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Posted: 6/8/2019 3:43:48 AM EDT
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Somehow they managed to provide power to california for decades. Either global warming is real, or this is the rolling blackouts part of transitioning to a 3rd world country
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Posted: 6/8/2019 3:44:06 AM EDT
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The fire danger will last more than one afternoon. No power till it rains or snows?
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Posted: 6/8/2019 3:45:32 AM EDT
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There's no need. PG&E quit doing preventative maintenance on power lines in the mid 1980's as a cost-cutting measure, so now blackouts are included in their terms of service contracts.
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Posted: 6/8/2019 3:48:04 AM EDT
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Sounds like EMP preparedness drills. California leading the nation.
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Posted: 6/8/2019 3:50:13 AM EDT
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Sounds like EMP preparedness drills. California leading the nation. |
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Posted: 6/8/2019 3:50:35 AM EDT
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What a mess.
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Posted: 6/8/2019 3:51:54 AM EDT
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It's that or the state will sue them out of the existence
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Posted: 6/8/2019 3:53:16 AM EDT
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Somehow they managed to provide power to california for decades. Either global warming is real, or this is the rolling blackouts part of transitioning to a 3rd world country 
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Posted: 6/8/2019 4:02:09 AM EDT
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Somehow they managed to provide power to california for decades. Either global warming is real, or this is the rolling blackouts part of transitioning to a 3rd world country |
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Posted: 6/8/2019 4:05:00 AM EDT
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This shouldn't be a shock to anyone.
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Posted: 6/8/2019 4:05:50 AM EDT
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I wonder what is going to happen when the people get fed up with the power outages and Gov Newsome announces that the State will seize and take over running of the power companies to fix it?
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Posted: 6/8/2019 4:08:18 AM EDT
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The power company was successfully sued for starting fires last year. They are responding to.that |
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Posted: 6/8/2019 4:16:07 AM EDT
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I wonder what is going to happen when the people get fed up with the power outages and Gov Newsome announces that the State will seize and take over running of the power companies to fix it? people will have to try to make due, while sweltering in their homes.... businesses that don't have generators will lose their frozen, and refrigerated foods.... it will cause a backlash that might actually get them to change the forestry regulations.... but likely, california will double down on it and break up pg&e into separate areas, and make them get power from out of state instead of use the existing power lines, driving up cost to consumers |
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Posted: 6/8/2019 4:18:12 AM EDT
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So it's going to be a hot ass weekend and the northern CA people cannot run their AIRcondidtioners because the power will be out. Nice. really nice.
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Posted: 6/8/2019 4:43:52 AM EDT
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what will happen is the sizes of the affected areas will increase, and rolling blackouts will start occuring on high wind days. then, as the weather changes, and you start getting multiple days of high winds, businesses and people in affected areas that could be out of power for days. people will have to try to make due, while sweltering in their homes.... businesses that don't have generators will lose their frozen, and refrigerated foods.... it will cause a backlash that might actually get them to change the forestry regulations.... but likely, california will double down on it and break up pg&e into separate areas, and make them get power from out of state instead of use the existing power lines, driving up cost to consumers |
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Posted: 6/8/2019 5:03:14 AM EDT
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This is the "progress" that "progressives" want.
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Posted: 6/8/2019 5:06:13 AM EDT
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And they say Mississippi is fucked up, lol
California is NPC land in real life |
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Posted: 6/8/2019 5:07:16 AM EDT
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Well let's see. They just got sued into bankruptcy for last year's wildfire.
I think they are just trying to avoid being sued into oblivion. But it will happen. Enjoy your state run Green Energy, Renewable electrical grid, California. |
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Posted: 6/8/2019 5:08:17 AM EDT
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Sue for causing fires, we turn off your power in dry windy conditions. Pretty straightforward outcome.
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Posted: 6/8/2019 5:21:09 AM EDT
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I wonder what is going to happen when the people get fed up with the power outages and Gov Newsome announces that the State will seize and take over running of the power companies to fix it? |
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Posted: 6/8/2019 6:03:40 AM EDT
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I just put in my address and it looks like I won't be affected; that's really great news!
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Posted: 6/8/2019 6:11:34 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/8/2019 6:37:11 AM EDT
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I am sure that plan will work out really well
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Cut some trees down and solve the problem, Hopefully folks will get pissed off and do something about it. |
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Posted: 6/8/2019 7:46:07 AM EDT
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LOL
you cant make this shit up |
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Posted: 6/8/2019 7:54:15 AM EDT
[#25]
@Vacaduck ...
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Posted: 6/8/2019 7:59:30 AM EDT
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Don't like the black-outs?
Thank a California Environmentalist and their lawyers. |
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Posted: 6/8/2019 8:47:18 AM EDT
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Don't like the black-outs? Thank a California Environmentalist and their lawyers. |
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Posted: 6/8/2019 8:58:55 AM EDT
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I wonder what is going to happen when the people get fed up with the power outages and Gov Newsome announces that the State will seize and take over running of the power companies to fix it? Otherwise hide yo' states, hide yo' water 'cause we're Red Dawnin' everyone up in here. |
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Posted: 6/8/2019 9:04:22 AM EDT
[#29]
Sounds like the grid in Bolivia.
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Posted: 6/8/2019 9:04:26 AM EDT
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watch a fire get started by some idiot trying to run a cheap generator for the first time....
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Posted: 6/8/2019 9:06:46 AM EDT
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Good thing they have windmills to replace the loss, wait, those need power lines also. So it will be windy and the windmills will be shut off, got it.
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Posted: 6/8/2019 9:14:08 AM EDT
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what will happen is the sizes of the affected areas will increase, and rolling blackouts will start occuring on high wind days. then, as the weather changes, and you start getting multiple days of high winds, businesses and people in affected areas that could be out of power for days. people will have to try to make due, while sweltering in their homes.... businesses that don't have generators will lose their frozen, and refrigerated foods.... it will cause a backlash that might actually get them to change the forestry regulations.... but likely, california will double down on it and break up pg&e into separate areas, and make them get power from out of state instead of use the existing power lines, driving up cost to consumers Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I wonder what is going to happen when the people get fed up with the power outages and Gov Newsome announces that the State will seize and take over running of the power companies to fix it? people will have to try to make due, while sweltering in their homes.... businesses that don't have generators will lose their frozen, and refrigerated foods.... it will cause a backlash that might actually get them to change the forestry regulations.... but likely, california will double down on it and break up pg&e into separate areas, and make them get power from out of state instead of use the existing power lines, driving up cost to consumers |
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Posted: 6/8/2019 9:15:59 AM EDT
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If we shut down the roads, we can cut car accidents down to zero!
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Posted: 6/8/2019 9:16:14 AM EDT
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Somehow they managed to provide power to california for decades. Either global warming is real, or this is the rolling blackouts part of transitioning to a 3rd world country |
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Posted: 6/8/2019 9:17:07 AM EDT
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twitter people are not happy about this.
Laughs in American. |
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Posted: 6/8/2019 9:17:20 AM EDT
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Hell it is not even summer yet!
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Posted: 6/8/2019 9:18:39 AM EDT
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California deserves everything it gets.
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Posted: 6/8/2019 9:22:03 AM EDT
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Sounds like EMP preparedness drills. California leading the nation. No guns = less violence. Wrong. People will find plenty of ways to kill each other when SHTF. |
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Posted: 6/8/2019 9:25:08 AM EDT
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The power company was successfully sued for starting fires last year. They are responding to.that Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Somehow they managed to provide power to california for decades. Either global warming is real, or this is the rolling blackouts part of transitioning to a 3rd world country Tough situation for them to be in. |
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Posted: 6/8/2019 9:27:16 AM EDT
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California should outlaw owning a home generator to prevent pollution and global warming from the thousands of them running during the power out.
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Posted: 6/8/2019 9:29:50 AM EDT
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As I gaze out my window lovingly at my propane powered Generac...
And think about the portable tri-fuel Honda gensets in the garage...  clown horn - sound effect I do feel sorry for the old and sick who will have to suffer through this. Will PG&E get sued again if someone dies in their home from the heat? What if someone burns down their home with a portable generator? |
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Posted: 6/8/2019 9:33:23 AM EDT
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I wonder what is going to happen when the people get fed up with the power outages and Gov Newsome announces that the State will seize and take over running of the power companies to fix it? |
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Posted: 6/8/2019 9:34:00 AM EDT
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because the state won't allow cutting of corridors around powerlines to prevent or lessen the chance of fires..... ...this is what happens when people don't allow clearing and cutting in forest, yet blame the utility for the fires that result Utilities are permitted by federal law to trim trees, shrubs, etc. in the vicinity of power transmission lines on both private and public lands. California state law requires it. (Several years ago SDG&E took out a LARGE Mexican fan palm that my ex-wife brilliantly planted right under a 12 KV line in front of my house. I paid nothing.) The problem is that it's very expensive to maintain adequate clearance in densely forested areas. The California Public Utilities Commission has to approve plans to improve fire safety. PG&E and others haven't spent the money, they've been dragging their feet, and there is some controversy about where the money would come from. The blackout plan is a cheap kludge to avoid liability until a workable plan to trim vegetation can be worked out and implemented. https://www.cpuc.ca.gov/General.aspx?id=1974 https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/07/business/energy-environment/pge-wildfire-plan-blackouts.html |
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Posted: 6/8/2019 9:34:39 AM EDT
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*bumps t-stat down another notch and orders some 30rd Pmags from PSA
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Posted: 6/8/2019 9:34:54 AM EDT
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Doesn't a majority of CA's power already originate out of state? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I wonder what is going to happen when the people get fed up with the power outages and Gov Newsome announces that the State will seize and take over running of the power companies to fix it? people will have to try to make due, while sweltering in their homes.... businesses that don't have generators will lose their frozen, and refrigerated foods.... it will cause a backlash that might actually get them to change the forestry regulations.... but likely, california will double down on it and break up pg&e into separate areas, and make them get power from out of state instead of use the existing power lines, driving up cost to consumers |
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Posted: 6/8/2019 9:37:27 AM EDT
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Green New Deal gonna fix all this shit. Honest.
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Posted: 6/8/2019 9:41:12 AM EDT
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I just put in my address and it looks like I won't be affected; that's really great news! But, i used to live in CA 20+ years ago, and the area i lived in will be affected. If i know my ex FIL, he has a generator or two and the trailer ready. |
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Posted: 6/8/2019 9:43:48 AM EDT
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There's no need. PG&E quit doing preventative maintenance on power lines in the mid 1980's as a cost-cutting measure, so now blackouts are included in their terms of service contracts. https://www.vox.com/2018/9/1/17800358/california-mendocino-wildfire-dead-trees |
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Posted: 6/8/2019 9:46:09 AM EDT
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OP's editorialization is baloney. The cited article says NOTHING about the state not allowing trees to be trimmed. The situation has nothing to do with California environmental protection laws. Utilities are permitted by federal law to trim trees, shrubs, etc. in the vicinity of power transmission lines on both private and public lands. California state law requires it. (Several years ago SDG&E took out a LARGE Mexican fan palm that my ex-wife brilliantly planted right under a 12 KV line in front of my house. I paid nothing.) The problem is that it's very expensive to maintain adequate clearance in densely forested areas. The California Public Utilities Commission has to approve plans to improve fire safety. PG&E and others haven't spent the money, they've been dragging their feet, and there is some controversy about where the money would come from. The blackout plan is a cheap kludge to avoid liability until a workable plan to trim vegetation can be worked out and implemented. https://www.cpuc.ca.gov/General.aspx?id=1974 https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/07/business/energy-environment/pge-wildfire-plan-blackouts.html |
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Posted: 6/8/2019 9:47:20 AM EDT
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