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Posted: 9/9/2022 9:49:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: People are losing their minds https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327887/SmartSelect_20220908_174602_Twitter_jpg-2519019.JPG Uju needs more colonizing..send in the East India company and get that shit done. That way she can feel joyous..being properly ground under the boot heel of British monarchy.  One of the strangest things ill miss about the queen is having seen her daily on everything around my house... my bottles of food in the fridge many have her royal warrant on them, on my money she is on most of it, on my stamps she is there.. she was everywhere for my entire life. The queen might not have been perfect but who is, she had a tough job of transitioning a dynasty that was essentially part of an old world way of doing things and trying to modernize it and make it relevant into the 20th century, largely she succeeded in many ways. Coldstream guard at Buckingham palace play Star Spangled Banner after 9-11 |
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Posted: 9/9/2022 9:52:45 AM EDT
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96 gun salute in London in memory of Queen Elizabeth II
Cliff's notes version  Ceremonial 96-gun salute fired in memory of Queen Elizabeth II at the Tower of London | AFP |
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Posted: 9/9/2022 9:57:49 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/9/2022 10:10:35 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/9/2022 10:25:13 AM EDT
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RIP Queen Elizabeth II
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Posted: 9/9/2022 10:28:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryChokey:
Well, that didn't take long. |
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Posted: 9/9/2022 10:54:07 AM EDT
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Well it wasn’t like he was going to have her hauled off to the Tower for immediate execution… |
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Posted: 9/9/2022 11:20:25 AM EDT
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If you didn't catch the Lotuseater's podcast (Carl Benjamin aka Sargon of Akkad) from today, it's a good one about what she meant: https://lotuseaters.com/the-podcast-of-the-lotus-eaters-477-09-09-2022
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Posted: 9/9/2022 11:31:01 AM EDT
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Whether you're singing "God Save the Queen (King?)" or "Lizzy's In A Box", we can all agree its a good day for a pint...
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Posted: 9/9/2022 1:02:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ?? The angry bitch Left hates anything to do with empire. Royals, Churchill, whatever. They're all about that IRA Fenian bullshit; always have been. And yes, Britain is to blame for the establishment of slavery in her colonies in N. America, as the French are in theirs, and the Dutch in theirs. Britain's colonies were just more successful. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This. I also do not understand the left's love of English crown. Couldn't they be blamed for oppression and slavery? And yes, Britain is to blame for the establishment of slavery in her colonies in N. America, as the French are in theirs, and the Dutch in theirs. Britain's colonies were just more successful. |
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Posted: 9/9/2022 1:07:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/9/2022 1:14:49 PM EDT
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Just watched the live TV broadcast of the first address to the nation from King Charles III
You could tell he was visibly upset, but he came across very well. He acknowledged that his role has now massively changed He also cited his mothers pledge at the age of 21 to dedicate her life in service, saying he will do likewise. ....sad days, but we'll have to hope that he lives up to the promises and is a worthy successor to Queen Elizabeth II |
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Posted: 9/9/2022 1:17:39 PM EDT
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Full speech:
 WATCH LIVE: King Charles III gives 1st address to Britain and the Commonwealth as new monarch |
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Posted: 9/9/2022 1:23:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryDamn, my wife did the order of succession off the top of her head and made three mistakes, all omissions of very young children. She's been an American citizen for something going on 20 years now. I'm going to have keep a closer eye on her. |
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Posted: 9/9/2022 1:26:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryHow is Harry in line when he gave up his position as a royal ? |
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Posted: 9/9/2022 1:27:48 PM EDT
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A good address.
Made clear he won't abdicate and will devote the rest of his life to serving the people and upholding the Constitutional principles of the Nation. Made clear it is no longer possible for him to devote time to the issues he cares about. Announced that he is granting Prince William the title of Prince of Wales, noted that Catherine will use the title Princess of Wales. Expressed his love for Prince Harry and Meghan as they continue to build their lives overseas (i.e. fuck off back to the US). Ended with thanking his mother. "May 'flights of Angels sing thee to thy rest'." |
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Posted: 9/9/2022 1:30:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Damn, my wife did the order of succession off the top of her head and made three mistakes, all omissions of very young children. She's been an American citizen for something going on 20 years now. I'm going to have keep a closer eye on her. ....aye, them Brummie birds can be a surprise at times
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Posted: 9/9/2022 1:33:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A good address. Made clear he won't abdicate and will devote the rest of his life to serving the people and upholding the Constitutional principles of the Nation. Made clear it is no longer possible for him to devote time to the issues he cares about. Announced that he is granting Prince William the title of Prince of Wales, noted that Catherine will use the title Princess of Wales. Expressed his love for Prince Harry and Meghan as they continue to build their lives overseas (i.e. fuck off back to the US). Ended with thanking his mother. "May 'flights of Angels sing thee to thy rest'." Indeed, a barely in passing remark about Harry and Meghan and no mention of the children should tell Harry exactly where he stands with the family. |
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Posted: 9/9/2022 1:40:59 PM EDT
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He's off to a good start, that was a hell of an address. I'm impressed with the reception he's receiving. Maybe there's hope yet.
My wife start weeping at the "flights of angels" closing. |
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Posted: 9/9/2022 1:43:56 PM EDT
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For those watching the service. This is called sacred music when I grew up.
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Posted: 9/9/2022 1:49:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For those watching the service. This is called sacred music when I grew up.  Sacred Music From Medieval Spain: The Llibre Vermell And The Cantigas De Santa Maria |
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Posted: 9/9/2022 1:52:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/9/2022 1:53:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: While monarchs might want to play a more active role, constitutionally they can't without destroying the monarchy. That's the reality of it. I'm not saying this from a negative point of view of the situation. Just mean to point out your logic doesn't hold up in the real world. It's like the police in America, The politicized departments have strayed very far from the original intent when they were created by the citizens. |
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Posted: 9/9/2022 2:00:53 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/9/2022 2:57:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A good address. Made clear he won't abdicate and will devote the rest of his life to serving the people and upholding the Constitutional principles of the Nation. Made clear it is no longer possible for him to devote time to the issues he cares about. Announced that he is granting Prince William the title of Prince of Wales, noted that Catherine will use the title Princess of Wales. Expressed his love for Prince Harry and Meghan as they continue to build their lives overseas (i.e. fuck off back to the US). Ended with thanking his mother. "May 'flights of Angels sing thee to thy rest'." He may be kind of goofy, he may have been seen as a bit of a whiner, but I think the reputation he got was somewhat undeserved. |
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Posted: 9/9/2022 3:01:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He may be kind of goofy, he may have been seen as a bit of a whiner, but I think the reputation he got was somewhat undeserved. He was born exactly 2 months after me. I have followed his life with interest. I wish him the best. |
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Posted: 9/9/2022 3:19:27 PM EDT
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19 pages.
Amazed that guys on a gun forum give a flip about brits and their “royalty” |
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Posted: 9/9/2022 3:20:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Indeed, a barely in passing remark about Harry and Meghan and no mention of the children should tell Harry exactly where he stands with the family. I was surprised he mentioned them, especially with such fondness, but I suppose that is what you expect from someone in that role. Not to be petty or vengeful. To rise above it. Especially given the context. And while I was initially disappointed with that recognition, upon reflection, it was masterful. By referencing them with such affection, he has put them in a bad spot. They almost certainly intended to strike more blows at the family, through Harry's imminent book, if not also through more interviews. Drama is what Markle thrives on, and it's how she is keeping Harry and herself relevant. Got to be a victim! That's the highest status one can have in 2022. Not achiever. Not team player. And he's too stupid to realize how much he has been played and the damage they have done. By rising above it, Charles (and, by extension, the family) looks kind, magnanimous, and gracious ...in stark contrast to Harry and Markle. It's a good place to be ...and probably fucks with Harry's plans for his book release. |
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Posted: 9/9/2022 3:21:54 PM EDT
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Professor Emeritus Peterson has excellent, insightful, and extemporaneous comments about Her Majesty, her role in the 20th and 21st centuries, the role of the monarchy, over the span of a millennia, and all the good the British Empire did for all people today.
 Jordan Peterson Comments on the Queen's Passing |
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Posted: 9/9/2022 3:22:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How is Harry in line when he gave up his position as a royal ? By birthright. |
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Posted: 9/9/2022 3:23:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I suppose you could make the argument that what is the point of maintaining it, if it isn't able to guide the nation. If they just sit back and let it fall, what value is there in keeping them to protect the nation? I'm not saying this from a negative point of view of the situation. Just mean to point out your logic doesn't hold up in the real world. It's like the police in America, The politicized departments have strayed very far from the original intent when they were created by the citizens. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: While monarchs might want to play a more active role, constitutionally they can't without destroying the monarchy. That's the reality of it. I'm not saying this from a negative point of view of the situation. Just mean to point out your logic doesn't hold up in the real world. It's like the police in America, The politicized departments have strayed very far from the original intent when they were created by the citizens. There is a problem that a lot (most?) Americans don't understand how the UK constitution (unwritten) actually works - even more unfortunately, a large proportion of British people don't either, because schools don't teach it. There has to be something right there if the system has lasted, with minor changes, for a thousand years. Even in the face of a brief spell (Oliver Cromwell) when they tried to work out a workable constitution without a monarch, and failed, going back to a King. It is often said that the Queen (I should really start sayin King now, I suppose...) has no power. Well, that is true, and it isn't. The leader of the government (Prime Minister) is appointed by the Queen. The selection is made by the political parties, and the Queen gives them the nod. Legislation passed by the government has to be signed by the Queen to become law. Normally, it is a formality. However, she could say no. That would be a problem. A constitutional problem. Not having a written constitution is a bit of a problem here, things are based upon expectation. Saying no would have politicians up in arms. They generally think that they would eventually win any such argument, but depending upon what the Queen said no to, the end result may not be too clear. There are indications that at some (very few) points in history, there has been suggestions made to the government of the day that they may not wish to proceed with legislation in its current form. One other thing that helps keep government in check is that the armed forces swear allegiance to the crown, not to any member of the government. The Queen is also the head of the armed forces. No government could count upon armed force to enforce unwanted change. America almost gets this right, with the armed forces (which should not exist, according to the constitution ...) swearing allegiance to the flag of the USA. But then they allow the president to be the head of those forces. |
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Posted: 9/9/2022 3:23:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 19 pages. Amazed that guys on a gun forum give a flip about brits and their “royalty” What's amazing is there are folks like yourself, that hold a more hostile attitude towards the Brits and their "royalty", than the people that actually took up arms against them. |
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Posted: 9/9/2022 3:30:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What's amazing is there are folks like yourself, that hold a more hostile attitude towards the Brits and their "royalty", than the people that actually took up arms against them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 19 pages. Amazed that guys on a gun forum give a flip about brits and their "royalty" What's amazing is there are folks like yourself, that hold a more hostile attitude towards the Brits and their "royalty", than the people that actually took up arms against them.  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/9/2022 3:54:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Professor Emeritus Peterson has excellent, insightful, and extemporaneous comments about Her Majesty, her role in the 20th and 21st centuries, the role of the monarchy, over the span of a millennia, and all the good the British Empire did for all people today.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5os9bT9zuoRemarkable. Thanks for finding that. |
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Posted: 9/9/2022 3:57:57 PM EDT
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Quoted: What's amazing is there are folks like yourself, that hold a more hostile attitude towards the Brits and their "royalty", than the people that actually took up arms against them.  |
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Posted: 9/9/2022 4:14:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What's amazing is there are folks like yourself, that hold a more hostile attitude towards the Brits and their "royalty", than the people that actually took up arms against them. I don’t care about brits the same as I don’t care about Spaniards. They have no influence on my life whatsoever. Why would I? I’m not in to people worship. There is no royalty to me aside from Jesus Christ. |
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Posted: 9/9/2022 4:23:19 PM EDT
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I mean I'm not German but watching the fall of the Berlin Wall was still an amazing event in my life. Same with QEII. I don't want to live in Britain but that doesn't mean I can't appreciate the historical and cultural significance.
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Posted: 9/9/2022 4:26:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't care about brits the same as I don't care about Spaniards. They have no influence on my life whatsoever. Why would I? I'm not in to people worship. There is no royalty to me aside from Jesus Christ. 
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Posted: 9/9/2022 4:29:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't care about brits the same as I don't care about Spaniards. They have no influence on my life whatsoever. Why would I? I'm not in to people worship. There is no royalty to me aside from Jesus Christ. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What's amazing is there are folks like yourself, that hold a more hostile attitude towards the Brits and their "royalty", than the people that actually took up arms against them. I don't care about brits the same as I don't care about Spaniards. They have no influence on my life whatsoever. Why would I? I'm not in to people worship. There is no royalty to me aside from Jesus Christ. |
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Posted: 9/9/2022 4:29:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m not in to people worship. There is no royalty to me aside from Jesus Christ. Then perhaps you would obey the Scriptures. 1 Peter 2:17 Honour all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king. |
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Posted: 9/9/2022 6:06:25 PM EDT
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I keep forgetting too - the National Anthem has now changed - I doubt I'll ever get to sing the God Save the Queen version again, given the present bloodline in the Royals
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Posted: 9/9/2022 6:19:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is this supposed to be a flex? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: What's amazing is there are folks like yourself, that hold a more hostile attitude towards the Brits and their "royalty", than the people that actually took up arms against them. I don't care about brits the same as I don't care about Spaniards. They have no influence on my life whatsoever. Why would I? I'm not in to people worship. There is no royalty to me aside from Jesus Christ. It’s the “holier than thou” flex. Note that Old_Painless, who, while I’ve disagreed with him about many things, manages to make humble faith look inspiring, and is able to show respect. |
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Posted: 9/9/2022 7:25:26 PM EDT
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"It's good to be the King..." -Mel Brooks
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Posted: 9/9/2022 7:28:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
It’s good to be the king! |
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Posted: 9/9/2022 7:46:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I suppose you could make the argument that what is the point of maintaining it, if it isn't able to guide the nation. If they just sit back and let it fall, what value is there in keeping them to protect the nation? I'm not saying this from a negative point of view of the situation. Just mean to point out your logic doesn't hold up in the real world. It's like the police in America, The politicized departments have strayed very far from the original intent when they were created by the citizens. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: While monarchs might want to play a more active role, constitutionally they can't without destroying the monarchy. That's the reality of it. I'm not saying this from a negative point of view of the situation. Just mean to point out your logic doesn't hold up in the real world. It's like the police in America, The politicized departments have strayed very far from the original intent when they were created by the citizens. You know how foreigners to the US seem to completely misunderstand your constitution and ascribe weird interpretations to it? Same thing here. Their constitution is what it is, it has endured for a long time, and is an interesting set of checks and balances on the power of both parliament and the monarchy. I'm not qualified to critique it, and nor are the vast majority majority of GD.  Edit: PhilipPeake above explains in more detail than me. |
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Posted: 9/9/2022 7:49:27 PM EDT
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Never any scandal of her, but the many weaknesses of those around her came to the rise, Epitomized sheer class.
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Posted: 9/9/2022 7:50:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My guess is he will. |
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Posted: 9/9/2022 7:54:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We all have our own opinions on such matters. I've stated mine on a figure head monarch who does nothing all day and gets paid for it. If you are a Royal Family Super Fan that's on you. Good day sir. |
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Posted: 9/9/2022 7:56:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/500949/Harry_jpg-2518487.JPG |
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Posted: 9/9/2022 7:59:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I beg to differ, sir. We still have Queen Margrethe of Denmark, who is 82. I believe she is a great-granddaughter of Queen Victoria and is much loved by her subjects. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margrethe_II_of_Denmark#Patrilineal_descent |
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