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Posted: 9/11/2019 10:46:42 AM EST
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Quoted: My first thought too. |
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Posted: 9/11/2019 10:46:59 AM EST
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The fuck are they doing?  They're trying to be the HK of the USA. Self-imposed "policing" and "virtue signaling" that they're only selling to police/military and fuck the general public. Let those assholes go bankrupt AGAIN. They get exactly what they deserve for trying to please or accommodate people who hate them and/or would never buy their products. Colt used to mean SOMETHING. Now they are a one-sentence punch line to a very old joke that nobody laughs at anymore. Their reputation is swirling the toilet and instead of putting weapons in civilian hands and fighting for our rights...they keep trying to plug into the military/cop market while giving the middle finger to citizens. Fuck, dude...the quality control that they were once famous for is nearly irrelevant as agencies don't give a fuck about paying $600-700 a Colt rifle, when they can get the EXACT same thing by buying TWO of the their competitors' guns. Governments by and large will go with the cheapest bidder in most cases. Why buy one Colt when you can buy 2-3 Del-Tons/PSAs/etc.?
They can go under (as for any gun maker that pulls this shit) as far as I'm concerned. |
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Posted: 9/11/2019 10:47:05 AM EST
[#3]
Fuck I hope not.
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Posted: 9/11/2019 10:47:11 AM EST
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I can understand them on stopping.....hard to compete with PSA prices will all you have is a name. I want to say that somebody else was license building cheap "Colt" rifles a few years ago, I remember them getting blown out in CDNN. ETA: Colt Competition Rifle goes out of business Also US Ordnance M16A1 repros. |
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Posted: 9/11/2019 10:47:14 AM EST
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The fuck are they doing? |
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Posted: 9/11/2019 10:47:43 AM EST
[#6]
I can get cheaper and/or better ARs and 1911s than what Colt offers, so whatever.
I do find that new King Cobra Target very interesting though, and I'm going to be pissed if they virtue signal this businesses decision to the point that I can't justify buying one to my conscience. 
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Posted: 9/11/2019 10:50:12 AM EST
[#7]
I got my 6920 awhile ago, no worries.
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Posted: 9/11/2019 10:50:39 AM EST
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Fuck Colt, they've never been on the side of the people. They should have been boycotted a long time ago in all truth. |
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Posted: 9/11/2019 10:52:34 AM EST
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So my LE only 6920 will be worth $8700 now?! |
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Posted: 9/11/2019 10:53:42 AM EST
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe. Or is this more "woke" bullshit like Walmart no longer selling ammo and they are just couching it in less confrontational terms? Hasn't Colt maintained a long history of being against civilian sales? Typo edit. |
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Posted: 9/11/2019 10:54:55 AM EST
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They've been whoring out their name for a long time, they've even let it reach the level of license built rifles with the Walther-manufactured "Colt" M4 OPS 22LR. On the other end of the spectrum is the "Colt" M2012 built by Cooper. I want to say that somebody else was license building cheap "Colt" rifles a few years ago, I remember them getting blown out in CDNN. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I can understand them on stopping.....hard to compete with PSA prices will all you have is a name. I want to say that somebody else was license building cheap "Colt" rifles a few years ago, I remember them getting blown out in CDNN. The lowers were available for a bit at Anderson prices, I picked up two, so I guess I have to backpedal on not owning any Colt stuff, as I do have those two lowers. I will say those two lowers have clean markings, good finish quality, and went together just fine. So that CC stuff may well be better than real Colt stuff. |
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Posted: 9/11/2019 10:55:22 AM EST
[#12]
Fudds going bankrupt
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Posted: 9/11/2019 10:55:56 AM EST
[#13]
Trying to sell a commodity at a premium rarely works out.
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Posted: 9/11/2019 10:56:53 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They're not really top tier either, but they still get a premium. This is not a great loss to the consumer. They've been in the 800-900 range for at least 8 years now though. |
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Posted: 9/11/2019 10:56:56 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Colt has stated in the past it wouldn't return to the days of restricting civilian sales again, and I hope they keep to it. The Colt market has always been a feast/famine proposition, depending their contract obligations and until Colt says they're done with civie sales I'll figure this is the same situation as has happened in the past and commercial sales will resume... Yeah, you could be right it's just routine "catch up" for some anticipated production need. The timing is what seems suspicious to me. In a climate where major retailers are banning open carry and Walmart halts MSR ammo sales in the wake of some mass shootings, I'm not going to discount the possibility that this announcement is a smoke screen for a coming long-term ban on civilian sales that will just sort of "go into effect under the radar." |
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Posted: 9/11/2019 10:57:50 AM EST
[#16]
how did the union lawsuit play out?
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Posted: 9/11/2019 10:58:24 AM EST
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Posted: 9/11/2019 10:59:07 AM EST
[#18]
Piss on Colt, hopefully they go under for good this time.
Although I wonder if the article is genuine, I hope it is. |
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Posted: 9/11/2019 10:59:58 AM EST
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The ABC days are long gone. There are too many good AR makers now for enough people to want to pay Colt's high prices for their product. |
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Posted: 9/11/2019 11:01:09 AM EST
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FN doesn't have this issue.
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Posted: 9/11/2019 11:01:26 AM EST
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What contracts? I think they are in the to M4--->M4A1 conversions. What else are the currently working on? 
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Posted: 9/11/2019 11:02:16 AM EST
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Good fucking grief 
well my AR15A4 just went up in value |
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Posted: 9/11/2019 11:02:54 AM EST
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Colt trying to help distributors move the thousands of Colts they have stacked deep in the warehouses. |
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Posted: 9/11/2019 11:03:25 AM EST
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According to the statement they want to focus on regaining contracts Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What contracts? I think they are in the to M4--->M4A1 conversions. What else are the currently working on? |
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Posted: 9/11/2019 11:03:26 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've never bought a Colt. I don't give the United Auto Workers any money if I can avoid it. I buy non-union guns. Do you boycott aluminum cans and bottles also?? |
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Posted: 9/11/2019 11:05:01 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've never bought a Colt. I don't give the United Auto Workers any money if I can avoid it. I buy non-union guns. |
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Posted: 9/11/2019 11:05:20 AM EST
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They are only worth what you paid unless you sell it.
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Posted: 9/11/2019 11:06:37 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: According to the statement they want to focus on regaining contracts
I wonder if this could be political. Some CT liberals that hate guns convincing Colt to do this and then promising them some juicy contracts as a reward. What committees are the senators and reps from CT on? |
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Posted: 9/11/2019 11:06:48 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Isn't that just like Walmart saying they have no plans to halt ammo sales, then shortly thereafter they announce they will halt sales of certain calibers? Yeah, you could be right it's just routine "catch up" for some anticipated production need. The timing is what seems suspicious to me. In a climate where major retailers are banning open carry and Walmart halts MSR ammo sales in the wake of some mass shootings, I'm not going to discount the possibility that this announcement is a smoke screen for a coming long-term ban on civilian sales that will just sort of "go into effect under the radar." With my AR collection being all Colt and KAC I'd hate to think Colt has finally lost their minds completely and are ending all commercial sales permanently... |
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Posted: 9/11/2019 11:07:57 AM EST
[#30]
Smells like a terrible decision.
You make that call when you HAVE .mil contracts, not when you want them. |
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Posted: 9/11/2019 11:09:17 AM EST
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Over the years, I think I’ve bought 4 of their ARs new. I also bought and sold a 6520 and I have a factory M16 as well, but that I bought those second-hand.
I think I have 2 of the ARs left; the others I sold. They just don’t feel special anymore. Like if you go to a well-stocked LGS these days and you pick up a Knight’s, LMT, Geissele, Larue, FN, etc., they just feel special. Colt has lost that little spark, and it’s because (1) they produced too many rifles and flooded the market, (2) their QC really dropped and they stopped making sure every part that went into their guns was top-tier with excellent fit and finish, (3) they didn’t really innovate that much (the 6940 really is an ok rifle, but looks ancient when you compare it to just about any new MSR), and they haven’t done much in terms of promoting the brand as truly elite. Like most of us have bought colts over the years because of THE CHART, which isn’t that applicable anymore. The last Colt I bought was the 2018 SOCOM with the 14.5 inch P&W barrel, KAC rail, and M4A1 US-Property rollmark. That and the first one I bought are all I have left. Wasn’t really planning on picking up another AR shortly, so this isn’t too consequential to me, but I would hope that they come back to the commercial market at some point. What Colt should be doing is focusing exclusively on the commmercial market, forming a coalition with FN and the rest of the big manufacurers, and telling the government that no AR manufacturer is going to fulfil contracts to military, government, or LE agencies until the attack on 2a rights ends and our right to MSRs and the mags and ammo to feed them is affirmed at all levels once again. |
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Posted: 9/11/2019 11:09:20 AM EST
[#32]
Don’t care...
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Posted: 9/11/2019 11:10:27 AM EST
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Colt agrees civilians shouldn’t have “assault weapons”
Only cops and military should have “weapons of war” 
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Posted: 9/11/2019 11:13:46 AM EST
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I can understand them on stopping.....hard to compete with PSA prices will all you have is a name. |
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Posted: 9/11/2019 11:15:36 AM EST
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"RESTRICTED GOVERNMENT / MILITARY / LAW ENFORCEMENT / EXPORT USE ONLY"
Rest in peace. Long live Palmetto State Armory! |
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Posted: 9/11/2019 11:17:11 AM EST
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Rivers of tears from the fanboys. Fuck Colt. Muh Pony Rollmark means muh value doesn’t decrease.... 
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Posted: 9/11/2019 11:17:27 AM EST
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Click bait thread. Commercial sales will halt while Colt focuses on LE and .mil contracts. Colts will get scarce for a few months until contract obligations met. This certainly isn't the first time Colt has focused on contracts... |
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Posted: 9/11/2019 11:18:16 AM EST
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LOLOLOLOL so they're cutting off a weak stream of revenue in order to pursue a stream of revenue that doesn't yet exist for them?
Brilliant! Its really a wonder why they've gone bankrupt a few times
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Posted: 9/11/2019 11:18:28 AM EST
[#39]
Does anyone even care about Colt now aside from all the Clonebois?
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Posted: 9/11/2019 11:19:12 AM EST
[#40]
POS brand anyway.....much better options to choose from. Buh Bye Colt
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Posted: 9/11/2019 11:19:34 AM EST
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Does anyone even care about Colt now aside from all the Clonebois? I think they make far and away the best 1911 you can get in the 800 to 900 dollar range as well. |
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Posted: 9/11/2019 11:22:53 AM EST
[#42]
Meh Canadian Colt is best Colt.
Diemaco FTW. |
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Posted: 9/11/2019 11:24:49 AM EST
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I'm guessing it's probably this rather than a full-bore halt on all future production of weapons and components for the civilian market. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Click bait thread. Commercial sales will halt while Colt focuses on LE and .mil contracts. Colts will get scarce for a few months until contract obligations met. This certainly isn't the first time Colt has focused on contracts... Or someone is trying to position themselves as being on the "right" side of an issue. Many city and state governments are starting to make noise about not doing LEO business with manufacturers who offer products like this for civilian sales. If being the exclusive supplier for all the LEAs in NY, CA, NJ etc looks like a bigger number then civi sales then that is the direction they might take. |
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Posted: 9/11/2019 11:27:33 AM EST
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I used to work for the government so I can visualize the union workers at Colt sitting on their butts planning their weekends.
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Posted: 9/11/2019 11:28:03 AM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe. Or someone is trying to position themselves as being on the "right" side of an issue. Many city and state governments are starting to make noise about not doing LEO business with manufacturers who offer products like this for civilian sales. If being the exclusive supplier for all the LEAs in NY, CA, NJ etc looks like a bigger number then civi sales then that is the direction they might take. |
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Posted: 9/11/2019 11:28:25 AM EST
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Brought to you by the company that for years installed sear blocks, half moon bolt carriers, and nonstandard FCG pin sizes for lowly citizens.
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Posted: 9/11/2019 11:29:18 AM EST
[#47]
I would venture to say there are a lot of companies out there building better weapons for less money.
Good looks and reputation will only take you so far. |
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Posted: 9/11/2019 11:31:06 AM EST
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Colt ... killing America's enemies for +50 years. Sad to see all haters shitting on them. But, this IS Arfcom.
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Posted: 9/11/2019 11:32:07 AM EST
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"Recall that Colt filed for bankruptcy protection in June of 2015, emerging in January of 2016. We hear that they’ve struggled to make money on their retail long gun sales for a long time. Colt lost its primary military contract for M16 and M4 rifles in 2013."
from article ... if this is why then well yeah that's a business decision ... if doing it for feels then fuck colt |
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Posted: 9/11/2019 11:33:32 AM EST
[#50]
Oh well. A lot better manufacturers then Colt.
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