In addition to what is in these articles, Project 65 coerces prosecutors into bringing cases against $T lawyers by digging up whatever they can on the prosecutors and threatening THEM with legal complaints if they don't pursue cases they might otherwise dismiss as frivolous.  

Attorneys on the Right SHOULD return the favor, but they don't because they are vastly outnumbered and it would destroy their careers.

You are 100% correct.

Again something we've witnessed how many times. How many lives has the American Gestapo destroyed in trying to get Trump at the orders of their Democratic Socialist dictatorship leaders.

And Sidney Powell?

She comes to mind.

What role did the FBI have with her?

interesting "About Us" page

The Trump guys said DJT did not break the law and the indictment charges and evidence are all fake. Should be a walk in the park if that’s the case. Just use the public defender.

Your both right and you know why. They hate this man so much they just don't give a damn what it cost this nation just as long as they destroy him. Does this way of thinking remind any of you of another group that's willing to do anything to destroy him. It sure does me. Just wait...if DeSantis gets the nomination what they do. It'll be more clearer then who these trolls are.

TRUMP 2024! All you Biden lovers can screw yourselves. You voted for a clown and that's what you got.
You have no clue as to what this idiot and his cronies have done to this country. You're just full of hate. Pull your heads out of your rear ends" MOROINS!!!

Just saw this and your right. I'm done with this post because of reading the single minded sick posts being put up in this post here and it's sickening. I've never been on a progun conservative forum with so many left leaning members. I get you have a right to feel anyway you want about anyone. But hating someone so much that you'd be willing to sacrifice everything just to destroy them, no....plus they use the same excuses in doing so. When the real threat, the real danger are those criminals who are in power now.

Unsubsidized

Perhaps you should consider doing something about the usual provocateurs that always show up in these threads and disrupt/slide them. Nah, crazy idea.

Funny.  Trump thinks the same thing.

I think you are severely missing the obvious here.

Bingo. Quislings are worse that trash.

By not representing him, you allow them to set a legal precedent that will be used forever going forward. By not representing him, you are further destroying the Constitution.

This isn't about Trump. But as long as they can make it appear to be about him, they WILL win.

You have to be joking.

Public defenders generally suck.

A good lawyer will run rings around a public defender.

I've been on more than one jury and have seen a public defender in action. One of the cases almost came down to who was the better lawyer, but a couple of us on the jury were able to point out the word games and non-sequiturs the prosecutor was using to the other jurors. Had we not been on that jury, an innocent man would probably be in prison.

With the current, sickening, trend of qualified people actively trying to get out of jury duty, the system is hopelessly broken.

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America is fucking dead.  The right and it's "fuck it I'm out" mentality in every area has left it to die.

And here they fucking come.  Like the rise and setting of the sun.

Worry about due process later.

No kidding. Imagine supporting a gun grabbing progressive 80 year old for the (R) nomination.

And on a gun message board no less.

Yet, here we are.

Lindsey Graham is that you?  Asking for a friend.

Brad Raffensperger is that you?  Asking for a friend.

Banana Republic phuckery!

I know. Sometimes the truth can be a hard pill to swallow.

But according to the Trump people this is all fake. He didn’t do anything wrong. They made it all up. He waved his finger and declassified everything. The fake tape of him saying he didn’t is fake etc. The raid, the grand jury. None of the it valid. So Trump can file a pretrial hearing for motion to suppress based on the discovery. The prosecution will have to show the judge that is is real. If it is, the case proceeds to trial. If not. It’s dismissed and everyone goes home.

If it’s all fake and Trump did not break the law. He just needs someone to follow legal procedures.

I'm not going to search 4 pages to see if you have been called out for your ignorance or trolling.
Just going to go ahead and  say now that your ignorance is showing

I see a lot of people trying to deflect from the subject.  Likely because the subject, a political organization formed to intimidate lawyers from representing certain people, is a totalitarian, indefensible tactic.  That's not OK.  Nothing Trump does makes it OK.

I agree with this.

Trump doesn't exactly have a stellar record of paying the companies that he's hired to represent him.  Maybe it's a matter of being a numbers (eta) game, but I've heard more accounts of people claiming to not have been paid by him/his companies (including several attorneys), than the number of people that have claimed they have not been paid by me...by 100%.

sta2 I wouldn't work for him.

It’s a pretty interesting and significant mental defect for anyone to get into a thread that should be an affront to everyone that has any interest in the foundations of this country, and turn it into an attack on the victim. The same mentality would justify rape by attacking a victim’s wardrobe.

I just counted at least 10 forms of "you."

Why is it so difficult to have a counter argument without making it personal?

So many complain here about the trolls and COC violations yet always resort to personal attacks when addressing the comments.

A person making comments you disagree with isn't against the rules, but attacking that person with a bunch of personal "you this" and "you that" will get people shitcanned on just about any forum because you're not addressing their arguments, you're personally attacking them.

It's like a majority of the people here whining about trolls or COC violations are the only ones actually breaking the rules. And they'll be the first to say later "Hurr durr, why was this person unfairly banned when the trolls are protected."

No, no one is "protected." It's just that some people have figured out the basic rules of internet forums, the same rules that exist on most forums for the past 20 years: "make a rebuttal or counter-argument against the person's position or reply, NOT the person themselves." It's not rocket science.

So you are in the camp of Trump dindu nuffin? He’s innocent or he broke the law but everyone else does it so they should let him walk?

I’m not saying either is a wrong answer. Everything before Bragg indicted eem was all fake. So I get where people are coming from.

If these prosecutors put fake evidence before a grand jury just to get an “indictment” and when it’s time to show their evidence and they have none. That’s going to open them up to so much criminal and civil action those fuckers won’t be able to run or hide.

This is exactly what I'm talking about.  The thread is about whether it it OK for a political organization to threaten and harass lawyers to prevent them from representing certain individuals.  Whether or not those persons are guilty, they still have a right to legal representation.  Threatening the people providing them that representation is totalitarian bullshit.

Now if you don't want to represent Trump because he may not pay you and probably won't listen to your advice if he does, fair enough.  If you don't want to represent him because leftist brownshirts will protest your home, bar complaints magically appear, and a girl you dated 20 years ago suddenly alleges you raped her, well, that's not the same thing.

Did you happen to notice what the thread was about before it slid?

Regarding his innocence or guilt. I am leaning heavily towards his innocence. The last 7 years have demonstrated time and time again that there are people in high places that will alter evidence, delete or lose evidence. Pursue investigations based on altered evidence and/or sources they know are bad. I don’t know what material Trump had, I don’t know if he declassified it, I don’t know if he was or was not allowed to have material that is classified. I find it less likely that he had Nuke related secrets that are related to our, or anyone else nuclear capabilities (presuming that the OCA does not apply to nukes which I also don’t know) and more likely that he kept material regarding Uranium one that would incriminate Hillary and others. I find it more likely than not that any information that he kept, classified or not, was related to crossfire hurricane and anything likely to support his claims of persecution rather than be a valuable offering for Putin.
On a personal level I don’t care for Trump. I have heard interviews from before he ran for office where his speech was much better than it is now. I attribute that more to (an insulting IMO) his efforts to appeal to his base, than a lack of intelligence on his part. He did things I don’t agree with, but I think he does what he feels is best for this country and its citizens. If for no other reasons than he wants his offspring to enjoy a country that they can build more wealth from. I find the people that criticize the spending he authorized as either incredibly naive or disingenuous. To be able to offer an honest criticism of the spending you have to somehow pretend that he wasn’t being investigated, impeached or basically hamstrung by the GOP. (I think they stated that he would be impeached if he fired Sessions) I think he should shut up about covid vaccines (although his response was impressive at the time and in the environment the entirety of the establishment on both sides and all of the media platforms created). I would prefer a different candidate but none of this is relevant when there is a group (and this thread is purportedly about that group and it’s efforts) that is extorting representation that he needs to keep defending himself against these charges wether they are legitimate or not. The right to a defense is an absolute right, this group is doing everything they can to deny that, and people in this thread are celebrating it. (Or offering their own moronic reasons based upon opinions that were fed to them)

Succinct

It’s reality knocking on the cult-HQ door. Pretend you’re not home.

Was the dress too revealing?

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Well said, but I recognize that it's pretty much a given that any thread in GD that mentions Trump, or Hillary, DeSantis, Biden et al, will not be able to stay on course.

this thread makes a great example of why the republicans don't deserve to win.

Yes. I replied in reference to the original topic.

Trump could just use the public defender if he is innocent. I mean it’s a procedural case. If the stuff was legally declassified and he was legally in possession of it. He doesn’t need a constitutional scholar. He just needs someone to walk in and show his receipts.

Good to know you are the kind of american that thinks its cool to deprive someone of representation.

I am not at all surprised.

Amazing.  No one wants to defend Trump knowing they'll be thrown under the bus and attacked and called all kinds of names when Trump loses.

Was she wearing too short of a skirt?

I can see that you quoted everything that GS wrote but it's obvious you didn't understand not one word.  

The outcome for Trump is rigged every step of the way.  Damn near the entirety of the government is in on it and you think the judge is going to listen and rule correctly on that bullshit.

Yeah, hard to believe people can't put two and two together.

Imagine you knew of a boss in your town that....

-Was difficult to work with. You always had to treat them with kid gloves and be a "yes person." Like coddling a toddler that's due for a nap and doing everything in your power to keep them from having a meltdown tantrum.

-The boss initially praises you. But the moment you disagreed or challenged him, he would fire you and then go on facebook personally insulting you, making childish nicknames, insulting family members, or even making up stories about you (like "He got on his hands and knees and begged me not to fire him.").

-You know of dozens and dozens of people that have worked for him and all share the same exact stories above.
Kind of like that expression. "If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, you're the asshole.”


-This boss doesn't get it though, in his mind he's always the victim and never needs to take accountability. It's never the boss' fault, it's every bad employee (that he hired), and everyone in the industry is out to get him and has formed a secret alliance against him.



So yeah, imagine that boss having difficulty finding quality employees.

If you're an attorney of any worth, whether there's an organization trying to dissuade you or not... Why would you take this case?

You're not only fighting the full force of the federal government, but also a client who has shown an uncanny ability to step on his own dick. We're talking about a guy who could be president right now if he could learn to shut the fuck up occasionally.   No thanks.

lol at the leftists in this thread making it about Trump, as is their tactic, instead of the real issue which is leftists weaponizing ethics and licensing bodies against individuals. Both of which have been pointed out numerous times in the thread.