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Posted: 9/20/2023 4:39:42 PM EDT
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Looking at Twitter regarding the Bears' situation, I'm noticing a lot of EDP445 (AKA: EatDatPussy445) references. EDP445 was the Eagles superfan that had a fairly popular Eagles-related YouTube channel and then a few years ago he was caught trying to meet up with a 13 year old girl for sex.
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Posted: 9/20/2023 4:43:22 PM EDT
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Via Breer: I'd be careful in jumping to conclusions on this one but it's definitely fair to say the staff there is stunned. In the words of one coach: "F***ing crazy."
Edit: You know it is going to be something crazy when none of the ranting heads on Twitter are willing to even say it online in fear of being wrong/possible backlash/repercussions. Double Edit: Makes it sound like it's not child porn, but could be something else just as bad/insane? |
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Posted: 9/20/2023 4:45:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Bills have entered the chat  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Didn't the Chargers have one seasons where they had the #1 offense AND the #1 defense and still didn't make the playoffs? I don't think which franchise is more cursed: 1. Chargers 2. Jets 3. Browns 4. Lions The Bills have entered the chat From a franchise perspective, the Bills aren't even close to the four listed. However, from a fan's perspective, the Bills would be a worthy inclusion. |
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Posted: 9/20/2023 4:46:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: WTF is going on? Sounds like there is something happening but not 'child' or FBI related  Still very odd to quit on the team after one game (he wasn't at the game week 2). Quote HistoryQuoted: WTF is going on? Sounds like there is something happening but not 'child' or FBI related Still very odd to quit on the team after one game (he wasn't at the game week 2). It could be a "you can't fire me for X if I already resigned for Y" situation. |
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Posted: 9/20/2023 4:49:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It could be a "you can't fire me for X if I already resigned for Y" situation. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: WTF is going on? Sounds like there is something happening but not 'child' or FBI related Still very odd to quit on the team after one game (he wasn't at the game week 2). It could be a "you can't fire me for X if I already resigned for Y" situation. Yeah but if he knew he got raided for a serious felony I doubt he'd mention coaching again in the future. Also, if he resigned this morning then why would the HC refuse to comment if he was still even employed? |
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Posted: 9/20/2023 4:51:53 PM EDT
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"Get me the fuck out of here." - Nathan Peterman |
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Posted: 9/20/2023 4:55:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
"Get me the fuck out of here." - Nathan Peterman He can go to the jets so he can continue to make passes to the Bills
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Posted: 9/20/2023 5:03:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah but if he knew he got raided for a serious felony I doubt he'd mention coaching again in the future. Also, if he resigned this morning then why would the HC refuse to comment if he was still even employed? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: WTF is going on? Sounds like there is something happening but not 'child' or FBI related Still very odd to quit on the team after one game (he wasn't at the game week 2). It could be a "you can't fire me for X if I already resigned for Y" situation. Yeah but if he knew he got raided for a serious felony I doubt he'd mention coaching again in the future. Also, if he resigned this morning then why would the HC refuse to comment if he was still even employed? It could just be posturing. Didn't O.J. have some quote like "I won't rest until I find the real killer"? |
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Posted: 9/20/2023 5:06:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Marcus Maye of the New Orleans Saints has been suspended without pay for the next three games for violating the NFL Policy on Substances of Abuse. 7th season, 2nd with the Saints. He already had 1 INT and 1 sack in the first two games. They no longer test for pot, right? What did he ingest? |
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Posted: 9/20/2023 5:10:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They no longer test for pot, right? What did he ingest? |
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Posted: 9/20/2023 5:16:33 PM EDT
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Andrew M. Stroth, a sports attorney based out of Chicago who is working with former Bears DC Alan Williams.
"Given the false rumors and what seems to be out there on social media, I just want to set the record straight that Coach Williams has some health challenges and some family issues he's dealing with and he thought it was the right time to take a step back and deal with those issues. He has tremendous respect for the Bears organization and he just though it was the time to handle this health issue and his personal matters." One would typically not need an attorney to make these kinds of statements if they were actually stepping away due to health matters... So I'm going to put some SERIOUS emphasis on "family issues" and "personal matters", and that those family issues/personal matters are probably "fucking crazy". |
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Posted: 9/20/2023 5:27:30 PM EDT
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/media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/476-342.gif It took me 2.5 seconds, but....BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! 
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Posted: 9/20/2023 5:32:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Andrew M. Stroth, a sports attorney based out of Chicago who is working with former Bears DC Alan Williams. "Given the false rumors and what seems to be out there on social media, I just want to set the record straight that Coach Williams has some health challenges and some family issues he's dealing with and he thought it was the right time to take a step back and deal with those issues. He has tremendous respect for the Bears organization and he just though it was the time to handle this health issue and his personal matters." One would typically not need an attorney to make these kinds of statements if they were actually stepping away due to health matters... So I'm going to put some SERIOUS emphasis on "family issues" and "personal matters", and that those family issues/personal matters are probably "fucking crazy". Typically yes. But unfortunately nowadays with social media being what it is and everyone rushing to break a story. You need legal representation to put people on notice. Especially since the offices got raided by LEO and then you suddenly deciding to resign. |
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Posted: 9/20/2023 5:43:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Didn't the Chargers have one seasons where they had the #1 offense AND the #1 defense and still didn't make the playoffs? I don't think which franchise is more cursed: 1. Chargers 2. Jets 3. Browns 4. Lions Well, let's take a look: A. The Lions are just generally mediocre. They try at times, but mediocre really is their destiny. B. The Jets also try, but unlike the Lions, they are destined for long periods of mediocrity and then every once in a while...OMG WE'RE IN THE AFC CHAMPIONSHIP...shit. C. Brown is a team name, a color, and a verb, and the verb is just a simple abbreviation for "we're going to make it look like we're working hard at competing, but what we're really doing is making sure we just Brown." D. The Chargers? That team is genuinely cursed: 14-2...poof one and done. Interception to seal the playoff win late in the fourth quarter against the mighty Patriots...and before the defender and say "I got the pick!" he's stripped of it and the Patriots actually gain field position and a new set of downs in order to win the game. The aforementioned #1 offense and #1 defense on the same team in the same year...and they can't even make the playoffs because their special teams are so bad. They've had a bonafide 1st ballot hall-of-famer at QB on a damn good team for almost a decade...nada. They've had a borderline hall-of-famer for almost two decades on some damn good teams...zilch. Now they've got a top three or four QB on team with gobs of talent...0-2 this year and nothing to show for it the last two or three years. Yeah, the Chargers pissed in somebody's Wheaties 40 or 50 years ago and that somebody must've had some connections. |
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Posted: 9/20/2023 5:49:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't think so. Brady didn't win any of his titles (in NE or TB) alone. Bill doesn't draft well and his strength is really building a defense. Bill is still one of the best coaches out there. It's hard to go from a HOF QB and continue winning, which is what pissed me off about Green Bay. They may be doing it a 3rd time in a row. They need a few years of Quincy Carter imo. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Doesn't his win/loss ratio without Brady show us that he's mediocre at best? Bill doesn't draft well and his strength is really building a defense. Bill is still one of the best coaches out there. It's hard to go from a HOF QB and continue winning, which is what pissed me off about Green Bay. They may be doing it a 3rd time in a row. They need a few years of Quincy Carter imo. Haters gonna hate  Ya'll* hated em because they drafted for the future instead of win now, now ya'll* hate em because the strategy seems to work. *Not necessarily anyone in here specifically, just the general consensus of NFL fans speaking about GB |
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Posted: 9/20/2023 5:55:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Haters gonna hate Ya'll* hated em because they drafted for the future instead of win now, now ya'll* hate em because the strategy seems to work. *Not necessarily anyone in here specifically, just the general consensus of NFL fans speaking about GB Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Doesn't his win/loss ratio without Brady show us that he's mediocre at best? Bill doesn't draft well and his strength is really building a defense. Bill is still one of the best coaches out there. It's hard to go from a HOF QB and continue winning, which is what pissed me off about Green Bay. They may be doing it a 3rd time in a row. They need a few years of Quincy Carter imo. Haters gonna hate Ya'll* hated em because they drafted for the future instead of win now, now ya'll* hate em because the strategy seems to work. *Not necessarily anyone in here specifically, just the general consensus of NFL fans speaking about GB
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Posted: 9/20/2023 6:10:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Haters gonna hate Ya'll* hated em because they drafted for the future instead of win now, now ya'll* hate em because the strategy seems to work. *Not necessarily anyone in here specifically, just the general consensus of NFL fans speaking about GB The Cowboys planned for the future too, when they got Quincy Carter. That is usually how QB picks go. To get 2 HOF quality QB's back to back is hard enough. If this one goes the same way, dark forces are obviously at work.
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Posted: 9/20/2023 6:11:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't hate GB, I just think at some point someone sold their soul to the devil for their freaky qb success. The Cowboys planned for the future too, when they got Quincy Carter. That is usually how QB picks go. To get 2 HOF quality QB's back to back is hard enough. If this one goes the same way, dark forces are obviously at work. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Haters gonna hate Ya'll* hated em because they drafted for the future instead of win now, now ya'll* hate em because the strategy seems to work. *Not necessarily anyone in here specifically, just the general consensus of NFL fans speaking about GB The Cowboys planned for the future too, when they got Quincy Carter. That is usually how QB picks go. To get 2 HOF quality QB's back to back is hard enough. If this one goes the same way, dark forces are obviously at work. Don't worry, it probably won't happen 
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Posted: 9/20/2023 6:13:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't worry, it probably won't happen I know it's only 2 games, but he's looking pretty good so far. |
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Posted: 9/20/2023 6:57:10 PM EDT
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Nothing about Kareem Hunt signing 1 year 4 mill with browns?
Good for him finding a job. |
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Posted: 9/20/2023 6:59:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nothing about Kareem Hunt signing 1 year 4 mill with browns? Good for him finding a job. There was a page or two ago, but there has since been a lot of drama including defensive coordinators allegedly getting raided by the FBI for kiddie stuff. |
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Posted: 9/20/2023 7:07:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nothing about Kareem Hunt signing 1 year 4 mill with browns? Good for him finding a job. Right when Chubb got hurt I mentioned it. From what I am reading, he will be behind Ford on the depth chart. I stashed him in fantasy though. |
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Posted: 9/20/2023 7:21:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There was a page or two ago, but there has since been a lot of drama including defensive coordinators allegedly getting raided by the FBI for kiddie stuff. The latest I saw was that the FBI raid was social media rumors. I’m betting someone has a drug issue or was caught with a prostitute, something like that. |
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Posted: 9/20/2023 7:45:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It was eyeroll-inducing when announcers/media would call Tyron Smith "elite" 3 years ago. Now its beyond absurd.  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/20/2023 9:12:03 PM EDT
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Akers to Minnesota |
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Posted: 9/20/2023 9:13:20 PM EDT
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Akers to Minnesota
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Posted: 9/20/2023 9:42:25 PM EDT
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2026 picks? What the hell, that's so many years later.
NFL should be putting a limit on those. |
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Posted: 9/20/2023 10:14:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 2026 picks? What the hell, that's so many years later. NFL should be putting a limit on those. They do. 3 years is the max. |
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Posted: 9/21/2023 10:55:55 AM EDT
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I didnt see the his since the game wasnt shown here. I have to look it up |
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Posted: 9/21/2023 11:32:03 AM EDT
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Via The Guardian: The Browns sold their souls to sign Deshaun Watson. The results are not pretty
Cleveland gave up $230m, three first-round draft picks and their dignity for the quarterback. They've been rewarded with one of the league's biggest flops Cleveland went all in on Watson selling their souls in the process. He is on the books for almost $64m a year for the next three years, with no mechanism for Cleveland to move off his contract. There hasn't been - and won't be - much help from the draft either: the Browns traded their 2022, 2023 and 2024 first-round picks to the Texans in return for Watson. He could, of course, still turn things around - he's young and looked like having a shot at a Hall of Fame career just a few years ago. But if Watson continues to fall on his face, the Browns will have torched a championship window that they crawled through shame to get to. |
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Posted: 9/21/2023 12:04:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Via The Guardian: The Browns sold their souls to sign Deshaun Watson. The results are not pretty Cleveland gave up $230m, three first-round draft picks and their dignity for the quarterback. They've been rewarded with one of the league's biggest flops Quote HistoryQuoted: Via The Guardian: The Browns sold their souls to sign Deshaun Watson. The results are not pretty Cleveland gave up $230m, three first-round draft picks and their dignity for the quarterback. They've been rewarded with one of the league's biggest flops Cleveland went all in on Watson selling their souls in the process. He is on the books for almost $64m a year for the next three years, with no mechanism for Cleveland to move off his contract. There hasn't been - and won't be - much help from the draft either: the Browns traded their 2022, 2023 and 2024 first-round picks to the Texans in return for Watson. He could, of course, still turn things around - he's young and looked like having a shot at a Hall of Fame career just a few years ago. But if Watson continues to fall on his face, the Browns will have torched a championship window that they crawled through shame to get to. What makes it even funnier is that it seems 99%+ of knowledgeable NFL fans saw this coming the day the trade happened. It didn't even require hindsight to know this was one of the worst trades/deals in NFL history. Hell, I'd argue that, with no hindsight, it was THE worst trade/deal in NFL history. I mean can anyone think of one worse? |
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Posted: 9/21/2023 12:08:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Via The Guardian: The Browns sold their souls to sign Deshaun Watson. The results are not pretty Cleveland gave up $230m, three first-round draft picks and their dignity for the quarterback. They've been rewarded with one of the league's biggest flops People don't think the Browns organization be like it is. The factory continues to churn. Where's that jersey with all the QB names attached to it? Might want to add Watson to it. |
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Posted: 9/21/2023 12:12:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What makes it even funnier is that it seems 99%+ of knowledgeable NFL fans saw this coming the day the trade happened. It didn't even require hindsight to know this was one of the worst trades/deals in NFL history. Hell, I'd argue that, with no hindsight, it was THE worst trade/deal in NFL history. I mean can anyone think of one worse? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Via The Guardian: The Browns sold their souls to sign Deshaun Watson. The results are not pretty Cleveland gave up $230m, three first-round draft picks and their dignity for the quarterback. They've been rewarded with one of the league's biggest flops Cleveland went all in on Watson selling their souls in the process. He is on the books for almost $64m a year for the next three years, with no mechanism for Cleveland to move off his contract. There hasn't been - and won't be - much help from the draft either: the Browns traded their 2022, 2023 and 2024 first-round picks to the Texans in return for Watson. He could, of course, still turn things around - he's young and looked like having a shot at a Hall of Fame career just a few years ago. But if Watson continues to fall on his face, the Browns will have torched a championship window that they crawled through shame to get to. What makes it even funnier is that it seems 99%+ of knowledgeable NFL fans saw this coming the day the trade happened. It didn't even require hindsight to know this was one of the worst trades/deals in NFL history. Hell, I'd argue that, with no hindsight, it was THE worst trade/deal in NFL history. I mean can anyone think of one worse? So far you could argue Wilson and the Broncos deal. But that one wasn't nearly as predictable as Watson and the Browns though. |
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Posted: 9/21/2023 12:24:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So far you could argue Wilson and the Broncos deal. But that one wasn't nearly as predictable as Watson and the Browns though. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Via The Guardian: The Browns sold their souls to sign Deshaun Watson. The results are not pretty Cleveland gave up $230m, three first-round draft picks and their dignity for the quarterback. They've been rewarded with one of the league's biggest flops Cleveland went all in on Watson selling their souls in the process. He is on the books for almost $64m a year for the next three years, with no mechanism for Cleveland to move off his contract. There hasn't been - and won't be - much help from the draft either: the Browns traded their 2022, 2023 and 2024 first-round picks to the Texans in return for Watson. He could, of course, still turn things around - he's young and looked like having a shot at a Hall of Fame career just a few years ago. But if Watson continues to fall on his face, the Browns will have torched a championship window that they crawled through shame to get to. What makes it even funnier is that it seems 99%+ of knowledgeable NFL fans saw this coming the day the trade happened. It didn't even require hindsight to know this was one of the worst trades/deals in NFL history. Hell, I'd argue that, with no hindsight, it was THE worst trade/deal in NFL history. I mean can anyone think of one worse? So far you could argue Wilson and the Broncos deal. But that one wasn't nearly as predictable as Watson and the Browns though. I have to disagree with you there. To get Watson the Browns gave up a lot more draft capital than the Broncos did and not only did the Browns give Watson the most guaranteed money in NFL history, but they shattered the previous record too. |
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Posted: 9/21/2023 12:28:35 PM EDT
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While we're talking about the Wilson trade though: shortly after the 2022 season, I posted that the Packers should trade Rodgers for a bunch of picks because it was THE perfect time to trade Rodgers (it was obvious the Packers' Super Bowl window had closed and it was likely Rodgers was only going to get worse and his value would drop). It turns out that Rodgers was actually the Broncos first choice, but the Packers refused to trade Rodgers so the Broncos had to settle for Wilson.
If the Packers traded Rodgers in 2022 they could have probably gotten THREE first round picks. Instead they kept Rodgers for a 2023 season in which they didn't even make the playoffs and then traded him for some used golf clubs. |
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Posted: 9/21/2023 12:29:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have to disagree with you there. To get Watson the Browns gave up a lot more draft capital than the Broncos did and not only did the Browns give Watson the most guaranteed money in NFL history, but they shattered the previous record too. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Via The Guardian: The Browns sold their souls to sign Deshaun Watson. The results are not pretty Cleveland gave up $230m, three first-round draft picks and their dignity for the quarterback. They've been rewarded with one of the league's biggest flops Cleveland went all in on Watson selling their souls in the process. He is on the books for almost $64m a year for the next three years, with no mechanism for Cleveland to move off his contract. There hasn't been - and won't be - much help from the draft either: the Browns traded their 2022, 2023 and 2024 first-round picks to the Texans in return for Watson. He could, of course, still turn things around - he's young and looked like having a shot at a Hall of Fame career just a few years ago. But if Watson continues to fall on his face, the Browns will have torched a championship window that they crawled through shame to get to. What makes it even funnier is that it seems 99%+ of knowledgeable NFL fans saw this coming the day the trade happened. It didn't even require hindsight to know this was one of the worst trades/deals in NFL history. Hell, I'd argue that, with no hindsight, it was THE worst trade/deal in NFL history. I mean can anyone think of one worse? So far you could argue Wilson and the Broncos deal. But that one wasn't nearly as predictable as Watson and the Browns though. I have to disagree with you there. To get Watson the Browns gave up a lot more draft capital than the Broncos did and not only did the Browns give Watson the most guaranteed money in NFL history, but they shattered the previous record too. I agree but we've had over a season to watch the Russ deal become a bust. There is a possibility for Watson to turn it around though I doubt it. |
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Posted: 9/21/2023 12:41:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: While we're talking about the Wilson trade though: shortly after the 2022 season, I posted that the Packers should trade Rodgers for a bunch of picks because it was THE perfect time to trade Rodgers (it was obvious the Packers' Super Bowl window had closed and it was likely Rodgers was only going to get worse and his value would drop). It turns out that Rodgers was actually the Broncos first choice, but the Packers refused to trade Rodgers so the Broncos had to settle for Wilson. If the Packers traded Rodgers in 2022 they could have probably gotten THREE first round picks. Instead they kept Rodgers for a 2023 season in which they didn't even make the playoffs and then traded him for some used golf clubs. Teams always wait too long to trade older QBs who've had success with them. Saints should have done it with Drew Brees 3 years or so before he retired. |
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Posted: 9/21/2023 12:57:50 PM EDT
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What is funny about the Watson deal is they also ran Baker out of town.
I know it's only two games in but- QBR Baker 10th Watson 30th TD's Baker 9th Watson 14th INT's Baker T-1st (0) Watson T-26th (2) Sacks Baker 1 Watson 9 Bucs 2-0 Browns 1-1 |
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Posted: 9/21/2023 12:57:54 PM EDT
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Pat is firmly stating that Alan Williams' home WAS raided by the FBI.
The Bears press conference this morning was bull shit. Pole didn't tell us jack squat. Edit: I would believe they probably were told to say fucking nothing. Not just by the feds, but their own legal department. He non-answered every question this morning. |
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Posted: 9/21/2023 1:28:40 PM EDT
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Bears Special Teams Coach Richard Hightower was asked about Alan Williams' resignation and how he and the coaching staff are dealing with that: "I understand why you're asking the question. But I'm not going to comment any further on anything that has to do with that situation. If you guys have any questions about Kansas City or any questions perhaps about Tampa last week that you guys want to address in the kicking game, I'm more than happy to go into that."
Full lock down. No one saying shit. |
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Posted: 9/21/2023 1:34:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bears Special Teams Coach Richard Hightower was asked about Alan Williams' resignation and how he and the coaching staff are dealing with that: "I understand why you're asking the question. But I'm not going to comment any further on anything that has to do with that situation. If you guys have any questions about Kansas City or any questions perhaps about Tampa last week that you guys want to address in the kicking game, I'm more than happy to go into that." Full lock down. No one saying shit. No one ever seems to understand that not saying something is the same thing as saying something. |
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Posted: 9/21/2023 1:34:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bears Special Teams Coach Richard Hightower was asked about Alan Williams' resignation and how he and the coaching staff are dealing with that: "I understand why you're asking the question. But I'm not going to comment any further on anything that has to do with that situation. If you guys have any questions about Kansas City or any questions perhaps about Tampa last week that you guys want to address in the kicking game, I'm more than happy to go into that." Full lock down. No one saying shit. When it finally comes out, it’s going to be BAD! |
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Posted: 9/21/2023 1:37:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No one ever seems to understand that not saying something is the same thing as saying something. Edit: The fact that Pat said something on his show today, even after having been sued for defamation by Favre, leads me to believe that he was absolutely certain of his sources. Especially since he was on the Colts at the same times as Williams and knows him directly as well as many others who have worked with/been around Williams for years. Double Edit: All the Bears personnel would have to say is, "He needed some time to get his health right, I wish him and his family the best," and these rumors would be dead. The fact that they are just straight "no comment"-ing everything is just fueling it further. |
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Posted: 9/21/2023 1:42:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What makes it even funnier is that it seems 99%+ of knowledgeable NFL fans saw this coming the day the trade happened. It didn't even require hindsight to know this was one of the worst trades/deals in NFL history. Hell, I'd argue that, with no hindsight, it was THE worst trade/deal in NFL history. I mean can anyone think of one worse? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Via The Guardian: The Browns sold their souls to sign Deshaun Watson. The results are not pretty Cleveland gave up $230m, three first-round draft picks and their dignity for the quarterback. They've been rewarded with one of the league's biggest flops Cleveland went all in on Watson selling their souls in the process. He is on the books for almost $64m a year for the next three years, with no mechanism for Cleveland to move off his contract. There hasn't been - and won't be - much help from the draft either: the Browns traded their 2022, 2023 and 2024 first-round picks to the Texans in return for Watson. He could, of course, still turn things around - he's young and looked like having a shot at a Hall of Fame career just a few years ago. But if Watson continues to fall on his face, the Browns will have torched a championship window that they crawled through shame to get to. What makes it even funnier is that it seems 99%+ of knowledgeable NFL fans saw this coming the day the trade happened. It didn't even require hindsight to know this was one of the worst trades/deals in NFL history. Hell, I'd argue that, with no hindsight, it was THE worst trade/deal in NFL history. I mean can anyone think of one worse? I don’t know, man. The results have been much more extreme and much funnier than I ever expected. I expected Watson to be rusty. I expected him to struggle. I didn’t expect him to be this terrible and stay that way as long as he has. Oh well.
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Posted: 9/21/2023 2:52:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No one ever seems to understand that not saying something is the same thing as saying something. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Bears Special Teams Coach Richard Hightower was asked about Alan Williams' resignation and how he and the coaching staff are dealing with that: "I understand why you're asking the question. But I'm not going to comment any further on anything that has to do with that situation. If you guys have any questions about Kansas City or any questions perhaps about Tampa last week that you guys want to address in the kicking game, I'm more than happy to go into that." Full lock down. No one saying shit. No one ever seems to understand that not saying something is the same thing as saying something. It's called legal CYA. Their lawyers have told them to keep quiet and anything that comes out has to come from law enforcement or Williams lawyer. |
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Posted: 9/21/2023 3:09:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/21/2023 3:09:35 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/21/2023 3:17:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/21/2023 3:24:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don’t know, man. The results have been much more extreme and much funnier than I ever expected. I expected Watson to be rusty. I expected him to struggle. I didn’t expect him to be this terrible and stay that way as long as he has. Oh well. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Via The Guardian: The Browns sold their souls to sign Deshaun Watson. The results are not pretty Cleveland gave up $230m, three first-round draft picks and their dignity for the quarterback. They've been rewarded with one of the league's biggest flops Cleveland went all in on Watson selling their souls in the process. He is on the books for almost $64m a year for the next three years, with no mechanism for Cleveland to move off his contract. There hasn't been - and won't be - much help from the draft either: the Browns traded their 2022, 2023 and 2024 first-round picks to the Texans in return for Watson. He could, of course, still turn things around - he's young and looked like having a shot at a Hall of Fame career just a few years ago. But if Watson continues to fall on his face, the Browns will have torched a championship window that they crawled through shame to get to. What makes it even funnier is that it seems 99%+ of knowledgeable NFL fans saw this coming the day the trade happened. It didn't even require hindsight to know this was one of the worst trades/deals in NFL history. Hell, I'd argue that, with no hindsight, it was THE worst trade/deal in NFL history. I mean can anyone think of one worse? I don’t know, man. The results have been much more extreme and much funnier than I ever expected. I expected Watson to be rusty. I expected him to struggle. I didn’t expect him to be this terrible and stay that way as long as he has. Oh well. That's the thing. The trade value was a fuck ton, the money was a fuck ton, and the fact there were lingering legal issues was pretty fucked, but besides being rusty I don't think anyone seriously doubted if he'd be able to perform at a franchise QB level. It basically seemed that as long as Watson didn't get locked up or permanently suspended the trade would probably work out. The fact that he's been so awful up to this point is just the kind of karma they deserve. |
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Posted: 9/21/2023 3:24:56 PM EDT
[#50]
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Bruce Young? Nice job Shefty... |
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