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Posted: 6/9/2022 3:46:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well I tried.  I was hoping for a full page of football talk instead of another post about the stupid fuckstick.  This is the deadest part of the offseason and Watson is the biggest story in sports right now |
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Posted: 6/9/2022 3:48:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just curious as to what makes Rodgers a hof quarterback? He has played his career in the weakest division in football, pretty much 5-6 guaranteed wins per year, and his playoff record isn't all that good. I guess if one superbowl win is qualification enough, then so be it. Lol. Imma just quote this one for posterity. |
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Posted: 6/9/2022 3:49:02 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Marino's sophomore season may have been the greatest quarterback season in NFL history. Which you're correct in it being a cherry on top of the resume, but it alone would not have carried him to the HOF. Still needed that general body of work. Rodgers has the general body of work, along with a ring. Even if he doesn't have a single season or moment that will be remembered forever, the ring counts as his cherry in this discussion. It is the equivalent to Marino's 84 season. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: This is true, but the players can only play the teams they face on the schedule. Nothing they can do about that. No shortage of players in the Hall of Fame right now who made their careers feasting on shitty opponents. Agreed. If you look at the playoffs where it is one and done, and his 4th quarter come from behind record, it is a different story. He seems to be well liked, and does enough Joe Willy antics for the popularity aspect, and that helps a lot. Dan was a unquestionable first ballot Hall of Fame selection. Rodgers will be the same when he is done. Edit: Just furthering my "modern day Dan Marino" comment. Marino was 8-10 in the post season. If you remove Rodgers 1 Super Bowl season, he drops to 7-10 in the post season. Marino had three 1 and dones and six 1-1 post seasons. Rodgers has had four 1 and dones and five 1-1 post seasons. Maybe, but Rodgers doesn't have that one defining moment, season, meaningful stat etc. where even to a non-fan it's obvious it is extremely unlikely anyone will EVER top it. Marino does. Rodgers has the general body of work, along with a ring. Even if he doesn't have a single season or moment that will be remembered forever, the ring counts as his cherry in this discussion. It is the equivalent to Marino's 84 season. Oh, no doubt if Marino fell off a cliff after 1984 he wouldn't be in the HoF. I'm just saying Marino has that career defining moment, season, meaningful stat that even non-Marino fans know won't ever be topped and Rodgers doesn't. Quoted: And just to dig deeper, to see how Rodgers' MVP seasons stood out:
MVP voting is a funny thing. For example: Tony Romo has more MVP votes in his career than Russell Wilson. |
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Posted: 6/9/2022 3:53:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When you get to play against the 3 shittiest teams in the nfc twice a year, you will get great qb numbers. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Career win record. Career yardage. Career touchdowns. Career interception/touchdown ratio. Career passer rating numbers. Career playoff appearances. Career pro bowl nominations. Career all pro selections. Career MVP selections. Super Bowl Champion. Super Bowl MVP. Single season passer rating record holder. Single season interception percentage record holder. Career interception percentage record holder. Career interception/touchdown ratio record holder. Most consecutive passes without an interception record holder. Most seasons with 35+, 40+ and 45+ touchdown passes record holder (tied). Most seasons with a passer rating over 100.0 record holder. Quickest quarterback to 30,000 passing yards (by attempts). Fewest games to both 300 and 400 passing touchdowns record holder. Most consecutive games with a passer rating over 100 and 110 record holder. I don't like Rodgers much, but he has a body of work that ensures he is absolutely a Hall of Fame selection, beyond many current and projected Hall of Famers. When you get to play against the 3 shittiest teams in the nfc twice a year, you will get great qb numbers. Tom Brady has entered the chat. |
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Posted: 6/9/2022 3:54:13 PM EST
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Davante had a press window today.
"I'm the type of person who doesn't like to stop and smell the roses for personal accomplishmentsbut when I slapped that jersey on the other day it really hit me." "It put a smile on my face, the respect that I got when I walked into the building from the players... the way they've embraced me." "This offense has a ton of potential... but the potential is nothing until we go out there and put it together. We have a lot of guys that can go and make plays.. but it's not going to happen because we're just standing out there, we have to go and make it happen." Says he has talked with Rodgers multiple times since leaving GB. "We talked throughout the whole process too, and he was aware of where I stood, and I was aware of where he stood." Said they had talks about Rodgers' future in GB and beyond GB and that weighed in on his decision as well. "Where I am in my career... I love Jordan Love, he's a great guy, but I got aspirations of doing really, really big things & being remembered & it wasn't the point in my career where I was willing to risk Aaron not being there after a year or two, so my decision was to be here and he respected that, he understood that." "It had a lot to do with where I wanted to raise my kids, ya know family, being closer to home... My grandparents have never seen me play... The suites are a lot more expensive here, but now I can pack the suite out with the family and kind of do that whole thing." |
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Posted: 6/9/2022 3:59:34 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Tom Brady has entered the chat. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Career win record. Career yardage. Career touchdowns. Career interception/touchdown ratio. Career passer rating numbers. Career playoff appearances. Career pro bowl nominations. Career all pro selections. Career MVP selections. Super Bowl Champion. Super Bowl MVP. Single season passer rating record holder. Single season interception percentage record holder. Career interception percentage record holder. Career interception/touchdown ratio record holder. Most consecutive passes without an interception record holder. Most seasons with 35+, 40+ and 45+ touchdown passes record holder (tied). Most seasons with a passer rating over 100.0 record holder. Quickest quarterback to 30,000 passing yards (by attempts). Fewest games to both 300 and 400 passing touchdowns record holder. Most consecutive games with a passer rating over 100 and 110 record holder. I don't like Rodgers much, but he has a body of work that ensures he is absolutely a Hall of Fame selection, beyond many current and projected Hall of Famers. When you get to play against the 3 shittiest teams in the nfc twice a year, you will get great qb numbers. Tom Brady has entered the chat.  Especially this year. Dear lord the NFC South looks abysmal. Getting the Cowboys, Packers, Chiefs, Rams and Bengals definitely boosts the strength of schedule for this year. Puts them at the 4th highest SOS in the NFL. If the Bucs didn't have to play some of those high quality opponents due to their 1st place divisional record last year, they would have had a cup cake schedule for sure. The Falcons and Panthers SOS are complete jokes this year. If you remove their two games vs the Buccaneers, it would drop their SOS all the way down to bottom 10 (easiest) in the NFL. Edit: ESPN Power Rankings: Saints 19th Falcons 23rd Panthers 25th NFC East is pretty bad as well: Commanders 20th Giants 24th Eagles 27th NFC North also losers: Vikings 18th Bears 22nd Lions 31st Those appear to be the only 3 divisions that have 3 teams ranked in the bottom half. |
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Posted: 6/9/2022 4:08:22 PM EST
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Via the New York Post: Former Cowboys coach Jason Garrett will replace Drew Brees on NBC's NFL pregame show, "Football Night in America," The Post has learned. Garrett could still also succeed Brees as NBC's Notre Dame game analyst, but a final decision has not been made there yet, according to sources.
About to have 500% more pregame clapping.  |
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Posted: 6/9/2022 4:29:27 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Via the New York Post: Former Cowboys coach Jason Garrett will replace Drew Brees on NBC's NFL pregame show, "Football Night in America," The Post has learned. Garrett could still also succeed Brees as NBC's Notre Dame game analyst, but a final decision has not been made there yet, according to sources. About to have 500% more pregame clapping. https://media.giphy.com/media/SGWqZBe0hCj3nlr0Dn/giphy.gif The fact that I literally had to do a google search for "Jason Garrett" to tell if you were being serious or making a joke kinda says it all. |
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Posted: 6/9/2022 4:49:20 PM EST
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Michael Thomas is "doubtful" for the Saints mandatory minicamp next week.
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Posted: 6/9/2022 4:55:50 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Michael Thomas is "doubtful" for the Saints mandatory minicamp next week.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/9/2022 5:43:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Tom Brady has entered the chat. Tom Brady won playoff games. Lots and lots of them. |
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Posted: 6/9/2022 5:44:53 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Tom Brady won playoff games. Lots and lots of them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Tom Brady has entered the chat. Tom Brady won playoff games. Lots and lots of them. He had a lot of home fields thanks to a shit division. |
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Posted: 6/9/2022 5:47:30 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He had a lot of home fields thanks to a shit division. So did Rodgers. One and done this year at home with the #1 seed. Lol, mvp. |
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Posted: 6/9/2022 5:50:22 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He had a lot of home fields thanks to a shit division. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Tom Brady has entered the chat. Tom Brady won playoff games. Lots and lots of them. He had a lot of home fields thanks to a shit division. After the past two seasons, that might not be the best argument for you to make. 
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Posted: 6/9/2022 5:51:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Rodgers is basically the modern day Dan Marino. A freak talent/athlete, with amazing regular season numbers, but a questionable post season record. At least he managed to get his 1 ring, which was more than Dan. Dan was a unquestionable first ballot Hall of Fame selection. Rodgers will be the same when he is done. Edit: Just furthering my "modern day Dan Marino" comment. Marino was 8-10 in the post season. If you remove Rodgers 1 Super Bowl season, he drops to 7-10 in the post season. Marino had three 1 and dones and six 1-1 post seasons. Rodgers has had four 1 and dones and five 1-1 post seasons. While I hated the guy during his playing career, it was clear he was an exceptional talent and IMO, the best pure passer the league has ever seen. After reading your post, I thought about whether Rodgers might be the better QB, but after going through everything I could think of (the eras they played in, the teams they were on, the competition they faced, etc.), I'm going to have to give the nod to Marino. The shit that guy did in the 1980s was on another level from other pro-bowl quarterbacks. He had really crappy teams he was playing on, and the teams he played against were pretty decent for the most part, unlike the NFC North. |
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Posted: 6/9/2022 5:51:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: After the past two seasons, that might not be the best argument for you to make. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Tom Brady has entered the chat. Tom Brady won playoff games. Lots and lots of them. He had a lot of home fields thanks to a shit division. After the past two seasons, that might not be the best argument for you to make. I think you missed my point. |
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Posted: 6/9/2022 5:55:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think you missed my point. My point is, Brady usually wins in the post season, and Rodgers does not. Others have posted that he got some mvp awards that were gifts. |
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Posted: 6/9/2022 5:55:39 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Tom Brady has entered the chat. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Career win record. Career yardage. Career touchdowns. Career interception/touchdown ratio. Career passer rating numbers. Career playoff appearances. Career pro bowl nominations. Career all pro selections. Career MVP selections. Super Bowl Champion. Super Bowl MVP. Single season passer rating record holder. Single season interception percentage record holder. Career interception percentage record holder. Career interception/touchdown ratio record holder. Most consecutive passes without an interception record holder. Most seasons with 35+, 40+ and 45+ touchdown passes record holder (tied). Most seasons with a passer rating over 100.0 record holder. Quickest quarterback to 30,000 passing yards (by attempts). Fewest games to both 300 and 400 passing touchdowns record holder. Most consecutive games with a passer rating over 100 and 110 record holder. I don't like Rodgers much, but he has a body of work that ensures he is absolutely a Hall of Fame selection, beyond many current and projected Hall of Famers. When you get to play against the 3 shittiest teams in the nfc twice a year, you will get great qb numbers. Tom Brady has entered the chat. |
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Posted: 6/9/2022 5:57:28 PM EST
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I could not stand ben, but the fucker took the steelers to two superbowls as a wild card team. NFW Rodgers will do that and win the SB.
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Posted: 6/9/2022 5:59:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Dolphins beat Brady more than any other team. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Career win record. Career yardage. Career touchdowns. Career interception/touchdown ratio. Career passer rating numbers. Career playoff appearances. Career pro bowl nominations. Career all pro selections. Career MVP selections. Super Bowl Champion. Super Bowl MVP. Single season passer rating record holder. Single season interception percentage record holder. Career interception percentage record holder. Career interception/touchdown ratio record holder. Most consecutive passes without an interception record holder. Most seasons with 35+, 40+ and 45+ touchdown passes record holder (tied). Most seasons with a passer rating over 100.0 record holder. Quickest quarterback to 30,000 passing yards (by attempts). Fewest games to both 300 and 400 passing touchdowns record holder. Most consecutive games with a passer rating over 100 and 110 record holder. I don't like Rodgers much, but he has a body of work that ensures he is absolutely a Hall of Fame selection, beyond many current and projected Hall of Famers. When you get to play against the 3 shittiest teams in the nfc twice a year, you will get great qb numbers. Tom Brady has entered the chat. You’re kinda making my point. The team in his division most able to beat him managed to bat .333. |
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Posted: 6/9/2022 5:59:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I could not stand ben, but the fucker took the steelers to two superbowls as a wild card team. NFW Rodgers will do that and win the SB. Packers 2010 season has entered the chat |
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Posted: 6/9/2022 6:03:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think you missed my point. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Tom Brady has entered the chat. Tom Brady won playoff games. Lots and lots of them. He had a lot of home fields thanks to a shit division. After the past two seasons, that might not be the best argument for you to make. I think you missed my point. When talking about Brady vs Rodgers Lorazepam posted "Tom Brady won lots and lots of playoff games." You posted that Brady "had a lot of home fields." You made it sound like having home field makes winning "lots and lots of playoff games" a layup. It doesn't. The Packers being the #1 seed the past two seasons and doing fuck all with it (including going one and done to a team that didn't score an offensive or defensive TD) supports that. |
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Posted: 6/9/2022 6:05:58 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When talking about Brady vs Rodgers Lorazepam posted "Tom Brady won lots and lots of playoff games." You posted that Brady "had a lot of home fields." You made it sound like having home field makes winning "lots and lots of playoff games" a layup. It doesn't. The Packers being the #1 seed the past two seasons and doing fuck all with it (including going one and done to a team that didn't score an offensive or defensive TD) supports that. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Tom Brady has entered the chat. Tom Brady won playoff games. Lots and lots of them. He had a lot of home fields thanks to a shit division. After the past two seasons, that might not be the best argument for you to make. I think you missed my point. When talking about Brady vs Rodgers Lorazepam posted "Tom Brady won lots and lots of playoff games." You posted that Brady "had a lot of home fields." You made it sound like having home field makes winning "lots and lots of playoff games" a layup. It doesn't. The Packers being the #1 seed the past two seasons and doing fuck all with it (including going one and done to a team that didn't score an offensive or defensive TD) supports that. That is part of a reply chain that started with Rodgers playing in a shit division. That was the point. |
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Posted: 6/9/2022 6:13:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That is part of a reply chain that started with Rodgers playing in a shit division. That was the point. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Tom Brady has entered the chat. Tom Brady won playoff games. Lots and lots of them. He had a lot of home fields thanks to a shit division. After the past two seasons, that might not be the best argument for you to make. I think you missed my point. When talking about Brady vs Rodgers Lorazepam posted "Tom Brady won lots and lots of playoff games." You posted that Brady "had a lot of home fields." You made it sound like having home field makes winning "lots and lots of playoff games" a layup. It doesn't. The Packers being the #1 seed the past two seasons and doing fuck all with it (including going one and done to a team that didn't score an offensive or defensive TD) supports that. That is part of a reply chain that started with Rodgers playing in a shit division. That was the point. I'm talking specifically about you bringing up home filed to Lorazepam after he posted "Tom Brady won playoff games. Lots and lots of them." Having home field does NOT make winning "lots and lots of playoff games" a layup. The Packers' past two seasons are examples. |
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Posted: 6/9/2022 6:30:33 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm talking specifically about you bringing up home filed to Lorazepam after he posted "Tom Brady won playoff games. Lots and lots of them." Having home field does NOT make winning "lots and lots of playoff games" a layup. The Packers' past two seasons are examples. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Tom Brady has entered the chat. Tom Brady won playoff games. Lots and lots of them. He had a lot of home fields thanks to a shit division. After the past two seasons, that might not be the best argument for you to make. I think you missed my point. When talking about Brady vs Rodgers Lorazepam posted "Tom Brady won lots and lots of playoff games." You posted that Brady "had a lot of home fields." You made it sound like having home field makes winning "lots and lots of playoff games" a layup. It doesn't. The Packers being the #1 seed the past two seasons and doing fuck all with it (including going one and done to a team that didn't score an offensive or defensive TD) supports that. That is part of a reply chain that started with Rodgers playing in a shit division. That was the point. I'm talking specifically about you bringing up home filed to Lorazepam after he posted "Tom Brady won playoff games. Lots and lots of them." Having home field does NOT make winning "lots and lots of playoff games" a layup. The Packers' past two seasons are examples. That was not my contention. I’m talking about shitty divisions. |
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Posted: 6/9/2022 6:44:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That was not my contention. I’m talking about shitty divisions. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Tom Brady has entered the chat. Tom Brady won playoff games. Lots and lots of them. He had a lot of home fields thanks to a shit division. After the past two seasons, that might not be the best argument for you to make. I think you missed my point. When talking about Brady vs Rodgers Lorazepam posted "Tom Brady won lots and lots of playoff games." You posted that Brady "had a lot of home fields." You made it sound like having home field makes winning "lots and lots of playoff games" a layup. It doesn't. The Packers being the #1 seed the past two seasons and doing fuck all with it (including going one and done to a team that didn't score an offensive or defensive TD) supports that. That is part of a reply chain that started with Rodgers playing in a shit division. That was the point. I'm talking specifically about you bringing up home filed to Lorazepam after he posted "Tom Brady won playoff games. Lots and lots of them." Having home field does NOT make winning "lots and lots of playoff games" a layup. The Packers' past two seasons are examples. That was not my contention. I’m talking about shitty divisions. Brady and Rodgers both play in shitty divisions and they both make the postseason, but once they get there Brady wins "lots and lots of playoff games" and Rodgers doesn't. That's the point Lorazepam was making. |
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Posted: 6/9/2022 6:48:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Brady and Rodgers both play in shitty divisions and they both make the postseason, but once they get there Brady wins "lots and lots of playoff games" and Rodgers doesn't. That's the point Lorazepam was making. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Tom Brady has entered the chat. Tom Brady won playoff games. Lots and lots of them. He had a lot of home fields thanks to a shit division. After the past two seasons, that might not be the best argument for you to make. I think you missed my point. When talking about Brady vs Rodgers Lorazepam posted "Tom Brady won lots and lots of playoff games." You posted that Brady "had a lot of home fields." You made it sound like having home field makes winning "lots and lots of playoff games" a layup. It doesn't. The Packers being the #1 seed the past two seasons and doing fuck all with it (including going one and done to a team that didn't score an offensive or defensive TD) supports that. That is part of a reply chain that started with Rodgers playing in a shit division. That was the point. I'm talking specifically about you bringing up home filed to Lorazepam after he posted "Tom Brady won playoff games. Lots and lots of them." Having home field does NOT make winning "lots and lots of playoff games" a layup. The Packers' past two seasons are examples. That was not my contention. I’m talking about shitty divisions. Brady and Rodgers both play in shitty divisions and they both make the postseason, but once they get there Brady wins "lots and lots of playoff games" and Rodgers doesn't. That's the point Lorazepam was making. I read his post, thank you. Lorazepam seems to be contending that the relative strength of the NFC is a major factor in deciding whether Rodgers deserves the HoF. I contend it’s not. |
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Posted: 6/9/2022 6:49:17 PM EST
[#28]
NFC North, not NFC
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Posted: 6/9/2022 9:37:47 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ben usually had at least one playoff contender in the division. Sometimes two. He took some wildcard teams to the SB. This year, Rodgers lost a home game as the #1 seed, and wins mvp. Brady's playoff record kicks Rodger's ass. Brees, no real argument there. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Now do Brady, Roethlisberger, Brees, or any other recent QB considered to be a HoF guy... Ben usually had at least one playoff contender in the division. Sometimes two. He took some wildcard teams to the SB. This year, Rodgers lost a home game as the #1 seed, and wins mvp. Brady's playoff record kicks Rodger's ass. Brees, no real argument there. I understand your argument, but it's not as accurate as you think. This is the list of non-Packer NFC North teams and which years they made the playoffs during Rodgers career as a starter. 21- 20-Bears 19-Vikings 18-Bears 17-Vikings 16-Lions 15-Vikings 14-Lions 13- 12-Vikings 11-Lions 10-Bears 09-Vikings 08-Vikings So only two years without at least one other playoff contender. Statistically, with the way playoff seeding works, it's honestly probably kind of impressive to see the NFC North have 2 representatives for that percentage of years. Especially with it not just being one other good team every year. (I bolded the years GB made the playoffs as well) |
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Posted: 6/9/2022 9:41:58 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe, but Rodgers doesn't have that one defining moment, season, meaningful stat etc. where even to a non-fan it's obvious it is extremely unlikely anyone will EVER top it. Marino does. I'd think his single season passer rating record & TD to INT ratio record would be hard to beat. Mahomes might be able to pull it off. |
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Posted: 6/9/2022 10:04:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd think his single season passer rating record & TD to INT ratio record would be hard to beat. Mahomes might be able to pull it off. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Maybe, but Rodgers doesn't have that one defining moment, season, meaningful stat etc. where even to a non-fan it's obvious it is extremely unlikely anyone will EVER top it. Marino does. I'd think his single season passer rating record & TD to INT ratio record would be hard to beat. Mahomes might be able to pull it off. Single season passer rating? I said “meaningful stat.” Meaningful. For career Mahomes has already past Rodgers and Rodgers is actually currently tied with Butthole Massage.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/9/2022 10:27:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Single season passer rating? I said “meaningful stat.” Meaningful. For career Mahomes has already past Rodgers and Rodgers is actually currently tied with Butthole Massage. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/258158/19676CF6-9707-4E57-AF6F-7D130C333644_jpe-2413115.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Maybe, but Rodgers doesn't have that one defining moment, season, meaningful stat etc. where even to a non-fan it's obvious it is extremely unlikely anyone will EVER top it. Marino does. I'd think his single season passer rating record & TD to INT ratio record would be hard to beat. Mahomes might be able to pull it off. Single season passer rating? I said “meaningful stat.” Meaningful. For career Mahomes has already past Rodgers and Rodgers is actually currently tied with Butthole Massage. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/258158/19676CF6-9707-4E57-AF6F-7D130C333644_jpe-2413115.JPG Is this a passer rating vs QBR post? |
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Posted: 6/9/2022 10:35:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So did Rodgers. One and done this year at home with the #1 seed. Lol, mvp. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: He had a lot of home fields thanks to a shit division. So did Rodgers. One and done this year at home with the #1 seed. Lol, mvp. Stats aside, if all you could do was judge by the eye test, Rodgers would still make the HoF. The game moves at a different speed for players like him. |
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Posted: 6/9/2022 10:38:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is this a passer rating vs QBR post? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Maybe, but Rodgers doesn't have that one defining moment, season, meaningful stat etc. where even to a non-fan it's obvious it is extremely unlikely anyone will EVER top it. Marino does. I'd think his single season passer rating record & TD to INT ratio record would be hard to beat. Mahomes might be able to pull it off. Single season passer rating? I said “meaningful stat.” Meaningful. For career Mahomes has already past Rodgers and Rodgers is actually currently tied with Butthole Massage. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/258158/19676CF6-9707-4E57-AF6F-7D130C333644_jpe-2413115.JPG Is this a passer rating vs QBR post? Haha, we haven’t had one of those in a while, but no. I wouldn’t think the single season QBR record would be very “career defining” either. |
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Posted: 6/9/2022 10:55:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Haha, we haven’t had one of those in a while, but no. I wouldn’t think the single season QBR record would be very “career defining” either. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Maybe, but Rodgers doesn't have that one defining moment, season, meaningful stat etc. where even to a non-fan it's obvious it is extremely unlikely anyone will EVER top it. Marino does. I'd think his single season passer rating record & TD to INT ratio record would be hard to beat. Mahomes might be able to pull it off. Single season passer rating? I said “meaningful stat.” Meaningful. For career Mahomes has already past Rodgers and Rodgers is actually currently tied with Butthole Massage. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/258158/19676CF6-9707-4E57-AF6F-7D130C333644_jpe-2413115.JPG Is this a passer rating vs QBR post? Haha, we haven’t had one of those in a while, but no. I wouldn’t think the single season QBR record would be very “career defining” either. Eh...owning the statistically best QB performance in a season is something to hang your hat on. His "fastest to X Td's in X games" is also pretty significant, but I bet these new guys can beat it or come close. |
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Posted: 6/9/2022 11:47:02 PM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Eh...owning the statistically best QB performance in a season is something to hang your hat on. His "fastest to X Td's in X games" is also pretty significant, but I bet these new guys can beat it or come close. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Maybe, but Rodgers doesn't have that one defining moment, season, meaningful stat etc. where even to a non-fan it's obvious it is extremely unlikely anyone will EVER top it. Marino does. I'd think his single season passer rating record & TD to INT ratio record would be hard to beat. Mahomes might be able to pull it off. Single season passer rating? I said “meaningful stat.” Meaningful. For career Mahomes has already past Rodgers and Rodgers is actually currently tied with Butthole Massage. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/258158/19676CF6-9707-4E57-AF6F-7D130C333644_jpe-2413115.JPG Is this a passer rating vs QBR post? Haha, we haven’t had one of those in a while, but no. I wouldn’t think the single season QBR record would be very “career defining” either. Eh...owning the statistically best QB performance in a season is something to hang your hat on. His "fastest to X Td's in X games" is also pretty significant, but I bet these new guys can beat it or come close. Dan Marino's 1984 season was the greatest single season by a QB ever. Adjusting for inflation, no one is ever going to top that. THAT is "career defining." THAT is something even non-Marino and non-Dolphins fans know about. Which QB had the best passer rating for a single season and what season was it in? That's the kind of stat where unless you're a fan of the player that did it and/or the team he did it on, you're probably not going to know or even care. Besides, nipping at Rodgers' heels for the record is Nick Foles and Ryan Tannehill so how significant could it be? |
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Posted: 6/10/2022 3:13:08 AM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Single season passer rating? I said “meaningful stat.” Meaningful. For career Mahomes has already past Rodgers and Rodgers is actually currently tied with Butthole Massage. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/258158/19676CF6-9707-4E57-AF6F-7D130C333644_jpe-2413115.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Maybe, but Rodgers doesn't have that one defining moment, season, meaningful stat etc. where even to a non-fan it's obvious it is extremely unlikely anyone will EVER top it. Marino does. I'd think his single season passer rating record & TD to INT ratio record would be hard to beat. Mahomes might be able to pull it off. Single season passer rating? I said “meaningful stat.” Meaningful. For career Mahomes has already past Rodgers and Rodgers is actually currently tied with Butthole Massage. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/258158/19676CF6-9707-4E57-AF6F-7D130C333644_jpe-2413115.JPG As you can see, both of them started in 2017. We’ll see if they can keep it up over a 15+ year career. Mahomes probably can. Watson? We’ll see. |
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Posted: 6/10/2022 5:40:12 AM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Dan Marino's 1984 season was the greatest single season by a QB ever. Adjusting for inflation, no one is ever going to top that. THAT is "career defining." THAT is something even non-Marino and non-Dolphins fans know about. Which QB had the best passer rating for a single season and what season was it in? That's the kind of stat where unless you're a fan of the player that did it and/or the team he did it on, you're probably not going to know or even care. Besides, nipping at Rodgers' heels for the record is Nick Foles and Ryan Tannehill so how significant could it be? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Maybe, but Rodgers doesn't have that one defining moment, season, meaningful stat etc. where even to a non-fan it's obvious it is extremely unlikely anyone will EVER top it. Marino does. I'd think his single season passer rating record & TD to INT ratio record would be hard to beat. Mahomes might be able to pull it off. Single season passer rating? I said “meaningful stat.” Meaningful. For career Mahomes has already past Rodgers and Rodgers is actually currently tied with Butthole Massage. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/258158/19676CF6-9707-4E57-AF6F-7D130C333644_jpe-2413115.JPG Is this a passer rating vs QBR post? Haha, we haven’t had one of those in a while, but no. I wouldn’t think the single season QBR record would be very “career defining” either. Eh...owning the statistically best QB performance in a season is something to hang your hat on. His "fastest to X Td's in X games" is also pretty significant, but I bet these new guys can beat it or come close. Dan Marino's 1984 season was the greatest single season by a QB ever. Adjusting for inflation, no one is ever going to top that. THAT is "career defining." THAT is something even non-Marino and non-Dolphins fans know about. Which QB had the best passer rating for a single season and what season was it in? That's the kind of stat where unless you're a fan of the player that did it and/or the team he did it on, you're probably not going to know or even care. Besides, nipping at Rodgers' heels for the record is Nick Foles and Ryan Tannehill so how significant could it be? Just for the record, the "greatest single season by a QB ever" ended in a 1 TD, 2 pick loss. |
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Posted: 6/10/2022 8:14:12 AM EST
[#39]
[Pelissero] The #Raiders are signing Pro Bowl WR Hunter Renfrow to a two-year, $32 million extension including $21M guaranteed, sources tell me and @RapSheet. A big-time payday for the Slot Machine after a breakout season - and even more opportunities ahead in Josh McDaniels' offense.
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Posted: 6/10/2022 8:27:54 AM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Dan Marino's 1984 season was the greatest single season by a QB ever. Adjusting for inflation, no one is ever going to top that. THAT is "career defining." THAT is something even non-Marino and non-Dolphins fans know about. Which QB had the best passer rating for a single season and what season was it in? That's the kind of stat where unless you're a fan of the player that did it and/or the team he did it on, you're probably not going to know or even care. Besides, nipping at Rodgers' heels for the record is Nick Foles and Ryan Tannehill so how significant could it be? When Marino did this, it was before the league changed the rules for DB's and the current hands off rules. If he was throwing passes with the current rules, it most likely would have been a greater season. Kind of like Oscar Robertson not having the 3 point shot when he played. |
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Posted: 6/10/2022 9:07:43 AM EST
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Posted: 6/10/2022 9:41:46 AM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryThe average QB is making 50M? |
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Posted: 6/10/2022 9:42:35 AM EST
[#43]
Oh, I see.
“Top Average Salary” is a very misleading title. |
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Posted: 6/10/2022 10:25:27 AM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I will never forget LT losing his shit after the 06 loss to the Patriots. "I'm a very classy person." I always referred to him as a cry baby after that game. It set the tone for his whole career for me. That team was 1st in offense, 7th on defense, went 14-2, best record in all of football. Lose to the Patriots at home in their first playoff game. While they were up by 8 in the 4th quarter. That was the first of 4 consecutive years winning their division, with a top 5 offense and top 15 defense the entire time, and they never even made it to the Super Bowl. Haven't won the division since (12 consecutive years). Fucking Chargers man. Those 00's Chargers teams were the best team I've ever seen not make it to a SB. Rosters loaded with HoF talent, and it was especially painful watching them beat the brakes off the Colts in the playoffs those years. Without them PFM wins more SB's IMO. |
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Posted: 6/10/2022 11:23:48 AM EST
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Posted: 6/10/2022 11:29:06 AM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryReally don't understand how ESPN is so down on the Bengals after they addressed their biggest issue by far and have that level of talent. |
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Posted: 6/10/2022 11:36:49 AM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Dan Marino's 1984 season was the greatest single season by a QB ever. Adjusting for inflation, no one is ever going to top that. THAT is "career defining." THAT is something even non-Marino and non-Dolphins fans know about. Which QB had the best passer rating for a single season and what season was it in? That's the kind of stat where unless you're a fan of the player that did it and/or the team he did it on, you're probably not going to know or even care. Besides, nipping at Rodgers' heels for the record is Nick Foles and Ryan Tannehill so how significant could it be? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Maybe, but Rodgers doesn't have that one defining moment, season, meaningful stat etc. where even to a non-fan it's obvious it is extremely unlikely anyone will EVER top it. Marino does. I'd think his single season passer rating record & TD to INT ratio record would be hard to beat. Mahomes might be able to pull it off. Single season passer rating? I said “meaningful stat.” Meaningful. For career Mahomes has already past Rodgers and Rodgers is actually currently tied with Butthole Massage. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/258158/19676CF6-9707-4E57-AF6F-7D130C333644_jpe-2413115.JPG Is this a passer rating vs QBR post? Haha, we haven’t had one of those in a while, but no. I wouldn’t think the single season QBR record would be very “career defining” either. Eh...owning the statistically best QB performance in a season is something to hang your hat on. His "fastest to X Td's in X games" is also pretty significant, but I bet these new guys can beat it or come close. Dan Marino's 1984 season was the greatest single season by a QB ever. Adjusting for inflation, no one is ever going to top that. THAT is "career defining." THAT is something even non-Marino and non-Dolphins fans know about. Which QB had the best passer rating for a single season and what season was it in? That's the kind of stat where unless you're a fan of the player that did it and/or the team he did it on, you're probably not going to know or even care. Besides, nipping at Rodgers' heels for the record is Nick Foles and Ryan Tannehill so how significant could it be? I'd agree that Marino's season is the greatest. IMO Marino is the best QB to ever play. The key here is that I said "statistically best QB performance" and "best" instead of "greatest". Passer rating (and QBR) was invented to simplify the multiple stat categories we judge QB'S by, which is why I feel it's appropriate to say the person with the best season long PR has the statistically best season ever. |
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Posted: 6/10/2022 11:41:49 AM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just for the record, the "greatest single season by a QB ever" ended in a 1 TD, 2 pick loss. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Maybe, but Rodgers doesn't have that one defining moment, season, meaningful stat etc. where even to a non-fan it's obvious it is extremely unlikely anyone will EVER top it. Marino does. I'd think his single season passer rating record & TD to INT ratio record would be hard to beat. Mahomes might be able to pull it off. Single season passer rating? I said “meaningful stat.” Meaningful. For career Mahomes has already past Rodgers and Rodgers is actually currently tied with Butthole Massage. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/258158/19676CF6-9707-4E57-AF6F-7D130C333644_jpe-2413115.JPG Is this a passer rating vs QBR post? Haha, we haven’t had one of those in a while, but no. I wouldn’t think the single season QBR record would be very “career defining” either. Eh...owning the statistically best QB performance in a season is something to hang your hat on. His "fastest to X Td's in X games" is also pretty significant, but I bet these new guys can beat it or come close. Dan Marino's 1984 season was the greatest single season by a QB ever. Adjusting for inflation, no one is ever going to top that. THAT is "career defining." THAT is something even non-Marino and non-Dolphins fans know about. Which QB had the best passer rating for a single season and what season was it in? That's the kind of stat where unless you're a fan of the player that did it and/or the team he did it on, you're probably not going to know or even care. Besides, nipping at Rodgers' heels for the record is Nick Foles and Ryan Tannehill so how significant could it be? Just for the record, the "greatest single season by a QB ever" ended in a 1 TD, 2 pick loss. “Single season” refers to the regular season and that ended with a 4 TD 2 INT win. |
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Posted: 6/10/2022 11:47:01 AM EST
[#49]
Quote HistorySteelers are ranked a bit high.
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Posted: 6/10/2022 11:47:26 AM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd agree that Marino's season is the greatest. IMO Marino is the best QB to ever play. The key here is that I said "statistically best QB performance" and "best" instead of "greatest". Passer rating (and QBR) was invented to simplify the multiple stat categories we judge QB'S by, which is why I feel it's appropriate to say the person with the best season long PR has the statistically best season ever. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Maybe, but Rodgers doesn't have that one defining moment, season, meaningful stat etc. where even to a non-fan it's obvious it is extremely unlikely anyone will EVER top it. Marino does. I'd think his single season passer rating record & TD to INT ratio record would be hard to beat. Mahomes might be able to pull it off. Single season passer rating? I said “meaningful stat.” Meaningful. For career Mahomes has already past Rodgers and Rodgers is actually currently tied with Butthole Massage. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/258158/19676CF6-9707-4E57-AF6F-7D130C333644_jpe-2413115.JPG Is this a passer rating vs QBR post? Haha, we haven’t had one of those in a while, but no. I wouldn’t think the single season QBR record would be very “career defining” either. Eh...owning the statistically best QB performance in a season is something to hang your hat on. His "fastest to X Td's in X games" is also pretty significant, but I bet these new guys can beat it or come close. Dan Marino's 1984 season was the greatest single season by a QB ever. Adjusting for inflation, no one is ever going to top that. THAT is "career defining." THAT is something even non-Marino and non-Dolphins fans know about. Which QB had the best passer rating for a single season and what season was it in? That's the kind of stat where unless you're a fan of the player that did it and/or the team he did it on, you're probably not going to know or even care. Besides, nipping at Rodgers' heels for the record is Nick Foles and Ryan Tannehill so how significant could it be? I'd agree that Marino's season is the greatest. IMO Marino is the best QB to ever play. The key here is that I said "statistically best QB performance" and "best" instead of "greatest". Passer rating (and QBR) was invented to simplify the multiple stat categories we judge QB'S by, which is why I feel it's appropriate to say the person with the best season long PR has the statistically best season ever. I know that’s what you’re saying. What I’m saying in response to that is having the greatest single season ever is "career defining” and something even non-Marino and non-Dolphins fans know about while knowing which QB had the best passer rating for a single season and what season was it in is the kind of stat where unless you're a fan of the player that did it and/or the team he did it on, you're probably not going to know or even care. |
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