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Link Posted: 9/2/2023 12:06:49 AM EST
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What's that?  More Reagan era bullshit?
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We really need a working "brilliant pebbles" to get these things in the boost phase. Be so much easier to take out 1 rocket vs 15 mirv and God knows how many decoys when they start their descent.

What's that?  More Reagan era bullshit?


The original was basically a shitload of Miniguns in space. (brilliant pebbles) or (brightly glowing gravel sized rocks)
It evolved into the EKV on the SM-3 missile.


Link Posted: 9/2/2023 12:09:30 AM EST
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Link Posted: 9/2/2023 12:10:06 AM EST
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The best thing Putin could do for western society is to launch it.
Link Posted: 9/2/2023 12:12:29 AM EST
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Putin has placed the world's most powerful Armageddon nuclear rocket dubbed Satan-2 on combat duty in a haunting new threat to the West.
The Armageddon weapon is 116 feet in length and can be loaded with 15 light nuclear warheads at once.
"It is capable of destroying an area the size of Texas or England. A single launch, Boris, and there is no England anymore. Once and for all."
Despite the threats, the first and only known full-scale test of Satan-2 was announced to great fanfare as soon as it took place on 20 April 2022, with Putin in touch by video-link.
The following month, close Putin ally Dmitry Rogozin said almost 50 Satan-2 missiles would soon be on combat duty.
https://www.the-sun.com/news/8981467/putin-nuke-uk-one-strike-combat-duty-deadly-satan/

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Does Russia not even know that Boris Johnson resigned from the UK parliament more than three months ago, or is this just yet another recycled article?
Link Posted: 9/2/2023 12:33:02 AM EST
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I live in a target rich environment in the northwest, I don't lose any sleep over it.
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That is an awesome avatar.
Link Posted: 9/2/2023 1:25:30 AM EST
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And what about the tsunami torpedo nuke? Isn't that one ready for NYC?
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SS Richard Montgomery?
Link Posted: 9/2/2023 1:29:56 AM EST
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The original was basically a shitload of Miniguns in space. (brilliant pebbles) or (brightly glowing gravel sized rocks)
It evolved into the EKV on the SM-3 missile.


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We really need a working "brilliant pebbles" to get these things in the boost phase. Be so much easier to take out 1 rocket vs 15 mirv and God knows how many decoys when they start their descent.

What's that?  More Reagan era bullshit?


The original was basically a shitload of Miniguns in space. (brilliant pebbles) or (brightly glowing gravel sized rocks)
It evolved into the EKV on the SM-3 missile.



It evolved into some other stuff that went up but will never come down too.


What does the recent batch oh Russian super weapons have in common?
Link Posted: 9/2/2023 4:34:02 AM EST
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Xi may let Russia and the USA punch themselves out. Then nuke the survivor.
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Seriously, if defeat was imminent, why wouldn't Putin go first strike especially if China has his back? Or will he hold back and get dragged out of a spider hole like Saddam Hussein or die in a sewer pipe like Muammar Gaddafi?



China would drop Russia in an instant of they went nuclear over something other than response or large scale invasion.

China plays the long game.


Xi may let Russia and the USA punch themselves out. Then nuke the survivor.


Seems unlikely that China wouldn’t be nuked in an exchange between the US and Russia.
Link Posted: 9/2/2023 5:07:37 AM EST
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Doomsday weapon you say?

Link Posted: 9/2/2023 5:16:53 AM EST
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Which member is going to design and produce the patches? Maybe we can get a pre-order list going.

I hope it contains bioluminescent thread in the stitching
Link Posted: 9/2/2023 6:09:57 AM EST
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Which member is going to design and produce the patches? Maybe we can get a pre-order list going.

I hope it contains bioluminescent thread in the stitching
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Radium Luminous Materials Corporation can produce them.
Link Posted: 9/2/2023 6:13:15 AM EST
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It’s worth it to cover up Biden crimes in Ukraine.
Link Posted: 9/2/2023 6:37:46 AM EST
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The Armageddon weapon is 116 feet in length and can be loaded with 15 light nuclear warheads at once.
"It is capable of destroying an area the size of Texas or England. A single launch, Boris, and there is no England Russia anymore. Once and for all."
Link Posted: 9/2/2023 7:04:21 AM EST
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The Armageddon weapon is 116 feet in length and can be loaded with 15 light nuclear warheads at once.
"It is capable of destroying an area the size of Texas or England. A single launch, Boris, and there is no England Russia anymore. Once and for all."
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What do you mean?  Given equal amounts of starting weapons, clearly the Russia has more assets that will survive because they're starting with so many more, right?
Link Posted: 9/2/2023 7:08:21 AM EST
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The best thing Putin could do for western society is to launch it.
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Interesting.
Link Posted: 9/2/2023 7:17:18 AM EST
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Meanwhile cardboard RC planes are fucking up Russia.
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Like a wasp on an elephant's ass.
Link Posted: 9/2/2023 8:45:56 AM EST
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Fuck the air force. Ground launched missiles can do anything jets can do and ICBMs are good enough. -GD, cerca 2015
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But do we launch within the 30 minute window that those silos have to live? We are not on hair trigger alert anymore. I’ve worked at one the the CoNUS “CONS” and I do not believe our response would be given within that window. That would leave a handful of alert bombers that got airborne and our SSBNs. Is that enough? Probably. But then, why have the land part of the triad?

Fuck the air force. Ground launched missiles can do anything jets can do and ICBMs are good enough. -GD, cerca 2015


There were a couple loud voices that couldn't even admit that gravity bombs coupled with F-35s changed the equation bigly.

Infantry officers and COIN experts talking about the triad is fun.
Link Posted: 9/2/2023 8:53:38 AM EST
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I’m assuming it’s way better than Satan 1?
Link Posted: 9/2/2023 9:18:42 AM EST
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Yeah. And we should remember that Russia's nukes do in fact actually work. And that the largest nuke ever detonated was a scaled back version of one of Russia's nukes.

Even the most pathetic animal in the world will eventually bite back if you back it far enough in to a corner. Acting like Russia isn't a real threat is the recipe to losing WW3. Especially given the fact that most of the US populace and our leaders don't have a stomach to prevent or fight WW3.
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LOL, no, no it wasn't. And it's telling that all the chicken littles and russian shills here are telling you 24/7 about their military knowledge, yet won't tell you that in this case you have no clue what you are talking about.

In other news, please never call the french surrender monkeys, OK?
Link Posted: 9/2/2023 9:30:42 AM EST
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I’d like to revisit railed systems, personally. I know it failed before but I think the land part of the triad must be mobile now. Silos are sitting ducks and the CEP of any warhead at the point should be a mission kill.
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Did rail really fail or was it politics that failed the rail?
Link Posted: 9/2/2023 9:37:40 AM EST
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Link Posted: 9/2/2023 9:46:06 AM EST
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I'd imagine after something like that ( not that it will matter then) a wild manhunt for saboteurs would be conducted and lots of blood shed would occur.
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I would think a combo of cyber and space along with a single EMP would do it. That’s what I’d do.

I think the boots on the ground in the US already, would be used first to physically destroy the US infrastructure. It would would be down longer than a cyber attack, I would think.


I'd imagine after something like that ( not that it will matter then) a wild manhunt for saboteurs would be conducted and lots of blood shed would occur.

Great, now they have another reason to go after conservatives.
Link Posted: 9/2/2023 9:58:05 AM EST
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Link Posted: 9/2/2023 10:04:40 AM EST
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Fuck the air force. Ground launched missiles can do anything jets can do and ICBMs are good enough. -GD, cerca 2015
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That's still pretty much true for the biggest conventional war currently ongoing.
Link Posted: 9/2/2023 10:05:54 AM EST
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It's happening isn't ??

Link Posted: 9/2/2023 10:10:36 AM EST
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Meh, Duck and Cover, yada yada yada.

Putin must be feeling weak if he needs to ratchet up the fear level.
Link Posted: 9/2/2023 10:10:59 AM EST
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Seems unlikely that China wouldn’t be nuked in an exchange between the US and Russia.
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Why do you think that? Game theory would suggest the opposite.
Link Posted: 9/2/2023 10:12:05 AM EST
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There were a couple loud voices that couldn't even admit that gravity bombs coupled with F-35s changed the equation bigly.

Infantry officers and COIN experts talking about the triad is fun.
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Whats even more funny is ROTC dropouts talking strategy.

Link Posted: 9/2/2023 10:12:40 AM EST
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He's just trying to make political fodder out of deploying a new system that is now ready and was going to be deployed anyway. 'Mutual Assured Destruction' (MAD) is still the working principle when it comes to a nuclear attack on the US/NATO. Ukraine is way too close to home to even be bullshitting about hitting with nukes. For Putin to say this now is proof of how scared he really is for his own safety and the survival of the current government of Russia. That government is going to collapse of its own weight pretty soon and he is going to be cancelled any day now. Do you think the people of Russia are stupid? They know that MAD is real and that they will be destroyed if he pushes that button.
Link Posted: 9/2/2023 10:16:01 AM EST
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It wouldn't even make it out of their air space.
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I find it interesting that in other recent news, Putin just had one of their top rocket scientists killed with...poisonous mushrooms.
Link Posted: 9/2/2023 10:16:18 AM EST
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Link Posted: 9/2/2023 10:20:56 AM EST
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Vera Lynn - We'll Meet Again (1943)
Link Posted: 9/2/2023 10:21:08 AM EST
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I grew up in a town with tornado warnings and watches being a daily occurrence in the spring. We ignored them. Then one day a tornado ripped thru and killed a lot of people. Point being, past doesn’t predict future.
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Difference being you can run and hide from a tornado.  Tornado shelters can save you and then you rebuild.  There’s nowhere to run and hide from ICBMs.  Only thing we can do if even one of those is launched is pray that it doesn’t hit us.  There’s no rebuilding the world from that.  The nuclear fall out from even one going off in Europe would disrupt global food and energy supplies.

Link Posted: 9/2/2023 10:21:58 AM EST
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I don't know why people are getting so worked up by this. I'll take our fleet of Tridents over a few RS28s any day. They probably have less than 5 of them and it's not like Russia is an economic powerhouse that can afford these - and the embargo ain't helping. It wouldn't surprise me if a lot of the electronics on that missile is sourced from the West.
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The Russians have SLBMs too. Bulava I think it's called.  They also have a new generation Boomer.  They can stash them in the white sea fairly safe from our attack boats and reach us.  It's would be like our east coast boats leaving kings bay and sailing into the Chesapeake Bay to launch.  

Russia puts a huge % of the budget into strategic weapons vs where we spend money....obviously. their conventional forces have always sucked.

It's not accurate to lump their rocket forces in with their terrible conventional forces.

These systems will get priority in supply chains for limited resources.
Link Posted: 9/2/2023 10:24:45 AM EST
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Difference being you can run and hide from a tornado.  Tornado shelters can save you and then you rebuild.  There's nowhere to run and hide from ICBMs.  Only thing we can do if even one of those is launched is pray that it doesn't hit us.  There's no rebuilding the world from that.  The nuclear fall out from even one going off in Europe would disrupt global food and energy supplies.

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Not really.  Chernobyl was worse in terms of the amount of radiation released than an h bomb.  The H bomb distributes it further maybe just due to injection into the high atmosphere.   Altitude of detonation also plays a huge part. A ground detonation is much dirtier than an air burst.
Link Posted: 9/2/2023 10:24:54 AM EST
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I’m shaking in my boots Pooty Tang!

Link Posted: 9/2/2023 10:25:38 AM EST
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Meet the Tridents, the Ohio Class SSBN.
Link Posted: 9/2/2023 10:28:38 AM EST
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Yawn. I grew up in the 80s, I'm completely numb to "OMG the Russians are going to nuke us!!1!" at this point.
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That's exactly when and how shit happens. I mean, exactly there and then (when you least expect it, that is)

I for one, I'm good with it - bring it
Link Posted: 9/2/2023 10:30:07 AM EST
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Shit must be going bad if he feels he needs to threaten the world with nuclear destruction……..again.



Link Posted: 9/2/2023 10:32:21 AM EST
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Yawn. I grew up in the 80s, I'm completely numb to "OMG the Russians are going to nuke us!!1!" at this point.
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Yes, our controllers had us hide under the desk, for safety
everything is a lie
Link Posted: 9/2/2023 10:34:16 AM EST
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Shit must be going bad if he feels he needs to threaten the world with nuclear destruction  ..again.



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They've been working on this monster for more than a decade. That's a huge bitch with a big throw weight.

He's taking the opportunity to rattle the saber but given the dry fuckin he's taking in Ukraine because of NATO I think it's pretty mild.
Link Posted: 9/2/2023 10:39:00 AM EST
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Unless it’s been changed.

Bell pointed out that while the United States has always had the “technical capability” to implement a policy of launch on warning, it has chosen not to do so. “Our policy is to confirm that we are under nuclear attack with actual detonations before retaliating,” he said.


From:  https://historyheist.com/pdd-60-clinton-changes-nuclear-response-from-launch-on-warning-to-after-1st-strike/
Link Posted: 9/2/2023 10:43:20 AM EST
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Oh looks, it's more war mongering and fear porn form another british tabloid....

UK is a pipsqueek irrelevant country that has been over run by the mohamadans....their opinion is meaningless


Missiles point at the same direction for last 80 years are still pointing in the same direction....BFD dude

Link Posted: 9/2/2023 10:47:20 AM EST
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The movie the Day After comes to mind
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Threads was much better, and much darker.

Jay
Link Posted: 9/2/2023 10:51:06 AM EST
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Unless it’s been changed.
Bell pointed out that while the United States has always had the “technical capability” to implement a policy of launch on warning, it has chosen not to do so. “Our policy is to confirm that we are under nuclear attack with actual detonations before retaliating,” he said.


From: https://historyheist.com/pdd-60-clinton-changes-nuclear-response-from-launch-on-warning-to-after-1st-strike/

        https://www.armscontrol.org/act/1997-11/news/clinton-issues-new-guidelines-us-nuclear-weapons-doctrine
Link Posted: 9/2/2023 10:52:38 AM EST
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Yawn. I grew up in the 80s, I’m completely numb to “OMG the Russians are going to nuke us!!1!” at this point.
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Link Posted: 9/2/2023 10:55:48 AM EST
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Lol that's not how nukes work. Propaganda fail.

Omg it will destroy england! Sure it will, lol.
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so you don't think multiple war heads spread just enough apart, wouldn't kill off most of Englands population?
Because, that is how nukes work - or at least can.

A single 100 megaton bomb doesn't do 10 times the damage of a 10 megaton bomb.  However 10 x 10 megaton bombs spread out just enough does more damage than 10 megaton bombs dispersed further apart.
Link Posted: 9/2/2023 10:56:44 AM EST
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Subsidizing U-Crane and enriching all the grifters both here and abroad is not worth a "noo-clar" war.

If you want mushrooms growing all over the place, I guess you're OK with it.

Besides, we've been broke as nation.

Link Posted: 9/2/2023 10:57:23 AM EST
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They are just matching our new ICBM. We have a new ICBM, right? Right?
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So far, this new wonder weapon has a 50/50 chance of blowing up on launch.
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