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Posted: 6/2/2016 6:54:25 AM EST
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There are as many answers as there are departments in the country.
ETA: By which I mean to say, some departments do incident reports on almost everything, others only on certain things, some call every report they write an incident report, some differentiate between incident and accident reports, some (like in my state,) differentiate between incident and crash reports, etc., etc., etc. You are probably going to need to be more specific in your question to get the information you seek. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 6:55:28 AM EST
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There are as many answers as there are departments in the country. This. For my dept, I do a report for every single call I go on |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 6:59:35 AM EST
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We used miscellaneous incident report forms for non-criminal/non-traffic incidents.
Criminal incident report forms for criminal incidents. Accident report forms for traffic accidents. Example for miscellaneous incident would be like an Act of God causing property damage and false burglar alarms. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 7:06:18 AM EST
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Every time. CYA
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Posted: 6/2/2016 7:08:49 AM EST
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We do reports for any complaint involving a criminal violation of state law or for any arrest we make. Runaway juveniles and missing adults also require an incident report. We then do "information" reports where we need to document that we took some action such as medical calls where we rendered aid, mental health cases where we took someone into protective custody, suspicious activity or incidents, property damage not related to criminal activity (fire, tree falling on house). We also can do information reports for anything that we believe needs to be documented (when in doubt, right it out).
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Posted: 6/2/2016 7:09:15 AM EST
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An Incident Report is different from a criminal report for us. We do Incident Reports on newsworthy stuff.
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Posted: 6/2/2016 7:11:48 AM EST
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We have gone the full circle thing. From every call has to have a formal written report to only criminal cases get a report.
My lawyer said you have to take my report. Your lawyer can pound sand. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 7:12:04 AM EST
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There are as many answers as there are departments in the country. ETA: By which I mean to say, some departments do incident reports on almost everything, others only on certain things, some call every report they write an incident report, some differentiate between incident and accident reports, some (like in my state,) differentiate between incident and crash reports, etc., etc., etc. You are probably going to need to be more specific in your question to get the information you seek. This. My first dept required us to do a report on just about any contact with people in a law enforcement situation. Even if you pulled someone over for a routine stop, you couldn't just let them go with no action taken. You had to ticket them or issue a warning. It sucked. You were pretty much punishing yourself if you did just about anything, and guys were loathe to take speed or seat belt grants for this reason. Second dept was pretty chill about that because it was a huge department and you couldn't turn around without having a contact. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 7:12:31 AM EST
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We do reports for any complaint involving a criminal violation of state law or for any arrest we make. Runaway juveniles and missing adults also require an incident report. We then do "information" reports where we need to document that we took some action such as medical calls where we rendered aid, mental health cases where we took someone into protective custody, suspicious activity or incidents, property damage not related to criminal activity (fire, tree falling on house). We also can do information reports for anything that we believe needs to be documented (when in doubt, right it out). Pretty much this. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 7:13:27 AM EST
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Incident reports are for anything that I feel needs to be documented. They are for crimes, civil matters, informational reports, ect. There is also a policy with the agency I am employed with that states if the public requests a report be written I have to give them one no matter if the report is 1 sentence long. We call those types of case numbers magic case numbers because once someone get one they feel the problem has been magically been solved even though nothing has changed and the report helps them in no way shape or form.
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Posted: 6/2/2016 7:15:15 AM EST
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We do incident reports, arrest reports, field interview reports, and accident reports. We do not do a report for every contact, but are mandated to do them for certain incidents like domestics and if it involves children. Many times it is up to the reporting party whether they file an incident report, unless it's a mandatory report.
Most people file reports for thefts, frauds, criminal trespassing, and assaults. Most everything else is documented in our dispatch log. Every department is different; we have +/- 40,000 people, 49 square miles, 60 officers from chief down (5-8 officers working, depending on what shift), over 2,600 arrests for the year, and responded to over 26,000 calls for service. We are always busy. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 7:21:59 AM EST
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Any time I'm dispatched a call, a report is going to be generated. Also I will document uses of force on our department's standard form. Anything that I run across that is interesting to someone in investigations also gets a report. Law Enforcement is about 87% report writing.
You would be amazed, shocked, awed, and horrified all at the same time if you saw some of the reports I've seen others submit. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 7:22:46 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There are as many answers as there are departments in the country. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 7:23:18 AM EST
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Is it safe to assume that anytime someone is arrested that you guys fill out an incident report?
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Posted: 6/2/2016 7:25:28 AM EST
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An Incident Report is different from a criminal report for us. We do Incident Reports on newsworthy stuff. With us it's an incident report regardless |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 7:25:37 AM EST
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Is it safe to assume that anytime someone is arrested that you guys fill out an incident report? Nope. Like I said, you are going to have to be way more specific. When I started here, for traffic arrests and most municipal charges arrests, there was no report, just the traffic citation or the municipal court affidavit (looks pretty much just like a traffic ticket.) So, not a safe assumption at all. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 7:31:04 AM EST
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Is it safe to assume that anytime someone is arrested that you guys fill out an incident report? For us, yes, for other depts, maybe not |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 7:32:45 AM EST
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Is it safe to assume that anytime someone is arrested that you guys fill out an incident report? Oh yeah. We have to do an incident and arrest report. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 7:35:02 AM EST
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Nope. Like I said, you are going to have to be way more specific. When I started here, for traffic arrests and most municipal charges arrests, there was no report, just the traffic citation or the municipal court affidavit (looks pretty much just like a traffic ticket.) So, not a safe assumption at all. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is it safe to assume that anytime someone is arrested that you guys fill out an incident report? Nope. Like I said, you are going to have to be way more specific. When I started here, for traffic arrests and most municipal charges arrests, there was no report, just the traffic citation or the municipal court affidavit (looks pretty much just like a traffic ticket.) So, not a safe assumption at all. I went round and round with a magistrate over that issue. There is no need for a formal report if you issue a traffic citation (open container) or a non-traffic UTC because the charging information is right there. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 7:35:14 AM EST
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Nope. Like I said, you are going to have to be way more specific. When I started here, for traffic arrests and most municipal charges arrests, there was no report, just the traffic citation or the municipal court affidavit (looks pretty much just like a traffic ticket.) So, not a safe assumption at all. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is it safe to assume that anytime someone is arrested that you guys fill out an incident report? Nope. Like I said, you are going to have to be way more specific. When I started here, for traffic arrests and most municipal charges arrests, there was no report, just the traffic citation or the municipal court affidavit (looks pretty much just like a traffic ticket.) So, not a safe assumption at all. I had a mishap a few weeks ago with my local PD which ended up with me spending a few hours in jail for alleged PI, I started a thread here and it turned to shit so I asked for it to be locked and deleted. I went to court for this yesterday with my attorney and all my evidence(video and receipts from lunch). I was there for exactly 10 minutes, the prosecutor asked to speak to my attorney and dismissed my case due to there not being an incident report. I guess this just adds to the other really weird events that happened that day, I really figured if an arrest, tazers, and jail was involved that there would be a incident report. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 7:39:54 AM EST
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I had a mishap a few weeks ago with my local PD which ended up with me spending a few hours in jail for alleged PI, I started a thread here and it turned to shit so I asked for it to be locked and deleted. I went to court for this yesterday with my attorney and all my evidence(video and receipts from lunch). I was there for exactly 10 minutes, the prosecutor asked to speak to my attorney and dismissed my case due to there not being an incident report. I guess this just adds to the other really weird events that happened that day, I really figured if an arrest, tazers, and jail was involved that there would be a incident report. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is it safe to assume that anytime someone is arrested that you guys fill out an incident report? Nope. Like I said, you are going to have to be way more specific. When I started here, for traffic arrests and most municipal charges arrests, there was no report, just the traffic citation or the municipal court affidavit (looks pretty much just like a traffic ticket.) So, not a safe assumption at all. I had a mishap a few weeks ago with my local PD which ended up with me spending a few hours in jail for alleged PI, I started a thread here and it turned to shit so I asked for it to be locked and deleted. I went to court for this yesterday with my attorney and all my evidence(video and receipts from lunch). I was there for exactly 10 minutes, the prosecutor asked to speak to my attorney and dismissed my case due to there not being an incident report. I guess this just adds to the other really weird events that happened that day, I really figured if an arrest, tazers, and jail was involved that there would be a incident report. From that thread, here an incident and arrest report would be generated. It would have detailed every aspect of the case from the third party reporting, contact, PC for the arrest and your actions during the booking process. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 7:41:16 AM EST
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From that thread, here an incident and arrest report would be generated. It would have detailed every aspect of the case from the third party reporting, contact, PC for the arrest and your actions during the booking process. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is it safe to assume that anytime someone is arrested that you guys fill out an incident report? Nope. Like I said, you are going to have to be way more specific. When I started here, for traffic arrests and most municipal charges arrests, there was no report, just the traffic citation or the municipal court affidavit (looks pretty much just like a traffic ticket.) So, not a safe assumption at all. I had a mishap a few weeks ago with my local PD which ended up with me spending a few hours in jail for alleged PI, I started a thread here and it turned to shit so I asked for it to be locked and deleted. I went to court for this yesterday with my attorney and all my evidence(video and receipts from lunch). I was there for exactly 10 minutes, the prosecutor asked to speak to my attorney and dismissed my case due to there not being an incident report. I guess this just adds to the other really weird events that happened that day, I really figured if an arrest, tazers, and jail was involved that there would be a incident report. From that thread, here an incident and arrest report would be generated. It would have detailed every aspect of the case from the third party reporting, contact, PC for the arrest and your actions during the booking process. The part I was most interested in. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 7:47:08 AM EST
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The part I was most interested in. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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From that thread, here an incident and arrest report would be generated. It would have detailed every aspect of the case from the third party reporting, contact, PC for the arrest and your actions during the booking process. The part I was most interested in. Here all it would detail is that officers were dispatched to a certain area to be on the look out for a certain vehicle driving erratically/reckless, vehicle matching description located at 123 Main St etc. It would not have any information on who called it in. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 7:51:04 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh yeah. We have to do an incident and arrest report. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Is it safe to assume that anytime someone is arrested that you guys fill out an incident report? Oh yeah. We have to do an incident and arrest report. To answer the original question not everywhere - it varies. If you got hooked up for something like public intox in my AO the PO would write a blue ticket and a car would take you downtown. No report. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 7:53:44 AM EST
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To answer the original question not everywhere - it varies. If you got hooked up for something like public intox in my AO the PO would write a blue ticket and a car would take you downtown. No report. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is it safe to assume that anytime someone is arrested that you guys fill out an incident report? Oh yeah. We have to do an incident and arrest report. To answer the original question not everywhere - it varies. If you got hooked up for something like public intox in my AO the PO would write a blue ticket and a car would take you downtown. No report. Here, if we put cuffs on the person a full report would be generated. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 7:55:42 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I had a mishap a few weeks ago with my local PD which ended up with me spending a few hours in jail for alleged PI, I started a thread here and it turned to shit so I asked for it to be locked and deleted. I went to court for this yesterday with my attorney and all my evidence(video and receipts from lunch). I was there for exactly 10 minutes, the prosecutor asked to speak to my attorney and dismissed my case due to there not being an incident report. I guess this just adds to the other really weird events that happened that day, I really figured if an arrest, tazers, and jail was involved that there would be a incident report. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Is it safe to assume that anytime someone is arrested that you guys fill out an incident report? Nope. Like I said, you are going to have to be way more specific. When I started here, for traffic arrests and most municipal charges arrests, there was no report, just the traffic citation or the municipal court affidavit (looks pretty much just like a traffic ticket.) So, not a safe assumption at all. I had a mishap a few weeks ago with my local PD which ended up with me spending a few hours in jail for alleged PI, I started a thread here and it turned to shit so I asked for it to be locked and deleted. I went to court for this yesterday with my attorney and all my evidence(video and receipts from lunch). I was there for exactly 10 minutes, the prosecutor asked to speak to my attorney and dismissed my case due to there not being an incident report. I guess this just adds to the other really weird events that happened that day, I really figured if an arrest, tazers, and jail was involved that there would be a incident report. You got tazed? Well for something like that you'd see a UCR and there would be some internal paperwork as well. There would also be additional charges beyond PI. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 7:56:40 AM EST
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You got tazed? Well for something like that you'd see a UCR and there would be some internal paperwork as well. There would also be additional charges beyond PI. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is it safe to assume that anytime someone is arrested that you guys fill out an incident report? Nope. Like I said, you are going to have to be way more specific. When I started here, for traffic arrests and most municipal charges arrests, there was no report, just the traffic citation or the municipal court affidavit (looks pretty much just like a traffic ticket.) So, not a safe assumption at all. I had a mishap a few weeks ago with my local PD which ended up with me spending a few hours in jail for alleged PI, I started a thread here and it turned to shit so I asked for it to be locked and deleted. I went to court for this yesterday with my attorney and all my evidence(video and receipts from lunch). I was there for exactly 10 minutes, the prosecutor asked to speak to my attorney and dismissed my case due to there not being an incident report. I guess this just adds to the other really weird events that happened that day, I really figured if an arrest, tazers, and jail was involved that there would be a incident report. You got tazed? Well for something like that you'd see a UCR and there would be some internal paperwork as well. There would also be additional charges beyond PI. I didn't get tazed but they drew down on me with one. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 8:05:47 AM EST
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I didn't get tazed but they drew down on me with one. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is it safe to assume that anytime someone is arrested that you guys fill out an incident report? Nope. Like I said, you are going to have to be way more specific. When I started here, for traffic arrests and most municipal charges arrests, there was no report, just the traffic citation or the municipal court affidavit (looks pretty much just like a traffic ticket.) So, not a safe assumption at all. I had a mishap a few weeks ago with my local PD which ended up with me spending a few hours in jail for alleged PI, I started a thread here and it turned to shit so I asked for it to be locked and deleted. I went to court for this yesterday with my attorney and all my evidence(video and receipts from lunch). I was there for exactly 10 minutes, the prosecutor asked to speak to my attorney and dismissed my case due to there not being an incident report. I guess this just adds to the other really weird events that happened that day, I really figured if an arrest, tazers, and jail was involved that there would be a incident report. You got tazed? Well for something like that you'd see a UCR and there would be some internal paperwork as well. There would also be additional charges beyond PI. I didn't get tazed but they drew down on me with one. Here, pre-K, a PI arrest with an ECW drawn but not activated would probably just be an affidavit for most cases. ETA: Nowadays it would be an affidavit, an incident report, a use of force report by the person who drew the ECW, a UOF by the officer's supervisor, a field interview card, a video commentary report, and a separate force statement and video commentary report by any other officer(s) on the scene at the time, at a minimum. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 8:17:50 AM EST
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The part I was most interested in. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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From that thread, here an incident and arrest report would be generated. It would have detailed every aspect of the case from the third party reporting, contact, PC for the arrest and your actions during the booking process. The part I was most interested in. Request the 911 call recording and radio dispatch call. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 8:18:22 AM EST
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I went to court for this yesterday with my attorney and all my evidence(video and receipts from lunch). I was there for exactly 10 minutes, the prosecutor asked to speak to my attorney and dismissed my case due to there not being an incident report. Bet you're still pissed, but good it turned out to be BS. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 8:21:39 AM EST
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I am glad the charges were dropped but it sucks you didn't get the answers you wanted.
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Posted: 6/2/2016 8:25:54 AM EST
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Request the 911 call recording and radio dispatch call. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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From that thread, here an incident and arrest report would be generated. It would have detailed every aspect of the case from the third party reporting, contact, PC for the arrest and your actions during the booking process. The part I was most interested in. Request the 911 call recording and radio dispatch call. The call didn't come in thru dispatch. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 8:28:18 AM EST
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I didn't get tazed but they drew down on me with one. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is it safe to assume that anytime someone is arrested that you guys fill out an incident report? Nope. Like I said, you are going to have to be way more specific. When I started here, for traffic arrests and most municipal charges arrests, there was no report, just the traffic citation or the municipal court affidavit (looks pretty much just like a traffic ticket.) So, not a safe assumption at all. I had a mishap a few weeks ago with my local PD which ended up with me spending a few hours in jail for alleged PI, I started a thread here and it turned to shit so I asked for it to be locked and deleted. I went to court for this yesterday with my attorney and all my evidence(video and receipts from lunch). I was there for exactly 10 minutes, the prosecutor asked to speak to my attorney and dismissed my case due to there not being an incident report. I guess this just adds to the other really weird events that happened that day, I really figured if an arrest, tazers, and jail was involved that there would be a incident report. You got tazed? Well for something like that you'd see a UCR and there would be some internal paperwork as well. There would also be additional charges beyond PI. I didn't get tazed but they drew down on me with one. Civliain complaint and Civil rights suit, 4th amendment violation, arrest without PC. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 8:29:40 AM EST
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Civliain complaint and Civil rights suit, 4th amendment violation, arrest without PC. That really not my style. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 8:37:43 AM EST
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The call didn't come in thru dispatch. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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From that thread, here an incident and arrest report would be generated. It would have detailed every aspect of the case from the third party reporting, contact, PC for the arrest and your actions during the booking process. The part I was most interested in. Request the 911 call recording and radio dispatch call. The call didn't come in thru dispatch. I thought the cops claimed they received a call about a reckless driver? Regardless, glad charges were dropped. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 8:39:46 AM EST
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I remember the original post and work in law enforcement. My assumption is a report was generated by the arresting officers but did not meet the sniff test of the higher up(s) in the department so it was shit canned - resulting in your case being dismissed.
Edit: Your chances of ever proving something like this are slim though. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 8:42:57 AM EST
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We have gone the full circle thing. From every call has to have a formal written report to only criminal cases get a report. My lawyer said you have to take my report. Your lawyer can pound sand. This is one of my favorites. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 8:45:18 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You got tazed? Well for something like that you'd see a UCR and there would be some internal paperwork as well. There would also be additional charges beyond PI. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Is it safe to assume that anytime someone is arrested that you guys fill out an incident report? Nope. Like I said, you are going to have to be way more specific. When I started here, for traffic arrests and most municipal charges arrests, there was no report, just the traffic citation or the municipal court affidavit (looks pretty much just like a traffic ticket.) So, not a safe assumption at all. I had a mishap a few weeks ago with my local PD which ended up with me spending a few hours in jail for alleged PI, I started a thread here and it turned to shit so I asked for it to be locked and deleted. I went to court for this yesterday with my attorney and all my evidence(video and receipts from lunch). I was there for exactly 10 minutes, the prosecutor asked to speak to my attorney and dismissed my case due to there not being an incident report. I guess this just adds to the other really weird events that happened that day, I really figured if an arrest, tazers, and jail was involved that there would be a incident report. You got tazed? Well for something like that you'd see a UCR and there would be some internal paperwork as well. There would also be additional charges beyond PI. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 8:55:25 AM EST
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I had a mishap a few weeks ago with my local PD which ended up with me spending a few hours in jail for alleged PI, I started a thread here and it turned to shit so I asked for it to be locked and deleted. I went to court for this yesterday with my attorney and all my evidence(video and receipts from lunch). I was there for exactly 10 minutes, the prosecutor asked to speak to my attorney and dismissed my case due to there not being an incident report. I guess this just adds to the other really weird events that happened that day, I really figured if an arrest, tazers, and jail was involved that there would be a incident report. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is it safe to assume that anytime someone is arrested that you guys fill out an incident report? Nope. Like I said, you are going to have to be way more specific. When I started here, for traffic arrests and most municipal charges arrests, there was no report, just the traffic citation or the municipal court affidavit (looks pretty much just like a traffic ticket.) So, not a safe assumption at all. I had a mishap a few weeks ago with my local PD which ended up with me spending a few hours in jail for alleged PI, I started a thread here and it turned to shit so I asked for it to be locked and deleted. I went to court for this yesterday with my attorney and all my evidence(video and receipts from lunch). I was there for exactly 10 minutes, the prosecutor asked to speak to my attorney and dismissed my case due to there not being an incident report. I guess this just adds to the other really weird events that happened that day, I really figured if an arrest, tazers, and jail was involved that there would be a incident report. I dont believe you. None of it. But do keep going as one lock doesnt seem to be enough. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 9:03:22 AM EST
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I dont believe you. None of it. But do keep going as one lock doesnt seem to be enough. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is it safe to assume that anytime someone is arrested that you guys fill out an incident report? Nope. Like I said, you are going to have to be way more specific. When I started here, for traffic arrests and most municipal charges arrests, there was no report, just the traffic citation or the municipal court affidavit (looks pretty much just like a traffic ticket.) So, not a safe assumption at all. I had a mishap a few weeks ago with my local PD which ended up with me spending a few hours in jail for alleged PI, I started a thread here and it turned to shit so I asked for it to be locked and deleted. I went to court for this yesterday with my attorney and all my evidence(video and receipts from lunch). I was there for exactly 10 minutes, the prosecutor asked to speak to my attorney and dismissed my case due to there not being an incident report. I guess this just adds to the other really weird events that happened that day, I really figured if an arrest, tazers, and jail was involved that there would be a incident report. I dont believe you. None of it. But do keep going as one lock doesnt seem to be enough. 
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Posted: 6/2/2016 9:13:37 AM EST
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We have gone the full circle thing. From every call has to have a formal written report to only criminal cases get a report. My lawyer said you have to take my report. Your lawyer can pound sand. This is one of my favorites. I was at a complaint the other day, lady has her lawyer on the phone, My lawyer says you have to make an arrest. Tell your lawyer to come here and make a citizen arrest then. Crickets. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 9:34:45 AM EST
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An incident report can be filled out for any reason.
From, Informational. Neighbors dog pooped in my yard. To, Murder. Man shot and killed in the 3300 block of Cherry Avenue. Even a civil remedy such as, Civil Dispute. Woman buys car used, motor dies same day. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 9:36:15 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was at a complaint the other day, lady has her lawyer on the phone, My lawyer says you have to make an arrest. Tell your lawyer to come here and make a citizen arrest then. Crickets. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: We have gone the full circle thing. From every call has to have a formal written report to only criminal cases get a report. My lawyer said you have to take my report. Your lawyer can pound sand. This is one of my favorites. I was at a complaint the other day, lady has her lawyer on the phone, My lawyer says you have to make an arrest. Tell your lawyer to come here and make a citizen arrest then. Crickets. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 9:49:34 AM EST
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I live in a large, affluent county. Calls come in they at the very least have the number it came from. Most of the time their is a plethora of information on file for even the most mundane calls. Arrest that end up in jail = a fuck ton of documentation.
A much smaller and poorer county next to mine: A call very well may be initiated by someone texting the officers phone. The trip to jail might generate the one page of poorly spelled hand written notes. A good friend of mine who is a large metro police officer got a PI in this referenced county and taken to jail as he quietly watched his kids basketball game. The ex wife texted the officer who then arrested my friend. He was not drunk by any stretch of the imagination, nor was he being belligerent. But in Texas you don't have to be any of the above to get arrested for PI. As I said in the deleted thread, the punishment for PI is the arrest itself. This is obviously very traumatic for a life long good guy as well as embarrassing. The fine is nothing and the record gives one no lasting legal or social disability. It is my opinion that the Texas PI is the "put someone in jail for free card" and the municipal judges that handle these are complicit with it. Not having an incident report gave the judge and PD a perfect out for making this go away. After all, "putting you in your place", and embarrassing you was the goal and had previously been accomplished. Edit: I'm glad the disposition worked out well for you. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 9:55:24 AM EST
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I live in a large, affluent county. Calls come in they at the very least have the number it came from. Most of the time their is a plethora of information on file for even the most mundane calls. Arrest that end up in jail = a fuck ton of documentation. A much smaller and poorer county next to mine: A call very well may be initiated by someone texting the officers phone. The trip to jail might generate the one page of poorly spelled hand written notes. A good friend of mine who is a large metro police officer got a PI in this referenced county and taken to jail as he quietly watched his kids basketball game. The ex wife texted the officer who then arrested my friend. He was not drunk by any stretch of the imagination, nor was he being belligerent. But in Texas you don't have to be any of the above to get arrested for PI. As I said in the deleted thread, the punishment for PI is the arrest itself. This is obviously very traumatic for a life long good guy as well as embarrassing. The fine is nothing and the record gives one no lasting legal or social disability. It is my opinion that the Texas PI is the "put someone in jail for free card" and the municipal judges that handle these are complicit with it. Not having an incident report gave the judge and PD a perfect out for making this go away. After all, "putting you in your place", and embarrassing you was the goal and had previously been accomplished. Edit: I'm glad the disposition worked out well for you. That's absolutely insane and should result in a lawsuit, but if it is as you say their actions have cover of a "law"... I put that in quotes because it's banana republic shit. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 10:02:41 AM EST
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I was at a complaint the other day, lady has her lawyer on the phone, My lawyer says you have to make an arrest. Tell your lawyer to come here and make a citizen arrest then. Crickets. Meh. If I want someone arrested, I'll just go swear out the warrant myself. 
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Posted: 6/2/2016 10:13:57 AM EST
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Is it safe to assume that anytime someone is arrested that you guys fill out an incident report? Nope. Like I said, you are going to have to be way more specific. When I started here, for traffic arrests and most municipal charges arrests, there was no report, just the traffic citation or the municipal court affidavit (looks pretty much just like a traffic ticket.) So, not a safe assumption at all. I had a mishap a few weeks ago with my local PD which ended up with me spending a few hours in jail for alleged PI, I started a thread here and it turned to shit so I asked for it to be locked and deleted. I went to court for this yesterday with my attorney and all my evidence(video and receipts from lunch). I was there for exactly 10 minutes, the prosecutor asked to speak to my attorney and dismissed my case due to there not being an incident report. I guess this just adds to the other really weird events that happened that day, I really figured if an arrest, tazers, and jail was involved that there would be a incident report. I dont believe you. None of it. But do keep going as one lock doesnt seem to be enough. I guess its good thing that I could care less about what you think. The internet is a great place for idiots to comment on things and people that they have no clue about. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 10:25:30 AM EST
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Is it safe to assume that anytime someone is arrested that you guys fill out an incident report? 100% of the time, if there is an arrest there MUST be a report. There is no dept that this is not SOP and if there is one where you can arrest without a report, I'd be astonished. You'd be putting yourself out there for big lawsuit and case law with your name written all over it. Your #1 goal as a police officer, or at least mine was, was to not have any case law with my name in it anywhere. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 10:29:49 AM EST
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Is it safe to assume that anytime someone is arrested that you guys fill out an incident report? Nope. Like I said, you are going to have to be way more specific. When I started here, for traffic arrests and most municipal charges arrests, there was no report, just the traffic citation or the municipal court affidavit (looks pretty much just like a traffic ticket.) So, not a safe assumption at all. I had a mishap a few weeks ago with my local PD which ended up with me spending a few hours in jail for alleged PI, I started a thread here and it turned to shit so I asked for it to be locked and deleted. I went to court for this yesterday with my attorney and all my evidence(video and receipts from lunch). I was there for exactly 10 minutes, the prosecutor asked to speak to my attorney and dismissed my case due to there not being an incident report. I guess this just adds to the other really weird events that happened that day, I really figured if an arrest, tazers, and jail was involved that there would be a incident report. You got tazed? Well for something like that you'd see a UCR and there would be some internal paperwork as well. There would also be additional charges beyond PI. I didn't get tazed but they drew down on me with one. Ugh, if anything force related happened during a call, I wrote a report. If my gun, tazer, or mace left the holster I was writing a report. It was covering my ass. If you had a tazer drawn on you, cuffs hit your wrists, you went downtown and we're later released or especially bonded out, there had to have been a report. If there wasn't one, someone colossally fucked up. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 10:33:07 AM EST
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Ugh, if anything force related happened during a call, I wrote a report. If my gun, tazer, or mace left the holster I was writing a report. It was covering my ass. If you had a tazer drawn on you, cuffs hit your wrists, you went downtown and we're later released or especially bonded out, there had to have been a report. If there wasn't one, someone colossally fucked up. All of that happened with the exception of the bonding out part, I was released a few hours after I was admitted. I was very angry when it happened but I am over it now. I still trying to piece together exactly what happened that day. |
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