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Posted: 8/12/2018 8:05:08 PM EST

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He won't be able to get a good seal on a gasmask with that untactical goatee!

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The 90s called and they want the goatee back...

Posted: 8/12/2018 8:05:39 PM EST

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Is that guy on the juice?

Maybe it's made him a little soft in the head, you know?

Posted: 8/12/2018 8:07:09 PM EST

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Care to take a guess at how many people have successfully defended themselves and or property with literally none of the learned skills you claim to be necessary to do just that?

I get your point, but it's not a matter of absolutism like you're claiming.

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Pat "Gunban" McNamara?

Never heard of her.

To be fair, he is more popular with more experienced shooters and BTDT types.

So it's not surprising for many to not know the name.

Soory..... it's just that my motivation to keep and bear arms doesn't manifest itself as some need to give a shit what some guy I've never met says or thinks. I guess he has many devout followers, and that's great.......but, I don't like the way he talks..... or his apparent expectation of unearned respect and clout from anonymous and unfamiliar strangers on the internet.

Just seems a bit needy?

But hey, I'm not a "serious trigger puller" nor do I spend my time criticizing internet firearms personalities about how they dance and sing.

It's cool, I'm sure you'll do a great job keeping and bearing arms from Ft Couch when it's time to do gangster shit.
Cause if you actually DID have motivation to keep and bear arms, Pat Mac is one of the top guys in the country that teaches how to bear them, which after the ballot box, is the last box to keep them.

I'll be the first to preclude myself from "gangster shit", though I'm confident I can secure my home and my property.
Symmetrical warfare, door kicking, open demonstrations of force...... Not likely to be "a thing" like in some peoples masturbatory fantasies.

If you don't have the fundamentals to conduct "Symmetrical warfare, door kicking, open demonstrations of force" you don't have them to secure your home and property. It's all the same fundamentals and mentality.

You might be confident, but does that translate into being capable? For a LOT of people, those that haven't jumped in on the boon of modern training, and techniques made available since the early 2000's, that's probably a not really.

Care to take a guess at how many people have successfully defended themselves and or property with literally none of the learned skills you claim to be necessary to do just that?

I get your point, but it's not a matter of absolutism like you're claiming.

As many as have died from not having them -1.

So what's the right number?

Posted: 8/12/2018 8:07:10 PM EST

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I read the quoted article.
It sounds like he was refer to GD. That explains why the hate.

Posted: 8/12/2018 8:10:29 PM EST

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Geez, here we go again with that all or nothing mentality. To be certain, the first words of 2A are 'A well regulated militia',
3 day waiting periods and background checks are a part of those regulations. Part of what PatMac teaches, if you have ever
even bothered to check, is that developing a skill takes a certain amount of repitition and practice, regardless of how fast you
learn, or how capable you think you are, or, in the case of the 'comedy video, aren't.'

Background checks are a necessary evil in today's society. Like it or not. So are handgun waiting periods. Don't like it?
Get a weapon's permit. Practice so that you will know how to, and can, if you ever need to, like it actually says we should
be doing.

Work on defensive skills, not things you probably won't be doing. Nothing these guys are teaching says that we will
be rolling out or kicking in doors. We will be defending ourselves, or a critical infrastructure of some kind, or holding a line.

Wanna be a high speed guy? Go enlist, and do it for real, like they did. We don't rise to the level of our expectations, we sink
to the level of our training.

Patmac is anything but anti 2A. People like to start crap when there isn't any crap to start. He's just as entitled to his opinion
about how to do this as you are yours.

http://www.hale75alumni.org/images_hale/are_you_lost.jpg

LOL you and everyone else jumping his shit for posting that, but bet you put up with background checks and waiting periods just like everyone else.

if you are so pro-2A why not sell your guns to felons with no background check?

Posted: 8/12/2018 8:15:53 PM EST

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LOL you and everyone else jumping his shit for posting that, but bet you put up with background checks and waiting periods just like everyone else.

if you are so pro-2A why not sell your guns to felons with no background check?

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Geez, here we go again with that all or nothing mentality. To be certain, the first words of 2A are 'A well regulated militia',
3 day waiting periods and background checks are a part of those regulations. Part of what PatMac teaches, if you have ever
even bothered to check, is that developing a skill takes a certain amount of repitition and practice, regardless of how fast you
learn, or how capable you think you are, or, in the case of the 'comedy video, aren't.'

Background checks are a necessary evil in today's society. Like it or not. So are handgun waiting periods. Don't like it?
Get a weapon's permit. Practice so that you will know how to, and can, if you ever need to, like it actually says we should
be doing.

Work on defensive skills, not things you probably won't be doing. Nothing these guys are teaching says that we will
be rolling out or kicking in doors. We will be defending ourselves, or a critical infrastructure of some kind, or holding a line.

Wanna be a high speed guy? Go enlist, and do it for real, like they did. We don't rise to the level of our expectations, we sink
to the level of our training.

Patmac is anything but anti 2A. People like to start crap when there isn't any crap to start. He's just as entitled to his opinion
about how to do this as you are yours.

http://www.hale75alumni.org/images_hale/are_you_lost.jpg

LOL you and everyone else jumping his shit for posting that, but bet you put up with background checks and waiting periods just like everyone else.

if you are so pro-2A why not sell your guns to felons with no background check?

Posted: 8/12/2018 8:17:07 PM EST

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Geez, here we go again with that all or nothing mentality. To be certain, the first words of 2A are 'A well regulated militia',
3 day waiting periods and background checks are a part of those regulations. Part of what PatMac teaches, if you have ever
even bothered to check, is that developing a skill takes a certain amount of repitition and practice, regardless of how fast you
learn, or how capable you think you are, or, in the case of the 'comedy video, aren't.'

Background checks are a necessary evil in today's society. Like it or not. So are handgun waiting periods. Don't like it?
Get a weapon's permit. Practice so that you will know how to, and can, if you ever need to, like it actually says we should
be doing.

Work on defensive skills, not things you probably won't be doing. Nothing these guys are teaching says that we will
be rolling out or kicking in doors. We will be defending ourselves, or a critical infrastructure of some kind, or holding a line.

Wanna be a high speed guy? Go enlist, and do it for real, like they did. We don't rise to the level of our expectations, we sink
to the level of our training.

Patmac is anything but anti 2A. People like to start crap when there isn't any crap to start. He's just as entitled to his opinion
about how to do this as you are yours.

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PatMac, that you?

Posted: 8/12/2018 8:17:35 PM EST

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LOL you and everyone else jumping his shit for posting that, but bet you put up with background checks and waiting periods just like everyone else.

if you are so pro-2A why not sell your guns to felons with no background check?

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Geez, here we go again with that all or nothing mentality. To be certain, the first words of 2A are 'A well regulated militia',
3 day waiting periods and background checks are a part of those regulations. Part of what PatMac teaches, if you have ever
even bothered to check, is that developing a skill takes a certain amount of repitition and practice, regardless of how fast you
learn, or how capable you think you are, or, in the case of the 'comedy video, aren't.'

Background checks are a necessary evil in today's society. Like it or not. So are handgun waiting periods. Don't like it?
Get a weapon's permit. Practice so that you will know how to, and can, if you ever need to, like it actually says we should
be doing.

Work on defensive skills, not things you probably won't be doing. Nothing these guys are teaching says that we will
be rolling out or kicking in doors. We will be defending ourselves, or a critical infrastructure of some kind, or holding a line.

Wanna be a high speed guy? Go enlist, and do it for real, like they did. We don't rise to the level of our expectations, we sink
to the level of our training.

Patmac is anything but anti 2A. People like to start crap when there isn't any crap to start. He's just as entitled to his opinion
about how to do this as you are yours.

http://www.hale75alumni.org/images_hale/are_you_lost.jpg

LOL you and everyone else jumping his shit for posting that, but bet you put up with background checks and waiting periods just like everyone else.

if you are so pro-2A why not sell your guns to felons with no background check?

What the fuck?

Posted: 8/12/2018 8:20:02 PM EST

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If more boomers on the right and the NRA wouldn't have sold us out in the 80's and 90's, waiting periods might not even BE a talking point now.

Watching people here now, safe on the internet harp on something they very well could have been complacent in allowing to come to bloom is equal parts funny and sad.

"I'm buthurt that a guy said a thing"

flash back to the 80's and 90's

"If we compromise with the democrats on a thing, it will save us a different thing hopefully"

Fuckin' great job!

Posted: 8/12/2018 8:20:37 PM EST

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LOL you and everyone else jumping his shit for posting that, but bet you put up with background checks and waiting periods just like everyone else.

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Second stupid post of the day.

Posted: 8/12/2018 8:21:28 PM EST

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If more boomers on the right and the NRA wouldn't have sold us out in the 80's and 90's, waiting periods might not even BE a talking point now.

Watching people here now, safe on the internet harp on something they very well could have been complacent in allowing to come to bloom is equal parts funny and sad.

"I'm buthurt that a guy said a thing"

flash back to the 80's and 90's

"If we compromise with the democrats on a thing, it will save us a different thing hopefully"

Fuckin' great job!

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Well, I guess it's really not too early to be drinking.

You go girl.

Posted: 8/12/2018 8:21:51 PM EST

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If more boomers on the right and the NRA wouldn't have sold us out in the 80's and 90's, waiting periods might not even BE a talking point now.

Watching people here now, safe on the internet harp on something they very well could have been complacent in allowing to come to bloom is equal parts funny and sad.

"I'm buthurt that a guy said a thing"

flash back to the 80's and 90's

"If we compromise with the democrats on a thing, it will save us a different thing hopefully"

Fuckin' great job!

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How many generalisations did it take to make that point?

Posted: 8/12/2018 8:22:50 PM EST

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13 years at CAG and never deploying is something of a record.

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Never deployed? Is that true?

Posted: 8/12/2018 8:23:38 PM EST

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@Stretchman

Your post is the most disturbingly incorrect heap of shit I've read on this site in months.

So please,

"depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."

- Some guy (who obviously wanted background checks and 3 day waiting periods on essential liberty)

Posted: 8/12/2018 8:24:58 PM EST

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LOL you and everyone else jumping his shit for posting that, but bet you put up with background checks and waiting periods just like everyone else.

if you are so pro-2A why not sell your guns to felons with no background check?

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4473s are required so yeah, we all put up with those. Only idiots in ban states have to put up with waiting periods though.

I am pro-2A enough that I never ID anyone in a private sale. Fuck "reasonable restrictions". Background checks and waiting periods are unconstitutional. Anyone that thinks they are "reasonable" is an enemy.

Posted: 8/12/2018 8:25:38 PM EST

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Geez, here we go again with that all or nothing mentality. To be certain, the first words of 2A are 'A well regulated militia',
3 day waiting periods and background checks are a part of those regulations. Part of what PatMac teaches, if you have ever
even bothered to check, is that developing a skill takes a certain amount of repitition and practice, regardless of how fast you
learn, or how capable you think you are, or, in the case of the 'comedy video, aren't.'

Background checks are a necessary evil in today's society. Like it or not. So are handgun waiting periods. Don't like it?
Get a weapon's permit. Practice so that you will know how to, and can, if you ever need to, like it actually says we should
be doing.

Work on defensive skills, not things you probably won't be doing. Nothing these guys are teaching says that we will
be rolling out or kicking in doors. We will be defending ourselves, or a critical infrastructure of some kind, or holding a line.

Wanna be a high speed guy? Go enlist, and do it for real, like they did. We don't rise to the level of our expectations, we sink
to the level of our training.

Patmac is anything but anti 2A. People like to start crap when there isn't any crap to start. He's just as entitled to his opinion
about how to do this as you are yours.

http://www.hale75alumni.org/images_hale/are_you_lost.jpg

LOL you and everyone else jumping his shit for posting that, but bet you put up with background checks and waiting periods just like everyone else.

if you are so pro-2A why not sell your guns to felons with no background check?

What the fuck?

Here I'll break it down to your level.

Bad gun stuff laws are bad and makes pro-2a people have bad feels.

But bad gun stuff is here and people comply with bad gun stuff because they are scared to get caught.

If you really thought bad gun stuff was bad you would not comply with bad gun stuff laws.

Crying about bad gun stuff laws on the internet seeking good feels from other people who helped allow the bad stuff gun laws pass is silly.

There, hope that helped you figure out what the fuck, patriot.

Posted: 8/12/2018 8:25:45 PM EST

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As many as have died from not having them -1.

So what's the right number?

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Pat "Gunban" McNamara?

Never heard of her.

To be fair, he is more popular with more experienced shooters and BTDT types.

So it's not surprising for many to not know the name.

Soory..... it's just that my motivation to keep and bear arms doesn't manifest itself as some need to give a shit what some guy I've never met says or thinks. I guess he has many devout followers, and that's great.......but, I don't like the way he talks..... or his apparent expectation of unearned respect and clout from anonymous and unfamiliar strangers on the internet.

Just seems a bit needy?

But hey, I'm not a "serious trigger puller" nor do I spend my time criticizing internet firearms personalities about how they dance and sing.

It's cool, I'm sure you'll do a great job keeping and bearing arms from Ft Couch when it's time to do gangster shit.
Cause if you actually DID have motivation to keep and bear arms, Pat Mac is one of the top guys in the country that teaches how to bear them, which after the ballot box, is the last box to keep them.

I'll be the first to preclude myself from "gangster shit", though I'm confident I can secure my home and my property.
Symmetrical warfare, door kicking, open demonstrations of force...... Not likely to be "a thing" like in some peoples masturbatory fantasies.

If you don't have the fundamentals to conduct "Symmetrical warfare, door kicking, open demonstrations of force" you don't have them to secure your home and property. It's all the same fundamentals and mentality.

You might be confident, but does that translate into being capable? For a LOT of people, those that haven't jumped in on the boon of modern training, and techniques made available since the early 2000's, that's probably a not really.

Care to take a guess at how many people have successfully defended themselves and or property with literally none of the learned skills you claim to be necessary to do just that?

I get your point, but it's not a matter of absolutism like you're claiming.

As many as have died from not having them -1.

So what's the right number?

Are you suffering from head trauma?

Posted: 8/12/2018 8:25:51 PM EST

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Posted: 8/12/2018 8:27:08 PM EST

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Here I'll break it down to your level.

Bad gun stuff laws are bad and makes pro-2a people have bad feels.

But bad gun stuff is here and people comply with bad gun stuff because they are scared to get caught.

If you really thought bad gun stuff was bad you would not comply with bad gun stuff laws.

Crying about bad gun stuff laws on the internet seeking good feels from other people who helped allow the bad stuff gun laws pass is silly.

There, hope that helped you figure out what the fuck, patriot.

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Makes perfect sense to me.

Im not sure why so many arent understanding. Its pretty basic.

Posted: 8/12/2018 8:27:49 PM EST

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4473s are required so yeah, we all put up with those. Only idiots in ban states have to put up with waiting periods though.

I am pro-2A enough that I never ID anyone in a private sale. Fuck "reasonable restrictions". Background checks and waiting periods are unconstitutional. Anyone that thinks they are "reasonable" is an enemy.

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LOL you and everyone else jumping his shit for posting that, but bet you put up with background checks and waiting periods just like everyone else.

if you are so pro-2A why not sell your guns to felons with no background check?

4473s are required so yeah, we all put up with those. Only idiots in ban states have to put up with waiting periods though.

I am pro-2A enough that I never ID anyone in a private sale. Fuck "reasonable restrictions". Background checks and waiting periods are unconstitutional. Anyone that thinks they are "reasonable" is an enemy.

According to who? The internet or SCOTUS? If they are unconstitutional, it's almost time to start challenging that given the court stacking going on then, right?

Posted: 8/12/2018 8:29:43 PM EST

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Pat "Gunban" McNamara?

Never heard of her.

To be fair, he is more popular with more experienced shooters and BTDT types.

So it's not surprising for many to not know the name.

Soory..... it's just that my motivation to keep and bear arms doesn't manifest itself as some need to give a shit what some guy I've never met says or thinks. I guess he has many devout followers, and that's great.......but, I don't like the way he talks..... or his apparent expectation of unearned respect and clout from anonymous and unfamiliar strangers on the internet.

Just seems a bit needy?

But hey, I'm not a "serious trigger puller" nor do I spend my time criticizing internet firearms personalities about how they dance and sing.

It's cool, I'm sure you'll do a great job keeping and bearing arms from Ft Couch when it's time to do gangster shit.
Cause if you actually DID have motivation to keep and bear arms, Pat Mac is one of the top guys in the country that teaches how to bear them, which after the ballot box, is the last box to keep them.

I'll be the first to preclude myself from "gangster shit", though I'm confident I can secure my home and my property.
Symmetrical warfare, door kicking, open demonstrations of force...... Not likely to be "a thing" like in some peoples masturbatory fantasies.

If you don't have the fundamentals to conduct "Symmetrical warfare, door kicking, open demonstrations of force" you don't have them to secure your home and property. It's all the same fundamentals and mentality.

You might be confident, but does that translate into being capable? For a LOT of people, those that haven't jumped in on the boon of modern training, and techniques made available since the early 2000's, that's probably a not really.

Care to take a guess at how many people have successfully defended themselves and or property with literally none of the learned skills you claim to be necessary to do just that?

I get your point, but it's not a matter of absolutism like you're claiming.

As many as have died from not having them -1.

So what's the right number?

Are you suffering from head trauma?

Hey, you asked me a question, I answered it. If you have the actual number post it up.

Posted: 8/12/2018 8:30:42 PM EST

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Here I'll break it down to your level.

Bad gun stuff laws are bad and makes pro-2a people have bad feels.

But bad gun stuff is here and people comply with bad gun stuff because they are scared to get caught.

If you really thought bad gun stuff was bad you would not comply with bad gun stuff laws.

Crying about bad gun stuff laws on the internet seeking good feels from other people who helped allow the bad stuff gun laws pass is silly.

There, hope that helped you figure out what the fuck, patriot.

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Geez, here we go again with that all or nothing mentality. To be certain, the first words of 2A are 'A well regulated militia',
3 day waiting periods and background checks are a part of those regulations. Part of what PatMac teaches, if you have ever
even bothered to check, is that developing a skill takes a certain amount of repitition and practice, regardless of how fast you
learn, or how capable you think you are, or, in the case of the 'comedy video, aren't.'

Background checks are a necessary evil in today's society. Like it or not. So are handgun waiting periods. Don't like it?
Get a weapon's permit. Practice so that you will know how to, and can, if you ever need to, like it actually says we should
be doing.

Work on defensive skills, not things you probably won't be doing. Nothing these guys are teaching says that we will
be rolling out or kicking in doors. We will be defending ourselves, or a critical infrastructure of some kind, or holding a line.

Wanna be a high speed guy? Go enlist, and do it for real, like they did. We don't rise to the level of our expectations, we sink
to the level of our training.

Patmac is anything but anti 2A. People like to start crap when there isn't any crap to start. He's just as entitled to his opinion
about how to do this as you are yours.

http://www.hale75alumni.org/images_hale/are_you_lost.jpg

LOL you and everyone else jumping his shit for posting that, but bet you put up with background checks and waiting periods just like everyone else.

if you are so pro-2A why not sell your guns to felons with no background check?

What the fuck?

Here I'll break it down to your level.

Bad gun stuff laws are bad and makes pro-2a people have bad feels.

But bad gun stuff is here and people comply with bad gun stuff because they are scared to get caught.

If you really thought bad gun stuff was bad you would not comply with bad gun stuff laws.

Crying about bad gun stuff laws on the internet seeking good feels from other people who helped allow the bad stuff gun laws pass is silly.

There, hope that helped you figure out what the fuck, patriot.

Just so you don't try to change your mind later after the feels wear off, Patriot.

Posted: 8/12/2018 8:30:48 PM EST

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@Stretchman

Your post is the most disturbingly incorrect heap of shit I've read on this site in months.

So please,

"depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."

- Some guy (who obviously wanted background checks and 3 day waiting periods on essential liberty)

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How many tax stamps do you have for NFA items?

How many 4473's have you filled out in your life?

#willnotcomply

Posted: 8/12/2018 8:31:06 PM EST

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Here I'll break it down to your level.

Bad gun stuff laws are bad and makes pro-2a people have bad feels.

But bad gun stuff is here and people comply with bad gun stuff because they are scared to get caught.

If you really thought bad gun stuff was bad you would not comply with bad gun stuff laws.

Crying about bad gun stuff laws on the internet seeking good feels from other people who helped allow the bad stuff gun laws pass is silly.

There, hope that helped you figure out what the fuck, patriot.

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So you're going to post YouTube videos of your unregistered machineguns then you and PatMac are going down together in a hail of gunfire in your Ruby Ridge copy cabin?

That I don't post on arfcom when I'm violating firearms laws means I should back waiting periods?

Posted: 8/12/2018 8:31:07 PM EST

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I dont think what he said on that comedy central thing was good and honestly, his explanation on the podcast was not that convincing.

Having met the guy and taken his class, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he just had a mental fuckup. His class is all about 2A and he's constantly saying that if you are allowed to carry, you should.

I look at him as the crazy Uncle that sometimes says things cringeworthy, but not that he really believes.

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I think he said exactly what he believes & is walking back his comments because they might hurt his bottom line. The "Crazy Uncle" and Bono from U2 sense of style is part of his schtick, in a market that is saturated by macho man ex military firearms instructors you have to stand out.

Posted: 8/12/2018 8:31:34 PM EST

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Here I'll break it down to your level.

Bad gun stuff laws are bad and makes pro-2a people have bad feels.

But bad gun stuff is here and people comply with bad gun stuff because they are scared to get caught.

If you really thought bad gun stuff was bad you would not comply with bad gun stuff laws.

Crying about bad gun stuff laws on the internet seeking good feels from other people who helped allow the bad stuff gun laws pass is silly.

There, hope that helped you figure out what the fuck, patriot.

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Geez, here we go again with that all or nothing mentality. To be certain, the first words of 2A are 'A well regulated militia',
3 day waiting periods and background checks are a part of those regulations. Part of what PatMac teaches, if you have ever
even bothered to check, is that developing a skill takes a certain amount of repitition and practice, regardless of how fast you
learn, or how capable you think you are, or, in the case of the 'comedy video, aren't.'

Background checks are a necessary evil in today's society. Like it or not. So are handgun waiting periods. Don't like it?
Get a weapon's permit. Practice so that you will know how to, and can, if you ever need to, like it actually says we should
be doing.

Work on defensive skills, not things you probably won't be doing. Nothing these guys are teaching says that we will
be rolling out or kicking in doors. We will be defending ourselves, or a critical infrastructure of some kind, or holding a line.

Wanna be a high speed guy? Go enlist, and do it for real, like they did. We don't rise to the level of our expectations, we sink
to the level of our training.

Patmac is anything but anti 2A. People like to start crap when there isn't any crap to start. He's just as entitled to his opinion
about how to do this as you are yours.

http://www.hale75alumni.org/images_hale/are_you_lost.jpg

LOL you and everyone else jumping his shit for posting that, but bet you put up with background checks and waiting periods just like everyone else.

if you are so pro-2A why not sell your guns to felons with no background check?

What the fuck?

Here I'll break it down to your level.

Bad gun stuff laws are bad and makes pro-2a people have bad feels.

But bad gun stuff is here and people comply with bad gun stuff because they are scared to get caught.

If you really thought bad gun stuff was bad you would not comply with bad gun stuff laws.

Crying about bad gun stuff laws on the internet seeking good feels from other people who helped allow the bad stuff gun laws pass is silly.

There, hope that helped you figure out what the fuck, patriot.

Well, have you gone and proven what a patriot you are by selling guns to felons?

No?

Sounds like you're all talk to me.

Posted: 8/12/2018 8:31:53 PM EST

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How many tax stamps do you have for NFA items?

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You wittled all your guns?

Posted: 8/12/2018 8:33:08 PM EST

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He told us a story about an incident in Banja Luka during the Bosnian conflict, so I', guessing it's not true.

Posted: 8/12/2018 8:36:16 PM EST

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I love a good meltdown.

Posted: 8/12/2018 8:37:47 PM EST

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Hey, you asked me a question, I answered it. If you have the actual number post it up.

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Pat "Gunban" McNamara?

Never heard of her.

To be fair, he is more popular with more experienced shooters and BTDT types.

So it's not surprising for many to not know the name.

Soory..... it's just that my motivation to keep and bear arms doesn't manifest itself as some need to give a shit what some guy I've never met says or thinks. I guess he has many devout followers, and that's great.......but, I don't like the way he talks..... or his apparent expectation of unearned respect and clout from anonymous and unfamiliar strangers on the internet.

Just seems a bit needy?

But hey, I'm not a "serious trigger puller" nor do I spend my time criticizing internet firearms personalities about how they dance and sing.

It's cool, I'm sure you'll do a great job keeping and bearing arms from Ft Couch when it's time to do gangster shit.
Cause if you actually DID have motivation to keep and bear arms, Pat Mac is one of the top guys in the country that teaches how to bear them, which after the ballot box, is the last box to keep them.

I'll be the first to preclude myself from "gangster shit", though I'm confident I can secure my home and my property.
Symmetrical warfare, door kicking, open demonstrations of force...... Not likely to be "a thing" like in some peoples masturbatory fantasies.

If you don't have the fundamentals to conduct "Symmetrical warfare, door kicking, open demonstrations of force" you don't have them to secure your home and property. It's all the same fundamentals and mentality.

You might be confident, but does that translate into being capable? For a LOT of people, those that haven't jumped in on the boon of modern training, and techniques made available since the early 2000's, that's probably a not really.

Care to take a guess at how many people have successfully defended themselves and or property with literally none of the learned skills you claim to be necessary to do just that?

I get your point, but it's not a matter of absolutism like you're claiming.

As many as have died from not having them -1.

So what's the right number?

Are you suffering from head trauma?

Hey, you asked me a question, I answered it. If you have the actual number post it up.

Lol.

It was rhetorical.

Because anyone with half a fucking brain realizes that hundreds of millions of people have successful defended themselves with firearms, or other weapons for that matter with absolute minimal training long before consumer grade etraining and gear queer get togethers were ever even dreamt of.

Prehistoric man attended club swinging classes right?

Posted: 8/12/2018 8:39:15 PM EST

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You wittled all your guns?

Just pointing out the irony, again, of people trying to virtue signal over gun laws, when they themselves comply to the same shit they talk shit over.

Posted: 8/12/2018 8:39:30 PM EST

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Here's a video where he talks a little about his military career http://www.recoilweb.com/up-close-with-pat-mcnamara-living-life-to-the-fullest-54655.html

He's my age so he joined the military at the tail end of the Cold War and was running around in Europe then joined Delta Force after the Soviet Union crapped out.

Posted: 8/12/2018 8:40:11 PM EST

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Well, have you gone and proven what a patriot you are by selling guns to felons?

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Sounds like you're all talk to me.

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Geez, here we go again with that all or nothing mentality. To be certain, the first words of 2A are 'A well regulated militia',
3 day waiting periods and background checks are a part of those regulations. Part of what PatMac teaches, if you have ever
even bothered to check, is that developing a skill takes a certain amount of repitition and practice, regardless of how fast you
learn, or how capable you think you are, or, in the case of the 'comedy video, aren't.'

Background checks are a necessary evil in today's society. Like it or not. So are handgun waiting periods. Don't like it?
Get a weapon's permit. Practice so that you will know how to, and can, if you ever need to, like it actually says we should
be doing.

Work on defensive skills, not things you probably won't be doing. Nothing these guys are teaching says that we will
be rolling out or kicking in doors. We will be defending ourselves, or a critical infrastructure of some kind, or holding a line.

Wanna be a high speed guy? Go enlist, and do it for real, like they did. We don't rise to the level of our expectations, we sink
to the level of our training.

Patmac is anything but anti 2A. People like to start crap when there isn't any crap to start. He's just as entitled to his opinion
about how to do this as you are yours.

http://www.hale75alumni.org/images_hale/are_you_lost.jpg

LOL you and everyone else jumping his shit for posting that, but bet you put up with background checks and waiting periods just like everyone else.

if you are so pro-2A why not sell your guns to felons with no background check?

What the fuck?

Here I'll break it down to your level.

Bad gun stuff laws are bad and makes pro-2a people have bad feels.

But bad gun stuff is here and people comply with bad gun stuff because they are scared to get caught.

If you really thought bad gun stuff was bad you would not comply with bad gun stuff laws.

Crying about bad gun stuff laws on the internet seeking good feels from other people who helped allow the bad stuff gun laws pass is silly.

There, hope that helped you figure out what the fuck, patriot.

Well, have you gone and proven what a patriot you are by selling guns to felons?

No?

Sounds like you're all talk to me.

so you're saying that complying with existing laws that have been on the books for decades is OK even if people say they're unconstitutional?

Posted: 8/12/2018 8:40:31 PM EST

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@Stretchman

Your post is the most disturbingly incorrect heap of shit I've read on this site in months.

So please,

"depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."

- Some guy (who obviously wanted background checks and 3 day waiting periods on essential liberty)

How many tax stamps do you have for NFA items?

How many 4473's have you filled out in your life?

#willnotcomply

Yes, because complying with government and it's monopoly of force, must mean that I agree with it, and also foolishly support more of it.

Your absolutist rhetoric is so lame.

Posted: 8/12/2018 8:41:34 PM EST

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"Virtue signal over gun laws" interesting turn of phrase for objecting to waiting periods.

Posted: 8/12/2018 8:41:54 PM EST

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You're moving the goal post in this argument. I see you're a Marine so let me try to break it down to your level without using coloring books and crayons.

We all know on this site that PatMac is a solid pro 2nd A guy. We all know he just had a foot in mouth moment. Same with Tim Kennedy.

In case you haven't noticed, there is an all out push by asshole liberals to strip our 2nd A rights and they have politicians backing them.

When someone with CAG/SF/SEAL background makes a foot in mouth moment (even though WE on here know what he meant) it gives the left more political ammo against us. And the majority of people who are normies to firearms and the 2nd A will take "the Delta Guys" word as gospel because well we look up to our SOCOM men as heroes.

Our beef is that if Pat or whoever is going to put themselves into the limelight, they need to be extra careful about sending the wrong message to the uneducated. This fight for the second A is hard enough and we don't need the uneducated thinking micro-infringments on the 2nd A are OK because some Delta guy said they were OK.

Posted: 8/12/2018 8:42:27 PM EST

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He told us a story about an incident in Banja Luka during the Bosnian conflict, so I', guessing it's not true.

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Never deployed? Is that true?

He told us a story about an incident in Banja Luka during the Bosnian conflict, so I', guessing it's not true.

From what I've heard, a lot of his stuff was in East Germany during the Cold War.
He "retired" in 2005. A lot of CAG guys worked/work with other 3 letter agencies.
At least thats the story around the campfire anyway.

Posted: 8/12/2018 8:42:32 PM EST

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Lol.

It was rhetorical.

Because anyone with half a fucking brain realizes that hundreds of millions of people have successful defended themselves with firearms, or other weapons for that matter with absolute minimal training long before consumer grade etraining and gear queer get togethers were ever even dreamt of.

Prehistoric man attended club swinging classes right?

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Pat "Gunban" McNamara?

Never heard of her.

To be fair, he is more popular with more experienced shooters and BTDT types.

So it's not surprising for many to not know the name.

Soory..... it's just that my motivation to keep and bear arms doesn't manifest itself as some need to give a shit what some guy I've never met says or thinks. I guess he has many devout followers, and that's great.......but, I don't like the way he talks..... or his apparent expectation of unearned respect and clout from anonymous and unfamiliar strangers on the internet.

Just seems a bit needy?

But hey, I'm not a "serious trigger puller" nor do I spend my time criticizing internet firearms personalities about how they dance and sing.

It's cool, I'm sure you'll do a great job keeping and bearing arms from Ft Couch when it's time to do gangster shit.
Cause if you actually DID have motivation to keep and bear arms, Pat Mac is one of the top guys in the country that teaches how to bear them, which after the ballot box, is the last box to keep them.

I'll be the first to preclude myself from "gangster shit", though I'm confident I can secure my home and my property.
Symmetrical warfare, door kicking, open demonstrations of force...... Not likely to be "a thing" like in some peoples masturbatory fantasies.

If you don't have the fundamentals to conduct "Symmetrical warfare, door kicking, open demonstrations of force" you don't have them to secure your home and property. It's all the same fundamentals and mentality.

You might be confident, but does that translate into being capable? For a LOT of people, those that haven't jumped in on the boon of modern training, and techniques made available since the early 2000's, that's probably a not really.

Care to take a guess at how many people have successfully defended themselves and or property with literally none of the learned skills you claim to be necessary to do just that?

I get your point, but it's not a matter of absolutism like you're claiming.

As many as have died from not having them -1.

So what's the right number?

Are you suffering from head trauma?

Hey, you asked me a question, I answered it. If you have the actual number post it up.

Lol.

It was rhetorical.

Because anyone with half a fucking brain realizes that hundreds of millions of people have successful defended themselves with firearms, or other weapons for that matter with absolute minimal training long before consumer grade etraining and gear queer get togethers were ever even dreamt of.

Prehistoric man attended club swinging classes right?

Hundreds of millions of people have unsuccessful defended themselves with firearms, or other weapons for that matter with absolute minimal training long before consumer grade etraining and gear queer get togethers were ever even dreamt of.

If you're going to try to make some sort of persuasive argument... at least make it have SOME substance.

Posted: 8/12/2018 8:43:50 PM EST

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Someone is up past bedtime

Posted: 8/12/2018 8:44:07 PM EST

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Mac acts and sounds a lot more like a newbie SEAL than a veteran Delta guy. The only thing he's missing is the hair gel.

Posted: 8/12/2018 8:44:17 PM EST

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You're moving goal post in this argument. I see you're a Marine so let me try to break it down to your level without using coloring books and crayons.

We all know on this site that PatMac is a solid pro 2nd A guy. We all know he just had a foot in mouth moment. Same with Tim Kennedy.

In case you haven't noticed, there is an all out push by asshole liberals to strip our 2nd A rights and they have politicians backing them.

When someone with CAG/SF/SEAL background makes a foot in mouth moment (even though WE on here know what he meant) it gives the left more political ammo against us. And the majority of people who are normies to firearms and the 2nd A will take "the Delta Guys" word as gospel because well we look up to our SOCOM men as heroes.

Our beef is that if Pat or whoever is going to put themselves into the limelight, they need to be extra careful about sending the wrong message to the uneducated. This fight for the second A is hard enough and we don't need the uneducated thinking micro-infringments on the 2nd A are OK because some Delta guy said they were OK.

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How many tax stamps do you have for NFA items?

How many 4473's have you filled out in your life?

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You're moving goal post in this argument. I see you're a Marine so let me try to break it down to your level without using coloring books and crayons.

We all know on this site that PatMac is a solid pro 2nd A guy. We all know he just had a foot in mouth moment. Same with Tim Kennedy.

In case you haven't noticed, there is an all out push by asshole liberals to strip our 2nd A rights and they have politicians backing them.

When someone with CAG/SF/SEAL background makes a foot in mouth moment (even though WE on here know what he meant) it gives the left more political ammo against us. And the majority of people who are normies to firearms and the 2nd A will take "the Delta Guys" word as gospel because well we look up to our SOCOM men as heroes.

Our beef is that if Pat or whoever is going to put themselves into the limelight, they need to be extra careful about sending the wrong message to the uneducated. This fight for the second A is hard enough and we don't need the uneducated thinking micro-infringments on the 2nd A are OK because some Delta guy said they were OK.

Is there a mouse in your pocket, because a lot of people in this thread want to hang him from the rafters for the terrible, terrible crime of not sharing their exact beliefs.

Posted: 8/12/2018 8:45:31 PM EST

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Yes, because complying with government and it's monopoly of force, must mean that I agree with it, and also foolishly support more of it.

Your absolutist rhetoric is so lame.

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@Stretchman

Your post is the most disturbingly incorrect heap of shit I've read on this site in months.

So please,

"depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."

- Some guy (who obviously wanted background checks and 3 day waiting periods on essential liberty)

How many tax stamps do you have for NFA items?

How many 4473's have you filled out in your life?

#willnotcomply

Yes, because complying with government and it's monopoly of force, must mean that I agree with it, and also foolishly support more of it.

Your absolutist rhetoric is so lame.

Well, when you put it that way, is does pretty much mean you agree with it, enjoy your social contract!

Posted: 8/12/2018 8:46:05 PM EST

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"Virtue signal over gun laws" interesting turn of phrase for objecting to waiting periods.

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Just pointing out the irony, again, of people trying to virtue signal over gun laws, when they themselves comply to the same shit they talk shit over.

"Virtue signal over gun laws" interesting turn of phrase for objecting to waiting periods.

Cool, you object to waiting periods.

So now what?

Posted: 8/12/2018 8:46:27 PM EST

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Geez, here we go again with that all or nothing mentality. To be certain, the first words of 2A are 'A well regulated militia',
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Except, a "well regulated militia", in the vernacular of the time when it was written, doesn't mean a "regulated right" at all, it means "well trained and equipped", which clearly has zero relationship to a waiting period regulation or any other prohibition.

Posted: 8/12/2018 8:47:00 PM EST

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Then they, like you, are wrong as well.

Posted: 8/12/2018 8:52:49 PM EST

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You wrote "Our beef is that if Pat or whoever is going to put themselves into the limelight, they need to be extra careful about sending the wrong message to the uneducated."
The three day waiting period on the Federal level has been around for 25 YEARS.
Who's currently working to overturn the Brady bill and get rid of the waiting period?

-bearing in mind there isn't an actual waiting period, it's a hold until a BG clears.

Posted: 8/12/2018 8:55:38 PM EST

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so you're saying that complying with existing laws that have been on the books for decades is OK even if people say they're unconstitutional?

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Geez, here we go again with that all or nothing mentality. To be certain, the first words of 2A are 'A well regulated militia',
3 day waiting periods and background checks are a part of those regulations. Part of what PatMac teaches, if you have ever
even bothered to check, is that developing a skill takes a certain amount of repitition and practice, regardless of how fast you
learn, or how capable you think you are, or, in the case of the 'comedy video, aren't.'

Background checks are a necessary evil in today's society. Like it or not. So are handgun waiting periods. Don't like it?
Get a weapon's permit. Practice so that you will know how to, and can, if you ever need to, like it actually says we should
be doing.

Work on defensive skills, not things you probably won't be doing. Nothing these guys are teaching says that we will
be rolling out or kicking in doors. We will be defending ourselves, or a critical infrastructure of some kind, or holding a line.

Wanna be a high speed guy? Go enlist, and do it for real, like they did. We don't rise to the level of our expectations, we sink
to the level of our training.

Patmac is anything but anti 2A. People like to start crap when there isn't any crap to start. He's just as entitled to his opinion
about how to do this as you are yours.

http://www.hale75alumni.org/images_hale/are_you_lost.jpg

LOL you and everyone else jumping his shit for posting that, but bet you put up with background checks and waiting periods just like everyone else.

if you are so pro-2A why not sell your guns to felons with no background check?

What the fuck?

Here I'll break it down to your level.

Bad gun stuff laws are bad and makes pro-2a people have bad feels.

But bad gun stuff is here and people comply with bad gun stuff because they are scared to get caught.

If you really thought bad gun stuff was bad you would not comply with bad gun stuff laws.

Crying about bad gun stuff laws on the internet seeking good feels from other people who helped allow the bad stuff gun laws pass is silly.

There, hope that helped you figure out what the fuck, patriot.

Well, have you gone and proven what a patriot you are by selling guns to felons?

No?

Sounds like you're all talk to me.

so you're saying that complying with existing laws that have been on the books for decades is OK even if people say they're unconstitutional?

I'm saying that a person that makes such statements and isn't actively flouting these laws is full of shit.

Posted: 8/12/2018 8:56:23 PM EST

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Your post is the most disturbingly incorrect heap of shit I've read on this site in months.

So please,

"depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."

- Some guy (who obviously wanted background checks and 3 day waiting periods on essential liberty)

How many tax stamps do you have for NFA items?

How many 4473's have you filled out in your life?

#willnotcomply

Yes, because complying with government and it's monopoly of force, must mean that I agree with it, and also foolishly support more of it.

Your absolutist rhetoric is so lame.

Well, when you put it that way, is does pretty much mean you agree with it, enjoy your social contract!

Bringing in social contract theory into you shitty argument is an interesting move. Dumb but still interesting.

Posted: 8/12/2018 8:57:00 PM EST

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Yep. Fuck that guy.

Posted: 8/12/2018 8:59:33 PM EST

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You wrote "Our beef is that if Pat or whoever is going to put themselves into the limelight, they need to be extra careful about sending the wrong message to the uneducated."
The three day waiting period on the Federal level has been around for 25 YEARS.
Who's currently working to overturn the Brady bill and get rid of the waiting period?

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I have no waiting period in VA. Matter of fact, I just bought a Sig 1911 and a P226 yesterday and was out the door, pistols in hand in under 30 minutes. You prove my point. People think it is so because it used be and because some guy said so.

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