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Posted: 7/20/2022 6:55:12 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Was Eli using a RDS or does he just have great eye sight? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Red dot bros gonna own this one I don't know if he did or not, I assume not |
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Posted: 7/20/2022 7:03:50 AM EST
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It just keeps getting better. Fellas, Eli has set a big goal to live up to.
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Posted: 7/20/2022 7:36:42 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: 8+1 is plenty to get your 8 hits. You only can miss once but 1911s have great triggers and are pretty accurate. Assuming it is in the correct caliber 9mm 1911 >>>> 45 acp 1911 /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/HOW-DARE-YOU-444.gif |
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Posted: 7/20/2022 7:44:58 AM EST
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Another lesson in these events is to never underestimate your opponents. You do so at your own peril. Here are three underwhelming people who rose to the occasion and took it to their enemies. Proved their badassery for sure.
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Posted: 7/20/2022 7:55:21 AM EST
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I tell you what, this stage at 75yards humbled me. Knocked me from 3rd to 7th.
A few days ago I spent my trip to the range shooting a 75 yards.  Bear camp 7/10 match |
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Posted: 7/20/2022 8:01:28 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Another lesson in these events is to never underestimate your opponents. You do so at your own peril. Here are three underwhelming people who rose to the occasion and took it to their enemies. Proved their badassery for sure. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/332293/FFE8A8BD-BDA0-4268-8E13-00D4170FC839_jpe-2459629.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/332293/C49A42A0-7A47-4952-9CC4-CEB5F42A30A7_jpe-2459630.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/332293/6D303E0E-79A7-4ECB-9766-11E6B20DBE29_jpe-2459631.JPG Add Jack Wilson (not that he looks like someone you'd underestimate). 1 round, head shot, running target, crowded church. |
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Posted: 7/20/2022 8:03:37 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't have a 40yd range but can do at 50 yards. I carry a full size 1911 so 10 shots with a mag change in 15 seconds is not alot of time. Well you can fit 8 in the mag one in the chamber so you get 9 shots and have to hit 8 |
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Posted: 7/20/2022 8:05:46 AM EST
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Can I stop after 8 consecutive hits? Ammo's expensive these days
40 yards is beyond CCW typical ranges |
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Posted: 7/20/2022 8:07:28 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I love my 1911s, but there is no reason to carry one anymore. The 9 vs 45 debate has been settled with bullet tech and the past two years have driven home the value of higher capacity guns. A base model Kimber is 6oz heavier empty than a loaded G34, which has over twice the mag capacity and is shorter overall but has a longer barrel. Drop in a match trigger (no gunsmithing) and it's still cheaper too. You're giving yourself a reason to be talked out of. The 9 vs 45 debate has only been settled by those who want it to be settled, and not by those who choose to carry what they think is the best caliber for their needs. High capacity as a daily carrier comes with great cost: more weight and more discomfort with gains made only for those who take themselves a bit too seriously. You do realize that there are other 1911's besides Kimber, correct? You also realize that the G34 is too massive to carry for most conceal carriers even during the winter, correct? |
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Posted: 7/20/2022 8:08:51 AM EST
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Right hand barricade followed by the shoot and scoot = "The Dicken Drill"
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Posted: 7/20/2022 8:09:01 AM EST
[#11]
does shooting yourself count as a hit?
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Posted: 7/20/2022 8:09:27 AM EST
[#12]
This would be a badass competition. Stage one is the Eli drill. Stage two is the Jack Wilson (six seconds, start with pistol at low ready, head sized target, single shot). Stage three is the Kyle.
In between stages, there's the Uvalde break period. You have to stand around for a total of 77 minutes (broken down however you see fit, since there is no competent incident commander to tell you otherwise). You must a) download a new Punisher wallpaper, b) get a sick new Sheepdog tattoo, and c) handcuff an old lady who isn't wearing a mask. |
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Posted: 7/20/2022 8:10:27 AM EST
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Red dot bros gonna own this one |
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Posted: 7/20/2022 8:10:34 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe that says something about your choice in carry gun  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I don't have a 40yd range but can do at 50 yards. I carry a full size 1911 so 10 shots with a mag change in 15 seconds is not alot of time. Maybe that says something about your choice in carry gun No, it doesn't but it does say something about your ignorance
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Posted: 7/20/2022 8:11:43 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Red dot bros gonna own this one No care. |
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Posted: 7/20/2022 8:13:01 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You're giving yourself a reason to be talked out of. The 9 vs 45 debate has only been settled by those who want it to be settled, and not by those who choose to carry what they think is the best caliber for their needs. High capacity as a daily carrier comes with great cost: more weight and more discomfort with gains made only for those who take themselves a bit too seriously. I hope you are a rifleman... so you aren't counting on your handgun knowledge to save you. 
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Posted: 7/20/2022 8:14:21 AM EST
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I'd bet money the hero chose where to sit and had considered where a threat might come from, and that he would use the structural pillar as both cover and a shooting support.
His performance was legendary. Literal Old West movie level ass kicking. |
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Posted: 7/20/2022 8:14:28 AM EST
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Posted: 7/20/2022 8:14:48 AM EST
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This would be a badass competition. Stage one is the Eli drill. Stage two is the Jack Wilson (six seconds, start with pistol at low ready, head sized target, single shot). Stage three is the Kyle. In between stages, there's the Uvalde break period. You have to stand around for a total of 77 minutes (broken down however you see fit, since there is no competent incident commander to tell you otherwise). You must a) download a new Punisher wallpaper, b) get a sick new Sheepdog tattoo, and c) handcuff an old lady who isn't wearing a mask. |
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Posted: 7/20/2022 8:17:21 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This would be a badass competition. Stage one is the Eli drill. Stage two is the Jack Wilson (six seconds, start with pistol at low ready, head sized target, single shot). Stage three is the Kyle. In between stages, there's the Uvalde break period [  holy f'in s...!!!  ]. You have to stand around for a total of 77 minutes (broken down however you see fit, since there is no competent incident commander to tell you otherwise). You must a) download a new Punisher wallpaper, b) get a sick new Sheepdog tattoo, and c) handcuff an old lady who isn't wearing a mask.Comedy gold. 
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Posted: 7/20/2022 8:18:13 AM EST
[#21]
What was Eli's weapon of choice?
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Posted: 7/20/2022 8:19:30 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Man sized? |
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Posted: 7/20/2022 8:23:19 AM EST
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I shot this course, roughly, yesterday. I didn’t have the round count correct, but used an IPSC target. I shot Mozambiques (two body, one head) in under 6 seconds from low ready, unsupported. Most took around 5 seconds.
15 shots from my EDC, a P320 Compact with irons 12 hits in either center A or head. All on the target. Then for giggles, I shot it with my recently acquired P320RX full size with a DeltaPoint Pro. 18 shots, 14 center A or head. All on target. I was really surprised at how easy it was with the DPP. I am transitioning from irons to MRDS, but my impression was the MRDS yielded tighter groups than my EDC P320 Compact with irons. It’s a fun drill. Shoot it. |
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Posted: 7/20/2022 8:29:14 AM EST
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Using an IDPA target I would say -0/-1 only, and A/C for a USPSA target.
CAG/DEVGRU peeps can use a B-8... |
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Posted: 7/20/2022 8:31:39 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because of Eli I went to the range yesterday and practiced at 25 yards (longest distance at the range I was at, I will go to a different one next time with a 50 yard bay) I made all hits out of 15 rounds, just a little low is all. I usually only practice at 25 yards. 3-4 times a year. That will be changing asap. My usual distance I practice at is 15 yards. I’ll be the first to admit I don’t practice enough at long distances. Most of my shooting at indoor ranges is at the 20-40 foot distance. I can put an entire magazine into an 8” circle target at 25 yards, the group is fairly large. But, they are all in the circle. I don’t know how that translates to real world but I assume that would give me a reasonably decent ability to hit COM at that range and perhaps beyond. I’m going to start pushing my distances out more. I consider myself average or slightly below, but to me 40-50 yards seems like an eternity for pistol shooting(target size dependent of course). |
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Posted: 7/20/2022 8:33:16 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I hope you are a rifleman... so you aren't counting on your handgun knowledge to save you. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You're giving yourself a reason to be talked out of. The 9 vs 45 debate has only been settled by those who want it to be settled, and not by those who choose to carry what they think is the best caliber for their needs. High capacity as a daily carrier comes with great cost: more weight and more discomfort with gains made only for those who take themselves a bit too seriously. I hope you are a rifleman... so you aren't counting on your handgun knowledge to save you. |
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Posted: 7/20/2022 8:34:48 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In between stages, there's the Uvalde break period. You have to stand around for a total of 77 minutes (broken down however you see fit, since there is no competent incident commander to tell you otherwise). You must a) download a new Punisher wallpaper, b) get a sick new Sheepdog tattoo, and c) handcuff an old lady who isn't wearing a mask. Don't forget your hand sanitizer. |
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Posted: 7/20/2022 8:34:52 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No care. Yes you do which is why you commented  |
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Posted: 7/20/2022 8:38:05 AM EST
[#29]
It’s always perplexed me that very few practice what I call “across the parking lot” shots. A Walmart isle can be long as hell, you’ve got an active shooter, you take the shot you get.
For a while now The first shot I take at the range is a 25 yard headshot cold bore with my carry gun of the day. No warmup practices on it or at other distances, just a quick response shot as you are otherwise going about your day From October 2019 when I first started this. Not great shooting I know, but there it is  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/20/2022 8:42:03 AM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This would be a badass competition. Stage one is the Eli drill. Stage two is the Jack Wilson (six seconds, start with pistol at low ready, head sized target, single shot). Stage three is the Kyle. In between stages, there's the Uvalde break period. You have to stand around for a total of 77 minutes (broken down however you see fit, since there is no competent incident commander to tell you otherwise). You must a) download a new Punisher wallpaper, b) get a sick new Sheepdog tattoo, and c) handcuff an old lady who isn't wearing a mask. This needs to be a meme right now. With a point about why only cops should have guns. |
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Posted: 7/20/2022 8:45:14 AM EST
[#31]
Not a problem with a RDS, might be a little difficult with a subcompact and irons.
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Posted: 7/20/2022 8:47:20 AM EST
[#32]
I am curious to know what he used. Still won't change my carry preferences though.
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Posted: 7/20/2022 8:48:44 AM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What was Eli's weapon of choice? Glock 19 with iron sights. Inviting smackdowns with correct answer seem to be quicker than questions.
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Posted: 7/20/2022 8:49:45 AM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Glock 19 with iron sights. Smackdowns with correct answer seem to be quicker than questions. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What was Eli's weapon of choice? Glock 19 with iron sights. Smackdowns with correct answer seem to be quicker than questions. Confirmed? |
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Posted: 7/20/2022 8:50:38 AM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Confirmed? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: What was Eli's weapon of choice? Glock 19 with iron sights. Smackdowns with correct answer seem to be quicker than questions. Confirmed? Not by me or anyone official AFAIK. Order a RDS now to beat the rush if that turn out to be the case. F'in reporter at the first press conference interrupted the chief just as he was saying what Eli's firearm was "Glock..." STUPID QUESTION...and then the chief moved on. |
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Posted: 7/20/2022 8:58:07 AM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I did change that to 8 hits with at least one A Zone, as the picture showed two arm hits and one possible leg hit. Still gonna be a bitch - I am going to have to try it this weekend, using a B-27...I know, wider than the Toothpick Murderer.Yea somewhere between the B27 and the FBI Q milk bottle is about right. Although the Q is representing center mass hits more or less. We used to shoot some courses of fire on the B27 and simply get scored no value for hits outside the 8 ring. |
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Posted: 7/20/2022 9:00:25 AM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryI hope they made that bitch pay for two seats. What a cuntastrophe! |
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Posted: 7/20/2022 9:00:30 AM EST
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Posted: 7/20/2022 9:00:35 AM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's a fucking drill!!! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: From the badass thread. Posted by armoredman Eli's Nightmare, ten rounds, start at 50, draw from concealment on buzzer, fire at least one round from 50, close to 40 yards, subcompact pistol only, unmodified, and must navigate between three obstacles to simulate innocent bystanders, 15 seconds total time, must score eight minimum A Zone hits. That's a fucking drill!!! Sounds fun but I don't carry a subcompact. Hi Power here.. |
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Posted: 7/20/2022 9:04:00 AM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Man sized? skinny twinky man size. Sounds like a fun drill. I'll try it next time I'm at the range. Might have to be at 50 yards though unless there isn't anyone else there. But why the 15 second time limit? Is that how long he was shooting for? I read that he returned fire in 15 seconds, but was he engaged for that long also? |
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Posted: 7/20/2022 9:05:32 AM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not by me or anyone official AFAIK. Order a RDS now to beat the rush if that turn out to be the case. F'in reporter at the first press conference interrupted the chief just as he was saying what Eli's firearm was "Glock..." STUPID QUESTION...and then the chief moved on. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: What was Eli's weapon of choice? Glock 19 with iron sights. Smackdowns with correct answer seem to be quicker than questions. Confirmed? Not by me or anyone official AFAIK. Order a RDS now to beat the rush if that turn out to be the case. F'in reporter at the first press conference interrupted the chief just as he was saying what Eli's firearm was "Glock..." STUPID QUESTION...and then the chief moved on. Ah, okay. I'm good, the RDS isn't necessary for me. |
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Posted: 7/20/2022 9:09:43 AM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This would be a badass competition. Stage one is the Eli drill. Stage two is the Jack Wilson (six seconds, start with pistol at low ready, head sized target, single shot). Stage three is the Kyle. In between stages, there's the Uvalde break period. You have to stand around for a total of 77 minutes (broken down however you see fit, since there is no competent incident commander to tell you otherwise). You must a) download a new Punisher wallpaper, b) get a sick new Sheepdog tattoo, and c) handcuff an old lady who isn't wearing a mask. OK you win. You're in charge. |
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Posted: 7/20/2022 9:10:11 AM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You're giving yourself a reason to be talked out of. The 9 vs 45 debate has only been settled by those who want it to be settled, and not by those who choose to carry what they think is the best caliber for their needs. High capacity as a daily carrier comes with great cost: more weight and more discomfort with gains made only for those who take themselves a bit too seriously. You do realize that there are other 1911's besides Kimber, correct? You also realize that the G34 is too massive to carry for most conceal carriers even during the winter, correct? My post was about a better option than a 1911. As far as carrying a caliber that makes you *feel* better and more rounds "only for those who take themselves too seriously", well that's about as Fudd as you get. |
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Posted: 7/20/2022 9:12:00 AM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You do know that I don't subscribe to false narratives, right? Your Dunning Kruger is showing by the way. Lol, we get it man. Firearms technology peaked with 1911s, the .38 snub and the Garand. |
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Posted: 7/20/2022 9:13:13 AM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd bet money the hero chose where to sit and had considered where a threat might come from, and that he would use the structural pillar as both cover and a shooting support. His performance was legendary. Literal Old West movie level ass kicking. I believe he was in the bathroom when the scumbag started shooting innocent people. |
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Posted: 7/20/2022 9:13:20 AM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My local range only goes to 25 yards.  I"ll have to take a trip to the desert. Just use a midget sized target to simulate the distance... |
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Posted: 7/20/2022 9:15:50 AM EST
[#47]
Let’s remember the size target we need…
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Posted: 7/20/2022 9:15:58 AM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My post was about a better option than a 1911. As far as carrying a caliber that makes you *feel* better and more rounds only for those who take themselves too seriously, well that's about as Fudd as you get. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You're giving yourself a reason to be talked out of. The 9 vs 45 debate has only been settled by those who want it to be settled, and not by those who choose to carry what they think is the best caliber for their needs. High capacity as a daily carrier comes with great cost: more weight and more discomfort with gains made only for those who take themselves a bit too seriously. You do realize that there are other 1911's besides Kimber, correct? You also realize that the G34 is too massive to carry for most conceal carriers even during the winter, correct? My post was about a better option than a 1911. As far as carrying a caliber that makes you *feel* better and more rounds only for those who take themselves too seriously, well that's about as Fudd as you get. Your post was about shitting on something you dislike and for an agenda, in a thread about about getting others to do a drill. And a fudd wants your rights to carry and your weapons gone, this has absolutely zero to do with anything remotely close to being a fudd. |
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Posted: 7/20/2022 9:19:31 AM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I believe he was in the bathroom when the scumbag started shooting innocent people. no, the scumbag was in the bathroom for over an hour preparing himself to murder innocent people. Eli was at a cookie stand with his girlfriend getting a cookie when fate called him. |
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Posted: 7/20/2022 9:19:46 AM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol, we get it man. Firearms technology peaked with 1911s, the .38 snub and the Garand. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You do know that I don't subscribe to false narratives, right? Your Dunning Kruger is showing by the way. Lol, we get it man. Firearms technology peaked with 1911s, the .38 snub and the Garand. "We" meaning YOU, do not get it. I don't carry 1911's, any .38 snub, or a Garand rifle. I never ionce said a thing about peaking with technology either. Lol, you don't have any idea what you're talking about. |
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