravens 1 Saints 1 Vikings 1 People are stupid but I doubt if "believes" is fair. Where is the line between homer optimism and sheer insanity? Between Pats fans and Bears fans? |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 7:18:34 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: BetOnline map of what team each state believes will win the Super Bowl this year, based on Twitter data https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FaTawJ8WYAIh-8y?format=jpg&name=small The Bills have 12 states. Rams 5 Broncos 4 Cowboys 4 Patriots 4 Bengals 3 Bucs 3 Chiefs 3 Raiders 3 Eagles 2 Titans 2 Colts 1 Packers 1 Ravens 1 Saints 1 Vikings 1 Poor Vikings fans... |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 9:00:31 PM EST
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Philadelphia should know better. The Steelers is the team of PA.
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Posted: 8/16/2022 9:26:03 PM EST
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Yeah that, but we probably shouldn't assume NFLers who play fantasy are good judges of ADP
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Posted: 8/16/2022 10:33:56 PM EST
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Yeah that, but we probably shouldn't assume NFLers who play fantasy are good judges of ADP Yeah...it means his league drafts way too fucking early. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 10:37:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who that area wants to win the Super Bowl: maybe. Who that area thinks will win the Super Bowl: no. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: BetOnline map of what team each state believes will win the Super Bowl this year, based on Twitter data https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FaTawJ8WYAIh-8y?format=jpg&name=small The Bills have 12 states. Rams 5 Broncos 4 Cowboys 4 Patriots 4 Bengals 3 Bucs 3 Chiefs 3 Raiders 3 Eagles 2 Titans 2 Colts 1 Packers 1 Ravens 1 Saints 1 Vikings 1 Who that area wants to win the Super Bowl: maybe. Who that area thinks will win the Super Bowl: no. Precisely. There's no way the Vikings, Saints, Patriots, Eagles, Titans, or Raiders fans are actually confident that this could be their team's year. Just... no. These are the actual Vegas groupings:  The teams in that top row should have legitimate expectations of making a deep playoff run. The teams in the second row have real potential to make noise. After that? Eh... |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 10:40:16 PM EST
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Raiders found out that Robinson was only decent because of Mahomes. That dude was KC's WR3 this time last year.
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