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Quoted: IMO that was Jimmy's greatest strength, evaluating talent and assembling a roster. In Dallas he had great coordinators running the Offense and Defense. He was also great at instilling discipline in the team. And remember he built the Dallas team before the salary cap. He was in Miami after the cap was in place. View Quote Don't get me wrong, Jimmy is a great coach, but a lot of his success in Dallas was due to the Walker trade. I think if he hadn't traded Walker, the cowboys don't win those superbowls and his Dallas tenure looks a lot like his Miami tenure. True on the salary cap. Dallas' genius GM has had issues since he got the salary cap he wanted so badly. Imo, shows he cares more about business than winning. |
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they should, otherwise every team will start doing it that way.
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Quoted: Don't get me wrong, Jimmy is a great coach, but a lot of his success in Dallas was due to the Walker trade. I think if he hadn't traded Walker, the cowboys don't win those superbowls and his Dallas tenure looks a lot like his Miami tenure. True on the salary cap. Dallas' genius GM has had issues since he got the salary cap he wanted so badly. Imo, shows he cares more about business than winning. View Quote The Dallas Cowboys are the most valuable sports team in the entire world, but Jerry Jones himself isn't that rich by NFL owner standards. There might have been some business aspects to Jerry pushing for the salary cap, but Jerry also knew if some of the other owners decided to really open up their checkbooks (and possibly even go after his own players) he wouldn't be able to keep up. |
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Quoted: 2022 Offensive Conversion Rates with 1-2 yards to go. Steelers are the only team to have 100% conversion rate on 4th down. https://i.imgur.com/RuyvopZ.jpg Bengals failed nearly 80% of their 4th down plays View Quote How could they be one of the best on 3rd down and the worst on 4th down? |
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lol |
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Quoted: Looked like a fun celebration
View Quote Damn, he is toasted. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Looked like a fun celebration
Damn, he is toasted. lol they interviewed the guy with the trophy on the radio this morning. He’s a bar owner from Buffalo and that’s his replica Lombardi trophy. |
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This is a good take:
That comp 3rd is more than paid for. Toney is on house money now. The sky is the limit if the training staff can keep him healthy, but even if he doesn't he was worth it. |
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Quoted: Looked like a fun celebration
View Quote 2023: Mahomes drunkenly hands a fan the Lombardi 2023: Stafford watches a woman fall off the stage and just walks away 2021: Tom Kobe's the Lombardi between boats 2020: Chiefs parade interrupted by a police chase as car drives through a barricade 2019: Gronk dents the Lombardi hitting a pitch from Edelman |
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Why on Earth would Bienemy take a coordinator job in Washington?
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How lame. Hey this team is too successful at QB sneak on 4th down. We have to change the rules!! |
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lol View Quote $5M pay cut $8.5M of salary and roster bonus converted to pure signing bonus $1.58M base salary Frees up $11.8M in cap space, makes it a $8.2M hit this year and raises his dead cap to $19.7M. Edit: Will put him at $31M true money (cash not cap) for 2021-2023. Just over $10MPY. |
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Bucs reportedly intend to take the full $35.1M deadcap hit on Brady. No restructured dummy deal or post June release. Technically makes Tom a free agent next month.
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The Eagles do more than get a shove from the back, their offensive line is incredibly precise with their timing and positioning. It reminds me of the best rugby scrums. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Why on Earth would Bienemy take a coordinator job in Washington? This. Bieniemy is stuck between the best offensive HC in the league, possibly ever, and the best QB in the league. He is constantly hit with "what would you say you do here" type speculation. If he wants an opportunity to move up, he has to get away from Reid and Mahomes. |
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Quoted: This. Bieniemy is stuck between the best offensive HC in the league, possibly ever, and the best QB in the league. He is constantly hit with "what would you say you do here" type speculation. If he wants an opportunity to move up, he has to get away from Reid and Mahomes. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Why on Earth would Bienemy take a coordinator job in Washington? This. Bieniemy is stuck between the best offensive HC in the league, possibly ever, and the best QB in the league. He is constantly hit with "what would you say you do here" type speculation. If he wants an opportunity to move up, he has to get away from Reid and Mahomes. Washington has a worse QB and a worse HC. Why would he want to be an OC anywhere but KC? |
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Quoted: Quoted: Why on Earth would Bienemy take a coordinator job in Washington? Yup, there is a perception he is just a puppet in KC, nobody is considering him for a HC position anymore so he feels he needs to prove himself to become a HC. Of course it is likely that he will get mediocre QB play and this won’t help him. It is a big gamble. |
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Quoted: Washington has a worse QB and a worse HC. Why would he want to be an OC anywhere but KC? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Why on Earth would Bienemy take a coordinator job in Washington? This. Bieniemy is stuck between the best offensive HC in the league, possibly ever, and the best QB in the league. He is constantly hit with "what would you say you do here" type speculation. If he wants an opportunity to move up, he has to get away from Reid and Mahomes. Washington has a worse QB and a worse HC. Why would he want to be an OC anywhere but KC? Because he is stupid and has an inflated opinion of himself? |
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Quoted: Washington has a worse QB and a worse HC. Why would he want to be an OC anywhere but KC? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Why on Earth would Bienemy take a coordinator job in Washington? This. Bieniemy is stuck between the best offensive HC in the league, possibly ever, and the best QB in the league. He is constantly hit with "what would you say you do here" type speculation. If he wants an opportunity to move up, he has to get away from Reid and Mahomes. Washington has a worse QB and a worse HC. Why would he want to be an OC anywhere but KC? Quoted: Guarantee him play calling/control. |
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Quoted: Washington has a worse QB and a worse HC. Why would he want to be an OC anywhere but KC? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Why on Earth would Bienemy take a coordinator job in Washington? This. Bieniemy is stuck between the best offensive HC in the league, possibly ever, and the best QB in the league. He is constantly hit with "what would you say you do here" type speculation. If he wants an opportunity to move up, he has to get away from Reid and Mahomes. Washington has a worse QB and a worse HC. Why would he want to be an OC anywhere but KC? bc the new knock on him is that it's all Reid and mahomes carrying the offense. so no bieniemy has to prove he has 100% control of offensive play calling. skins are reportedly going with Howell as the guy, but who knows if they'll draft or sign someone else, or even trade for Rodgers or Jackson. but rivera will leave all the play calling to bieniemy so it's the new step in his desire to be a head coach. |
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Not a single offensive coordinator who had a very high level coach and quarterback has made it as a head coach in recent history. Adam Gase (OC for Peyton), Josh McDaniels (OC for Brady), Nathaniel Hackett (OC for Rodgers)...
Bieniemy sits behind Reid and Mahomes. What has he SHOWN/PROVEN that will make him different than the guys above? The guys above at least CALLED the plays on offense for those quarterbacks. Bieniemy doesn't even do that in KC. If he wants a legit head coach offer, he's going to have to bump his resume and the easiest way to do that is to take over the play calling duties somewhere and show some results. Reportedly both the Ravens and Commanders were talking to him with that in mind. |
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Quoted: Not a single offensive coordinator who had a very high level coach and quarterback has made it as a head coach in recent history. Adam Gase (OC for Peyton), Josh McDaniels (OC for Brady), Nathaniel Hackett (OC for Rodgers)... Bieniemy sits behind Reid and Mahomes. What has he SHOWN/PROVEN that will make him different than the guys above? The guys above at least CALLED the plays on offense for those quarterbacks. Bieniemy doesn't even do that in KC. If he wants a legit head coach offer, he's going to have to bump his resume and the easiest way to do that is to take over the play calling duties somewhere and show some results. Reportedly both the Ravens and Commanders were talking to him with that in mind. View Quote and it worked for mcveigh, Lafleur and shanny. even if none of those guys had great play off success in DC, we could argue they are all effective head coaches. |
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Good timing, via SB Nation: Why would Bieniemy leave the Chiefs for the Commanders? TLDR, 5 reasons:
He's been told he needs to "prove himself" more. KC has the best quarterback in the NFL and an offensive master mind head coach. Washington has none of those things. It's a chance for him to run the show. Bieniemy is believed to be riding Reid's coattails. In Washington he would have full control of the offense. Washington is a new challenge. It's not fun winning in Madden over and over again on rookie difficulty. That's essentially what you've got in KC. Flipping over to the NFC means he won't be in Reid/Mahomes way either (vs Baltimore). Rivera is a great coach to work under. Routinely known as a coach who goes to bat for his assistants, there's no risk Rivera would try and throw Bieniemy under the bus if things go wrong like other coaches have a tendency to do. Sean McDermott, Rob Chudzinski and Steve Wilks all got jobs after working with Rivera. It's a chance to develop his own quarterback. Trying to coach up Sam Howell, a quarterback who is extremely unproven but shown flashes, would be an incredible addition to Bieniemy's resume. Any success at the position would be Bieniemy's alone, and make him a king in Washington. |
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Quoted: Not a single offensive coordinator who had a very high level coach and quarterback has made it as a head coach in recent history. Adam Gase (OC for Peyton), Josh McDaniels (OC for Brady), Nathaniel Hackett (OC for Rodgers)... Bieniemy sits behind Reid and Mahomes. What has he SHOWN/PROVEN that will make him different than the guys above? The guys above at least CALLED the plays on offense for those quarterbacks. Bieniemy doesn't even do that in KC. If he wants a legit head coach offer, he's going to have to bump his resume and the easiest way to do that is to take over the play calling duties somewhere and show some results. Reportedly both the Ravens and Commanders were talking to him with that in mind. View Quote Nobody else has been held to the same standard. Gase and McDaniels both got TWO head coach jobs. Shanahan got one after 28-3. Every young coach that had coffee with McVay got a job. Kingsbury had a losing record with Mahomes in college, and he got a job. Philly's OC and DC both just got HC jobs immediately after losing the SB. Some of these hires were poverty franchises doing poverty franchise things, but Bieniemy leaving one of the very best franchises in the NFL for one of the very worst franchises in the NFL for a lateral career move is something I don't think I've ever seen or heard of. |
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Quoted: Nobody else has been held to the same standard. View Quote Gase and McDaniels both had great coaches above them and great quarterbacks (like Bieniemy) but they both controlled and ran the offense (unlike Bieniemy). Both of them were under DEFENSIVE head coaches (unlike Bieniemy). Shanahan took over one of the worst offenses in the league (Texans, 30th and 28th) and elevated them to top 10 with Schaub at QB. Then Washington (22nd the year before) up to 4th with RG Knee. Took the Falcons to 1st in the league and MVP/SB with Ryan. Doing so under defensive minded coaches where he could run the offense himself. Kingsbury may have had a marginal record with Texas Tech, but he was still a 6 year head coach who brought up talent like Mahomes. Which opened the door for him before he flopped out. They all have done something Bieniemy has not... Run their own offenses. Been in charge. |
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Carr meeting with the Jets this weekend.
Second team visit after the Saints. |
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Quoted: Carr meeting with the Jets this weekend. Second team visit after the Saints. View Quote Came here to post this.
I still say he should go to the NFC South. |
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Quoted: If the money is right, it's a good decision. Frankly with any of the four teams too. A decent quarterback could do a lot of damage in that division with any of the teams. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I still say he should go to the NFC South. whatever keeps him away from Washington. I know he'd be an automatic upgrade there, but I don't think bringing in Carr will ultimately help the franchise. I say see what you got in Howell and keep drafting QBs until one hits. |
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Quoted: Came here to post this.
I still say he should go to the NFC South. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Carr meeting with the Jets this weekend. Second team visit after the Saints. Came here to post this.
I still say he should go to the NFC South. Packers sitting on Rodgers while he is immersed in darkness will cost them. The Packers last game was 1/1. Rodgers hasn't figured out what he wants to do in the 47 days following the end of the season? The time to deal is now, with or without his concurrence. |
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Quoted: Packers sitting on Rodgers while he is immersed in darkness will cost them. The Packers last game was 1/1. Rodgers hasn't figured out what he wants to do in the 47 days following the end of the season? The time to deal is now, with or without his concurrence. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Carr meeting with the Jets this weekend. Second team visit after the Saints. Came here to post this.
I still say he should go to the NFC South. Packers sitting on Rodgers while he is immersed in darkness will cost them. The Packers last game was 1/1. Rodgers hasn't figured out what he wants to do in the 47 days following the end of the season? The time to deal is now, with or without his concurrence. does he have a no trade? iirc he does not. |
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Quoted: Packers sitting on Rodgers while he is immersed in darkness will cost them. The Packers last game was 1/1. Rodgers hasn't figured out what he wants to do in the 47 days following the end of the season? The time to deal is now, with or without his concurrence. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Carr meeting with the Jets this weekend. Second team visit after the Saints. Came here to post this.
I still say he should go to the NFC South. Packers sitting on Rodgers while he is immersed in darkness will cost them. The Packers last game was 1/1. Rodgers hasn't figured out what he wants to do in the 47 days following the end of the season? The time to deal is now, with or without his concurrence. And willingly give away the spotlight? |
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Quoted: does he have a no trade? iirc he does not. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Carr meeting with the Jets this weekend. Second team visit after the Saints. Came here to post this.
I still say he should go to the NFC South. Packers sitting on Rodgers while he is immersed in darkness will cost them. The Packers last game was 1/1. Rodgers hasn't figured out what he wants to do in the 47 days following the end of the season? The time to deal is now, with or without his concurrence. does he have a no trade? iirc he does not. He doesn’t which is bizarre for a QB in his situation. Him not having one for his previous contract was weird enough, but then he didn’t get one for the one he signed last offseason either. Off the top of my head I can think of just two realistic possibilities: 1. He is very greedy and willing to sacrifice the power of having a no-trade clause to make a relatively small amount of extra money. 2. He figures if he gets traded to a situation he doesn’t like he’ll just retire or at least threaten to retire. |
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Quoted: does he have a no trade? iirc he does not. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Carr meeting with the Jets this weekend. Second team visit after the Saints. Came here to post this.
I still say he should go to the NFC South. Packers sitting on Rodgers while he is immersed in darkness will cost them. The Packers last game was 1/1. Rodgers hasn't figured out what he wants to do in the 47 days following the end of the season? The time to deal is now, with or without his concurrence. does he have a no trade? iirc he does not. Maybe he will come out of his darkness retreat to find he has been traded. When does he start? |
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Quoted: If the money is right, it's a good decision. Frankly with any of the four teams too. A decent quarterback could do a lot of damage in that division with any of the teams. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I still say he should go to the NFC South. There's a lot to like. Weak division. Potentially interesting teams. Warm climate. Few likely cold playoff destinations. |
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View Quote accurate... but I'm also excited as it's looking more and more like bieniemy will be the guy. skins have a lot of offensive weapons, good receivers and good backs. hopefully the o line improves. don't get me started on the QB, but it's hard to imagine it getting worse than last season. (laughs in jets qb situation). |
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Quoted: Yup, there is a perception he is just a puppet in KC, nobody is considering him for a HC position anymore so he feels he needs to prove himself to become a HC. Of course it is likely that he will get mediocre QB play and this won’t help him. It is a big gamble. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Why on Earth would Bienemy take a coordinator job in Washington? Yup, there is a perception he is just a puppet in KC, nobody is considering him for a HC position anymore so he feels he needs to prove himself to become a HC. Of course it is likely that he will get mediocre QB play and this won’t help him. It is a big gamble. That is a bold move with a team like Washington. I don't see much good coming from it career wise if it backfires. |
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Quoted: That is a bold move with a team like Washington. I don't see much good coming from it career wise if it backfires. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Why on Earth would Bienemy take a coordinator job in Washington? Yup, there is a perception he is just a puppet in KC, nobody is considering him for a HC position anymore so he feels he needs to prove himself to become a HC. Of course it is likely that he will get mediocre QB play and this won’t help him. It is a big gamble. That is a bold move with a team like Washington. I don't see much good coming from it career wise if it backfires. It's not like he has an abundance of options. There were rumors connecting him to the OC jobs for the Ravens and Titans, but those filled during the playoffs. Other than the WTF, I think the other open OC options are Tampa, Indy, Denver, and Arizona, and I'm not sure how many of those view EB as a candidate. |
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Quoted: I saw an ESPN clip where some guy said the Eagles should offer Hurts a 6 year/$300M type deal. He didn’t say how much in guarantees, but if it’s around 2/3… https://media.tenor.com/e_mOFUxgbrgAAAAC/breaking-bad-gus-fring.gif View Quote Giving their QB a huge contract after one good season worked out for them last time so why not? |
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Quoted: That is a bold move with a team like Washington. I don't see much good coming from it career wise if it backfires. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Why on Earth would Bienemy take a coordinator job in Washington? Yup, there is a perception he is just a puppet in KC, nobody is considering him for a HC position anymore so he feels he needs to prove himself to become a HC. Of course it is likely that he will get mediocre QB play and this won’t help him. It is a big gamble. That is a bold move with a team like Washington. I don't see much good coming from it career wise if it backfires. I personally think it is a mistake but he probably doesn’t lack in confidence. If his priority is a HC position it may be his best move, but I don’t think it will work. Staying in KC isn’t getting him closer though. |
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Quoted: I saw an ESPN clip where some guy said the Eagles should offer Hurts a 6 year/$300M type deal. He didn't say how much in guarantees, but if it's around 2/3 https://media.tenor.com/e_mOFUxgbrgAAAAC/breaking-bad-gus-fring.gif View Quote Murray: 82.2% total guaranteed Allen: 58% Wilson: 66% Stafford: 81% Prescott: 79% The guarantees at SIGNING seem to be coming in around 40-50%. But effectively the number jumps each year the way they are all structuring in the rolling guarantees/roster bonuses/etc. We talked about that the other week with Murray and how Spotrac doesn't show the current pain they are actually in with that deal. We're going to see a whole wave this off season though. With Herbert, Burrow, Lamar, etc. Lots of quarterback money to watch this year. |
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Quoted: He doesn’t which is bizarre for a QB in his situation. Him not having one for his previous contract was weird enough, but then he didn’t get one for the one he signed last offseason either. Off the top of my head I can think of just two realistic possibilities: 1. He is very greedy and willing to sacrifice the power of having a no-trade clause to make a relatively small amount of extra money. 2. He figures if he gets traded to a situation he doesn’t like he’ll just retire or at least threaten to retire. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Carr meeting with the Jets this weekend. Second team visit after the Saints. Came here to post this.
I still say he should go to the NFC South. Packers sitting on Rodgers while he is immersed in darkness will cost them. The Packers last game was 1/1. Rodgers hasn't figured out what he wants to do in the 47 days following the end of the season? The time to deal is now, with or without his concurrence. does he have a no trade? iirc he does not. He doesn’t which is bizarre for a QB in his situation. Him not having one for his previous contract was weird enough, but then he didn’t get one for the one he signed last offseason either. Off the top of my head I can think of just two realistic possibilities: 1. He is very greedy and willing to sacrifice the power of having a no-trade clause to make a relatively small amount of extra money. 2. He figures if he gets traded to a situation he doesn’t like he’ll just retire or at least threaten to retire. #2 is my thought |
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Quoted: Franchise quarterback contracts TOTAL guarantees don't come in under 50% anymore. None of them. Recent contracts: Murray: 82.2% total guaranteed Allen: 58% Wilson: 66% Stafford: 81% Prescott: 79% The guarantees at SIGNING seem to be coming in around 40-50%. But effectively the number jumps each year the way they are all structuring in the rolling guarantees/roster bonuses/etc. We talked about that the other week with Murray and how Spotrac doesn't show the current pain they are actually in with that deal. We're going to see a whole wave this off season though. With Herbert, Burrow, Lamar, etc. Lots of quarterback money to watch this year. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I saw an ESPN clip where some guy said the Eagles should offer Hurts a 6 year/$300M type deal. He didn't say how much in guarantees, but if it's around 2/3 https://media.tenor.com/e_mOFUxgbrgAAAAC/breaking-bad-gus-fring.gif Murray: 82.2% total guaranteed Allen: 58% Wilson: 66% Stafford: 81% Prescott: 79% The guarantees at SIGNING seem to be coming in around 40-50%. But effectively the number jumps each year the way they are all structuring in the rolling guarantees/roster bonuses/etc. We talked about that the other week with Murray and how Spotrac doesn't show the current pain they are actually in with that deal. We're going to see a whole wave this off season though. With Herbert, Burrow, Lamar, etc. Lots of quarterback money to watch this year. I'd like to see Herbert, Burrow, or both get $55M+ APY deals this year... |
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I don't follow college ball much, so I don't really get into the draft conversation until after the playoffs.
There are only four QBs projected to go in the first round this year. Of those, the consensus top pick is this guy:
CJ Stroud and Will Levis are both looking like top-5 picks with Stroud having been there the whole time and Levis trending up there through the season. Interestingly, I haven't seen these two discussed as much nationally as I have Bryce Young or the consensus #4 guy, Anthony Richardson. The boom or bust factor on Richardson is off the charts. Nobody gives him a shot at being average. He's either going to be awesome or awful. I'm just getting into this stuff, but this seems like a really good year to not need a new franchise QB. |
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