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Posted: 1/18/2023 1:22:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am convinced that govt contracts are a one way ticket to obsolescence. Trijicon is one of the best examples of this. Getting one upped at every chance by everyone else while they raise prices on optics that are a decade old or older. Agree |
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Posted: 1/18/2023 1:23:52 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/18/2023 1:24:36 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/18/2023 1:27:51 PM EDT
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So far I plan on picking up the PSA Krink in 5.56. That would be great ! Lots of cool optic stuff too going on.
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Posted: 1/18/2023 1:27:55 PM EDT
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Any arfcom meetups today? I'm here till 11 but haven't been to the convention center yet
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Posted: 1/18/2023 1:28:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI didn't know that JJE owns Toolcraft. |
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Posted: 1/18/2023 1:28:42 PM EDT
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Quote Historypossible availability in x39? Wtf |
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Posted: 1/18/2023 1:29:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryPSA owns Toolcraft now? |
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Posted: 1/18/2023 1:32:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: PSA owns Toolcraft now? All of the tools belong to PSA now.  PSA captian now. |
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Posted: 1/18/2023 1:33:21 PM EDT
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Quoted: I didn't know that JJE owns Toolcraft. Quoted: PSA owns Toolcraft now? 
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Posted: 1/18/2023 1:35:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Holosun is really killing it. Is Trijicon there? I'm going to have to put closed emitter China optics on my ACOGs because the RMR is great until it rains.  I was scrolling for new optics for 2023 on YouTube and came across the Trijicon booth and they didn't have much at all to show except I guess they have some new BDC reticles coming out for their 1.5 x acog and they showcased their HD MRO which has been out for how long now? |
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Posted: 1/18/2023 1:38:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: ... know how I know you know nothing about sales, manufacturing, and marketing? How big do you think the market segment is who'd buy a SA clone rifle in an obsolete and not produced anymore caliber is? /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/giphyggt-462.gif https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/20998/792x33_jpg-2676040.JPG What happens to the imports of PPU ammo after Serbia gets sanctioned? (assuming you kept up with the Serbian/Kosovo news) |
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Posted: 1/18/2023 1:39:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Any word from CZ and rumored scorpion 4? Classic Firearms did a video and one part of the video was in the CZ booth and there was no mention of a Scorpion 4 |
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Posted: 1/18/2023 1:41:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was scrolling for new optics for 2023 on YouTube and came across the Trijicon booth and they didn't have much at all to show except I guess they have some new BDC reticles coming out for their 1.5 x acog and they showcased their HD MRO which has been out for how long now? Pathetic |
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Posted: 1/18/2023 1:44:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pathetic Holosun is crushing Trijicon to death. The night vision / thermal optics are next level. Trijicon is on the fast track to irrelevancy. |
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Posted: 1/18/2023 1:45:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Classic Firearms did a video and one part of the video was in the CZ booth and there was no mention of a Scorpion 4 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Any word from CZ and rumored scorpion 4? Classic Firearms did a video and one part of the video was in the CZ booth and there was no mention of a Scorpion 4 Not much point in a revamp of the Evo is there unless they've got a way to make it delayed blowback or locking bolt cheaper (or better performing) than the imported MP5s. |
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Posted: 1/18/2023 1:45:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pathetic Yeah, they are getting smashed by Holosun....but isnt everybody? Anything from Aimpoint? |
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Posted: 1/18/2023 1:46:53 PM EDT
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What the fuck! A krink only in 545? Wow. I was ready to buy a 556 and 762 like yesterday. A 545 isn't even on my radar. This sucks
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Posted: 1/18/2023 1:47:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThose are really cool but is anyone really going to buy them at that price? |
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Posted: 1/18/2023 1:50:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Those are really cool but is anyone really going to buy them at that price? No |
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Posted: 1/18/2023 1:53:48 PM EDT
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Ok PSA, you want to know what we will buy. I want and will buy:
300BO Krink H&R M16A1 Hopefully I'll be grabbing an AK-V from you guys in a month or so. |
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Posted: 1/18/2023 1:56:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok PSA, you want to know what we will buy. I want and will buy: 300BO Krink H&R M16A1 Hopefully I'll be grabbing an AK-V from you guys in a month or so. I wouldn't mind having the H&R 723 shown earlier |
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Posted: 1/18/2023 2:00:52 PM EDT
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Way too many AAC's going on
AAC - Americas Ammunition Company - JJE Capital owned ammo company AAC - Advanced Armament Corporation - Former maker of suppressors and accessories AAC - Advanced Armament Company - JJE Capital owned suppressor company making some Advanced Armament Corporation products |
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Posted: 1/18/2023 2:00:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What the fuck! A krink only in 545? Wow. I was ready to buy a 556 and 762 like yesterday. A 545 isn't even on my radar. This sucks I can understand that to an extent, but 5.45 is still available (around the cost of 5.56) and they are going to start domestic production. It’s also the native/correct round for the gun. |
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Posted: 1/18/2023 2:01:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I didn't know that JJE owns Toolcraft. Quoted: PSA owns Toolcraft now? https://media.tenor.com/OZ3d4KSus4gAAAAM/assimilate-star-trek.gif It’s a goddamn conspiracy to deprive you of your hard-earned money |
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Posted: 1/18/2023 2:02:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What the fuck! A krink only in 545? Wow. I was ready to buy a 556 and 762 like yesterday. A 545 isn't even on my radar. This sucks Man I love GD “you are making the STG in anything other than 7.92? HOW DARE YOU” “You are coming out with the krink in 5.45 first and not 300blk? Wtf is wrong with you?” |
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Posted: 1/18/2023 2:02:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What the fuck! A krink only in 545? Wow. I was ready to buy a 556 and 762 like yesterday. A 545 isn't even on my radar. This sucks I understand the sentiment, but a 5.45 Krink is on my short list. 5.45 in a short rifle like that is among the finer things in life. |
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Posted: 1/18/2023 2:02:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: MSRP $4,500 - $4,700 Retails for $3,800 Released on Jan 18th. Quote HistoryQuoted: MSRP $4,500 - $4,700 Retails for $3,800 Released on Jan 18th. So it’s kinda like GM6 Lynx scaled down mostly in caliber & some in price. |
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Posted: 1/18/2023 2:06:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Agree Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I am convinced that govt contracts are a one way ticket to obsolescence. Trijicon is one of the best examples of this. Getting one upped at every chance by everyone else while they raise prices on optics that are a decade old or older. Agree |
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Posted: 1/18/2023 2:09:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Man I love GD “you are making the STG in anything other than 7.92? HOW DARE YOU” “You are coming out with the krink in 5.45 first and not 300blk? Wtf is wrong with you?” Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What the fuck! A krink only in 545? Wow. I was ready to buy a 556 and 762 like yesterday. A 545 isn't even on my radar. This sucks Man I love GD “you are making the STG in anything other than 7.92? HOW DARE YOU” “You are coming out with the krink in 5.45 first and not 300blk? Wtf is wrong with you?” Haha I was being a little facetious. I understand the roots, I just don't own any 545 ammo so I am crying inside a little. |
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Posted: 1/18/2023 2:15:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sig has continued to innovate, but they did so to grab the contracts. With that said, we will see where they are in 10-20 years. Hell we may not even be able to buy "weapons of war" by then, which will really stagnate innovation and development. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I am convinced that govt contracts are a one way ticket to obsolescence. Trijicon is one of the best examples of this. Getting one upped at every chance by everyone else while they raise prices on optics that are a decade old or older. Agree Along the same lines, what is going on with KAC? They were involved in both large and small contracts 20 years ago. 10 years ago, you could buy complete guns, lowers, etc. from a variety of vendors. Now, it appears that production is extremely low volume with vendors screaming “don’t ask until 2024!”. |
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Posted: 1/18/2023 2:19:37 PM EDT
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 PSA is resurrecting the STG-44! |
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Posted: 1/18/2023 2:20:31 PM EDT
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Damn, PSA gonna cost this MallNinja some (more) money. Sounds like they are the darlings of SHOT this year.
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Posted: 1/18/2023 2:23:52 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/18/2023 2:27:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Man I love GD "you are making the STG in anything other than 7.92? HOW DARE YOU" "You are coming out with the krink in 5.45 first and not 300blk? Wtf is wrong with you?" |
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Posted: 1/18/2023 2:27:34 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/18/2023 2:29:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/18/2023 2:30:52 PM EDT
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Will I be able to purchase that PSA Krink this year?
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Posted: 1/18/2023 2:31:34 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/18/2023 2:31:52 PM EDT
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(13:45)
  36 New Guns Announced Today at Shot Show 2023: Canik, S&W, Bergara, Beretta, Browning, and More! |
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Posted: 1/18/2023 2:33:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am convinced that govt contracts are a one way ticket to obsolescence. Trijicon is one of the best examples of this. Getting one upped at every chance by everyone else while they raise prices on optics that are a decade old or older. And when they have a chance to make a good product for the consumer market, they don't do it because it doesn't fit their government contract mindset. |
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Posted: 1/18/2023 2:35:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And when they have a chance to make a good product for the consumer market, they don't do it because it doesn't fit their government contract mindset. Sounds like Colt all over again |
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Posted: 1/18/2023 2:36:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmxjYzjWQAYjDPi?format=jpg&name=medium |
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Posted: 1/18/2023 2:37:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s a goddamn conspiracy to deprive you of your hard-earned money Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I didn't know that JJE owns Toolcraft. Quoted: PSA owns Toolcraft now? https://media.tenor.com/OZ3d4KSus4gAAAAM/assimilate-star-trek.gif It’s a goddamn conspiracy to deprive you of your hard-earned money It seems to be working well |
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Posted: 1/18/2023 2:38:03 PM EDT
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Why is there so little information on Holosun’s competition optic? The night vision and thermal optics are great, but I want more pics and specs on the comp optic.
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Posted: 1/18/2023 2:40:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryJonesing really hard for one of those……… |
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Posted: 1/18/2023 2:41:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThe more the merrier. But I really don't see 'Why?'. The Dagger has virtually all the functionality covered, and another Polymer 9 just seems like a drop in the ocean. The effort toward a belt fed AR would have been better utilized. |
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Posted: 1/18/2023 2:43:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Gross. |
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Posted: 1/18/2023 2:44:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Along the same lines, what is going on with KAC? They were involved in both large and small contracts 20 years ago. 10 years ago, you could buy complete guns, lowers, etc. from a variety of vendors. Now, it appears that production is extremely low volume with vendors screaming “don’t ask until 2024!”. I mean none of us can speak for KAC, but the contracts they've landed in the past 2 years (just the ones we know about) absolutely dwarf the contracts they were winning 10+ years ago. They're in the midst of a $24M suppressor order for the USMC which is 5x or 10x bigger than the M110SASS contract when it was first awarded. They're still cranking out product left and right, but most of it is going to the DOD or abroad. They're still releasing products to the civilian market, but more slowly than pre-covid. However, things are absolutely normalizing now. Just 3 months ago, if 11.5 CQB uppers came in stock at a vendor even at scalp prices, they'd sell out in literal seconds. Yesterday, Primary Arms restocked those same uppers and they were priced slightly below MSRP and 8 hours later, they were still in stock. I haven't checked if they're still there today. |
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Posted: 1/18/2023 2:44:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sounds like Colt all over again Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: And when they have a chance to make a good product for the consumer market, they don't do it because it doesn't fit their government contract mindset. Sounds like Colt all over again I just came back to edit my post and say that Colt was another example of the same mindset. |
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