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Posted: 5/1/2023 9:52:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: bucc’s LB Barrett’s 2 yr old daughter drowned in a pool.  https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/36330417/lb-shaquil-barrett-2-year-old-daughter-drowns-pool Y’all go get CPR certified. It might not have helped in this situation, but it might help you save someone’s life.
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Posted: 5/1/2023 9:55:27 AM EDT
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 I think including IOL and IDL here is a bit generous, but I haven't seen anything better. |
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Posted: 5/1/2023 11:03:53 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/1/2023 11:05:56 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/1/2023 11:26:18 AM EDT
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bucc's LB Barrett's 2 yr old daughter drowned in a pool. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/36330417/lb-shaquil-barrett-2-year-old-daughter-drowns-pool Y'all go get CPR certified. It might not have helped in this situation, but it might help you save someone's life.[/quote Damn |
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Posted: 5/1/2023 11:26:31 AM EDT
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The Denver Broncos have tied the NFL record for consecutive drafts without selecting a offensive tackle (6 drafts).
San Francisco 49ers, 1992-1997, 38 picks Denver Broncos, 1997-2002, 46 picks Philadelphia Eagles, 1999-2004, 47 picks Kansas City Chiefs, 2014-2019, 42 picks Denver Broncos, 2018-2023, 50 picks Edit: The Broncos are the only one of the 5 teams to do so while never having a Pro Bowl or All Pro tackle on their team for any year during their stretch. |
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Posted: 5/1/2023 11:38:56 AM EDT
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Via The Athletic: Making sense of the Lions' wild NFL Draft: All about the picks and a win-now mindset
In depth review in the link for Lions fans, but just the beginning snippet here: Baumgardner: So, the Lions made some noise here. Depending on which side of the fence you’re sitting, that noise is either loud booing or loud cheering. I didn’t hear too many “meh” reactions to this draft as Holmes and the Lions stuck to their board and didn’t flinch. They didn’t seem to much care about what anyone else was doing. Pouncy: Remember that “villain” hoodie Holmes wore at the combine? Turns out, he was Draft Twitter’s villain this weekend. Holmes took the top players on his board in the first round - a running back and a linebacker - and never apologized for it. He pounded tables, nearly injured his head coach and almost took out Lions president Rod Wood with a high-five - all because he got players he truly wanted. You can’t fake that sort of enthusiasm. People will naturally get caught up in positional value, and to an extent, it’s a fair discussion. The Lions passed on players at more premium positions and stuck to their board. But Holmes by and large came away with players who can start for the Lions immediately. |
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Posted: 5/1/2023 11:43:07 AM EDT
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The Patriots signed undrafted Louisville QB Malik Cunningham to the largest UDFA contract in franchise history. Included $200k guaranteed.
Cunningham, who spent five seasons at Louisville, threw for 9,660 yards and 70 touchdowns while also being a dynamic runner who produced 3,179 yards and 50 touchdowns. His career rushing touchdowns tied Louisville's school record previously set by Baltimore Ravens star Lamar Jackson. QB1 Mac Jones QB2 Bailey Zappe QB3 Trace McSorley QB4 Malik Cunningham |
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Posted: 5/1/2023 11:44:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Via The Athletic: Making sense of the Lions' wild NFL Draft: All about the picks and a win-now mindset In depth review in the link for Lions fans, but just the beginning snippet here: Baumgardner: So, the Lions made some noise here. Depending on which side of the fence you’re sitting, that noise is either loud booing or loud cheering. I didn’t hear too many “meh” reactions to this draft as Holmes and the Lions stuck to their board and didn’t flinch. They didn’t seem to much care about what anyone else was doing. Pouncy: Remember that “villain” hoodie Holmes wore at the combine? Turns out, he was Draft Twitter’s villain this weekend. Holmes took the top players on his board in the first round - a running back and a linebacker - and never apologized for it. He pounded tables, nearly injured his head coach and almost took out Lions president Rod Wood with a high-five - all because he got players he truly wanted. You can’t fake that sort of enthusiasm. People will naturally get caught up in positional value, and to an extent, it’s a fair discussion. The Lions passed on players at more premium positions and stuck to their board. But Holmes by and large came away with players who can start for the Lions immediately.  |
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Posted: 5/1/2023 11:46:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Via The Athletic: Making sense of the Lions' wild NFL Draft: All about the picks and a win-now mindset In depth review in the link for Lions fans, but just the beginning snippet here: Baumgardner: So, the Lions made some noise here. Depending on which side of the fence you’re sitting, that noise is either loud booing or loud cheering. I didn’t hear too many “meh” reactions to this draft as Holmes and the Lions stuck to their board and didn’t flinch. They didn’t seem to much care about what anyone else was doing. Pouncy: Remember that “villain” hoodie Holmes wore at the combine? Turns out, he was Draft Twitter’s villain this weekend. Holmes took the top players on his board in the first round - a running back and a linebacker - and never apologized for it. He pounded tables, nearly injured his head coach and almost took out Lions president Rod Wood with a high-five - all because he got players he truly wanted. You can’t fake that sort of enthusiasm. People will naturally get caught up in positional value, and to an extent, it’s a fair discussion. The Lions passed on players at more premium positions and stuck to their board. But Holmes by and large came away with players who can start for the Lions immediately. Talk about tunnel vision. 
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Posted: 5/1/2023 11:52:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why the  ???All Bennett did was win in the toughest football conference in the country. He'll be good sitting for a year or so & learning, getting mop-up duty in a blowout. Stafford has hinted about retiring as well. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Rams take Stetson Bennett in the 4th. Why the ???All Bennett did was win in the toughest football conference in the country. He'll be good sitting for a year or so & learning, getting mop-up duty in a blowout. Stafford has hinted about retiring as well. Obviously success in college doesn’t automatically translate to success in the NFL, but spending a 4th round pick to get the most clutch player in the history of college football doesn’t seem like a “ ” pick to me. YMMV. |
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Posted: 5/1/2023 11:53:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fu-3rm3aAAIfiuR?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 I think including IOL and IDL here is a bit generous, but I haven't seen anything better. What kind of math are they using to come up with 33% for the Falcons? 4 of their 6 picks were at those positions. Edit: Misread the chart as OL being included in the premium positions. |
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Posted: 5/1/2023 11:56:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Patriots signed undrafted Louisville QB Malik Cunningham to the largest UDFA contract in franchise history. Included $200k guaranteed. Gadgetry: Undrafted Patriots QB Reportedly Open To Changing Positions The hyper-athletic quarterback the New England Patriots signed after the 2023 NFL Draft reportedly is open to playing a different role in the NFL. It’s unclear whether the Patriots view Cunningham as anything other than a quarterback, but they did try to turn another UDFA passer into a multipositional weapon last offseason. They signed Miami product D’Eriq King after the 2022 draft with plans to try him out at multiple different spots. That experiment quickly flopped, and the Patriots cut King two weeks later. |
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Posted: 5/1/2023 11:58:34 AM EDT
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Here's another perspective:
 This model heavily penalizes the Panthers and Texans for trading up to #1 and #3. Outside of those two, we see 5 picks that stand out as worse than the field. 3 of those 5 belong to the Lions. Another is the Falcons taking a RB at #8. The last one is the Texans trading up to take C Juice Scruggs at #62. When I look at who went where, this seems like a good but imperfect analysis. |
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Posted: 5/1/2023 12:02:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Obviously success in college doesn’t automatically translate to success in the NFL, but spending a 4th round pick to get the most clutch player in the history of college football doesn’t seem like a “ ” pick to me. YMMV.Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Rams take Stetson Bennett in the 4th. Why the ???All Bennett did was win in the toughest football conference in the country. He'll be good sitting for a year or so & learning, getting mop-up duty in a blowout. Stafford has hinted about retiring as well. Obviously success in college doesn’t automatically translate to success in the NFL, but spending a 4th round pick to get the most clutch player in the history of college football doesn’t seem like a “ ” pick to me. YMMV.Bennett had a lot of talent around him at UGA as evidenced by the number of UGA players in the first round and all 10 in the draft were selected - 15 last year, not sure that makes him the most clutch QB ever. He showed a lot of grit but Georgia's offensive line gave him a lot of time to do what needed to be done, many other QB's would have looked great in that situation. |
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Posted: 5/1/2023 12:09:28 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/1/2023 12:29:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bennett had a lot of talent around him at UGA as evidenced by the number of UGA players in the first round and all 10 in the draft were selected - 15 last year, not sure that makes him the most clutch QB ever. He showed a lot of grit but Georgia's offensive line gave him a lot of time to do what needed to be done, many other QB's would have looked great in that situation. Georgia’s defensive players got drafted high, true. However, look at the skill positions on offense that he was working with - Brock Bowers is the only first-rounder: Pickens, 2nd rounder last year James Cook, 2nd rounder last year Zamir White, 4th rounder last year Fitzpatrick, 6th rounder last year Darnell Washington, 3rd rounder this year Kenny McIntosh, 7th rounder this year Kearis Jackson, UDFA It’s not like he had a Mechee/Williams/Waddle/Ruggs/Smith embarrassment of riches around him. He won two national championships with Ladd McConkey, and AD Mitchell, and Marcus Rosemy-Jacksaint. Very good players, but he elevated them. |
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Posted: 5/1/2023 1:07:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: bucc’s LB Barrett’s 2 yr old daughter drowned in a pool. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/36330417/lb-shaquil-barrett-2-year-old-daughter-drowns-pool Y’all go get CPR certified. It might not have helped in this situation, but it might help you save someone’s life. |
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Posted: 5/1/2023 1:11:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why the ???All Bennett did was win in the toughest football conference in the country. He'll be good sitting for a year or so & learning, getting mop-up duty in a blowout. Stafford has hinted about retiring as well. He was Staffords teammate in college. Yes I know he’s not that old. He was ranked as QB12 in the draft. He was project by many to go undrafted - picking him up as QB6 in the draft and full round ahead of other guys that weren’t undersized and making the news in the offseason seemed like a huge reach. |
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Posted: 5/1/2023 1:17:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bennett had a lot of talent around him at UGA as evidenced by the number of UGA players in the first round and all 10 in the draft were selected - 15 last year, not sure that makes him the most clutch QB ever. He showed a lot of grit but Georgia's offensive line gave him a lot of time to do what needed to be done, many other QB's would have looked great in that situation. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Rams take Stetson Bennett in the 4th. Why the ???All Bennett did was win in the toughest football conference in the country. He'll be good sitting for a year or so & learning, getting mop-up duty in a blowout. Stafford has hinted about retiring as well. Obviously success in college doesn’t automatically translate to success in the NFL, but spending a 4th round pick to get the most clutch player in the history of college football doesn’t seem like a “ ” pick to me. YMMV.Bennett had a lot of talent around him at UGA as evidenced by the number of UGA players in the first round and all 10 in the draft were selected - 15 last year, not sure that makes him the most clutch QB ever. He showed a lot of grit but Georgia's offensive line gave him a lot of time to do what needed to be done, many other QB's would have looked great in that situation. Yes. THE most clutch college football player of all time.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/1/2023 1:20:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He was Staffords teammate in college. Yes I know he’s not that old. He was ranked as QB12 in the draft. He was project by many to go undrafted - picking him up as QB6 in the draft and full round ahead of other guys that weren’t undersized and making the news in the offseason seemed like a huge reach. Some people may have had him ranked at 12, but they were stupid fucks if they did. Les Snead says that he was the QB he wanted all along - probably with the caveat that it wasn’t going to be possible for LA to get Young/Stroud/etc. in the first place. That was the QB he wanted, and the pick of Haener right before started the run on QBs. He wouldn’t have been there in the 5th. |
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Posted: 5/1/2023 1:30:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bennett had a lot of talent around him at UGA as evidenced by the number of UGA players in the first round and all 10 in the draft were selected - 15 last year, not sure that makes him the most clutch QB ever. He showed a lot of grit but Georgia's offensive line gave him a lot of time to do what needed to be done, many other QB's would have looked great in that situation. Good o-line can make almost any qb look good. |
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Posted: 5/1/2023 1:40:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They had very good o-line. Good o-line can make almost any qb look good. It almost seems unfair thinking of how Joe Burrow, and Tua, and Mac Jones, and CJ Stroud were all having to run around for their lives barely getting by with all those first-round WRs while old Stetson Bennett just got to stand there fat, dumb, and happy because he had a great O-line. |
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Posted: 5/1/2023 1:44:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It almost seems unfair thinking of how Joe Burrow, and Tua, and Mac Jones, and CJ Stroud were all having to run around for their lives barely getting by with all those first-round WRs while old Stetson Bennett just got to stand there fat, dumb, and happy because he had a great O-line. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They had very good o-line. Good o-line can make almost any qb look good. It almost seems unfair thinking of how Joe Burrow, and Tua, and Mac Jones, and CJ Stroud were all having to run around for their lives barely getting by with all those first-round WRs while old Stetson Bennett just got to stand there fat, dumb, and happy because he had a great O-line. It prolonged his playing career. |
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Posted: 5/1/2023 1:48:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Big Ben got the snot kicked put of him till the team decided to get serious and put some first/second round picks into the o-line. It prolonged his playing career. To be fair, Big Ben brought a lot of that contact on himself because he was built like a guard and wasn’t going to give up on a play just because defenders had gotten their hands on him. |
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Posted: 5/1/2023 1:51:54 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/1/2023 1:53:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: To be fair, Big Ben brought a lot of that contact on himself because he was built like a guard and wasn't going to give up on a play just because defenders had gotten their hands on him. |
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Posted: 5/1/2023 2:09:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Georgia’s defensive players got drafted high, true. However, look at the skill positions on offense that he was working with - Brock Bowers is the only first-rounder: Pickens, 2nd rounder last year James Cook, 2nd rounder last year Zamir White, 4th rounder last year Fitzpatrick, 6th rounder last year Darnell Washington, 3rd rounder this year Kenny McIntosh, 7th rounder this year Kearis Jackson, UDFA It’s not like he had a Mechee/Williams/Waddle/Ruggs/Smith embarrassment of riches around him. He won two national championships with Ladd McConkey, and AD Mitchell, and Marcus Rosemy-Jacksaint. Very good players, but he elevated them. George Pickens was a 2nd rounder last year due to an injury that kept him out basically that entire season, and unfounded character concerns He 100% would’ve been a 1st rounder if he wasn’t injured |
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Posted: 5/1/2023 2:11:40 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/1/2023 2:16:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: George Pickens was a 2nd rounder last year due to an injury that kept him out basically that entire season, and unfounded character concerns He 100% would’ve been a 1st rounder if he wasn’t injured So he was really good, but didn’t play. I am still not seeing how Bennett was carried by the talent around him. |
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Posted: 5/1/2023 2:17:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They had very good o-line. Good o-line can make almost any qb look good. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Bennett had a lot of talent around him at UGA as evidenced by the number of UGA players in the first round and all 10 in the draft were selected - 15 last year, not sure that makes him the most clutch QB ever. He showed a lot of grit but Georgia's offensive line gave him a lot of time to do what needed to be done, many other QB's would have looked great in that situation. Good o-line can make almost any qb look good. The vast majority of QBs to ever make the CFP had O-lines that were good or better. And yet none of them did what Bennett did. Hell, none of them, arguably, even came close. |
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Posted: 5/1/2023 2:20:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It almost seems unfair thinking of how Joe Burrow, and Tua, and Mac Jones, and CJ Stroud were all having to run around for their lives barely getting by with all those first-round WRs while old Stetson Bennett just got to stand there fat, dumb, and happy because he had a great O-line. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They had very good o-line. Good o-line can make almost any qb look good. It almost seems unfair thinking of how Joe Burrow, and Tua, and Mac Jones, and CJ Stroud were all having to run around for their lives barely getting by with all those first-round WRs while old Stetson Bennett just got to stand there fat, dumb, and happy because he had a great O-line. Don’t forget how that elite defense carried him. He’s lucky he never found himself in a playoff game down 41-35 with 2:25 left and needing to go 72 yards for a GW TD.  |
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Posted: 5/1/2023 2:25:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don’t forget how that elite defense carried him. He’s lucky he never found himself in a playoff game down 41-35 with 2:25 left and needing to go 72 yards for a GW TD. That’s for sure. Would have been an impossible situation.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/1/2023 2:33:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/1/2023 2:38:47 PM EDT
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“Who said you had a choice?” |
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Posted: 5/1/2023 2:39:37 PM EDT
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For the NFL in general, I think the comp pick formula stops counting tomorrow, so we're going to see a small wave of vet signings like these. For the Chiefs, McKinnon was a huge contributor last season, and it'll be good to have him back in some capacity, but he's old and showing his age. |
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Posted: 5/1/2023 3:41:19 PM EDT
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Agreed. Gonzalez at 17 was a win. |
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Posted: 5/1/2023 3:47:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fu-3rm3aAAIfiuR?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 I think including IOL and IDL here is a bit generous, but I haven't seen anything better. What are the non premium positions? |
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Posted: 5/1/2023 3:48:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: bucc’s LB Barrett’s 2 yr old daughter drowned in a pool. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/36330417/lb-shaquil-barrett-2-year-old-daughter-drowns-pool Y’all go get CPR certified. It might not have helped in this situation, but it might help you save someone’s life. Prayers out. |
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Posted: 5/1/2023 4:01:08 PM EDT
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Wow just wow... 
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Posted: 5/1/2023 4:19:12 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/1/2023 4:43:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What are the non premium positions? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fu-3rm3aAAIfiuR?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 I think including IOL and IDL here is a bit generous, but I haven't seen anything better. What are the non premium positions? RB, LB, S, K, and P are definitely in that category. IOL and IDL are typically also not considered premium unless you have an IDL guy that is a good pass rusher. |
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Posted: 5/1/2023 4:50:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: RB, LB, S, K, and P are definitely in that category. IOL and IDL are typically also not considered premium unless you have an IDL guy that is a good pass rusher. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fu-3rm3aAAIfiuR?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 I think including IOL and IDL here is a bit generous, but I haven't seen anything better. What are the non premium positions? RB, LB, S, K, and P are definitely in that category. IOL and IDL are typically also not considered premium unless you have an IDL guy that is a good pass rusher. I would agree with kicker and punter. |
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Posted: 5/1/2023 9:19:51 PM EDT
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That blows. |
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Posted: 5/2/2023 9:57:33 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/2/2023 9:58:36 AM EDT
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I wonder why he didn't make them take the 5th year option? |
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Posted: 5/2/2023 11:05:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder why he didn't make them take the 5th year option? |
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Posted: 5/2/2023 12:10:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder why he didn't make them take the 5th year option? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:
I wonder why he didn't make them take the 5th year option? Some players have confidence in their abilities and bet on themselves. Some players don’t have confidence in their abilities and don’t. Perhaps he didn’t have confidence that he’d play well enough in 2023 that the Packers would even want to pick up the 5th year option. And if he didn’t have confidence in himself then he definitely made the right call. Now, even if he shits the bed in 2023 and the Packers want nothing to do with him, he’s set for life. |
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Posted: 5/2/2023 12:16:13 PM EDT
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Bills General Manager Brandon Beane said the signing of free agent running back Latavius Murray was negotiated during Day Three of the draft, with the Bills and Murray agreeing that if he would sign, they wouldn't draft a running back.
"That was actually done while we were still drafting. I reached out to his agent on Saturday and I was like, 'There's still some backs I can draft, but I could use some picks elsewhere at some different positions if you'll go ahead and do this deal. I won't draft a running back.'" |
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Posted: 5/2/2023 12:16:46 PM EDT
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 These are horrible in a "bad taxidermy" sort of way. |
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