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Posted: 5/28/2018 12:02:44 AM EDT
I think the world needs to standardize on this.  It's super annoying having to deal with so many different types.  Which ones can go and which should stay?
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 12:04:55 AM EDT
[#1]
Square or Phillips (preferably both) head screws and Hex. To hell with Torx and flatheads.
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 12:05:18 AM EDT
[#2]
I'll take Torx.
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 12:06:50 AM EDT
[#3]
Torx is the best
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 12:07:24 AM EDT
[#4]
Torx any day of the week
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 12:08:07 AM EDT
[#5]
No love for Robertson?
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 12:08:22 AM EDT
[#6]
torx or hex
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 12:08:45 AM EDT
[#7]
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Quoted for truth.  The Torx is a small involute spline, like on a great shaft.  It transmits torque the best.  Buy the tools and suck it up.
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 12:09:28 AM EDT
[#8]
Torx should be the standard.
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 12:09:53 AM EDT
[#9]
When the others strip out, you can always get a hack saw or Dremel and slot them!
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 12:11:13 AM EDT
[#10]
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Torx any day of the week
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torx first
robertson second
phillips
slot

hex is for bolts, not screws.
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 12:12:20 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/28/2018 12:13:18 AM EDT
[#12]
Don't forget JIS.

Personally Torx or Robertson are fine by me.
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 12:13:26 AM EDT
[#13]
Torx is best. Standardize on it.

It's more resistant to camming out and handles more torque for a given head size than the others.

Slot heads need to be banned by federal law!
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 12:13:58 AM EDT
[#14]
Torx or square/robertson for screws. Phillips should have been gone years ago. Slotted is ok for some applications so you can turn it without having any tools in the field.
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 12:16:57 AM EDT
[#15]
Probably unpopular, but I prefer.

1) Hex
2.) Flat
3.) Torx
4.) Phillips
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 12:18:02 AM EDT
[#16]
Torx all the things.
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 12:21:47 AM EDT
[#17]
Phillips is the worst, by far.

Too many stupid sizes that make zero sense, and tou end up with stripped screws.

Hex is sort of better.

Torx or square drive I love.

Slot, you can always make it bigger if it starts to strip.
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 12:23:29 AM EDT
[#18]
I like torx. As long as you use the correct size, I feel it has the least chance of stripping. Something just feels right when you insert the correct torx bit into a torx nut....
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 12:23:39 AM EDT
[#19]
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I think the world needs to standardize on this.  It's super annoying having to deal with so many different types.  Which ones can go and which should stay?
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If you're Chrysler in the mid-90s through early 2000s...get ALL!

I removed the bumper from my 99 Cherokee...it had Torx, metric bolts, and SAE!
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 12:25:52 AM EDT
[#20]
1. Torx Plus

2. Robetson

3. Hex

4. Allen
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 12:26:17 AM EDT
[#21]
Flathead does get points for versatility. Even if you don't have a screwdriver, if you really need something unscrewed, there is something laying around that is up to the task.
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 12:26:25 AM EDT
[#22]
Torx heads are very forgiving of angle, extremely handy to use in tight spaces. It's a superior product.
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 12:27:40 AM EDT
[#23]
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If you're Chrysler in the mid-90s through early 2000s...get ALL!

I removed the bumper from my 99 Cherokee...it had Torx, metric bolts, and SAE!
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I think the world needs to standardize on this.  It's super annoying having to deal with so many different types.  Which ones can go and which should stay?
If you're Chrysler in the mid-90s through early 2000s...get ALL!

I removed the bumper from my 99 Cherokee...it had Torx, metric bolts, and SAE!
I feel your pain. Always seemed like I had more tools in the back of that thing 'just in case', but was always missing something, some oddball hex size, male or female, SAE or metric, or torx something. I paid somebody to replace the heater core... fuck taking that dash/console/everything apart.
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 12:28:48 AM EDT
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They are the best ones for impact drivers and deck screws, but they need to keep them off of cars.
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 12:30:12 AM EDT
[#25]
SPAX SCREWS are my favorite.

they are torx
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 12:32:15 AM EDT
[#26]
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Torx is best. Standardize on it.

It's more resistant to camming out and handles more torque for a given head size than the others.

Slot heads need to be banned by federal law!
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Agree 100%.

Some rocket scientist at one of my jobs years ago took a torx tip that was too small, installed it in an electric drill, and wrecked over a dozen screws on an aircraft panel before it dawned on him sum ting wong. At least drilling them off was easy, since a torx head will help guide the bit.
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 12:32:20 AM EDT
[#27]
Whitworth all the way!!!
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 12:34:18 AM EDT
[#28]
Flat/slotted FTW.

“But flat are the worst, sk1, you big box of cocks, you from portland or something? What are you smoking?”

Huh interesting you ask... When I use any other type of fastener, I expect them to WORK. When they don’t it pisses me off. I have no such expectation with flats. I expect them to suck going in so I’m never disappointed.

I’m 100%right for all the wrong reasons

ETA sersiouly though. Torx and f the rest
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 12:39:32 AM EDT
[#29]
Torx.

Fuck flathead with a spike. Fuck everyone who uses slotted screws on a gun or computer so the shitty screwdriver can slip out and mar something with a spike-covered spike. Fuck Philips also because of every twat who makes a tiny electronics screw out of a shitty soft metal so you strip it just barely turning the goddamn screwdriver. Fuck hex in applications that need torque, some asshole always makes soft screws and then they get rounded.

Torx is the only screw that never screws up. There are people who prefer torx, and there are people who are wrong. Period.
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 1:30:32 AM EDT
[#30]
I vote Torx.
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 1:38:03 AM EDT
[#31]
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Flathead is shitty, that can go. Phillips and torx are both good designs for different applications. Lots of wrenchers out there subscribe to the "mo' torque, mo' betta" philosophy, so sometimes you have to limit their torque input with a phillips head. In some situations, a torx head allows for excessive input torque allowing the user to damage the fastener or the parts they are fastening. Sometimes, if you need more torque, a torx head is perfect.

In short, there are reasons this is not standardized.
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Plausible
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 1:53:42 AM EDT
[#32]
Torx, external torx, and 12 points are my favorites for screws and bolts except in large sizes where a 6 point does fine.

For machine screws, standard drive should be eliminated in all but the rarest of applications. Phillips is so so.
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 1:58:44 AM EDT
[#33]
Flat head if I have to pick one. It does the best with torque. Otherwise, pick the one best for the application. A properly sized flat head seems to be the most reliable.
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 2:02:42 AM EDT
[#34]
Then let all be standardized as Torx with spiral-lock threads.
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 2:05:08 AM EDT
[#35]
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Flathead does get points for versatility. Even if you don't have a screwdriver, if you really need something unscrewed, there is something laying around that is up to the task.
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Naw man....just......no.
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 2:06:37 AM EDT
[#36]
Torx is best.
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 2:07:59 AM EDT
[#37]
Pozidrive didn't make the list?
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 2:21:55 AM EDT
[#38]
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Link Posted: 5/28/2018 3:05:15 AM EDT
[#39]
It's slotted, not flathead, btw. But torx is great. Never going to be standardized. It's too late. All the varieties are everywhere, so you are stuck with needing the drivers for all of them.
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 3:13:59 AM EDT
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It's slotted, not flathead, btw. But torx is great. Never going to be standardized. It's too late. All the varieties are everywhere, so you are stuck with needing the drivers for all of them.
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I wouldn’t say never. Slotted screws are obsolete in 99% of new items. Torx is growing more common every year. When I take out pain in the ass hex/Allen or Phillips screws and bolts, I replace them with torx.
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 3:14:13 AM EDT
[#41]
Torx are the best, they rarely strip out. Absolutely despise square it strips out the easiest. Flat is obsolete, Philips is alright.
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 3:16:44 AM EDT
[#42]
Phillips: Fucking useless.

Slot: Has uses.

Hex: Has uses.

Torx: GLORIOUS FASTENER MASTER RACE!
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 3:20:40 AM EDT
[#43]
Anyone that thinks Phillips is anything but a monument to human stupidity hasn't spent five minutes examining how it actually works.
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 3:22:22 AM EDT
[#44]
Everyone loves to bash slotted (for good reason), but if you're going to take a fastener and expose it to decades worth of grime, dust, grease, and paint and still want to unscrew it, slotted is easiest to clean out by far.
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 3:24:57 AM EDT
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Everyone loves to bash slotted (for good reason), but if you're going to take a fastener and expose it to decades worth of grime, dust, grease, and paint and still want to unscrew it, slotted is easiest to clean out by far.
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That’s true, but that’s a pretty poor single positive to combine with all the negatives. They work great if you have a 50 piece precision driver set like a gunsmiths kit, but that’s ridiculous for common use. A t10 torx is a t10 torx.
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 3:25:16 AM EDT
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Anyone that thinks Phillips is anything but a monument to human stupidity hasn't spent five minutes examining how it actually works.
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Ok. Fill us in please
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 3:27:16 AM EDT
[#47]
Torx is best
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 3:33:19 AM EDT
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Ok. Fill us in please
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Anyone that thinks Phillips is anything but a monument to human stupidity hasn't spent five minutes examining how it actually works.
Ok. Fill us in please
The angle of a Phillips drive causes a caming-action between the drive and the fastener. This causes significant cam-out at relatively low torque, leading to fastener damage and difficulty reaching proper torque in many applications.

See US Patent #2,474,994 for details on this wonderful feature of the Phillips drive.

Friends don't let friends use drives that cam-out.
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 3:35:51 AM EDT
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The angle of a Phillips drive causes a caming-action between the drive and the fastener. This causes significant cam-out action at relatively low torque, leading to fastener damage and difficulty reaching proper torque in many applications.

See US Patent #2,474,994 for details on this wonderful feature of the Phillips drive.

Friends don't let friends use drives that cam-out.
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Anyone that thinks Phillips is anything but a monument to human stupidity hasn't spent five minutes examining how it actually works.
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The angle of a Phillips drive causes a caming-action between the drive and the fastener. This causes significant cam-out action at relatively low torque, leading to fastener damage and difficulty reaching proper torque in many applications.

See US Patent #2,474,994 for details on this wonderful feature of the Phillips drive.

Friends don't let friends use drives that cam-out.
Lockheed uses fasteners that do it even worse. Called high torque fasteners.

Link Posted: 5/28/2018 3:36:27 AM EDT
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That’s true, but that’s a pretty poor single positive to combine with all the negatives. They work great if you have a 50 piece precision driver set like a gunsmiths kit, but that’s ridiculous for common use. A t10 torx is a t10 torx.
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Everyone loves to bash slotted (for good reason), but if you're going to take a fastener and expose it to decades worth of grime, dust, grease, and paint and still want to unscrew it, slotted is easiest to clean out by far.
That’s true, but that’s a pretty poor single positive to combine with all the negatives. They work great if you have a 50 piece precision driver set like a gunsmiths kit, but that’s ridiculous for common use. A t10 torx is a t10 torx.
But then you need a T12.
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