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11/1/2023 6:44:26 PM EDT
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Meh.

Now if they did a 633 DOE clone upper...

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I got the chance to shoot an F/A Colt smg awhile back........and honestly I liked it as much as I did the MP5 I shot the same day
11/1/2023 6:45:00 PM EDT
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Where’s the Krink???
11/1/2023 6:45:33 PM EDT
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Where’s the Krink???
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11/1/2023 6:45:37 PM EDT
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The important question here is if they are simply reusing an A1 upper drilled for the gastube or if it's undrilled...
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In for just that upper.

Does anyone else currently make one?

I have an Oly project gathering dust.
11/1/2023 6:45:47 PM EDT
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A century gun? No thanks rather buy american. Ptr's are nice but still $1300+, I'd rather buy a PSA its a good company.
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How about a Zenith import ? Those were good.
11/1/2023 6:46:05 PM EDT
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Does it take FAMAS mags?
11/1/2023 6:47:19 PM EDT
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A century gun? No thanks rather buy american. Ptr's are nice but still $1300+, I'd rather buy a PSA its a good company.
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US made roller locks and AKs tend to be of lesser quality than imported ones.
11/1/2023 6:53:26 PM EDT
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Meh.

The only thing PSA needs to drop is a 5.7 carbine that uses Rock mags.

BTW the PSA Rock is awesome. Get one.
11/1/2023 7:01:42 PM EDT
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You're right, screw an $800 gun made to HK specs on HK tooling by HK-trained operators.  Murrica!
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A century gun? No thanks rather buy american. Ptr's are nice but still $1300+, I'd rather buy a PSA its a good company.


You're right, screw an $800 gun made to HK specs on HK tooling by HK-trained operators.  Murrica!


They are most certainly not made to HK specs or by HK trained operators. See my MKE AP5-P thread in HK tech forums for evidence.
11/1/2023 7:02:00 PM EDT
[#11]
Looks nice
11/1/2023 7:02:52 PM EDT
[#12]
These will be available right after the Krink I’ve been waiting for

aka nevarrrrr
11/1/2023 7:05:06 PM EDT
[#13]
I’m good with it
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11/1/2023 7:05:19 PM EDT
[#14]
Interested in a 10.5 in 45ACP.
11/1/2023 7:06:37 PM EDT
[#15]
Make it in 10mm and you've got a deal!
11/1/2023 7:07:57 PM EDT
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11/1/2023 7:08:37 PM EDT
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You're right, screw an $800 gun made to HK specs on HK tooling by HK-trained operators.  Murrica!
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Mostly false.

The original tooling was provided by HK in the 1970s, but who knows how long that lasted. If the operators were trained by HK, they would have retired long ago. As for HK specs, lol. Measure the bolt gap of an MKE. They’re all over the place. They are useful for practicing clearing jams on your Genuine HK. The people asking for a cheap MP5 are justified, as all the clones are trash.
11/1/2023 7:09:24 PM EDT
[#18]
Will it have concentric threads?

11/1/2023 7:10:19 PM EDT
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A century gun? No thanks rather buy american. Ptr's are nice but still $1300+, I'd rather buy a PSA its a good company.
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They're MKE guns imported by Century
11/1/2023 7:10:28 PM EDT
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What is up with the barrel end? Does not look original, and I hate the PSA shiney barrels.

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Other gripe is the mag well inserts are not pinned.

Would only buy this if it were less than $800
11/1/2023 7:17:05 PM EDT
[#21]
A1 upper with A2 FH?
11/1/2023 7:24:29 PM EDT
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On my short list of hen the AWB gets overturned.
11/1/2023 7:26:39 PM EDT
[#23]
is that Colt style magazine lower ?
11/1/2023 7:28:27 PM EDT
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But.....why?
H&R gun. Part of the retro line

This.  It's an H&R, not PSA.

Tomato potato

Nope.  Mike holds h&r to a higher standard and fit.
11/1/2023 10:27:27 PM EDT
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How does 9mm do in longer barrels?
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It picks up a little speed. I forget how much from some YouTube testers I’ve watched. I want to say 100-200 FPS but I’m not sure. I have a couple 9mm ARs I routinely shoot and hit steel 9” targets out to 75 yards and it smacks them pretty hard. I don’t notice a lot of difference from a 6” barrel to a 16” from casual observation.

That said, I love my 9mm AR rifles. They are very fun and very reliable.

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DPMS lower, Olympic Arms 16” barrel on a Colt upper I put together from parts with a Hahn block Colt mag adapter from Brownell’s I built years ago.
11/1/2023 10:35:33 PM EDT
[#26]
make a dpm or mg42 please
11/1/2023 10:41:12 PM EDT
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Meh.

Now if they did a 633 DOE clone upper...

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+1 for Mr Boombastic
11/1/2023 10:43:05 PM EDT
[#28]
They know how to spend my money...
11/1/2023 10:43:17 PM EDT
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Not an MP5
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Not an MP5


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Pointless. Dumb. unorthodox


This
11/1/2023 10:44:15 PM EDT
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Not an MP5
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With MKE, who wants or needs a PSA5
11/1/2023 10:44:27 PM EDT
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It’s just too bad blow back 9mm are disappointing suppressed.  Still buying a 10.5” upper.
11/1/2023 10:44:39 PM EDT
[#32]
Gross
11/1/2023 10:49:30 PM EDT
[#33]
I like it. I’ve got a real interest in PCC’s lately.
11/1/2023 10:51:02 PM EDT
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11/1/2023 10:56:12 PM EDT
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Not an MP5
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11/1/2023 10:57:10 PM EDT
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No DOE carbine no care
11/1/2023 10:57:29 PM EDT
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Looks nice. If it isn't 90% clone correct it would be meh though. Their regular flat top 9mm that take Colt mags seem nice for those that aren't into the clone stuff and just want a 9mm AR. Can you put a PSA 9mm lower onto a CMMG 9mm upper? Those are suppose to shoot softer. I know they make 9mm Colt lowers as well, but PSA is probably cheaper for those.

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You can get an MP5 for under a grand from Atlantic Firearms. PSA is not going to sell them cheaoer than that anyway. Give up on that notion. Its not happening.
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Not an MP5


You can get an MP5 for under a grand from Atlantic Firearms. PSA is not going to sell them cheaoer than that anyway. Give up on that notion. Its not happening.


Besides, the MP5 they were teasing looked like a "modernized" MP5 and not a proper clone. If you're going to modernize it, just get an MPX or B&T.
11/1/2023 11:00:03 PM EDT
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You're right, screw an $800 gun made to HK specs on HK tooling by HK-trained operators.  Murrica!
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A century gun? No thanks rather buy american. Ptr's are nice but still $1300+, I'd rather buy a PSA its a good company.


You're right, screw an $800 gun made to HK specs on HK tooling by HK-trained operators.  Murrica!


11/1/2023 11:02:58 PM EDT
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Will it take a forced reset trigger?  If so, I'm VERY interested.
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Coworker did up a Colt 635 copy. FRT works great in his. Made us laugh our asses off.
11/1/2023 11:16:41 PM EDT
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Meh.

Now if they did a 633 DOE clone upper...

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I have a SBR Colt pattern lower, I would certainly buy a DOE style upper if they made it.
11/1/2023 11:38:50 PM EDT
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Micro Dagger will be in stock?
11/2/2023 12:15:48 AM EDT
[#42]
bonus points if they trademark it: PSA_MP5
11/2/2023 12:18:14 AM EDT
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May not be an MP5, but I think the DOE-style guns are up there in sex appeal.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/6163/DOE2_jpg-3012460.JPG

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Not an MP5


I shot the full-auto Colt 9mm SMG back in the early 90s, right alongside several MP5s.  It's a solid competitor; but way less sexy of course.


May not be an MP5, but I think the DOE-style guns are up there in sex appeal.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/6163/DOE2_jpg-3012460.JPG

I'd love to see a pistol version of this released.
11/2/2023 12:21:31 AM EDT
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My brother used a Colt 9mm when he was on the SWAT team for a local PD just outside of San Diego.
11/2/2023 12:41:21 AM EDT
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Can't get the G43 clone promised weekly  for 16 months.

No care on PSA anymore.
11/2/2023 8:04:38 AM EDT
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What is up with the barrel end? Does not look original, and I hate the PSA shiney barrels.

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Other gripe is the mag well inserts are not pinned.

Would only buy this if it were less than $800
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John Thomas over at https://retroarmsworks.com/ can drill the mag on holes and put in short pieces of roll pin and it will look original.
11/2/2023 8:09:07 AM EDT
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And an A1 at that?
I guess if you’re into retro it’s a cool concept.
Really going to aggravate the red dot crowd.
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Fucking carry handle height mounts are all the rage now, bro.
11/2/2023 8:15:26 AM EDT
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Mostly false.

The original tooling was provided by HK in the 1970s, but who knows how long that lasted. If the operators were trained by HK, they would have retired long ago. As for HK specs, lol. Measure the bolt gap of an MKE. They’re all over the place. They are useful for practicing clearing jams on your Genuine HK. The people asking for a cheap MP5 are justified, as all the clones are trash.
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You're right, screw an $800 gun made to HK specs on HK tooling by HK-trained operators.  Murrica!

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Mostly false.

The original tooling was provided by HK in the 1970s, but who knows how long that lasted. If the operators were trained by HK, they would have retired long ago. As for HK specs, lol. Measure the bolt gap of an MKE. They’re all over the place. They are useful for practicing clearing jams on your Genuine HK. The people asking for a cheap MP5 are justified, as all the clones are trash.


No. They are not trash. I was president of an NFA import company from the late 1990s through early 2000s and we had over 80 MKE MP5s out of bond from a big import buy from the late 1980s. We used one for a range gun and shot the piss out of it and a couple more - they ran great. I shot at least 5,000 rounds through one of them and no idea how many through other ones. We were also HK's largest dealer for NFA parts and we did HK repairs. Years later when I had my own import company, I had a POF MP5 - shot it a lot as well, never remember a jam. HK MP5s feel smoother when you rack the bolt and the finish was better than the MKE or POF guns, but as far as performance, I never saw any difference.
11/2/2023 8:17:32 AM EDT
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You can get an MP5 for under a grand from Atlantic Firearms. PSA is not going to sell them cheaoer than that anyway. Give up on that notion. Its not happening.
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But, but, how can they make the same piece-of-repeating-shit comment on every thread for months if that happens?

These people don't exactly have anything intelligent or worthwhile to say you know.

You're taking away all they have.

11/2/2023 8:20:59 AM EDT
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