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Posted: 6/1/2023 11:04:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For you legal experts, does this mean if I have my braced pistol in my car here in Texas, I'm okay at the moment? If you work for the State of TX or you are a current member of GOA or you are a current member of FPC or you are a current member of SAF or if you purchased your brace from Maxim Defense or you are one of the few actual named plaintiffs than Yes  Edit: If you don't fall into any of those categories, than you can always remove the brace, and carry on as before (with whatever TX allows for pistol laws). |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 11:43:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m triple vaxxed against the brace virus! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: SAF's injunction was also granted, for SAF and its members.
Kharn I’m triple vaxxed against the brace virus! I am only double vaxxed until FPC figures out member vs. donor. I tried to "join" FPC for several years. All I could get from them is "thangg you for yer doughnation." 
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Posted: 6/1/2023 11:51:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you work for the State of TX Again, I haven't read it, but doesn't the State of Texas usually mean the people, not merely government employees? |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 11:58:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Again, I haven't read it, but doesn't the State of Texas usually mean the people, not merely government employees? Not in this case. I had something to do with training or equipment costs (going by what one of the lawyers had said). So it is State of Texas employees and agencies, not residents. |
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Posted: 6/3/2023 11:39:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They're supposed to attempt to assemble everything into legal configurations, and then see if anything leftover makes illegal configurations. I guess the outcome depends on how much shit you've bought from PSA on sale without paying attention to what you've got.  Kharn We found some styrofoam packing peanuts in his basement, and cans of diesel fuel in his garage. After topping off his truck and tractor with diesel, several gallons of fuel remained in the cans. Based on that, we charged him with constructive possession of napalm... |
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Posted: 6/3/2023 11:43:44 AM EDT
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I wonder if the FBI and ATF are going to ask GOA, FPC, and SAF for the names listed as member ?
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Posted: 6/3/2023 12:20:32 PM EDT
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Pulled up an old email from GOA. Forgot I joined in January. Member of both now. But didn’t do it for the brace. Did it to push back on gun laws.
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Posted: 6/4/2023 8:29:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder if the FBI and ATF are going to ask GOA, FPC, and SAF for the names listed as member ? They can try, but it would not matter. Being a member doesn’t mean you own a brace. |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 8:57:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder if the FBI and ATF are going to ask GOA, FPC, and SAF for the names listed as member ? There is no way in hell they would give out member lists to those tyrants |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 1:53:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There is no way in hell they would give out member lists to those tyrants Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I wonder if the FBI and ATF are going to ask GOA, FPC, and SAF for the names listed as member ? There is no way in hell they would give out member lists to those tyrants Heh heh heh ..... how did you pay for your membership? If it wasn't with an envelope filled with cash, or a postal M.O., then they just go to the payment processor.....who happily supplies them with anything they want |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 2:01:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Heh heh heh ..... how did you pay for your membership? If it wasn't with an envelope filled with cash, or a postal M.O., then they just go to the payment processor.....who happily supplies them with anything they want Now that’s a fucking scary thought. Definitely not an angle I had considered. |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 2:21:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Heh heh heh ..... how did you pay for your membership? If it wasn't with an envelope filled with cash, or a postal M.O., then they just go to the payment processor.....who happily supplies them with anything they want Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I wonder if the FBI and ATF are going to ask GOA, FPC, and SAF for the names listed as member ? There is no way in hell they would give out member lists to those tyrants Heh heh heh ..... how did you pay for your membership? If it wasn't with an envelope filled with cash, or a postal M.O., then they just go to the payment processor.....who happily supplies them with anything they want /shrug |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 2:48:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There is no way in hell they would give out member lists to those tyrants Then how can they know who is protected by the injunction? |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 2:59:44 PM EDT
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Still a pure blood and still an unregistered. We all should know too well how our gov't works by now.
 
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Posted: 6/4/2023 3:04:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Now that’s a fucking scary thought. Definitely not an angle I had considered. I considered it, but didn't worry about it. The USPS clearly knows I was already a member of GOA from all of the envelopes in the mail. As I said before, being a member of those groups does not mean you own a brace. Some people joined simply to support the fight. Would I would like to know is how many new members were gained over the past week across those groups. |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 3:15:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Then how can they know who is protected by the injunction? That is the beauty of it, and also shows how much of a clusterfuck they have created. Think about it. Someone that FreeBR'd, but is not under an injunction, will have a non-stamped lower that they can run a brace on, and it would be considered a RIFLE (SBR). Someone that did not FreeBR, but IS under an injunction, will have a non-stamped lower that they can run a brace on, and it twill be consider a PISTOL. Someone that FreeBR'd, but is also under an injunction, has a non-stamped lower that they can run a brace on and, it is.....a mess. Technically they agreed that there braced pistol had actually been an SBR all along, but they are under in injunction that keeps the rule from calling it an SBR. ATF won't know who is who, and it is too much of a mess (they created) to even bother trying. |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 4:05:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That is the beauty of it, and also shows how much of a clusterfuck they have created. Think about it. Someone that FreeBR'd, but is not under an injunction, will have a non-stamped lower that they can run a brace on, and it would be considered a RIFLE (SBR). Someone that did not FreeBR, but IS under an injunction, will have a non-stamped lower that they can run a brace on, and it twill be consider a PISTOL. Someone that FreeBR'd, but is also under an injunction, has a non-stamped lower that they can run a brace on and, it is.....a mess. Technically they agreed that there braced pistol had actually been an SBR all along, but they are under in injunction that keeps the rule from calling it an SBR. ATF won't know who is who, and it is too much of a mess (they created) to even bother trying. What about those of us that run what we want and consider them all GUNS? |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 4:23:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Now that's a fucking scary thought. Definitely not an angle I had considered. Meh, any member here is already on the important lists. |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 4:24:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you work for the State of TX or you are a current member of GOA or you are a current member of FPC or you are a current member of SAF or if you purchased your brace from Maxim Defense or you are one of the few actual named plaintiffs than Yes Edit: If you don't fall into any of those categories, than you can always remove the brace, and carry on as before (with whatever TX allows for pistol laws). Covered… And I helped.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 4:27:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Heh heh heh ..... how did you pay for your membership? If it wasn't with an envelope filled with cash, or a postal M.O., then they just go to the payment processor.....who happily supplies them with anything they want Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I wonder if the FBI and ATF are going to ask GOA, FPC, and SAF for the names listed as member ? There is no way in hell they would give out member lists to those tyrants Heh heh heh ..... how did you pay for your membership? If it wasn't with an envelope filled with cash, or a postal M.O., then they just go to the payment processor.....who happily supplies them with anything they want  |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 4:46:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Heh heh heh ..... how did you pay for your membership? If it wasn't with an envelope filled with cash, or a postal M.O., then they just go to the payment processor.....who happily supplies them with anything they want Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I wonder if the FBI and ATF are going to ask GOA, FPC, and SAF for the names listed as member ? There is no way in hell they would give out member lists to those tyrants Heh heh heh ..... how did you pay for your membership? If it wasn't with an envelope filled with cash, or a postal M.O., then they just go to the payment processor.....who happily supplies them with anything they want Not a gig at you.. and a bit off topic.. but I will never understand the Postal MO thing. Why do people seem to think the government can’t track something they issued? It seems to be fairly common in firearms transactions. You don’t want the government tracking your money so you request a form of payment issued directly by them. Not to mention the post office files a suspicious activity reports over certain amounts. Just seems crazy to me. |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 4:57:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That is the beauty of it, and also shows how much of a clusterfuck they have created. Think about it. Someone that FreeBR'd, but is not under an injunction, will have a non-stamped lower that they can run a brace on, and it would be considered a RIFLE (SBR). Someone that did not FreeBR, but IS under an injunction, will have a non-stamped lower that they can run a brace on, and it twill be consider a PISTOL. Someone that FreeBR'd, but is also under an injunction, has a non-stamped lower that they can run a brace on and, it is.....a mess. Technically they agreed that there braced pistol had actually been an SBR all along, but they are under in injunction that keeps the rule from calling it an SBR. ATF won't know who is who, and it is too much of a mess (they created) to even bother trying. In a nutshell, that is very accurate. Complete and total clusterfuck. Only govt can mess stuff up this bad. lol |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 4:59:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Then how can they know who is protected by the injunction? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: There is no way in hell they would give out member lists to those tyrants Then how can they know who is protected by the injunction? Guess they better hold off, not rocket science. |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 5:30:35 PM EDT
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 The Third Injunction of ATF's Pistol Brace Rule. And This One Covers an Entire State |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 5:39:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Heh heh heh ..... how did you pay for your membership? If it wasn't with an envelope filled with cash, or a postal M.O., then they just go to the payment processor.....who happily supplies them with anything they want Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I wonder if the FBI and ATF are going to ask GOA, FPC, and SAF for the names listed as member ? There is no way in hell they would give out member lists to those tyrants Heh heh heh ..... how did you pay for your membership? If it wasn't with an envelope filled with cash, or a postal M.O., then they just go to the payment processor.....who happily supplies them with anything they want Bitcoin solves this. |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 5:40:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Heh heh heh ..... how did you pay for your membership? If it wasn't with an envelope filled with cash, or a postal M.O., then they just go to the payment processor.....who happily supplies them with anything they want Some of us have been life members of the GOA and SAF (and the JPFO) for a decade or more. Good luck pulling up that payment info. |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 5:42:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bitcoin solves this. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I wonder if the FBI and ATF are going to ask GOA, FPC, and SAF for the names listed as member ? There is no way in hell they would give out member lists to those tyrants Heh heh heh ..... how did you pay for your membership? If it wasn't with an envelope filled with cash, or a postal M.O., then they just go to the payment processor.....who happily supplies them with anything they want Bitcoin solves this. 
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Posted: 6/4/2023 5:47:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bitcoin solves this. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I wonder if the FBI and ATF are going to ask GOA, FPC, and SAF for the names listed as member ? There is no way in hell they would give out member lists to those tyrants Heh heh heh ..... how did you pay for your membership? If it wasn't with an envelope filled with cash, or a postal M.O., then they just go to the payment processor.....who happily supplies them with anything they want Bitcoin solves this. No it doesn’t. Bitcoin can be tracked as well. |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 6:12:47 PM EDT
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I only wish this thread, on one of--if not the--biggest gun forums on the internet, was 143 pages of :
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Posted: 6/4/2023 9:21:16 PM EDT
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Advertised brace prices down to $50 in the EE, not sure what's selling
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Posted: 6/4/2023 9:25:32 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/4/2023 9:32:56 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 2nd Amendment Foundation member checking in! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/235580/PXL_20220310_033705857-01_jpeg-2840590.JPG Purple Reign FBATFE If Prince had a pistol. Needs a Raspberry beret rifle to go along with it. |
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Posted: 6/5/2023 8:29:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We found some styrofoam packing peanuts in his basement, and cans of diesel fuel in his garage. After topping off his truck and tractor with diesel, several gallons of fuel remained in the cans. Based on that, we charged him with constructive possession of napalm... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They're supposed to attempt to assemble everything into legal configurations, and then see if anything leftover makes illegal configurations. I guess the outcome depends on how much shit you've bought from PSA on sale without paying attention to what you've got. Kharn We found some styrofoam packing peanuts in his basement, and cans of diesel fuel in his garage. After topping off his truck and tractor with diesel, several gallons of fuel remained in the cans. Based on that, we charged him with constructive possession of napalm... LOL yeah I'm a chemist my compost pile is constructive possession... |
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Posted: 6/5/2023 9:31:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I only wish this thread, on one of--if not the--biggest gun forums on the internet, was 143 pages of : https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/66713/th-3603627210_jpg-2840341.JPG Instead of 143 pages of : https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/66713/th-1242681826_jpg-2840342.JPG I can't help but wonder if the FEDs started this war cry to expose victims for their round ups |
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Posted: 6/5/2023 9:59:35 AM EDT
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I wonder if the Maxim brace coverage includes those who purchased complete pistols, like the DD PDW.
The brace was purchased, but not directly from Maxim. The DD PDW was referenced by the ass clowns as an example of a evil baby killing monster that must be controlled. Fuck the king Become self governable |
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Posted: 6/5/2023 2:08:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No it doesn’t. Bitcoin can be tracked as well. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I wonder if the FBI and ATF are going to ask GOA, FPC, and SAF for the names listed as member ? There is no way in hell they would give out member lists to those tyrants Heh heh heh ..... how did you pay for your membership? If it wasn't with an envelope filled with cash, or a postal M.O., then they just go to the payment processor.....who happily supplies them with anything they want Bitcoin solves this. No it doesn’t. Bitcoin can be tracked as well. Not as easily as a credit card. Not at all if you own non kyc coins. |
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Posted: 6/5/2023 9:17:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I can't help but wonder if the FEDs started this war cry to expose victims for their round ups And I can't help but wonder if this pissy pants whining is done by FEDs who are sad that only 250k registered pistols of perhaps 10 or more million braced guns is all that they accomplished. Link to thread on compliance percentages By the looks of it, posters in this thread must own the bulk of those 250k guns |
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Posted: 6/6/2023 1:29:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Some of us have been life members of the GOA and SAF (and the JPFO) for a decade or more. Good luck pulling up that payment info. Records exported to excel. Search GOA. Done. It doesn’t require digging through mountains of paper as you’re imagining. 10 years ago records were digitally exported to excel. |
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Posted: 6/6/2023 5:52:41 PM EDT
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What about all the NRA members? Are they covered by the NRA-ILA's lawsuit and injunction? Oh right... the NRA isn't doing anything.
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Posted: 6/6/2023 11:57:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What about all the NRA members? Are they covered by the NRA-ILA's lawsuit and injunction? Oh right... the NRA isn't doing anything. If you didn’t read the writing on the wall years ago and joined GOA, SAF, or FPC… I can’t help you. |
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Posted: 6/7/2023 12:05:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What about all the NRA members? Are they covered by the NRA-ILA's lawsuit and injunction? Oh right... the NRA isn't doing anything. They certainly aren’t even trying to pretend anymore |
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Posted: 6/7/2023 12:30:21 AM EDT
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NRA has brought a lawsuit in North Dakota. I'm not a big fan, but think we should be honest about what groups are actually funding lawsuits.
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Posted: 6/7/2023 10:00:16 AM EDT
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BREAKING: YOU Made This Happen!! Vote on Bill To STOP ATF Pistol Brace Rule Scheduled
 BREAKING: YOU Made This Happen!! Vote on Bill To STOP ATF Pistol Brace Rule Scheduled |
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Posted: 6/7/2023 10:02:16 AM EDT
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A bill in congress means nothing. Biden would never sign it and they do not have the votes to override a veto in the Senate.
This is only going to be resolved in the federal appeals courts. |
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Posted: 6/7/2023 10:10:44 AM EDT
[#45]
my dogs are still alive.
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Posted: 6/7/2023 10:13:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A bill in congress means nothing. Biden would never sign it and they do not have the votes to override a veto in the Senate. This is only going to be resolved in the federal appeals courts. True but it shows the intent of Congress |
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Posted: 6/7/2023 10:16:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If Prince had a pistol. Needs a Raspberry beret rifle to go along with it. And high heel shoes. |
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Posted: 6/7/2023 10:27:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 2nd Amendment Foundation member checking in! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/235580/PXL_20220310_033705857-01_jpeg-2840590.JPG Purple Reign FBATFE I don’t get it… Isn’t that song about a gay kid that gets beat by his dad and cries from his black eyes. We need a tranny forum for this place. |
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Posted: 6/7/2023 10:47:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A bill in congress means nothing. Biden would never sign it and they do not have the votes to override a veto in the Senate. This is only going to be resolved in the federal appeals courts. It absolutely means something. It sends a powerful message everywhere including all the courts. |
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Posted: 6/7/2023 11:53:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: True but it shows the intent of Congress This right here. |
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