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Posted: 11/1/2018 11:53:04 AM EDT
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Yep. Look at how dangerous they are... Here is a pie chart of the fatal dog attacks on humans in the US since Jan 1 2008https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/261993/dbrf-20130525_jpg-724214.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Huskys are considered a dangerous dog also. Here is a pie chart of the fatal dog attacks on humans in the US since Jan 1 2008https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/261993/dbrf-20130525_jpg-724214.JPG |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 11:56:51 AM EDT
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Pitbull owners are the dumbest people on the planet. |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 11:57:44 AM EDT
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Serious question for those wanting to end the group of breeds collectively referred to as ‘pit bulls’: which large, potentially aggressive breed would you like to see replace them as the demon dog du jour? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Jesus, when are we going to end that fucking breed? Useless fucking animals I can launch those little bastards. Harder to do with a Pitbull. |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 12:02:11 PM EDT
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Miniature Poodle? I can launch those little bastards. Harder to do with a Pitbull. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Jesus, when are we going to end that fucking breed? Useless fucking animals I can launch those little bastards. Harder to do with a Pitbull. This isn’t a “why won’t they just get something cute and mostly harmless” thought exercise. This is asking you to pick the next badass dog breed they fixate on. Remember the characteristics they’ll choose. Of all the breeds out there with the characteristics they want (that they haven’t already gone through), the pit is the most benign. |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 12:02:43 PM EDT
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Seriously though, any dog that does that, regardless of breed, needs to be put down stat. |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 12:03:03 PM EDT
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Per capita is a more useful measure, but even total number is instructive in showing what the *actual* not theoretical problem is. Per capita estimates are only slightly more evenly weighted among breeds, however. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Huskys are considered a dangerous dog also. Here is a pie chart of the fatal dog attacks on humans in the US since Jan 1 2008https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/261993/dbrf-20130525_jpg-724214.JPG "39 U.S. dog bite-related fatalities occurred in 2017. Despite being regulated in Military Housing areas and over 900 U.S. cities, pit bulls contributed to 74% (29) of these deaths. Pit bulls make up about 6.5% of the total U.S. dog population." |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 12:05:52 PM EDT
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Husky owner was awful gentle.
There'd be an injured pit bull if that was my puppy being chewed on. |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 12:09:47 PM EDT
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A good owner accounts for the characteristics of their dog and acts appropriately to manage those characteristics so that the dog is never a problem. For instance, a good sighthound owner understands that their dog has the propensity to take off after other animals, chase them down, and kill them. That means the owner doesn’t walk them off leash, doesn’t let them play in unfenced areas, and exercises caution when cats and small dogs are around. That being said, it takes about 7 generations of intentional breeding to create a new “breed” with an appearance and temperament that breeds true. Likewise, generation upon generation of indiscriminate breeding erases the reliability that those traits breed true. Most “pit” mutts come from a whole tree of indiscriminate breeding with no thought to appearance or proper temperament, and that shows itself as well. Some will show gameness, some will not. Some will be 30ish lbs, some will be closer to 70ish. Some are almost brachycephalic, and others have long, snipy muzzles. Some are low slung and others are leggy. And within that muttly mix, there are also several real breeds included, each with their own particular physical characteristics and proper temperaments. There is no universal trait that “pit breeds” are going to show. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Now that said about a poodle, much of the same could be said of Pitbulls. It's all how the owner treats and trains the dog. If I see flatbill hats, bad quality tats, cars parked in the front yard along with the owner telling me the Springfield XD is a great gun, I know theres a Pitbull around there who could be a problem. Or, it could be like my friends Pitbull that is trained and well cared for, that I know isn't a problem. Certain breeds have certain personality traits that they have been bred for and will usually demonstrate regardless of how they are raised. Pit breeds are going to show the aggressiveness and ability to physically damage prey that they have been bred for, regardless of how they have been raised. That being said, it takes about 7 generations of intentional breeding to create a new “breed” with an appearance and temperament that breeds true. Likewise, generation upon generation of indiscriminate breeding erases the reliability that those traits breed true. Most “pit” mutts come from a whole tree of indiscriminate breeding with no thought to appearance or proper temperament, and that shows itself as well. Some will show gameness, some will not. Some will be 30ish lbs, some will be closer to 70ish. Some are almost brachycephalic, and others have long, snipy muzzles. Some are low slung and others are leggy. And within that muttly mix, there are also several real breeds included, each with their own particular physical characteristics and proper temperaments. There is no universal trait that “pit breeds” are going to show. |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 12:12:56 PM EDT
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Well bred Pit. Displays all the characteristics of the breed. Probably should have gotten best in show. |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 12:13:33 PM EDT
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Fair enough. When taken into account the per capita data it looks even worse. "39 U.S. dog bite-related fatalities occurred in 2017. Despite being regulated in Military Housing areas and over 900 U.S. cities, pit bulls contributed to 74% (29) of these deaths. Pit bulls make up about 6.5% of the total U.S. dog population." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Huskys are considered a dangerous dog also. Here is a pie chart of the fatal dog attacks on humans in the US since Jan 1 2008https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/261993/dbrf-20130525_jpg-724214.JPG "39 U.S. dog bite-related fatalities occurred in 2017. Despite being regulated in Military Housing areas and over 900 U.S. cities, pit bulls contributed to 74% (29) of these deaths. Pit bulls make up about 6.5% of the total U.S. dog population." Which should not be a surprise, since as Namaah said, these owners often as not want problem dogs in the first place. Combination conscious choice & self-fulfilling prophecy; nature AND nurture, working together to breed nastier & more vicious animals. |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 12:15:53 PM EDT
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I love my pitbull. She is the best dog I have ever seen, loyal smart well behaved. Most people who hate pitbulls have never owned one, just like most people who hate guns. |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 12:18:24 PM EDT
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If I was the husky's owner I'd grab that pits front legs and pull them sideways til they snap. He'll release once he feels that. Fucker.
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Posted: 11/1/2018 12:20:13 PM EDT
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People who paint with a broad brush are the dumbest people on the planet. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Pitbull owners are the dumbest people on the planet. |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 12:25:27 PM EDT
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Jesus, when are we going to end that fucking breed? Useless fucking animals |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 12:29:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/1/2018 12:34:08 PM EDT
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In for DNA check and/or neglectful owners.
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Posted: 11/1/2018 12:37:36 PM EDT
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Yep. Look at how dangerous they are... Here is a pie chart of the fatal dog attacks on humans in the US since Jan 1 2008https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/261993/dbrf-20130525_jpg-724214.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Huskys are considered a dangerous dog also. Here is a pie chart of the fatal dog attacks on humans in the US since Jan 1 2008https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/261993/dbrf-20130525_jpg-724214.JPG |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 12:46:06 PM EDT
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Shocked, I mean absolutely shocked at this rare and unusual behavior
I can't wait to have a fenced yard again. Have to walk my dog on a leash for the moment and after the first encounter with a couple dogs that "got loose" I've made it a point to carry a weapon. |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 12:47:59 PM EDT
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Chow; the breed most likely to turn on its owner, specifically. |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 12:56:17 PM EDT
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Did I make it in before @Naamah comes here and tells us Pitts are the greatest dogs in the world ??
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Posted: 11/1/2018 12:59:36 PM EDT
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I love my pitbull. She is the best dog I have ever seen, loyal smart well behaved. Most people who hate pitbulls have never owned one, just like most people who hate guns. 
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Posted: 11/1/2018 1:02:46 PM EDT
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I love my pitbull. She is the best dog I have ever seen, loyal smart well behaved. Most people who hate pitbulls have never owned one, just like most people who hate guns. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Jesus, when are we going to end that fucking breed? Useless fucking animals You do not love dogs if you think a pit is a good dog. Most people who hate pitbulls have never owned one, just like most people who hate guns. |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 1:04:45 PM EDT
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Why do all these busybodies spend SO much time worrying about the dogs that other people choose to own? |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 1:05:28 PM EDT
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Best round for your bop ?? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I love my pitbull. She is the best dog I have ever seen, loyal smart well behaved. Most people who hate pitbulls have never owned one, just like most people who hate guns. No shit? That's unfortunate. |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 1:07:20 PM EDT
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Your GSD has dog aggression? But its the pitbulls fault? You said a lot of words but I fail to read about a bad pit in your post, only a dog aggressive GSD Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A former employee of mine was let go, partly due to his inability to control his damn dog, or leave the fucking thing at home. I have my dogs at my shop, because it's my fucking shop. I told him on multiple occasions that my GSD does not like other males in his area, and definitely doesnt like pitbulls. I think it's because around here they are the ones always getting aggressive at dog parks, and being the resident overwatch, my boy doesnt like anyone getting too rowdy. I told him to leave the dog at home multiple times, but then, wtf does he do? Shows up with him anyway. The dog is a fucking tank, and literally tackles people when he's excited, using his mouth and all to play bite, etc. That dog is going to hurt someone or get shot for his bullshit, all the while the owner is going to be in the background saying "staaahp" softly with no real influence over what the dog wants to do. You said a lot of words but I fail to read about a bad pit in your post, only a dog aggressive GSD |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 1:09:26 PM EDT
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This x100. You do not love dogs if you think a pit is a good dog. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Jesus, when are we going to end that fucking breed? Useless fucking animals You do not love dogs if you think a pit is a good dog. Fast forward to a few weeks ago. Someone came visiting who owned a female that was in season. Both dogs got into it trying to leg fuck this dude. Someone tried to break them up. Two people ended up with stitches and I believe on got fucked up really good...
Yup quality animals... Stereo types exist for a reason. 
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Posted: 11/1/2018 1:09:58 PM EDT
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Well bred Pit. Displays all the characteristics of the breed. Probably should have gotten best in show. 
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Posted: 11/1/2018 1:10:53 PM EDT
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Asking what round would be best to kill another board member's dog? No shit? That's unfortunate. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I love my pitbull. She is the best dog I have ever seen, loyal smart well behaved. Most people who hate pitbulls have never owned one, just like most people who hate guns. No shit? That's unfortunate. Let me fix this for you, what's best round for ALL bop dogs ??? Feel better now? 
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Posted: 11/1/2018 1:13:04 PM EDT
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Neither large nor intimidating in appearance. This isn’t a “why won’t they just get something cute and mostly harmless” thought exercise. This is asking you to pick the next badass dog breed they fixate on. Remember the characteristics they’ll choose. Of all the breeds out there with the characteristics they want (that they haven’t already gone through), the pit is the most benign. It was mostly a smart ass statement, anyways. We all know there's small likelihood of the preferred choice in dogs for ghetto goblins changing anytime soon. It WOULD be nice of they chose something that doesn't look like a miniature bull and had consummate strength. Something I could beat to death easier, if one latches onto me. |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 1:13:09 PM EDT
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Yep. Look at how dangerous they are... Here is a pie chart of the fatal dog attacks on humans in the US since Jan 1 2008https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/261993/dbrf-20130525_jpg-724214.JPG |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 1:15:53 PM EDT
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Sorry , did I trigger you with a micro aggression ? Do you need a safe space and a cookie ? Let me fix this for you, what's best round for ALL bop dogs ??? Feel better now? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I love my pitbull. She is the best dog I have ever seen, loyal smart well behaved. Most people who hate pitbulls have never owned one, just like most people who hate guns. No shit? That's unfortunate. Let me fix this for you, what's best round for ALL bop dogs ??? Feel better now? Is your desire to kill ALL of these dogs because of hatred or fear? It's hilarious. |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 1:18:04 PM EDT
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Yep. Look at how dangerous they are... Here is a pie chart of the fatal dog attacks on humans in the US since Jan 1 2008https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/261993/dbrf-20130525_jpg-724214.JPG |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 1:32:36 PM EDT
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Just shoot it.
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Posted: 11/1/2018 1:35:23 PM EDT
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They ran out of other things to clutch their pearls and wring their hands about. Must be nice to have things that easy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why do all these busybodies spend SO much time worrying about the dogs that other people choose to own? For the crowd that compares guns to dogs: Imagine a powerful handgun that would periodically, spontaneously, and unpredictably go off on its own. Would you care if I lived alone in the woods with such a weapon? I doubt it. Now what if I lived in your town and frequently walked around local parks with the thing in a shoulder holster? Would that concern you a little? |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 1:40:03 PM EDT
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Nobody would give a shit if you lived secluded out in the middle of nowhere and kept your BOP there. But all too often the owners decide to mix it up with the rest of society with disastrous results. For the crowd that compares guns to dogs: Imagine a powerful handgun that would periodically, spontaneously, and unpredictably go off on its own. Would you care if I lived alone in the woods with such a weapon? I doubt it. Now what if I lived in your town and frequently walked around local parks with the thing in a shoulder holster? Would that concern you a little? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why do all these busybodies spend SO much time worrying about the dogs that other people choose to own? For the crowd that compares guns to dogs: Imagine a powerful handgun that would periodically, spontaneously, and unpredictably go off on its own. Would you care if I lived alone in the woods with such a weapon? I doubt it. Now what if I lived in your town and frequently walked around local parks with the thing in a shoulder holster? Would that concern you a little? |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 1:40:23 PM EDT
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For the crowd that compares guns to dogs... The appropriate comparison the almost identical, fear based, overly emotional rhetoric used by those who are anti-gun and those who are anti-pitbull. |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 1:43:37 PM EDT
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Jesus, when are we going to end that fucking breed? Useless fucking animals |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 1:48:24 PM EDT
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Hands down the most relevant, accurate, and creative retort I have ever seen about pitbulls. Bravo sir. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 11/1/2018 1:48:53 PM EDT
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That being said, it takes about 7 generations of intentional breeding to create a new “breed” with an appearance and temperament that breeds true. Likewise, generation upon generation of indiscriminate breeding erases the reliability that those traits breed true. Most “pit” mutts come from a whole tree of indiscriminate breeding with no thought to appearance or proper temperament, and that shows itself as well. Some will show gameness, some will not. Some will be 30ish lbs, some will be closer to 70ish. Some are almost brachycephalic, and others have long, snipy muzzles. Some are low slung and others are leggy. And within that muttly mix, there are also several real breeds included, each with their own particular physical characteristics and proper temperaments. There is no universal trait that “pit breeds” are going to show.
It's also important to point out that strong nerves on a dog are very important, because it helps predict behavior. A scared, insecure, weak nerved dog is unpredictable. When you take nitwits who see "aggression" as a unilaterally good trait for breeding as some peat boo breeders do, one can assume they have not put forth the effort to determine the cause of that aggression. Is it dominance based aggression, or fear based? Who knows, all we know is that "Deezul bit that ma'facka and that shit tyte yo, he a guard dog". |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 2:05:12 PM EDT
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No one needs to own one. Ban them all. Do it for the children! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 11/1/2018 2:08:50 PM EDT
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No one realistically compares guns to dogs. They compare gun owners to dogs, in that you can never tell which owner is peaceful and which is malevolent and which is just waiting for the switch to be flipped. Since they can’t just ban people, they choose to focus on taking away the weapon instead. Those same folks would gladly ban the people too, and probably gleefully agree they need put down, but that’s not exactly legal. So yeah, same sort of mentality. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why do all these busybodies spend SO much time worrying about the dogs that other people choose to own? For the crowd that compares guns to dogs: Imagine a powerful handgun that would periodically, spontaneously, and unpredictably go off on its own. Would you care if I lived alone in the woods with such a weapon? I doubt it. Now what if I lived in your town and frequently walked around local parks with the thing in a shoulder holster? Would that concern you a little? You oughta practice playing devil's advocate to that line of logic and see if you can point out a few flaws in it. Why might that not be a valid comparison? |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 2:10:36 PM EDT
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"I don't like that dangerous thing so it shouldn't exist. Or at least nobody should have it."
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Posted: 11/1/2018 2:10:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/1/2018 2:11:48 PM EDT
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Are you comfortable with that comparison? Dogs to people? You oughta practice playing devil's advocate to that line of logic and see if you can point out a few flaws in it. Why might that not be a valid comparison? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why do all these busybodies spend SO much time worrying about the dogs that other people choose to own? For the crowd that compares guns to dogs: Imagine a powerful handgun that would periodically, spontaneously, and unpredictably go off on its own. Would you care if I lived alone in the woods with such a weapon? I doubt it. Now what if I lived in your town and frequently walked around local parks with the thing in a shoulder holster? Would that concern you a little? You oughta practice playing devil's advocate to that line of logic and see if you can point out a few flaws in it. Why might that not be a valid comparison? |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 2:13:14 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/1/2018 2:35:37 PM EDT
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In terms of the reasoning behind “ban the things”, which is purely emotional and inherently unreasonable, there is no difference. It’s all hysterical, illogical nonsense. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why do all these busybodies spend SO much time worrying about the dogs that other people choose to own? For the crowd that compares guns to dogs: Imagine a powerful handgun that would periodically, spontaneously, and unpredictably go off on its own. Would you care if I lived alone in the woods with such a weapon? I doubt it. Now what if I lived in your town and frequently walked around local parks with the thing in a shoulder holster? Would that concern you a little? You oughta practice playing devil's advocate to that line of logic and see if you can point out a few flaws in it. Why might that not be a valid comparison?  Attached FileThis is all fatal dog attacks since 2008.  Attached FileOne of these things is not like the other. This isn't emotional, hysterical, illogical nonsense. It's hard data. It's fact. Pitbull appologists don't think statistics be like they do, but it is. |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 2:41:13 PM EDT
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Why would you bring a pitbull to a dog show? Like bringing a POS jalopy to a car show.
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Posted: 11/1/2018 2:45:49 PM EDT
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This is dog bite fatalities from 2016. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/261993/Screenshot_20181101-133033_Photos_jpg-724404.JPG This is all fatal dog attacks since 2008. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/261993/dbrf-20130525_jpg-724405.JPG One of these things is not like the other. This isn't emotional, hysterical, illogical nonsense. It's hard data. It's fact. Pitbull appologists don't think statistics be like they do, but it is. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why do all these busybodies spend SO much time worrying about the dogs that other people choose to own? For the crowd that compares guns to dogs: Imagine a powerful handgun that would periodically, spontaneously, and unpredictably go off on its own. Would you care if I lived alone in the woods with such a weapon? I doubt it. Now what if I lived in your town and frequently walked around local parks with the thing in a shoulder holster? Would that concern you a little? You oughta practice playing devil's advocate to that line of logic and see if you can point out a few flaws in it. Why might that not be a valid comparison? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/261993/Screenshot_20181101-133033_Photos_jpg-724404.JPG This is all fatal dog attacks since 2008. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/261993/dbrf-20130525_jpg-724405.JPG One of these things is not like the other. This isn't emotional, hysterical, illogical nonsense. It's hard data. It's fact. Pitbull appologists don't think statistics be like they do, but it is. Do YOU support banning or killing all pitbulls? Do those statistics support the idea of a ban of all pitbulls? Or that they should all be killed? If not, then they are irrelevant to the discussion. I frankly do not care if some stranger's dogs bite other strangers or other dogs. |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 2:49:45 PM EDT
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This is dog bite fatalities from 2016. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/261993/Screenshot_20181101-133033_Photos_jpg-724404.JPG This is all fatal dog attacks since 2008. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/261993/dbrf-20130525_jpg-724405.JPG One of these things is not like the other. This isn't emotional, hysterical, illogical nonsense. It's hard data. It's fact. Pitbull appologists don't think statistics be like they do, but it is. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why do all these busybodies spend SO much time worrying about the dogs that other people choose to own? For the crowd that compares guns to dogs: Imagine a powerful handgun that would periodically, spontaneously, and unpredictably go off on its own. Would you care if I lived alone in the woods with such a weapon? I doubt it. Now what if I lived in your town and frequently walked around local parks with the thing in a shoulder holster? Would that concern you a little? You oughta practice playing devil's advocate to that line of logic and see if you can point out a few flaws in it. Why might that not be a valid comparison? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/261993/Screenshot_20181101-133033_Photos_jpg-724404.JPG This is all fatal dog attacks since 2008. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/261993/dbrf-20130525_jpg-724405.JPG One of these things is not like the other. This isn't emotional, hysterical, illogical nonsense. It's hard data. It's fact. Pitbull appologists don't think statistics be like they do, but it is. And it still is a very, very low number, given the overall population of dogs, pit bull type dogs, etc. It’s a non-issue, like the handwringing over deaths perpetrated with those evil “assault weapons”, which are also very few and statistically irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. Hysteria. Plain and simple. |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 2:50:13 PM EDT
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Why would you bring a pitbull to a dog show? Like bringing a POS jalopy to a car show. Feed the pit to the big cats at the zoo. They would love a noisy chew toy teach a lesson. Dumb ass Pits would probably think they are winning even after kitty starts dismembering them...
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