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Bumpstocks should have always been NFA.  Stupid item that I would never own anyway.

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Bumpstocks should have always been NFA.  Stupid item that I would never own anyway.

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Not really. The leadership is disintegrating, and WLP should step down and retire, but the 5 million members like myself - we're still here. Because the NRA leadership turned out to be two faced embezzling bastiges doesn't mean I or any other NRA member will suddenyl vote Demonrat. However, I see many NRA members also joining Second Amendment Foundation and Gun Owners of America.

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Someone called...?

My comment in this thread is... Watch what a politician *does* not what a politician says.

Watch what laws, budgets, and formal orders are made by a President.

Pay little attention to public statements and statements made to cheering crowds. They mean very little in the end.

Watch very carefully what they actually *do.*

I think with certain, bombastic, over-the-top politicians, what they *say* is so exciting and bombastic, some folks ignore (or even justify) the politicians formal actions that violate their bombastic original statements and false promises.

Conservatives are educated.

Conservatives study, read, and analyze the actions of politicians... We pay attention to their, "Conservative Review," grades. We are educated.

Watch what a politician actually does... Not what a politician says.

If you are a conservative, you watch what a politician does. You criticize, and condemn those who do not keep their campaign promises.

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Bumpstocks should have always been NFA.  Stupid item that I would never own anyway.

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You know, I have alot of really smart friends.  Smart successful business leaders.  Very successful.  Very smart.  Some are even as smart as me.  Some of the most successful people in the whole world.

And, all of them, they say to me, you know, Trump is doing a wonderful job.  He won the election in 2016.  Bunch of people didn't think he would win, but he did.  So, he is the winner of the election.  Now, he is the President.  He is the President of the United States.  Our nation.  Don't believe the fake news that says he is not the President.  He is the President.

Plus, just look at his wife.  What a beautiful women.  She was a model.  Think of Trump's Obamacare replacement plan as a woman.  Sure, you have not seen it yet, and it has not even been drafted.  But, if it had been drafted, it would be beautiful.  Trust me.  Like his wife.  Only the best.  And, everybody says, she is beautiful.  Just stunning.

Many people also say, and I have heard this quite often, all the time, she is the most beautiful woman that ever lived.  I was in the airport in Denver just the other day, a wonderful place, great airport.  We love the Denver airport, don't we?  I fly in there all the time.

Colorado has some problems, we all know that, but they have a great airport.  All our airports should be like that.  I'm in construction, so I know beautiful airports.  Everyone should go see the Denver airport.  I love the Denver airport.

This man came up to me and said the First Lady is the most beautiful woman that has ever lived.  Then, we talked about how the media refuses to report on this fact.  Dishonest media.  If they refuse to report that the First lady is the most beautiful woman that ever lived, what else are they hiding?  Bet they don't even report about the beautiful Denver airport.  Its wonderful.

They have this place there called Root Down.  Its a funky bistro in the airport.  Good people.  In the beautiful Denver airport.  Its wonderful.

Many people don't know this but bistro comes from the Greek word bison.  And, bison, some call them buffalo, the Greeks call them bison, used to roam the great plains.  A huge stretch of land in the midwest.

I love the midwest.  I've seen it myself.  It is huge.  The great plains.  Great people out there.  We love the midwest, don't we?  I do.

Oh, crooked, crooked Hillary.  She probably doesn't even go to Denver.  I know alot of people in Denver.  Trust me, I do.  Alot of people.   Very smart, very successful people.  And, I asked them, hey, have you ever seen Hillary?  I call her crooked, crooked Hillary.  She lost the election.

And, they all say, everyone says, they have never seen Hillary in the Denver airport.  I asked the people at Root Down, good people at Root Down, working hard to run a funky bistro, good Americans, there at the beautiful Denver airport, and they have never seen her.  What kinda person doesn't like a funky bistro?  But, the media, the dishonest media, remains silent.  Can't trust them.  No sir.  Can't trust them.

Crooked, crooked Hillary.  She hates the Denver airport and the Great Plains.  Great Plains, Great Plains, I tell you, from sea to shining sea.  Crooked, crooked Hillary.

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You know, I have alot of really smart friends.  Smart successful business leaders.  Very successful.  Very smart.  Some are even as smart as me.  Some of the most successful people in the whole world.

And, all of them, they say to me, you know, Trump is doing a wonderful job.  He won the election in 2016.  Bunch of people didn't think he would win, but he did.  So, he is the winner of the election.  Now, he is the President.  He is the President of the United States.  Our nation.  Don't believe the fake news that says he is not the President.  He is the President.

Plus, just look at his wife.  What a beautiful women.  She was a model.  Think of Trump's Obamacare replacement plan as a woman.  Sure, you have not seen it yet, and it has not even been drafted.  But, if it had been drafted, it would be beautiful.  Trust me.  Like his wife.  Only the best.  And, everybody says, she is beautiful.  Just stunning.

Many people also say, and I have heard this quite often, all the time, she is the most beautiful woman that ever lived.  I was in the airport in Denver just the other day, a wonderful place, great airport.  We love the Denver airport, don't we?  I fly in there all the time.

Colorado has some problems, we all know that, but they have a great airport.  All our airports should be like that.  I'm in construction, so I know beautiful airports.  Everyone should go see the Denver airport.  I love the Denver airport.

This man came up to me and said the First Lady is the most beautiful woman that has ever lived.  Then, we talked about how the media refuses to report on this fact.  Dishonest media.  If they refuse to report that the First lady is the most beautiful woman that ever lived, what else are they hiding?  Bet they don't even report about the beautiful Denver airport.  Its wonderful.

They have this place there called Root Down.  Its a funky bistro in the airport.  Good people.  In the beautiful Denver airport.  Its wonderful.

Many people don't know this but bistro comes from the Greek word bison.  And, bison, some call them buffalo, the Greeks call them bison, used to roam the great plains.  A huge stretch of land in the midwest.

I love the midwest.  I've seen it myself.  It is huge.  The great plains.  Great people out there.  We love the midwest, don't we?  I do.

Oh, crooked, crooked Hillary.  She probably doesn't even go to Denver.  I know alot of people in Denver.  Trust me, I do.  Alot of people.   Very smart, very successful people.  And, I asked them, hey, have you ever seen Hillary?  I call her crooked, crooked Hillary.  She lost the election.

And, they all say, everyone says, they have never seen Hillary in the Denver airport.  I asked the people at Root Down, good people at Root Down, working hard to run a funky bistro, good Americans, there at the beautiful Denver airport, and they have never seen her.  What kinda person doesn't like a funky bistro?  But, the media, the dishonest media, remains silent.  Can't trust them.  No sir.  Can't trust them.

Crooked, crooked Hillary.  She hates the Denver airport and the Great Plains.  Great Plains, Great Plains, I tell you, from sea to shining sea.  Crooked, crooked Hillary.

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Elections are coming.

That is all.

And I love Trump, but his lack of followthrough on 2A and bumpstocks position is disappointing.

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I won't be surprised if he pushes a new AWB if he's re-elected.

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Bumpstocks should have always been NFA.  Stupid item that I would never own anyway.

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The solution isn't a cult like following of Team R no matter what they do,that's for sure.

There really is no solution.The vast majority don't believe in smaller government or less spending,so we will end up getting the government we deserve.

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One more fucking anti gun initiative by Trump and I am done with him.

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My Mother-In-Law has a bad case of the "just about ready to's" as well. Whenever someone does something she doesn't like, she's "just about ready to" do or say something.

You guys should hang out together. You can compare notes.

RDak... Man Of Eventual Action!!!

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While Trump himself will deny it, and he's made statements contradicting it, I got the impression that Tump is uninterested in firearms and basically followed NRA leadership's very public stances in his positions on gun issues in cases that have angered many here.

If we want Trump's gun position modified we're going to have to get him to listen to another pro-gun org or change the NRA's leadership to more reflect a no compromise pro-gun rights stance.

Trump himself said that NRA is a paper tiger... and he's right.  When nobody gives attention to NRA because it compromises on 2nd Amendment is becomes politically irrelevant.

YMMV
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As I've posted before many times, Trump is the best pro-RKBA President in many decades.

With Pelosi running the House, and so-called "conservatives" electing Democrat Senators in states like Alabama, West Virginia, Ohio, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Nevada, Arizona, and Montana last year, we won't see any pro-RKBA legislation until 2024 at the earliest.  Unless you want to cut a deal with the dems....

Therefore the only way to impact change at the national level is with judicial rulings.  Trump is doing a great job at this.  2 outstanding USSC judges.  A record number of circuit court judges.  99 district court judges.  And many more on the way.

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I’m convinced.

I’m Going to vote for the Democrat candidate in the 2020 general election.

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He should call for WLP to step down.

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The alternative is much worse

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No joke, I thought your post was sarcasm.
If it wasn’t do you have any specifics on where the line is this time?

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My limit was anything antigun. He crossed my line and lost my vote.

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He banned bumpstocks by EO which might have opened up a Pandora's box, he is for red flag laws that can and will abuse due process...…...one more anti gun initiative and I just plain will have had enough.

I cannot keep ignoring this stuff because I know a democrat will be worse...…..it will be my personal limit.

Yours and other's limits might be different.....which is fine.

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@carguym14 is right.  When we have a Democrat as President, the Republicans tend to ban together and block gun regulations.  When we have a Republican President, they write them.

Remind me again, how many firearm regulations went into effect during Obama's eight years?  How many during Trumps first term?

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Always with that tired old excuse.

It's OK when our guy beats us,because it's a much better beating than the other guy gives.........

Every damn time a Republican gives us gun control,we are supposed to thank our lucky stars it was not the democrats giving us gun control.And then we show the Republicans how much we believe in the 2nd by reelecting them or voting them into higher office.

If that doesn't send a clear message,I don't know what would....................