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Posted: 1/16/2023 7:36:43 PM EDT
[#1]
But can you shoot the IWI Carmel by the sea?
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Posted: 1/16/2023 7:41:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/16/2023 7:58:45 PM EDT
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmnIygdXEA8qY54?format=jpg&name=medium That Genesis Lopez has a banging body in that Twitter link. 
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Posted: 1/16/2023 8:18:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd like to see whatever is available on the ZENK RZMK-357 bullpup revolver. I'm very curious about all of the questions the render doesn't answer. Ugly and useless, maybe, but cant hep but be intrigued. TFB article claims they'll have a shot booth. https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/Wheelgun-Wednesday-Zenk-RZMK-357-Revolver-3.png https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/Wheelgun-Wednesday-Zenk-RZMK-357-Revolver-1-920x613.jpg Maybe if it dumped the shells on break open like a Schofield. But nope. |
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Posted: 1/16/2023 9:04:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe if it dumped the shells on break open like a Schofield. But nope. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'd like to see whatever is available on the ZENK RZMK-357 bullpup revolver. I'm very curious about all of the questions the render doesn't answer. Ugly and useless, maybe, but cant hep but be intrigued. TFB article claims they'll have a shot booth. https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/Wheelgun-Wednesday-Zenk-RZMK-357-Revolver-3.png https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/Wheelgun-Wednesday-Zenk-RZMK-357-Revolver-1-920x613.jpg Maybe if it dumped the shells on break open like a Schofield. But nope. I bet reloads are as LOL as the trigger linkage and striker. Do they even let gun people design guns anymore or is it just millennials feeding AI generated art into cnc machines and hoping for the best? |
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Posted: 1/16/2023 9:10:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I totally forgot SHOT is going on. Flew into Vegas this morning and it was nothing but OD and FDE backpacks, velcro patches on black jackets, and 46x30 pants clogging up the Uber waiting area. Looked in vain for the BFL infringements  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/16/2023 9:20:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/16/2023 10:24:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hmm PSA just posted this: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/130996/326089236_5930677453641688_5246872538562-2674824.JPG |
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Posted: 1/16/2023 10:39:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hmm PSA just posted this: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/130996/326089236_5930677453641688_5246872538562-2674824.JPG 9mm JAKL? |
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Posted: 1/16/2023 10:48:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hmm PSA just posted this: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/130996/326089236_5930677453641688_5246872538562-2674824.JPG All I can see is the flash hider/threads are off center of the barrel. |
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Posted: 1/16/2023 10:58:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: All I can see is the flash hider/threads are off center of the barrel. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Hmm PSA just posted this: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/130996/326089236_5930677453641688_5246872538562-2674824.JPG All I can see is the flash hider/threads are off center of the barrel.  The crush washer fell into the thread undercut during assembly.
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Posted: 1/16/2023 11:02:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd like to see whatever is available on the ZENK RZMK-357 bullpup revolver. I'm very curious about all of the questions the render doesn't answer. Ugly and useless, maybe, but cant hep but be intrigued. TFB article claims they'll have a shot booth. https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/Wheelgun-Wednesday-Zenk-RZMK-357-Revolver-3.png https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/Wheelgun-Wednesday-Zenk-RZMK-357-Revolver-1-920x613.jpg I would like to give this a try. |
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Posted: 1/16/2023 11:04:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I hope they have more than that... Quote HistoryQuoted: I hope they have more than that... This guy's insta page is showing a Holosun thermal fusion sight.....  Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 1/16/2023 11:14:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This guy's insta page has a is showing a Holosun thermal fusion sight..... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203509/Screenshot_20230116-210349_Instagram_jpg-2674996.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203509/Screenshot_20230116-210544_Instagram_jpg-2674999.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203509/Screenshot_20230116-210537_Instagram_jpg-2675000.JPG Hot damn. I was going to be excited if they came out with a Prism optic, and here they are with a Thermal... |
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Posted: 1/16/2023 11:15:04 PM EDT
[#15]
New PTR 5.56 rifles. https://www.ptr-us.com/product/ptr-63/
They also have A3 style stocks and cans listed  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 1/16/2023 11:21:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: New PTR 5.56 rifles. https://www.ptr-us.com/product/ptr-63/ They also have A3 style stocks and cans listed https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/53395/ghjg_PNG-2675007.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/53395/fghgfh_PNG-2675008.JPG Now THAT's an interesting rifle. It uses AR mags, triggers, and grips, and the serialized markings are on the lower? Wild. |
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Posted: 1/16/2023 11:21:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: New PTR 5.56 rifles. https://www.ptr-us.com/product/ptr-63/ They also have A3 style stocks and cans listed https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/53395/ghjg_PNG-2675007.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/53395/fghgfh_PNG-2675008.JPG Wow that looks like absolute dog shit |
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Posted: 1/16/2023 11:28:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: New PTR 5.56 rifles. https://www.ptr-us.com/product/ptr-63/ They also have A3 style stocks and cans listed https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/53395/ghjg_PNG-2675007.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/53395/fghgfh_PNG-2675008.JPG Im trying to understand what kind of angle they’re going for with this product…AR mags I can kind of understand…That lower though… |
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Posted: 1/16/2023 11:34:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: New PTR 5.56 rifles. https://www.ptr-us.com/product/ptr-63/ They also have A3 style stocks and cans listed https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/53395/ghjg_PNG-2675007.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/53395/fghgfh_PNG-2675008.JPG Not interested in that rifle, but totally down with the stock |
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Posted: 1/16/2023 11:35:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: New PTR 5.56 rifles. https://www.ptr-us.com/product/ptr-63/ They also have A3 style stocks and cans listed https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/53395/ghjg_PNG-2675007.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/53395/fghgfh_PNG-2675008.JPG Damn this year is getting expensive for me. ETA: does anyone with more knowledge of roller locks know if this would accept Wooden CETME furniture? |
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Posted: 1/16/2023 11:37:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wow that looks like absolute dog shit This. |
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Posted: 1/16/2023 11:47:28 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: New PTR 5.56 rifles. https://www.ptr-us.com/product/ptr-63/ They also have A3 style stocks and cans listed https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/53395/ghjg_PNG-2675007.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/53395/fghgfh_PNG-2675008.JPG Holy fuck. Kill that ugly thing with fire and go back to the drawing board. 
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Posted: 1/16/2023 11:55:02 PM EDT
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Lol. CZ makes yet another optic ready pistol, still not offering a rail for a light.
 New For 2023: CZ 75 A01-SD OR |
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Posted: 1/16/2023 11:58:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wow that looks like absolute dog shit I’ll pass… |
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Posted: 1/16/2023 11:59:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wow that looks like absolute dog shit Yup, Worse than dog shit even. And someone was saying the IWI Carmel looked like shit? The Carmel is a work of art. |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 12:01:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: New PTR 5.56 rifles. https://www.ptr-us.com/product/ptr-63/ They also have A3 style stocks and cans listed https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/53395/ghjg_PNG-2675007.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/53395/fghgfh_PNG-2675008.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted: New PTR 5.56 rifles. https://www.ptr-us.com/product/ptr-63/ They also have A3 style stocks and cans listed https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/53395/ghjg_PNG-2675007.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/53395/fghgfh_PNG-2675008.JPG W.T.F….. I realize that AR mags are ubiquitous but just because you can doesn’t mean you should. Quoted: Wow that looks like absolute dog shit That you unknowingly stepped in and then smeared all over the carpet as you walked through the living room. |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 12:06:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: New PTR 5.56 rifles. https://www.ptr-us.com/product/ptr-63/ They also have A3 style stocks and cans listed https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/53395/ghjg_PNG-2675007.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/53395/fghgfh_PNG-2675008.JPG Looks weird. Will the lower interchange with HK surplus? The front sight triple looks….odd. Looks like trash.  |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 12:08:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol. CZ makes yet another optic ready pistol, still not offering a rail for a light.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GF0oWeWf0That’s not a cz factory gun. It’s a cz custom gun. |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 12:16:47 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Now THAT's an interesting rifle. It uses AR mags, triggers, and grips, and the serialized markings are on the lower? Wild. The serial#/markings etc. are on the mag well which is part of the ‘upper’ on the HK roller locked guns. That lower looks terrible… I understand why they did the AR mag conversion though with the cost of hk 93 mags. I still feel like most people that are looking for an hk93 would have preferred a more traditional design. |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 12:39:30 AM EDT
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That PTR-63 looks a lot like the HK G41. The dual upper/lower stock pins, the bolt and mag releases seem to match the G41 design.
Honestly, if they ditch that retarded muh-operator-tactical 10-degree grip angle for something in the 25-35 degree range it’d look more normal. PTR’s Mlok handguards also don’t do it for me, but that appears to be a standard HK93 carbine length one, easy to replace. Dunno, could be a winner. |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 12:50:23 AM EDT
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That PTR 63 is barf. I've had an AR grip HK lower, its dumb. Reach to the selector is way too far due to HK trigger pack box design. I get you have a favorite grip for an AR, but an HK style roller lock is not an AR. Stop it, get some help, MJ gif.
Furtermore, reach to the mag release button is about 3 miles, and no paddle mag release. I can't wait to watch videos of this tomorrow and laugh at PTR reps fumble and reach to change mags. Believe me, I'd love for roller locks to take plentiful mags, but it just doesn't work like we want it to work. PTR could do us a solid and flood the market with rock n lock proper mags though. |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 12:54:05 AM EDT
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We ask PTR, MKE, Zenith etc for more roller 5.56 guns, and this is what we get? A G41 that tapco jizzed all over? Nah fuck all that.
eta looked at the webpage 9 lb trigger pull, weighs over 8.5 lbs. 
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Posted: 1/17/2023 12:58:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We ask PTR, MKE, Zenith etc for more roller 5.56 guns, and this is what we get? A G41 that tapco jizzed all over? Nah fuck all that. eta looked at the webpage 9 lb trigger pull, weighs over 8.5 lbs. I agree. But your going to have a lot of YouTube vids sucking PTR dick about this “improved” POS. |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 1:38:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree. But you're going to have a lot of YouTube vids sucking PTR dick about this "improved" POS. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We ask PTR, MKE, Zenith etc for more roller 5.56 guns, and this is what we get? A G41 that tapco jizzed all over? Nah fuck all that. eta looked at the webpage 9 lb trigger pull, weighs over 8.5 lbs. I agree. But you're going to have a lot of YouTube vids sucking PTR dick about this "improved" POS. Why do companies do dumb shit like this. Been begging PTR for years for those basic requests after they stopped both their G3K's and 32K line. And yet those are the ones you can never find for sale and if you do, they're a premium. Some would call that a clue. And yes I own a 9CT that has been flawless from day one and one of my favorite guns to shoot. |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 2:17:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck anyone that wants to tout this thing as the next coming of 5.56 roller goodness. Give me G3K clones, 32K clones, 33K clones, and just add the 53 to your line since you already do the 32P and 51's. Why do companies do dumb shit like this. Been begging PTR for years for those basic requests after they stopped both their G3K's and 32K line. And yet those are the ones you can never find for sale and if you do, they're a premium. Some would call that a clue. And yes I own a 9CT that has been flawless from day one and one of my favorite guns to shoot. And when this flops we'll hear for years how "people don't want roller delayed guns....the market doesn't want them" BS we want something that doesn't look like some photoshopped meme of a gun. Seriously, you want an AR? Go out and buy an AR. They're everywhere. We want guns that aren't available or aren't available without spending an arm or a leg. For 99.999% of people that want a 33, they want one because it's a 33, because it's not an AR, because it's something different. |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 2:21:46 AM EDT
[#36]
Smith & Wesson M&P 5.7
- 22 rd capacity - Internal hammer - Optics ready (no plate) - New flat face trigger design  New Smith & Wesson M&P 5.7 First Shots: Does It Change The Game? |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 2:42:51 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That PTR-63 looks a lot like the HK G41. The dual upper/lower stock pins, the bolt and mag releases seem to match the G41 design. Honestly, if they ditch that retarded muh-operator-tactical 10-degree grip angle for something in the 25-35 degree range it’d look more normal. PTR’s Mlok handguards also don’t do it for me, but that appears to be a standard HK93 carbine length one, easy to replace. Dunno, could be a winner. Yup. Wide handguard and standard angle grip, it might be okay. They got close....kinda  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 2:57:08 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That PTR-63 looks a lot like the HK G41. The dual upper/lower stock pins, the bolt and mag releases seem to match the G41 design. Honestly, if they ditch that retarded muh-operator-tactical 10-degree grip angle for something in the 25-35 degree range it'd look more normal. PTR's Mlok handguards also don't do it for me, but that appears to be a standard HK93 carbine length one, easy to replace. Dunno, could be a winner. Exactly what I was thinking. If the lower is compatible with legacy lowers, I'll be on this like a bum on a bologna samich |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 2:59:57 AM EDT
[#39]
All PTR had do is make a 53 and they wouldn’t be able to keep up with sales.
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Posted: 1/17/2023 3:12:24 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yup. Wide handguard and standard angle grip, it might be okay. They got close....kinda https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/53395/DSC_0862a_jpg-2675176.JPG That's exactly what the majority of potential buyers want All this reinvented triggers, stocks and bullshit M loc rails is pants over the head retarded. Sure offer them in your web store, but just give it a basic rifle out of the box |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 3:18:55 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: New PTR 5.56 rifles. https://www.ptr-us.com/product/ptr-63/ They also have A3 style stocks and cans listed https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/53395/ghjg_PNG-2675007.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/53395/fghgfh_PNG-2675008.JPG ooo, I like |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 3:28:29 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Smith & Wesson M&P 5.7 - 22 rd capacity - Internal hammer - Optics ready (no plate) - New flat face trigger design https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-lyE22ekM8That looks awesome. Lets just hope PSA is cranking out more 5.7 ammo. |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 3:48:33 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yup. Wide handguard and standard angle grip, it might be okay. They got close....kinda https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/53395/DSC_0862a_jpg-2675176.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That PTR-63 looks a lot like the HK G41. The dual upper/lower stock pins, the bolt and mag releases seem to match the G41 design. Honestly, if they ditch that retarded muh-operator-tactical 10-degree grip angle for something in the 25-35 degree range it’d look more normal. PTR’s Mlok handguards also don’t do it for me, but that appears to be a standard HK93 carbine length one, easy to replace. Dunno, could be a winner. Yup. Wide handguard and standard angle grip, it might be okay. They got close....kinda https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/53395/DSC_0862a_jpg-2675176.JPG Which leads to the questions 1. Did they use a proprietary handguard or make it compatible with HK handguards? 2. Does anybody make an AR grip that looks like an HK grip? |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 3:53:52 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Which leads to the questions 1. Did they use a proprietary handguard or make it compatible with HK handguards? 2. Does anybody make an AR grip that looks like an HK grip? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: That PTR-63 looks a lot like the HK G41. The dual upper/lower stock pins, the bolt and mag releases seem to match the G41 design. Honestly, if they ditch that retarded muh-operator-tactical 10-degree grip angle for something in the 25-35 degree range it'd look more normal. PTR's Mlok handguards also don't do it for me, but that appears to be a standard HK93 carbine length one, easy to replace. Dunno, could be a winner. Yup. Wide handguard and standard angle grip, it might be okay. They got close....kinda https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/53395/DSC_0862a_jpg-2675176.JPG Which leads to the questions 1. Did they use a proprietary handguard or make it compatible with HK handguards? 2. Does anybody make an AR grip that looks like an HK grip? MKE/Century shown anything yet? |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 3:55:54 AM EDT
[#45]
Only thing I want out of SHOT;
If I can buy a pair of color night vision home security cameras from Amazon for $60 damn dollars, I don't see any reason somebody can't make a set of $1k, tactical, durable, NVGs. A guy like me with 2 kids and a mortgage wants NVGs to play with. Somebody has to have the ability to make NV 'common use'! I admittedly don't understand the technology behind them, but considering the size/weight/price of something like a TV, cell phone, or computers have evolved to be less expensive with more features, why hasn't the night vision world done something relatively similar? |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 4:22:55 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: New PTR 5.56 rifles. https://www.ptr-us.com/product/ptr-63/ They also have A3 style stocks and cans listed https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/53395/ghjg_PNG-2675007.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/53395/fghgfh_PNG-2675008.JPG |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 6:26:55 AM EDT
[#47]
S&W.... I just don’t get the fascination with the 5.7 round
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Posted: 1/17/2023 7:37:09 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Only thing I want out of SHOT; If I can buy a pair of color night vision home security cameras from Amazon for $60 damn dollars, I don't see any reason somebody can't make a set of $1k, tactical, durable, NVGs. A guy like me with 2 kids and a mortgage wants NVGs to play with. Somebody has to have the ability to make NV 'common use'! I admittedly don't understand the technology behind them, but considering the size/weight/price of something like a TV, cell phone, or computers have evolved to be less expensive with more features, why hasn't the night vision world done something relatively similar? The main issues is that digital night vision requires a lot more ambient light than intensifier tubes. The majority of the $60 NV cameras use IR flood light as well which is not passive. Those $60 NV cameras really only can see in the dark as far as the IR light can throw. |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 9:00:12 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: S&W.... I just don’t get the fascination with the 5.7 round Right there with you... |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 9:43:56 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol. CZ makes yet another optic ready pistol, still not offering a rail for a light. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GF0oWeWf0 Not every gun has to be for HSLD Tactical Timmy. Its a competition focused gun from a competition focused custom shop.
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