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Posted: 5/13/2021 10:17:17 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Were you using a 220v at your dads? Just curious if you just threw a breaker/circuit on there to charge your car real quick, he had it already setup, or you were just using a 120v charger? Not being a dick with those questions just genuinely curious because I like the car :). Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I mentioned this in the Porsche thread... but just another data point of "electric cars work fine on road trips if you put about 30 seconds of forethought in to it".  Drove from Arlington to my parents farm in WV. Left the house fully-charged, stopped in Staunton, VA (half way point) at the Walmart there. Plugged in at 46% battery. Walked to Dunkin Donuts to grab a cup of coffee and an avocado toast (true story )... was at 96% ~20 mins later when we got back to the car. Hopped back on the road and drove the rest of the way and plugged in my dad's workshop. ... On the way home Monday, I did the same in reverse. So basically, a ~600 mi round trip and spent LESS time standing around doing nothing than if I had been using an ICE car. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/138374/20210507_185749-1933528.jpg Not being a dick with those questions just genuinely curious because I like the car :). Yep, 250 at the house in WV. My dad was career mechanic and likes to over-engineer things. So the garage was already wired for it for his air compresser / drill press / miter saw, etc. ... That said, having a plug installed is very easy. Our setup in Arlington looks like this: It took all of an hour to install. 
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Posted: 5/13/2021 10:20:00 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I mentioned this in the Porsche thread... but just another data point of "electric cars work fine on road trips if you put about 30 seconds of forethought in to it". Drove from Arlington to my parents farm in WV. Left the house fully-charged, stopped in Staunton, VA (half way point) at the Walmart there. Plugged in at 46% battery. Walked to Dunkin Donuts to grab a cup of coffee and an avocado toast (true story )... was at 96% ~20 mins later when we got back to the car. Hopped back on the road and drove the rest of the way and plugged in my dad's workshop. ... On the way home Monday, I did the same in reverse. So basically, a ~600 mi round trip and spent LESS time standing around doing nothing than if I had been using an ICE car. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/138374/20210507_185749-1933528.jpg There will be plenty of Arfcommers who have never even seen an EV IRL to come in here and tell you that you cant do what you just did. |
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Posted: 5/13/2021 10:22:02 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep, 250 at the house in WV. My dad was career mechanic and likes to over-engineer things. So the garage was already wired for it for his air compresser / drill press / miter saw, etc. ... That said, having a plug installed is very easy. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I mentioned this in the Porsche thread... but just another data point of "electric cars work fine on road trips if you put about 30 seconds of forethought in to it". Drove from Arlington to my parents farm in WV. Left the house fully-charged, stopped in Staunton, VA (half way point) at the Walmart there. Plugged in at 46% battery. Walked to Dunkin Donuts to grab a cup of coffee and an avocado toast (true story )... was at 96% ~20 mins later when we got back to the car. Hopped back on the road and drove the rest of the way and plugged in my dad's workshop. ... On the way home Monday, I did the same in reverse. So basically, a ~600 mi round trip and spent LESS time standing around doing nothing than if I had been using an ICE car. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/138374/20210507_185749-1933528.jpg Not being a dick with those questions just genuinely curious because I like the car :). Yep, 250 at the house in WV. My dad was career mechanic and likes to over-engineer things. So the garage was already wired for it for his air compresser / drill press / miter saw, etc. ... That said, having a plug installed is very easy. |
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Posted: 5/13/2021 10:32:05 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nice. I've thought about pre-emptively putting in a 60a breaker in my house since at some point i'll be getting an EV. I only have 100a service. I gotta see if I can do it without having to throw in a 200a service. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I mentioned this in the Porsche thread... but just another data point of "electric cars work fine on road trips if you put about 30 seconds of forethought in to it". Drove from Arlington to my parents farm in WV. Left the house fully-charged, stopped in Staunton, VA (half way point) at the Walmart there. Plugged in at 46% battery. Walked to Dunkin Donuts to grab a cup of coffee and an avocado toast (true story )... was at 96% ~20 mins later when we got back to the car. Hopped back on the road and drove the rest of the way and plugged in my dad's workshop. ... On the way home Monday, I did the same in reverse. So basically, a ~600 mi round trip and spent LESS time standing around doing nothing than if I had been using an ICE car. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/138374/20210507_185749-1933528.jpg Not being a dick with those questions just genuinely curious because I like the car :). Yep, 250 at the house in WV. My dad was career mechanic and likes to over-engineer things. So the garage was already wired for it for his air compresser / drill press / miter saw, etc. ... That said, having a plug installed is very easy. When I added on to my garage, CA building code mandated that I install a 50A breaker and wire or conduit for an EV charging location. I put 2 50A 220v dedicated circuits in. Currently use them for my welder but I am all set for if I ever want an EV. Have mentioned it before, I would love an EV, solar panels and a hybrid (grid tied and off grid) battery system. Batteries charge from panels, car charges from batteries. If SHTF and if my house is still standing, I have mobility. From the standpoint of financial practicality it is a stupid idea but I still like it. |
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Posted: 5/13/2021 10:35:28 AM EST
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These problems will be worked out. When ICE cars first came out there weren't gas stations at every corner and they couldn't go 500 miles on a tank. Yet somehow they managed to pry people from their horse buggies. EVs are coming en masse. I don't know if they will totally displace ICEs for everything, but they day is rapidly approaching where the ICEs will be sporting antique plates more often than not.
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Posted: 5/13/2021 10:41:02 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nice. I've thought about pre-emptively putting in a 60a breaker in my house since at some point i'll be getting an EV. I only have 100a service. I gotta see if I can do it without having to throw in a 200a service. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I mentioned this in the Porsche thread... but just another data point of "electric cars work fine on road trips if you put about 30 seconds of forethought in to it". Drove from Arlington to my parents farm in WV. Left the house fully-charged, stopped in Staunton, VA (half way point) at the Walmart there. Plugged in at 46% battery. Walked to Dunkin Donuts to grab a cup of coffee and an avocado toast (true story )... was at 96% ~20 mins later when we got back to the car. Hopped back on the road and drove the rest of the way and plugged in my dad's workshop. ... On the way home Monday, I did the same in reverse. So basically, a ~600 mi round trip and spent LESS time standing around doing nothing than if I had been using an ICE car. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/138374/20210507_185749-1933528.jpg Not being a dick with those questions just genuinely curious because I like the car :). Yep, 250 at the house in WV. My dad was career mechanic and likes to over-engineer things. So the garage was already wired for it for his air compresser / drill press / miter saw, etc. ... That said, having a plug installed is very easy. We only have a 40a breaker for the charger here. Realistically, it only pulls around 15. |
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Posted: 5/13/2021 10:44:27 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There will be plenty of Arfcommers who have never even seen an EV IRL to come in here and tell you that you cant do what you just did. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I mentioned this in the Porsche thread... but just another data point of "electric cars work fine on road trips if you put about 30 seconds of forethought in to it". Drove from Arlington to my parents farm in WV. Left the house fully-charged, stopped in Staunton, VA (half way point) at the Walmart there. Plugged in at 46% battery. Walked to Dunkin Donuts to grab a cup of coffee and an avocado toast (true story )... was at 96% ~20 mins later when we got back to the car. Hopped back on the road and drove the rest of the way and plugged in my dad's workshop. ... On the way home Monday, I did the same in reverse. So basically, a ~600 mi round trip and spent LESS time standing around doing nothing than if I had been using an ICE car. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/138374/20210507_185749-1933528.jpg There will be plenty of Arfcommers who have never even seen an EV IRL to come in here and tell you that you cant do what you just did. I like to blow people's minds. I don't want to shit on them too hard though. I used to be RABIDLY anti-EV. Until one day I wasn't. ... I was drunk messaging @TacticalGarand44 last night on this topic. Lol. We have to separate EV's from the political stigma of the left. A coal plant servicing a town of electric cars is a very practical solution for places like Southern WV. |
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Posted: 5/13/2021 10:47:40 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nice. I've thought about pre-emptively putting in a 60a breaker in my house since at some point i'll be getting an EV. I only have 100a service. I gotta see if I can do it without having to throw in a 200a service. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I mentioned this in the Porsche thread... but just another data point of "electric cars work fine on road trips if you put about 30 seconds of forethought in to it". Drove from Arlington to my parents farm in WV. Left the house fully-charged, stopped in Staunton, VA (half way point) at the Walmart there. Plugged in at 46% battery. Walked to Dunkin Donuts to grab a cup of coffee and an avocado toast (true story )... was at 96% ~20 mins later when we got back to the car. Hopped back on the road and drove the rest of the way and plugged in my dad's workshop. ... On the way home Monday, I did the same in reverse. So basically, a ~600 mi round trip and spent LESS time standing around doing nothing than if I had been using an ICE car. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/138374/20210507_185749-1933528.jpg Not being a dick with those questions just genuinely curious because I like the car :). Yep, 250 at the house in WV. My dad was career mechanic and likes to over-engineer things. So the garage was already wired for it for his air compresser / drill press / miter saw, etc. ... That said, having a plug installed is very easy. Do it. It's so, so much cheaper than tacking one on later. |
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Posted: 5/13/2021 10:48:31 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do it. It's so, so much cheaper than tacking one on later. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I mentioned this in the Porsche thread... but just another data point of "electric cars work fine on road trips if you put about 30 seconds of forethought in to it". Drove from Arlington to my parents farm in WV. Left the house fully-charged, stopped in Staunton, VA (half way point) at the Walmart there. Plugged in at 46% battery. Walked to Dunkin Donuts to grab a cup of coffee and an avocado toast (true story )... was at 96% ~20 mins later when we got back to the car. Hopped back on the road and drove the rest of the way and plugged in my dad's workshop. ... On the way home Monday, I did the same in reverse. So basically, a ~600 mi round trip and spent LESS time standing around doing nothing than if I had been using an ICE car. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/138374/20210507_185749-1933528.jpg Not being a dick with those questions just genuinely curious because I like the car :). Yep, 250 at the house in WV. My dad was career mechanic and likes to over-engineer things. So the garage was already wired for it for his air compresser / drill press / miter saw, etc. ... That said, having a plug installed is very easy. Do it. It's so, so much cheaper than tacking one on later. I just @'d you. Lol. |
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Posted: 5/13/2021 10:50:06 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We only have a 40a breaker for the charger here. Realistically, it only pulls around 15. https://www.tesla.com/support/home-charging-installation/wall-connector I think i'm going to put a down payment on a Cybertruck tomorrow. My wife will hate it. |
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Posted: 5/13/2021 10:52:28 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I used to be RABIDLY anti-EV. Until one day I wasn't. Same here, actually. Two things changed that circa 2016: -A ride in a ludicrous Model S -Lithium-Ion battery cost curve chart My opinion on them went from "Dumb, lol" to "Interesting, but niche" to "ICE is doomed..." |
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Posted: 5/13/2021 10:53:18 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When I added on to my garage, CA building code mandated that I install a 50A breaker and wire or conduit for an EV charging location. I put 2 50A 220v dedicated circuits in. Currently use them for my welder but I am all set for if I ever want an EV. Have mentioned it before, I would love an EV, solar panels and a hybrid (grid tied and off grid) battery system. Batteries charge from panels, car charges from batteries. If SHTF and if my house is still standing, I have mobility. From the standpoint of financial practicality it is a stupid idea but I still like it. Maybe if one of my long hold stocks do well i'll do it. |
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Posted: 5/13/2021 10:56:29 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We really need 5 minute charging times to make these vehicles sell. They don't have to fully charge in 5 minutes, but at least give me 50 miles of range in that time. . Actually, you do need to be able to get a full charge in 5 minutes. Imagine taking a cross country trip in your car. Imagine driving to visit relatives. |
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Posted: 5/13/2021 10:57:33 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was going by the Tesla chart which seems to pull 80% of the breaker. I figured if I put one in I might as well max it out if possible. 60a maxes at 48a, 40a@32A, 20@16, 15@12. https://www.tesla.com/support/home-charging-installation/wall-connector I think i'm going to put a down payment on a Cybertruck tomorrow. My wife will hate it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We only have a 40a breaker for the charger here. Realistically, it only pulls around 15. https://www.tesla.com/support/home-charging-installation/wall-connector I think i'm going to put a down payment on a Cybertruck tomorrow. My wife will hate it.  I can't speak intelligently to the Tesla numbers... I'm a VAG guy. But the 15a is plenty good for a "plug in overnight once a week and never think about gas stations again" solution. That said, the more you want to overbuild the better. This country NEEDS a massive electrical overhaul, may as well take it one step at a time. ... I would LOVE a true 800V infrastructure for the Taycan at the house... or even one of the Electrify America fast chargers. But I recognize the difficulty there. |
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Posted: 5/13/2021 10:59:03 AM EST
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Actually, you do need to be able to get a full charge in 5 minutes. Imagine taking a cross country trip in your car. Imagine driving to visit relatives. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We really need 5 minute charging times to make these vehicles sell. They don't have to fully charge in 5 minutes, but at least give me 50 miles of range in that time. . Actually, you do need to be able to get a full charge in 5 minutes. Imagine taking a cross country trip in your car. Imagine driving to visit relatives. ... Should I break the news to my mom I didn't actually get to see her on Mother's day? Or do you want to do it. 
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Posted: 5/13/2021 10:59:30 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Then why this stuff people are telling me you can't expect easy charging in below freezing temps. I am going have to research this one. Because you and they are diametrically opposed it seems. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yeah, it's not like that. We just moved but our last home had an uninsulated and unheated garage. Never had a problem with the Tesla in the winter even below zero F. Then why this stuff people are telling me you can't expect easy charging in below freezing temps. I am going have to research this one. Because you and they are diametrically opposed it seems. I own an EV, they don't. That's the only possible explanation. People who have never driven one in their lives seem to have all sorts of opinions on what that the challenges are going to be and you'll see that in this thread. Don't get me wrong, I might not own one in the Fairbanks, Alaska but in Michigan or any climate like it, it's totally good to go. |
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Posted: 5/13/2021 11:02:01 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was going by the Tesla chart which seems to pull 80% of the breaker. I figured if I put one in I might as well max it out if possible. 60a maxes at 48a, 40a@32A, 20@16, 15@12. https://www.tesla.com/support/home-charging-installation/wall-connector I think i'm going to put a down payment on a Cybertruck tomorrow. My wife will hate it. If you get a Cybertruck, make sure to turn it into a Cybertechnical:  
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Posted: 5/13/2021 11:05:53 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you get a Cybertruck, make sure to turn it into a Cybertechnical: https://static.tweaktown.com/news/6/9/69304_01_here-best-mods-attachments-tesla-cybertruck_full.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I was going by the Tesla chart which seems to pull 80% of the breaker. I figured if I put one in I might as well max it out if possible. 60a maxes at 48a, 40a@32A, 20@16, 15@12. https://www.tesla.com/support/home-charging-installation/wall-connector I think i'm going to put a down payment on a Cybertruck tomorrow. My wife will hate it. If you get a Cybertruck, make sure to turn it into a Cybertechnical: https://static.tweaktown.com/news/6/9/69304_01_here-best-mods-attachments-tesla-cybertruck_full.jpg My partner might actually pee on herself if I showed up in that truck. She masturbates to P40 Warhawks. But man... I just hate that so much.  I hope the Cybertruck outsells Toyota Camery's... but I just don't like it. We all have our mental blocks.
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Posted: 5/13/2021 11:06:28 AM EST
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I own an EV, they don't. That's the only possible explanation. People who have never driven one in their lives seem to have all sorts of opinions on what that the challenges are going to be and you'll see that in this thread. Don't get me wrong, I might not own one in the Fairbanks, Alaska but in Michigan or any climate like it, it's totally good to go. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yeah, it's not like that. We just moved but our last home had an uninsulated and unheated garage. Never had a problem with the Tesla in the winter even below zero F. Then why this stuff people are telling me you can't expect easy charging in below freezing temps. I am going have to research this one. Because you and they are diametrically opposed it seems. I own an EV, they don't. That's the only possible explanation. People who have never driven one in their lives seem to have all sorts of opinions on what that the challenges are going to be and you'll see that in this thread. Don't get me wrong, I might not own one in the Fairbanks, Alaska but in Michigan or any climate like it, it's totally good to go. |
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Posted: 5/13/2021 11:08:39 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My partner might actually pee on herself if I showed up in that truck. She masturbates to P40 Warhawks. But man... I just hate that so much. I hope the Cybertruck outsells Toyota Camery's... but I just don't like it. We all have our mental blocks. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I was going by the Tesla chart which seems to pull 80% of the breaker. I figured if I put one in I might as well max it out if possible. 60a maxes at 48a, 40a@32A, 20@16, 15@12. https://www.tesla.com/support/home-charging-installation/wall-connector I think i'm going to put a down payment on a Cybertruck tomorrow. My wife will hate it. If you get a Cybertruck, make sure to turn it into a Cybertechnical: https://static.tweaktown.com/news/6/9/69304_01_here-best-mods-attachments-tesla-cybertruck_full.jpg My partner might actually pee on herself if I showed up in that truck. She masturbates to P40 Warhawks. But man... I just hate that so much. I hope the Cybertruck outsells Toyota Camery's... but I just don't like it. We all have our mental blocks. |
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Posted: 5/13/2021 11:14:08 AM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Nice. I've thought about pre-emptively putting in a 60a breaker in my house since at some point i'll be getting an EV. I only have 100a service. I gotta see if I can do it without having to throw in a 200a service. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I mentioned this in the Porsche thread... but just another data point of "electric cars work fine on road trips if you put about 30 seconds of forethought in to it". Drove from Arlington to my parents farm in WV. Left the house fully-charged, stopped in Staunton, VA (half way point) at the Walmart there. Plugged in at 46% battery. Walked to Dunkin Donuts to grab a cup of coffee and an avocado toast (true story )... was at 96% ~20 mins later when we got back to the car. Hopped back on the road and drove the rest of the way and plugged in my dad's workshop. ... On the way home Monday, I did the same in reverse. So basically, a ~600 mi round trip and spent LESS time standing around doing nothing than if I had been using an ICE car. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/138374/20210507_185749-1933528.jpg Not being a dick with those questions just genuinely curious because I like the car :). Yep, 250 at the house in WV. My dad was career mechanic and likes to over-engineer things. So the garage was already wired for it for his air compresser / drill press / miter saw, etc. ... That said, having a plug installed is very easy. I'm not going to say what you can do on 100a service because I'm not an electrician but I will tell you that while 60a is great, it's far from necessary. In the vast majority of cases, you just need enough power to fully charge in the time you are parked for the night. Even 20a/240v would get that done to be perfectly honest. A Model 3 picks up 15 miles of charge per hour at 20a/240v which is going to be 150-210 miles in an overnight give or take. My wife did it on 15a/120v for months before we moved and she managed without ever having to hit a supercharger. We have 50a/240v right now and it's usually done charging in a couple hours. Part of that due to the fact that it's rare to pull in at the end of the day anywhere close to 0%. I know some serious road warriors put down hundreds of miles per day but an average person might be more like 30-60 miles. You know you, so you can ask yourself that question. |
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Posted: 5/13/2021 11:14:16 AM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Same here, actually. Two things changed that circa 2016: -A ride in a ludicrous Model S -Lithium-Ion battery cost curve chart My opinion on them went from "Dumb, lol" to "Interesting, but niche" to "ICE is doomed..." Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I used to be RABIDLY anti-EV. Until one day I wasn't. Same here, actually. Two things changed that circa 2016: -A ride in a ludicrous Model S -Lithium-Ion battery cost curve chart My opinion on them went from "Dumb, lol" to "Interesting, but niche" to "ICE is doomed..." Most people's perception of electric cars is those dumbass little "smart cars" that aren't much bigger than shopping carts. For everyone I know, the only thing needed to change their minds about EVs is to test drive them. Once. They might not buy one, but they never again say they're a scam. |
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Posted: 5/13/2021 11:14:44 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just @'d you. Lol. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I mentioned this in the Porsche thread... but just another data point of "electric cars work fine on road trips if you put about 30 seconds of forethought in to it". Drove from Arlington to my parents farm in WV. Left the house fully-charged, stopped in Staunton, VA (half way point) at the Walmart there. Plugged in at 46% battery. Walked to Dunkin Donuts to grab a cup of coffee and an avocado toast (true story )... was at 96% ~20 mins later when we got back to the car. Hopped back on the road and drove the rest of the way and plugged in my dad's workshop. ... On the way home Monday, I did the same in reverse. So basically, a ~600 mi round trip and spent LESS time standing around doing nothing than if I had been using an ICE car. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/138374/20210507_185749-1933528.jpg Not being a dick with those questions just genuinely curious because I like the car :). Yep, 250 at the house in WV. My dad was career mechanic and likes to over-engineer things. So the garage was already wired for it for his air compresser / drill press / miter saw, etc. ... That said, having a plug installed is very easy. Do it. It's so, so much cheaper than tacking one on later. I just @'d you. Lol. Haha I'm surprised you remembered.  You were on a bit of a roll last night.
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Posted: 5/13/2021 11:16:38 AM EST
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Actually, you do need to be able to get a full charge in 5 minutes. Imagine taking a cross country trip in your car. Imagine driving to visit relatives. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We really need 5 minute charging times to make these vehicles sell. They don't have to fully charge in 5 minutes, but at least give me 50 miles of range in that time. . Actually, you do need to be able to get a full charge in 5 minutes. Imagine taking a cross country trip in your car. Imagine driving to visit relatives. Yeah, for the 2 times a year you drive cross country to visit relatives, it'll add up to an extra 2 hours spent at charging stations, rather than having your mom grill you about how you pressed your shirt. Wait, why do we hate EV again? |
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Posted: 5/13/2021 11:17:38 AM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Haha I'm surprised you remembered. You were on a bit of a roll last night.Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I mentioned this in the Porsche thread... but just another data point of "electric cars work fine on road trips if you put about 30 seconds of forethought in to it". Drove from Arlington to my parents farm in WV. Left the house fully-charged, stopped in Staunton, VA (half way point) at the Walmart there. Plugged in at 46% battery. Walked to Dunkin Donuts to grab a cup of coffee and an avocado toast (true story )... was at 96% ~20 mins later when we got back to the car. Hopped back on the road and drove the rest of the way and plugged in my dad's workshop. ... On the way home Monday, I did the same in reverse. So basically, a ~600 mi round trip and spent LESS time standing around doing nothing than if I had been using an ICE car. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/138374/20210507_185749-1933528.jpg Not being a dick with those questions just genuinely curious because I like the car :). Yep, 250 at the house in WV. My dad was career mechanic and likes to over-engineer things. So the garage was already wired for it for his air compresser / drill press / miter saw, etc. ... That said, having a plug installed is very easy. Do it. It's so, so much cheaper than tacking one on later. I just @'d you. Lol. Haha I'm surprised you remembered. You were on a bit of a roll last night.It's been a rough week.
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Posted: 5/13/2021 11:19:53 AM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's been a rough week. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I mentioned this in the Porsche thread... but just another data point of "electric cars work fine on road trips if you put about 30 seconds of forethought in to it". Drove from Arlington to my parents farm in WV. Left the house fully-charged, stopped in Staunton, VA (half way point) at the Walmart there. Plugged in at 46% battery. Walked to Dunkin Donuts to grab a cup of coffee and an avocado toast (true story )... was at 96% ~20 mins later when we got back to the car. Hopped back on the road and drove the rest of the way and plugged in my dad's workshop. ... On the way home Monday, I did the same in reverse. So basically, a ~600 mi round trip and spent LESS time standing around doing nothing than if I had been using an ICE car. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/138374/20210507_185749-1933528.jpg Not being a dick with those questions just genuinely curious because I like the car :). Yep, 250 at the house in WV. My dad was career mechanic and likes to over-engineer things. So the garage was already wired for it for his air compresser / drill press / miter saw, etc. ... That said, having a plug installed is very easy. Do it. It's so, so much cheaper than tacking one on later. I just @'d you. Lol. Haha I'm surprised you remembered. You were on a bit of a roll last night.It's been a rough week. Take your girl on a 2 day road trip. Smash repeatedly. It'll get much better. |
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Posted: 5/13/2021 11:22:28 AM EST
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yeah, it's not like that. We just moved but our last home had an uninsulated and unheated garage. Never had a problem with the Tesla in the winter even below zero F. Then why this stuff people are telling me you can't expect easy charging in below freezing temps. I am going have to research this one. Because you and they are diametrically opposed it seems. I own an EV, they don't. That's the only possible explanation. People who have never driven one in their lives seem to have all sorts of opinions on what that the challenges are going to be and you'll see that in this thread. Don't get me wrong, I might not own one in the Fairbanks, Alaska but in Michigan or any climate like it, it's totally good to go. I'm lazy. Can you just tell me the point you are trying to make so I'm not guessing?
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Posted: 5/13/2021 11:29:11 AM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I own an EV, they don't. That's the only possible explanation. People who have never driven one in their lives seem to have all sorts of opinions on what that the challenges are going to be and you'll see that in this thread. Don't get me wrong, I might not own one in the Fairbanks, Alaska but in Michigan or any climate like it, it's totally good to go. Do you use your electric car to vacation in the UP (Houghton, Marquette, Gladstone, Iron Mountain) or N. Ontario (The Soo, Wawa, Sudbury)? That's here my relatives are and where my use of an EV fails. I think... |
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Posted: 5/13/2021 11:33:36 AM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think it's hideous. I'd probably go old school with it and get a vinyl wrap that looks like an airbrush from the 70's panel van craze. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I was going by the Tesla chart which seems to pull 80% of the breaker. I figured if I put one in I might as well max it out if possible. 60a maxes at 48a, 40a@32A, 20@16, 15@12. https://www.tesla.com/support/home-charging-installation/wall-connector I think i'm going to put a down payment on a Cybertruck tomorrow. My wife will hate it. If you get a Cybertruck, make sure to turn it into a Cybertechnical: https://static.tweaktown.com/news/6/9/69304_01_here-best-mods-attachments-tesla-cybertruck_full.jpg My partner might actually pee on herself if I showed up in that truck. She masturbates to P40 Warhawks. But man... I just hate that so much. I hope the Cybertruck outsells Toyota Camery's... but I just don't like it. We all have our mental blocks. 
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Posted: 5/13/2021 11:39:53 AM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you use your electric car to vacation in the UP (Houghton, Marquette, Gladstone, Iron Mountain) or N. Ontario (The Soo, Wawa, Sudbury)? That's here my relatives are and where my use of an EV fails. I think... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I own an EV, they don't. That's the only possible explanation. People who have never driven one in their lives seem to have all sorts of opinions on what that the challenges are going to be and you'll see that in this thread. Don't get me wrong, I might not own one in the Fairbanks, Alaska but in Michigan or any climate like it, it's totally good to go. Do you use your electric car to vacation in the UP (Houghton, Marquette, Gladstone, Iron Mountain) or N. Ontario (The Soo, Wawa, Sudbury)? That's here my relatives are and where my use of an EV fails. I think... Upper part of the LP all the time. I've seen a handful of people who own them year round up there too. Can't speak for the UP though from any personal experience. Tesla says -30C is the lower limit for a full 24 hour cycle but I'm pretty sure that's approaching "Record Low" territory even for the UP. You can plug it in to any old 15amp plug though in those circumstances to warm the battery if it does come up. How many days per year in the UP does the high stay below -30C? Without checking, I'm guessing that's pretty rare. |
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Posted: 5/13/2021 11:40:22 AM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not going to say what you can do on 100a service because I'm not an electrician but I will tell you that while 60a is great, it's far from necessary. In the vast majority of cases, you just need enough power to fully charge in the time you are parked for the night. Even 20a/240v would get that done to be perfectly honest. A Model 3 picks up 15 miles of charge per hour at 20a/240v which is going to be 150-210 miles in an overnight give or take. My wife did it on 15a/120v for months before we moved and she managed without ever having to hit a supercharger. We have 50a/240v right now and it's usually done charging in a couple hours. Part of that due to the fact that it's rare to pull in at the end of the day anywhere close to 0%. I know some serious road warriors put down hundreds of miles per day but an average person might be more like 30-60 miles. You know you, so you can ask yourself that question.
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Posted: 5/13/2021 11:42:09 AM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm lazy. Can you just tell me the point you are trying to make so I'm not guessing?
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Posted: 5/13/2021 11:43:00 AM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I understand but I have a systems engineering background so I tend to scope creep really bad on projects. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm not going to say what you can do on 100a service because I'm not an electrician but I will tell you that while 60a is great, it's far from necessary. In the vast majority of cases, you just need enough power to fully charge in the time you are parked for the night. Even 20a/240v would get that done to be perfectly honest. A Model 3 picks up 15 miles of charge per hour at 20a/240v which is going to be 150-210 miles in an overnight give or take. My wife did it on 15a/120v for months before we moved and she managed without ever having to hit a supercharger. We have 50a/240v right now and it's usually done charging in a couple hours. Part of that due to the fact that it's rare to pull in at the end of the day anywhere close to 0%. I know some serious road warriors put down hundreds of miles per day but an average person might be more like 30-60 miles. You know you, so you can ask yourself that question. I mean. My end game is: "a reactor in every home" and 2000 hp plug-in supercars for everybody.
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Posted: 5/13/2021 11:43:33 AM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: . I'll probably have some unicorns and a wizard in there somehwere too. 
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Posted: 5/13/2021 11:44:42 AM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'll call it something like Musky Mayhem with Elon Musk riding a rocket to mars between his legs sandwiched in between two busty women. . I'll probably have some unicorns and a wizard in there somehwere too. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: . I'll probably have some unicorns and a wizard in there somehwere too. Start a go fund me. I would happily help pay for that.
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Posted: 5/13/2021 11:46:18 AM EST
[#36]
I wonder how many Tesla owners switch back to gas? A tesla is a whole different thing then an EV from traditional bloated car companies
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