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Posted: 2/24/2023 11:05:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The stats support your opinion. ESPN has him at TE #10 by yardage, and he's #65 of all WR/TEs. The RTM project puts him at TE #15 with an overall score of 45. He has an open score of 64 (pretty good), a catch score of 38 (crap), and a YAC score of 32 (also crap). For context, Kittle and Kelce both have overall scores in the 70s, and Andrews, Goedert, Njoku, and a guy named Jordan Akins have scores in the 60s. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Here you go, HK:
That's certainly encouraging. Still though, even if that wasn't the case I still wouldn't want to sign Dalton Schultz. I'd much rather have a serviceable TE making peanuts hungry for a new contract than have an above average-good TE you just made one of the three highest paid TEs in the NFL. Sure, but I think there are two big caveats here: 1) Depending upon which numbers you look at (guarantees vs fluff etc), most of the good TEs aren't very far apart in pay. If you cut the fluff, most are within $3M or so. 2) TEs are a LOT cheaper than WRs now. With last year's WR market, this years FA class, and this year's draft class, I think some teams are going to be looking at TE as an opportunity to save money vs paying for a guy like Woods or Agholor. I could be mis-reading this, but we'll see. Personally I've just never been a big Dalton Schultz fan. I don't dislike him, but I do think he's overrated. I suspect people having an inflated opinion of him is mostly due to him having a big game every once in a while which seem to usually come in nationally televised games. The stats support your opinion. ESPN has him at TE #10 by yardage, and he's #65 of all WR/TEs. The RTM project puts him at TE #15 with an overall score of 45. He has an open score of 64 (pretty good), a catch score of 38 (crap), and a YAC score of 32 (also crap). For context, Kittle and Kelce both have overall scores in the 70s, and Andrews, Goedert, Njoku, and a guy named Jordan Akins have scores in the 60s. And yet Spotrac's estimates his contract will be 4 years/$60.6M (I didn't see the guaranteed amount) which would be #2 in the NFL for TEs in terms of total value. Some team will probably be dumb enough to give him that (or close to it). Hopefully it's not the Cowboys. |
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Posted: 2/25/2023 12:19:15 AM EDT
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I don’t envision anyone trading for Ramsey and taking on that contract but crazier things have happened. |
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Posted: 2/25/2023 1:31:31 AM EDT
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I don’t envision anyone trading for Ramsey and taking on that contract but crazier things have happened. An above average (ish) CB that’s on a downward career trajectory, is scheduled to make $17M next season, and acts like a diva? I wouldn’t want that contract for free. |
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Posted: 2/25/2023 1:32:47 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/25/2023 9:51:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Apparently AJ Brown thinks the moon landing was fake. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/258158/8D8FD965-14BC-4661-AB86-C0FBD24BD6BF_jpe-2724414.JPG Well, the longer I'm alive the more I think "Those shady fuckers? Maybe they did fake it..." So... 
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Posted: 2/25/2023 10:01:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Personally I've just never been a big Dalton Schultz fan. I don't dislike him, but I do think he's overrated. I suspect people having an inflated opinion of him is mostly due to him having a big game every once in a while which seem to usually come in nationally televised games. I liked the parts when Dak would hit him on the hands with the ball, and he would bat it straight up into the air. Then it would be intercepted. 
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Posted: 2/25/2023 10:03:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Apparently AJ Brown thinks the moon landing was fake. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/258158/8D8FD965-14BC-4661-AB86-C0FBD24BD6BF_jpe-2724414.JPG Stanley Kubrick filmed the moon landing. He is such a stickler for accuracy that he insisted upon filming it on location. |
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Posted: 2/25/2023 11:44:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He likes that because Rachel likes Miami..... But he do what he gotta do Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:
He likes that because Rachel likes Miami..... But he do what he gotta do I want Po in Buffalo, but if Rachel says to move, I wouldnt hold it against him 
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Posted: 2/25/2023 12:00:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I want Po in Buffalo, but if Rachel says to move, I wouldnt hold it against him Yep |
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Posted: 2/25/2023 12:08:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, the longer I'm alive the more I think "Those shady fuckers? Maybe they did fake it..." So... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Apparently AJ Brown thinks the moon landing was fake. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/258158/8D8FD965-14BC-4661-AB86-C0FBD24BD6BF_jpe-2724414.JPG Well, the longer I'm alive the more I think "Those shady fuckers? Maybe they did fake it..." So... To think the moon landing being fake is within the realm of possibility is one thing. To claim it is fake with absolute certainty is another.
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Posted: 2/25/2023 12:38:22 PM EDT
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I don't envision anyone trading for Ramsey and taking on that contract but crazier things have happened. |
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Posted: 2/25/2023 2:52:03 PM EDT
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I know it's not the NFL, but I watched the XFL Battlehawks & Sea Dragons game recap and it looked good. Better than the USFL games I tried to watch last year. Plenty of familiar players as well.
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Posted: 2/25/2023 5:55:07 PM EDT
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For some reason the GOAT talk about Romo’s broadcasting career has quieted down lately.
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Posted: 2/25/2023 6:14:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For some reason the GOAT talk about Romo’s broadcasting career has quieted down lately. He took his foot off the gas. GOATs don't do that. |
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Posted: 2/25/2023 6:21:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For some reason the GOAT talk about Romo’s broadcasting career has quieted down lately. Lately? He was rough most of the season. I'm pretty sure he quit watching football film and went to the Joe Buck School of Gargling Star Athlete Balls. A lot of people think Greg Olsen was the best color commentator this season, and I don't disagree. Brady is taking his job in 2024. If Olsen repeats his performance in '23, he should probably change networks. |
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Posted: 2/25/2023 6:36:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lately? He was rough most of the season. I'm pretty sure he quit watching football film and went to the Joe Buck School of Gargling Star Athlete Balls. A lot of people think Greg Olsen was the best color commentator this season, and I don't disagree. Brady is taking his job in 2024. If Olsen repeats his performance in '23, he should probably change networks. That Brady/Fox contract is one of the most fascinating in the history of sports. A 10 year/$375M contract for something the person has never done before and no one knows if he'll even be average at it. Imagine if he sucks. I'm NOT saying Brady will be bad, but I will say that throughout their playing careers and watching how they interact with the media guys like Manning and Romo stood out to me as players that would probably make for good color commentators. Brady doesn't give off that vibe. At least not to me. |
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Posted: 2/25/2023 6:50:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That Brady/Fox contract is one of the most fascinating in the history of sports. A 10 year/$375M contract for something the person has never done before and no one knows if he'll even be average at it. Imagine if he sucks. I'm NOT saying Brady will be bad, but I will say that throughout their playing careers and watching how they interact with the media guys like Manning and Romo stood out to me as players that would probably make for good color commentators. Brady doesn't give off that vibe. At least not to me. I've watched Brady's entire career and I agree with you. |
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Posted: 2/25/2023 7:13:27 PM EDT
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Can't stand Romo! He is so boring and he never knows when to shut up! Terrible.
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Posted: 2/26/2023 1:34:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That Brady/Fox contract is one of the most fascinating in the history of sports. A 10 year/$375M contract for something the person has never done before and no one knows if he'll even be average at it. Imagine if he sucks. I'm NOT saying Brady will be bad, but I will say that throughout their playing careers and watching how they interact with the media guys like Manning and Romo stood out to me as players that would probably make for good color commentators. Brady doesn't give off that vibe. At least not to me. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Lately? He was rough most of the season. I'm pretty sure he quit watching football film and went to the Joe Buck School of Gargling Star Athlete Balls. A lot of people think Greg Olsen was the best color commentator this season, and I don't disagree. Brady is taking his job in 2024. If Olsen repeats his performance in '23, he should probably change networks. That Brady/Fox contract is one of the most fascinating in the history of sports. A 10 year/$375M contract for something the person has never done before and no one knows if he'll even be average at it. Imagine if he sucks. I'm NOT saying Brady will be bad, but I will say that throughout their playing careers and watching how they interact with the media guys like Manning and Romo stood out to me as players that would probably make for good color commentators. Brady doesn't give off that vibe. At least not to me. I'm in the Camp that Olsen is really good, and doesn't take away from the game. Brady's deal is something else. If he calls 20 games, that's 1.8M per game. To add color to a football game for 3 hours. Oh yeah, travel. Sounds miserable. 
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Posted: 2/26/2023 1:42:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can't stand Romo! He is so boring and he never knows when to shut up! Terrible. There seems to be a consensus that he's too busy enthusiastically gargling balls to let the game breathe for a second. |
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Posted: 2/26/2023 2:20:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There seems to be a consensus that he's too busy enthusiastically gargling balls to let the game breathe for a second. I don’t think Romo is even in the same ballpark as guys like Collinsworth and Buck in that department.
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Posted: 2/26/2023 3:49:55 AM EDT
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I can’t recall ever looking at ESPN.com or the ESPN app, seeing the “top headlines,” and being more disinterested than I was tonight.
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Posted: 2/26/2023 8:55:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I can’t recall ever looking at ESPN.com or the ESPN app, seeing the “top headlines,” and being more disinterested than I was tonight. I miss football. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/258158/7AC01D56-5D19-43D8-B9A7-A94181E0014D_jpe-2725839.JPG You are not wrong...
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Posted: 2/26/2023 9:46:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can't stand Romo! He is so boring and he never knows when to shut up! Terrible. 8-8 |
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Posted: 2/26/2023 4:15:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/26/2023 5:47:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don’t think Romo is even in the same ballpark as guys like Collinsworth and Buck in that department.
Romo literally called Allen's pass overthrown 10 yards and out of bounds but a great pass.  It was mocked heavily here, albeit 50 pages back.
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Posted: 2/26/2023 5:51:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I can’t recall ever looking at ESPN.com or the ESPN app, seeing the “top headlines,” and being more disinterested than I was tonight. I miss football. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/258158/7AC01D56-5D19-43D8-B9A7-A94181E0014D_jpe-2725839.JPG Way to run away from the Dynamo getting beat by FC Cincy. 
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Posted: 2/26/2023 5:57:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Romo literally called Allen's pass overthrown 10 yards and out of bounds but a great pass. It was mocked heavily here, albeit 50 pages back. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I don’t think Romo is even in the same ballpark as guys like Collinsworth and Buck in that department.
Romo literally called Allen's pass overthrown 10 yards and out of bounds but a great pass. It was mocked heavily here, albeit 50 pages back. And in that same game did Romo trash the opposing QB’s 60+ yard dime that was dropped by claiming the ball was overthrown? No? Then he’s still not as bad as Collinsworth.
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Posted: 2/26/2023 8:20:45 PM EDT
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Anyone watching the Renegades and Roughnecks game?
I feel like a heroin addict at a methadone clinic |
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Posted: 2/26/2023 8:25:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone watching the Renegades and Roughnecks game? I feel like a heroin addict at a methadone clinic I put it on a few minutes ago because it was too quiet in the house 
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Posted: 2/26/2023 8:31:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone watching the Renegades and Roughnecks game? I feel like a heroin addict at a methadone clinic i am now ! thanks for reminder 
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Posted: 2/26/2023 8:35:59 PM EDT
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Wade Phillips doesn’t know the meaning of the word “retirement”.
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Posted: 2/26/2023 8:36:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I put it on a few minutes ago because it was too quiet in the house Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Anyone watching the Renegades and Roughnecks game? I feel like a heroin addict at a methadone clinic I put it on a few minutes ago because it was too quiet in the house I did the same. |
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Posted: 2/26/2023 8:47:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone watching the Renegades and Roughnecks game? I feel like a heroin addict at a methadone clinic Reminds me of that South Park episode where there is no internet anywhere so instead being able to watch porn Randy is reduced to fapping using a paid service that is just some guy quickly drawing crude sketches of whatever "porn" Randy wants to watch.
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Posted: 2/26/2023 8:49:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 2022 Offensive Conversion Rates with 1-2 yards to go. Steelers are the only team to have 100% conversion rate on 4th down. https://i.imgur.com/RuyvopZ.jpg Bengals failed nearly 80% of their 4th down plays Dallas’s 3rd down conversion rate was insane this season. |
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Posted: 2/26/2023 8:52:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How lame. Hey this team is too successful at QB sneak on 4th down. We have to change the rules!! Quote HistoryQuoted: How lame. Hey this team is too successful at QB sneak on 4th down. We have to change the rules!! As a Dallas fan… Firsttime.jpeg |
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Posted: 2/26/2023 8:55:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nobody else has been held to the same standard. Gase and McDaniels both got TWO head coach jobs. Shanahan got one after 28-3. Every young coach that had coffee with McVay got a job. Kingsbury had a losing record with Mahomes in college, and he got a job. Philly's OC and DC both just got HC jobs immediately after losing the SB. Some of these hires were poverty franchises doing poverty franchise things, but Bieniemy leaving one of the very best franchises in the NFL for one of the very worst franchises in the NFL for a lateral career move is something I don't think I've ever seen or heard of. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Not a single offensive coordinator who had a very high level coach and quarterback has made it as a head coach in recent history. Adam Gase (OC for Peyton), Josh McDaniels (OC for Brady), Nathaniel Hackett (OC for Rodgers)... Bieniemy sits behind Reid and Mahomes. What has he SHOWN/PROVEN that will make him different than the guys above? The guys above at least CALLED the plays on offense for those quarterbacks. Bieniemy doesn't even do that in KC. If he wants a legit head coach offer, he's going to have to bump his resume and the easiest way to do that is to take over the play calling duties somewhere and show some results. Reportedly both the Ravens and Commanders were talking to him with that in mind. Nobody else has been held to the same standard. Gase and McDaniels both got TWO head coach jobs. Shanahan got one after 28-3. Every young coach that had coffee with McVay got a job. Kingsbury had a losing record with Mahomes in college, and he got a job. Philly's OC and DC both just got HC jobs immediately after losing the SB. Some of these hires were poverty franchises doing poverty franchise things, but Bieniemy leaving one of the very best franchises in the NFL for one of the very worst franchises in the NFL for a lateral career move is something I don't think I've ever seen or heard of. A little bit of Bieniemy’s issue with getting new jobs is his past criminal record (or however you’d like to word it). |
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Posted: 2/26/2023 9:19:04 PM EDT
[#38]
 Chargers and Raiders. Perfection. 
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Posted: 2/26/2023 10:07:10 PM EDT
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Vid at link:
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Posted: 2/26/2023 10:42:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s amazing how many people (including some “experts”) act like there is no salary cap in the NFL and when a big name player doesn’t get the record breaking new contract he is demanding it’s simply a result of the owner being cheap. Or racist |
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Posted: 2/26/2023 11:14:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I did the same. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Anyone watching the Renegades and Roughnecks game? I feel like a heroin addict at a methadone clinic I put it on a few minutes ago because it was too quiet in the house I did the same. I was entertained . Although i have lived local (50 miles) to Houston all my life , my HS team was the Roughnecks , and I remember the Luvyablue era with the Oilers, Bum Phillips and Earl Campbell with fondness .
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Posted: 2/27/2023 12:20:25 PM EDT
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@HK
Via SportsNaut: NFL owners 'concerned' Washington Commanders sale process really a sham TLDR: They think Snyder hates Bezos due to the WaPo stories about Snyder and he wants to either block Bezos from buying the team or milk him for way more than market value and in the end will end up not selling. Click To View Spoiler |
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Posted: 2/27/2023 12:24:46 PM EDT
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Of course it's for fucking sale, and they're going to get a LOT for it. |
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Posted: 2/27/2023 12:49:44 PM EDT
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Of course it's for fucking sale, and they're going to get a LOT for it. I haven't kept up on the current QB draft class. Are there any good ones, as in sure thing or highly likely QB's in this class? |
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Posted: 2/27/2023 12:50:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I haven't kept up on the current QB draft class. Are there any good ones, as in sure thing or highly likely QB's in this class? Bryce Young and CJ Stroud seem to be good choices. |
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Posted: 2/27/2023 1:01:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bryce Young and CJ Stroud seem to be good choices. I think the most likely result will be the Texans trading up from #2 to #1 to take Young, and they will pay for it in order to ensure someone like the Colts (#4) don't jump up above them and take him. Then the Bears at #2 will take the top PROSPECT which is Anderson from Bama, they can sure use him. That then opens up the Cardinals at #3 to potentially trade down for some good value for any team that wants to jump ahead of the Colts (again at #4) to snag Stroud. Edit: There are also still Richardson and Levis who will likely be 1st rounders. High potential 4 QBs in the 1st round this year. |
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Posted: 2/27/2023 1:23:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Vid at link:
Driving that train... |
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Posted: 2/27/2023 1:45:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Both will certainly go in the top 5 and unless something extreme occurs in the next few weeks then it is highly likely Bryce Young will be the 1st overall pick. I think the most likely result will be the Texans trading up from #2 to #1 to take Young, and they will pay for it in order to ensure someone like the Colts (#4) don't jump up above them and take him. Then the Bears at #2 will take the top PROSPECT which is Anderson from Bama, they can sure use him. That then opens up the Cardinals at #3 to potentially trade down for some good value for any team that wants to jump ahead of the Colts (again at #4) to snag Stroud. Edit: There are also still Richardson and Levis who will likely be 1st rounders. High potential 4 QBs in the 1st round this year. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Bryce Young and CJ Stroud seem to be good choices. I think the most likely result will be the Texans trading up from #2 to #1 to take Young, and they will pay for it in order to ensure someone like the Colts (#4) don't jump up above them and take him. Then the Bears at #2 will take the top PROSPECT which is Anderson from Bama, they can sure use him. That then opens up the Cardinals at #3 to potentially trade down for some good value for any team that wants to jump ahead of the Colts (again at #4) to snag Stroud. Edit: There are also still Richardson and Levis who will likely be 1st rounders. High potential 4 QBs in the 1st round this year. If I were the Bears, I wouldn't necessarily want to move back 1 spot. I mean they could trade it again, but I'd be looking for volume, not necessarily the highest picks. They already have a QB who has potential but they need the skill guys on both sides of the ball. If I were the Texans, I wouldn't give up a ton of draft capital for a QB when you already have Mills who is "good enough" for them right now. They need to put a real team around a QB first. Teams like the Colts, Panthers, etc. should be considering going for the #1 pick because they're much closer to being "A QB away." |
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Posted: 2/27/2023 2:09:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Or racist Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It’s amazing how many people (including some “experts”) act like there is no salary cap in the NFL and when a big name player doesn’t get the record breaking new contract he is demanding it’s simply a result of the owner being cheap. Or racist During the beginning of Covid19, with lots of time on my hands due to being laid off work, I spent way more time than I should have, on Facebook, arguing with people on Dallas Cowboys fan pages. Remember at the time, Dak was trying for his big second contract, and that season he played on the tag until he broke his leg. Anyway, pretty much every black dude said Jerry was racist, and that's why he wouldn't pay Dak. I tried to argue the point that he overpaid Zeke for 2 great seasons, and he was black. I think Jerry Jones has a lot of faults, but being a racist isn't one of them. In fact, I suspect there isn't a racist owner in the NFL. |
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Posted: 2/27/2023 2:54:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I were the Bears, I wouldn't necessarily want to move back 1 spot. I mean they could trade it again, but I'd be looking for volume, not necessarily the highest picks. They already have a QB who has potential but they need the skill guys on both sides of the ball. If I were the Texans, I wouldn't give up a ton of draft capital for a QB when you already have Mills who is "good enough" for them right now. They need to put a real team around a QB first. Teams like the Colts, Panthers, etc. should be considering going for the #1 pick because they're much closer to being "A QB away." Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Bryce Young and CJ Stroud seem to be good choices. I think the most likely result will be the Texans trading up from #2 to #1 to take Young, and they will pay for it in order to ensure someone like the Colts (#4) don't jump up above them and take him. Then the Bears at #2 will take the top PROSPECT which is Anderson from Bama, they can sure use him. That then opens up the Cardinals at #3 to potentially trade down for some good value for any team that wants to jump ahead of the Colts (again at #4) to snag Stroud. Edit: There are also still Richardson and Levis who will likely be 1st rounders. High potential 4 QBs in the 1st round this year. If I were the Bears, I wouldn't necessarily want to move back 1 spot. I mean they could trade it again, but I'd be looking for volume, not necessarily the highest picks. They already have a QB who has potential but they need the skill guys on both sides of the ball. If I were the Texans, I wouldn't give up a ton of draft capital for a QB when you already have Mills who is "good enough" for them right now. They need to put a real team around a QB first. Teams like the Colts, Panthers, etc. should be considering going for the #1 pick because they're much closer to being "A QB away." Ultimately, no amount of draft capital matters unless you can identify good prospects. |
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