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Posted: 4/7/2021 9:09:49 PM EDT
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Biden to unveil 6 executive orders to curb gun violence, nominate a permanent ATF director The president also is expected to announce his nomination of David Chipman as the director of the Justice Department's Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. Chipman is an ATF veteran who currently serves as an adviser for the gun control advocacy group named for former congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., who survived a 2011 mass shooting in Tucson, Arizona. The first action will direct the Department of Justice to propose a rule within 30 days to stop the proliferation of so-called "ghost guns," or makeshift weapons that can be constructed at home or that lack a serial number, according to a senior administration official who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the actions ahead of the president's announcement. The official declined to say whether that meant the Justice Department would classify "ghost guns" as firearms.  |
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Posted: 4/7/2021 9:12:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Great news. Can you post a link where I can buy one today? Question is why? you can buy a Fostech trigger etc or bump fire without a bumpstock. |
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Posted: 4/7/2021 9:37:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah,much better to ignore Trump fucking us on gun control and pretend it never happened. You know,treat it like the 2nd Amendment Coalition. Well I guess that dead horse won't whip itself. #sorryyourboywon |
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Posted: 4/7/2021 9:38:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 1994 Assault Weapons Ban grandfathered all the firearms/mags that were legally owned. Any forecasts for grandfathering in this Executive Order to reclassify these pistols into the NFA? What reason is there to ask? Just keep your shit or turn it in. Nobody cares anymore. |
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Posted: 4/7/2021 9:39:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: More: Biden to unveil 6 executive orders to curb gun violence, nominate a permanent ATF director The president also is expected to announce his nomination of David Chipman as the director of the Justice Department's Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. Chipman is an ATF veteran who currently serves as an adviser for the gun control advocacy group named for former congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., who survived a 2011 mass shooting in Tucson, Arizona. The first action will direct the Department of Justice to propose a rule within 30 days to stop the proliferation of so-called "ghost guns," or makeshift weapons that can be constructed at home or that lack a serial number, according to a senior administration official who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the actions ahead of the president's announcement. The official declined to say whether that meant the Justice Department would classify "ghost guns" as firearms. https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/070/978/737/original/d2da7d198317589d.jpeg So basically the same thing Trump did. |
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Posted: 4/7/2021 9:41:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess people can post these kinds of messages if it makes them feel better. However, most people here did not agree with the Trump EOs against bump stocks, either. If you're expecting the rifles to come down over gun control, you're probably setting yourself up for disappointment. There might be 'marches' and 'rallies' if the 2nd Amendment was repealed, but there aren't too many people willing to fight to the death over any the loss of any (and maybe even all) rights while they are comfortable and not worrying from where the next meal is coming. Then when that next meal doesn't come they will be all but helpless against what comes next. It's sad to be able to see into the future knowing there is nothing you can do to change it. |
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Posted: 4/7/2021 9:51:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So basically the same thing Trump did. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: More: Biden to unveil 6 executive orders to curb gun violence, nominate a permanent ATF director The president also is expected to announce his nomination of David Chipman as the director of the Justice Department's Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. Chipman is an ATF veteran who currently serves as an adviser for the gun control advocacy group named for former congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., who survived a 2011 mass shooting in Tucson, Arizona. The first action will direct the Department of Justice to propose a rule within 30 days to stop the proliferation of so-called "ghost guns," or makeshift weapons that can be constructed at home or that lack a serial number, according to a senior administration official who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the actions ahead of the president's announcement. The official declined to say whether that meant the Justice Department would classify "ghost guns" as firearms. https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/070/978/737/original/d2da7d198317589d.jpeg So basically the same thing Trump did. Holy shit, dude. Give it a rest. Every single gun control thread it’s the same thing. We get it, Trump raped your dog. Feel free to contribute something of value some time. |
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Posted: 4/7/2021 9:52:47 PM EDT
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I'd like to point out that these states maintain a handgun registry, whether formally by law (Maryland Form 77R), or defacto informally "required" (Pennsylvania State Police and PICS):
California New York Maryland Pennsyvlania Connecticut Hawaii New Jersey Washington State DC Michigan Massachusetts These guys know who was buying braced pistols and can easily send out form letters: Attention Mr AROCK, We know you bought FUAROCK Pistol SN 31231, 123112 and 23141. These pistols are only sold in braced AR15 stock configuration. As of {DATE}, they are illegal thanks to Leonid Ilyich Biden's proclaimation. We will turn over our registration records to the ATF in 30 days so that violators of federal law can be prosecuted...blah blah...turn them in Mr Bedeeefostraissse. |
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Posted: 4/7/2021 9:54:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Holy shit, dude. Give it a rest. Every single gun control thread it’s the same thing. We get it, Trump raped your dog. Feel free to contribute something of value some time. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: More: Biden to unveil 6 executive orders to curb gun violence, nominate a permanent ATF director The president also is expected to announce his nomination of David Chipman as the director of the Justice Department's Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. Chipman is an ATF veteran who currently serves as an adviser for the gun control advocacy group named for former congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., who survived a 2011 mass shooting in Tucson, Arizona. The first action will direct the Department of Justice to propose a rule within 30 days to stop the proliferation of so-called "ghost guns," or makeshift weapons that can be constructed at home or that lack a serial number, according to a senior administration official who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the actions ahead of the president's announcement. The official declined to say whether that meant the Justice Department would classify "ghost guns" as firearms. https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/070/978/737/original/d2da7d198317589d.jpeg So basically the same thing Trump did. Holy shit, dude. Give it a rest. Every single gun control thread it’s the same thing. We get it, Trump raped your dog. Feel free to contribute something of value some time. dude would have seriously made the ignore list by now if it wasnt so humorous and predictable at this point. It's like an annoying screeching child that won't just shut the fuck up. |
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Posted: 4/7/2021 9:55:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So basically the same thing Trump did. CoC #6 Attacking or insulting a member in an effort to elicit a negative response. You have the right to disagree, but please do so in a respectful manner. |
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Posted: 4/7/2021 9:58:35 PM EDT
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Tactical machine jumped their 80’s to 150 each. I ordered 3 last week for about 75-80 each. Tonight they are 150. Fuck those cock suckers. I’ve never seen a group fuck each other in the ass as hard as gun people. I’ve bought from them for years. Never again.
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Posted: 4/7/2021 9:58:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Left had lawsuits ready to go against any Trump EO that they didn't like. Most they filed the same day an EO was signed. What will the pro-2nd Amend groups do...? Like the way they look. I guarantee it. |
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Posted: 4/7/2021 10:03:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: CoC #6 edit Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So basically the same thing Trump did. CoC #6 edit Wait,so Trump was a super 2nd Amendment guy with a 2nd Amendment Coalition to advise him,but somehow took advice from the NRA to ban them,and then kept bringing up and finally banned them,but it wasn't his fault? 4 years,and instead of making some gains to put the dems on defense for once, we took a loss and showed them how it's done (And remember, Trump bragged about him getting it done when obama couldn't). I get tired of nothing being done to slow the attack on the 2nd, and having to suck up losses from every Republican administration as well.  |
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Posted: 4/7/2021 10:04:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Tactical machine jumped their 80’s to 150 each. I ordered 3 last week for about 75-80 each. Tonight they are 150. Fuck those cock suckers. I’ve never seen a group fuck each other in the ass as hard as gun people. I’ve bought from them for years. Never again. I don't blame them,since they will probably end up out of business soon.
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Posted: 4/7/2021 10:05:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Like the way they look. I guarantee it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The Left had lawsuits ready to go against any Trump EO that they didn't like. Most they filed the same day an EO was signed. What will the pro-2nd Amend groups do...? Like the way they look. I guarantee it. Waiting for the NRA "send money now" requests to save the 2nd Amendment.
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Posted: 4/7/2021 10:06:03 PM EDT
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Here are the six action items.
1. The Justice Department, within 30 days, will issue a proposed rule to help stop the proliferation of "ghost guns." 2. The Justice Department, within 60 days, will issue a proposed rule to make clear when a device marketed as a stabilizing brace effectively turns a pistol into a short-barreled rifle subject to the requirements of the National Firearms Act. 3. The Justice Department, within 60 days, will publish model "red flag" legislation for states. 4. The Administration is investing in evidence-based community violence interventions. 5. The Justice Department will issue an annual report on firearms trafficking. 6. The President will nominate David Chipman to serve as Director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms. https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2021/04/07/breaking-white-house-releases-initial-executive-gun-control-actions-n2587575 |
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Posted: 4/7/2021 10:06:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So basically the same thing Trump did. Fuck like clockwork, holy shit. |
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Posted: 4/7/2021 10:10:48 PM EDT
[#18]
Reading this thread has certainly let me know that Trump is responsible for any and all unlawful gun control forced upon us in the future. Thanks for the info!
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Posted: 4/7/2021 10:12:42 PM EDT
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Uncle Joe is going to leave Obummer in the dust running for the Gun Salesman of the Year award.
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Posted: 4/7/2021 10:13:06 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/7/2021 10:13:51 PM EDT
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This country about to explode in civil disobedience
30 to 40 million new guns last year sold? Yeah not going happen |
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Posted: 4/7/2021 10:14:57 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Reading this thread has certainly let me know that Trump is responsible for any and all unlawful gun control forced upon us in the future. Thanks for the info! He did show how to get it done, and even bragged that he got it done when obama couldn't,so yes,he bears some responsibility. Heartwarming to see this place turn pro 2nd Amendment for a change. |
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Posted: 4/7/2021 10:17:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This country about to explode in civil disobedience 30 to 40 million new guns last year sold? Yeah not going happen  Attached Filemy body is ready |
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Posted: 4/7/2021 10:19:08 PM EDT
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My gut says this is a bunch of bullshit cobbled together to get the focus off the border and make it look like Biden is taking some initiative. Maybe some vague measures passed that are so poorly written they’d never pass muster in court and only leave people confused.
I’m honestly more concerned about the building pressure against our FL governor than whatever that somnambulant imbecile in the White House gets coaxed into signing. Not much we can do about EOs. Whatever he says is only an attempt to distract from what’s happening where we live. |
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Posted: 4/7/2021 10:26:47 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The Justice Department, within 60 days, will issue a proposed rule to make clear when a device marketed as a stabilizing brace effectively turns a pistol into a short-barreled rifle subject to the requirements of the National Firearms Act. So... buy a longer barrel? |
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Posted: 4/7/2021 10:32:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So... buy a longer barrel? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The Justice Department, within 60 days, will issue a proposed rule to make clear when a device marketed as a stabilizing brace effectively turns a pistol into a short-barreled rifle subject to the requirements of the National Firearms Act. So... buy a longer barrel? |
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Posted: 4/7/2021 10:33:12 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Here are the six action items. 1. The Justice Department, within 30 days, will issue a proposed rule to help stop the proliferation of "ghost guns." 2. The Justice Department, within 60 days, will issue a proposed rule to make clear when a device marketed as a stabilizing brace effectively turns a pistol into a short-barreled rifle subject to the requirements of the National Firearms Act. 3. The Justice Department, within 60 days, will publish model "red flag" legislation for states. 4. The Administration is investing in evidence-based community violence interventions. 5. The Justice Department will issue an annual report on firearms trafficking. 6. The President will nominate David Chipman to serve as Director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms. https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2021/04/07/breaking-white-house-releases-initial-executive-gun-control-actions-n2587575 Guaranteed #4 ends up being squashed as "racist" after the first report. |
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Posted: 4/7/2021 10:34:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sue him. Challenge it and win Years later you may. But that will be after all 80% companies are out of business and no one wants one anymore. Might as well go 100% now. Remember what happened to bump stocks? |
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Posted: 4/7/2021 10:35:49 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This country about to explode in civil disobedience 30 to 40 million new guns last year sold? Yeah not going happen Well shit, and here I was all giddy at the prospect of maxing out my social credit score. Guess it'll have to be an absolute 0. 
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Posted: 4/7/2021 10:36:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Or don't put a brace on it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: The Justice Department, within 60 days, will issue a proposed rule to make clear when a device marketed as a stabilizing brace effectively turns a pistol into a short-barreled rifle subject to the requirements of the National Firearms Act. So... buy a longer barrel? Or leave it how it is and fuck them and their made up BS rules. |
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Posted: 4/7/2021 10:42:35 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Here are the six action items. 1. The Justice Department, within 30 days, will issue a proposed rule to help stop the proliferation of "ghost guns." 2. The Justice Department, within 60 days, will issue a proposed rule to make clear when a device marketed as a stabilizing brace effectively turns a pistol into a short-barreled rifle subject to the requirements of the National Firearms Act. 3. The Justice Department, within 60 days, will publish model "red flag" legislation for states. 4. The Administration is investing in evidence-based community violence interventions. 5. The Justice Department will issue an annual report on firearms trafficking. 6. The President will nominate David Chipman to serve as Director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms. https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2021/04/07/breaking-white-house-releases-initial-executive-gun-control-actions-n2587575 If true, then a whole lot of mostly nothing. Proposed this and proposed that along with some dick sucking reports. |
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Posted: 4/7/2021 10:44:38 PM EDT
[#32]
I love capitalism!!!
These are already on the market...  |
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Posted: 4/7/2021 10:46:48 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If true, then a whole lot of mostly nothing. Proposed this and proposed that along with some dick sucking reports. Chipman's appointment is concerning. But the Senate may not confirm him. |
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Posted: 4/7/2021 10:56:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If true, then a whole lot of mostly nothing. Proposed this and proposed that along with some dick sucking reports. A “proposed rule” is the first step of regulatory rulemaking. They have to publish a “proposed rule” and accept comments before they adopt the rule. Now, that being said, it may turn out that the “ghost gun” rule is just some nonsense like you can’t sell an 80% lower and a jig together, or that if you buy a P80 kit and a complete slide or slide parts kit in the same order they deem that a purchase of a gun, and the “concealable assault weapons” rule may wind up being the same incoherent and impossible to apply nonsense that they tried to put out as “guidance” about braces a few months ago, but the fact that they are “proposed rules” in and of itself does not make it any less problematic. |
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Posted: 4/7/2021 10:58:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He did show how to get it done, and even bragged that he got it done when obama couldn't,so yes,he bears some responsibility. Heartwarming to see this place turn pro 2nd Amendment for a change. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Reading this thread has certainly let me know that Trump is responsible for any and all unlawful gun control forced upon us in the future. Thanks for the info! He did show how to get it done, and even bragged that he got it done when obama couldn't,so yes,he bears some responsibility. Heartwarming to see this place turn pro 2nd Amendment for a change. And yet another complete crock of shit. Go back and read what he directed ATF to do. His EO did NOT ban bump stocks because it could not. And, courts have already ruled that when ATF tried to re-classify them, they were wrong and it was unConstitutional. |
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Posted: 4/7/2021 10:59:29 PM EDT
[#36]
We live under tyranny.
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Posted: 4/7/2021 11:01:05 PM EDT
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Also, I care not one whit what an illegitimate regime does. Xiden was not validly elected POTUS. Therefore, all actions taken by him (or, really, his puppeteers) are not valid. Neither are any laws he signs.
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Posted: 4/7/2021 11:01:44 PM EDT
[#38]
This shit is why the NG is still protecting those assholes.
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Posted: 4/7/2021 11:08:38 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A “proposed rule” is the first step of regulatory rulemaking. They have to publish a “proposed rule” and accept comments before they adopt the rule. Now, that being said, it may turn out that the “ghost gun” rule is just some nonsense like you can’t sell an 80% lower and a jig together, or that if you buy a P80 kit and a complete slide or slide parts kit in the same order they deem that a purchase of a gun, and the “concealable assault weapons” rule may wind up being the same incoherent and impossible to apply nonsense that they tried to put out as “guidance” about braces a few months ago, but the fact that they are “proposed rules” in and of itself does not make it any less problematic. I'm aware how it works and while "problematic" will be mostly rhetoric without any backing of law along with a seasoning of feel goodness for "doing something". Current admin would be better off to leave this alone lest it swing the balance out of their favor. Everything is just a guess until tomorrow's big reveal. |
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Posted: 4/7/2021 11:11:39 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck like clockwork, holy shit. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So basically the same thing Trump did. Fuck like clockwork, holy shit. That guy needs to catch a ban more than anyone on this fucking site. He adds nothing to any thread he posts in and the worst thing about him? All you shits quote him so my ignore of him is moot. |
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Posted: 4/7/2021 11:13:34 PM EDT
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IF for some reason this crap does stick after going through the courts all you have to do is pull your barrel off. Either put a 16" barrel on or not. Without a barrel it's a rifle. Even if it was sold as a pistol it can be turned into a rifle and the brace can stay. This one is going to be even harder for them then their attempt at banning bump stocks because the brace does nothing. They cant ban them they can only reclassify them as stocks. BUT we have along way to go before we get to that point. Also after seeing how the courts are pushing back on the bumpstock ban people are not going to give up anything so quickly. I see alot of non compliance this time around. What will they do when people make a hard plastic velcro mounted device that sticks to your shirt near your shoulder and happens to have a place to insert your buffer tube? NOT attached to the gun. There are always work arounds for everything.
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Posted: 4/7/2021 11:14:26 PM EDT
[#42]
Oh well at least the weather is getting nice we can go BOATING now
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Posted: 4/7/2021 11:15:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So basically the same thing Trump did. Nobody cares. Trump is gone. |
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Posted: 4/7/2021 11:15:16 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck Joe Biden and his orders. He’s not my supervisor WRONG, fuck the never Trumpers and their stupid bump stock toys, |
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Posted: 4/7/2021 11:18:37 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What will they do when people make a hard plastic velcro mounted device that sticks to your shirt near your shoulder and happens to have a place to insert your buffer tube? NOT attached to the gun. There are always work arounds for everything. They’ll say that an AR platform gun is, ipso facto, always a rifle regardless of whether there is anything attached to the buffer tube or not so that the mere act of putting an upper of <16” on it always makes it an SBR. The text of the actual law isn’t consistent with the idea that there can never be such a thing as a large format pistol, but when has ATF ever let that stop them? |
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Posted: 4/7/2021 11:21:10 PM EDT
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Vendors are trying to dump inventory. I got an email from Armorally about their huge sale on polymer80 80% lowers.
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Posted: 4/7/2021 11:21:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd like to point out that these states maintain a handgun registry, whether formally by law (Maryland Form 77R), or defacto informally "required" (Pennsylvania State Police and PICS): California New York Maryland Pennsyvlania Connecticut Hawaii New Jersey Washington State DC Michigan Massachusetts These guys know who was buying braced pistols and can easily send out form letters: Attention Mr AROCK, We know you bought FUAROCK Pistol SN 31231, 123112 and 23141. These pistols are only sold in braced AR15 stock configuration. As of {DATE}, they are illegal thanks to Leonid Ilyich Biden's proclaimation. We will turn over our registration records to the ATF in 30 days so that violators of federal law can be prosecuted...blah blah...turn them in Mr Bedeeefostraissse. It’s easier than that. They subpoena records for every brace sold that they can. Just like all the illegal auto sears, solvent traps, and Glock conversions, they have no trouble getting sales records for non regulated shit. |
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Posted: 4/7/2021 11:25:44 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh well at least the weather is getting nice we can go BOATING now If by "boating" you mean commie hunting then any weather is beautiful weather |
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Posted: 4/7/2021 11:26:05 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Tactical machine jumped their 80’s to 150 each. I ordered 3 last week for about 75-80 each. Tonight they are 150. Fuck those cock suckers. I’ve never seen a group fuck each other in the ass as hard as gun people. I’ve bought from them for years. Never again. Would it make you feel better if neckbeards buy them all up and then sell them at market price? The company is about to have its revenue take a hit so they are going to take the gravy instead of fucking speculators and flippers. Your entitlement is the problem here. |
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Posted: 4/7/2021 11:27:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He can wad those executive actions up, hold them in his fist, then repeatedly plunge the fist deeply into his own anus. |
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