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Posted: 7/9/2019 3:59:23 PM EST
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At the macro level, perhaps. Obviously he had some internal knowledge of initial efforts circa turn of the century but he lacks the credentials and access to make definitive statements on things from which he is at least three generations removed. He left with a personal axe to grind and has been grinding away ever since. Don't muddy the waters by trying to infer that my distaste for Binney implies support for other things. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I posted the first Seth Rich/email leak theory on Arf the morning after he was killed. Hadn't seen anything about it elsewhere, the possible connection leaps out at anybody completely without Russian help. No kidding. The fact that there was a massive data breach in December of 2015 between the Sanders and Clinton campaigns, and that the Sanders campaign voter data people said this had been happening before, was reported to the DNC (who did nothing), sets the stage for major questions that the presstitutes ignored. Sanders campaign was blamed and his voter data director was fired. Then Wikileaks dumps came in March. The NSA has said that the Wikileaks Podesta emails are not part of a phishing attack, but from someone who had direct access to DNC servers with a data storage device. Trying to blame this on the SVR is pure BS steering away from holding Clinton and the DNC responsible for their crimes, including rigging the election, rigging the debates, discussing laundry lists of presstitutes willing to slavishly do Hillary's bidding, many of whom voluntarily approached Podesta and Mooks with their adoration and willingness to print any story Hillary wanted. I'm sure most of these presstitutes have SVR ideological warfare handlers upwind of the editors and directors within the disinformation brothels, but the SVR was not the lead on the Seth Rich story. Anyone with a brain immediately raised a red flag on the Seth Rich murder. They say someone used a memory stick to locally download the stuff from the DNC a few hours after Comey did his press conference. Seth Rich was shot 5 days later. About ten days after that Shawn Lucas, another DNC staffer, who served the DNC with a Fraud lawsuit (the Judge ruled political parties are allowed to defraud voters) was found dead in his home. It has been reported that Rich and Lucas knew each other. Anyway here is a story from several years back. https://consortiumnews.com/2017/07/24/intel-vets-challenge-russia-hack-evidence/ William Binney reference. Drink. Do another one, tell me Trump colluded with Russia because yahoo news and Adam Schiff says so. I mean, you were once a true believer yourself. Kinda had a come to jesus (or Magog) moment some years back. Benny was on the right side of that too. I get you don't like him for harelipping the NSA and ruining the patriot act party, but I trust him on this. Don't muddy the waters by trying to infer that my distaste for Binney implies support for other things. He said it was dangerous to give government the spy stuff it has, we had a coup because it was dangerous. |
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Posted: 7/9/2019 3:59:42 PM EST
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I can always tell the truth when the same troll posters rush to say it’s not true. Ups my confidence that rich was murdered for providing Wikileaks the dnc emails.
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Posted: 7/9/2019 3:59:59 PM EST
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Well, there's people on this very website that believe and internet troll from 4chan is saving the world from Satanic Child-eaters with Fox News links and memes. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It constantly amazes me that there actually are people in America who know about what happened to Seth Rich, are aware of all the controversies, and still choose to believe the "robbery gone bad" line. |
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Posted: 7/9/2019 4:00:52 PM EST
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So let me see if I understand you correctly. You spent all of 2017, 2018, and part of 2019 telling this board that Trump is finished, his inner circle is criminal, and russia effectively has a puppet in the white house, and now I have to prove you wrong? Well then, what kind of sources should I seek that you'll accept as credible? comedy central? msnbc? cnn? yahoo? huffington post? Honk Honk Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I posted the first Seth Rich/email leak theory on Arf the morning after he was killed. Hadn't seen anything about it elsewhere, the possible connection leaps out at anybody completely without Russian help. No kidding. Well then, what kind of sources should I seek that you'll accept as credible? comedy central? msnbc? cnn? yahoo? huffington post? Honk Honk Should be easy, right? |
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Posted: 7/9/2019 4:01:23 PM EST
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The author, Michael Isikoff, is a hardcore leftist who will write only what serves the leftist agenda. |
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Posted: 7/9/2019 4:03:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: All I meant was, No one in the business wants someone on the outside drawing attention to them. Someone will be along shortly to twist that statement into something it is not. |
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Posted: 7/9/2019 4:04:17 PM EST
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Who or what is VIPS? They claim the DNC hack was internal.
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Posted: 7/9/2019 4:04:53 PM EST
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Every time someone close to the Clintons dies we all think it. We don’t need Russians to help.
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Posted: 7/9/2019 4:05:59 PM EST
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If the deep state wanted this story to go away for good this is how they'd do it....anyone from here on out that calls for an investigation into this and the Clinton/FBHO involment is a 'Russian asset' or a kook.
Diabolically brilliant move. Worked for pizza gate so why not keep doing it? |
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Posted: 7/9/2019 4:06:23 PM EST
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Who or what is VIPS? They claim the DNC hack was internal. Binney and another kook put out a statement on VIPS' behalf without consulting the rest of the group. The basis of their memo - this "Forensicator" guy - was found to be an internet troll in Britian who made up the analysis. Even Binney has now disavowed the conclusions. But apparently that didn't make it to the kiddies on Reddit which is why it keeps getting reposted here. |
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Posted: 7/9/2019 4:06:31 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Many things are secrets for good and proper reasons. No more, no less. Someone will be along shortly to twist that statement into something it is not. |
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Posted: 7/9/2019 4:09:10 PM EST
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Read my link from the previous page. Binney and another kook put out a statement on VIPS' behalf without consulting the rest of the group. The basis of their memo - this "Forensicator" guy - was found to be an internet troll in Britian who made up the analysis. Even Binney has now disavowed the conclusions. But apparently that didn't make it to the kiddies on Reddit which is why it keeps getting reposted here. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Who or what is VIPS? They claim the DNC hack was internal. Binney and another kook put out a statement on VIPS' behalf without consulting the rest of the group. The basis of their memo - this "Forensicator" guy - was found to be an internet troll in Britian who made up the analysis. Even Binney has now disavowed the conclusions. But apparently that didn't make it to the kiddies on Reddit which is why it keeps getting reposted here. |
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Posted: 7/9/2019 4:09:37 PM EST
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Posted: 7/9/2019 4:11:01 PM EST
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Posted: 7/9/2019 4:12:57 PM EST
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OK. Is it not true though that no evidence has yet to be found that Russia hacked the DNC? So aren't we basically at the "no one knows" stage still? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Who or what is VIPS? They claim the DNC hack was internal. Binney and another kook put out a statement on VIPS' behalf without consulting the rest of the group. The basis of their memo - this "Forensicator" guy - was found to be an internet troll in Britian who made up the analysis. Even Binney has now disavowed the conclusions. But apparently that didn't make it to the kiddies on Reddit which is why it keeps getting reposted here. |
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Posted: 7/9/2019 4:13:52 PM EST
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Posted: 7/9/2019 4:14:05 PM EST
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If the deep state wanted this story to go away for good this is how they'd do it....anyone from here on out that calls for an investigation into this and the Clinton/FBHO involment is a 'Russian asset' or a kook. Diabolically brilliant move. Worked for pizza gate so why not keep doing it? Eta: "In her efforts to better understand where the conspiracy theories were coming from, Sines used her security clearance to access copies of two SVR intelligence reports about Seth Rich that had been intercepted by U.S. intelligence officials. She later wrote a memo documenting the Russian role in fomenting the conspiracy theories that she sent to the Justice Department’s national security division, and personally briefed special counsel Robert Mueller’s prosecutors on her findings." |
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Posted: 7/9/2019 4:16:40 PM EST
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These are the facts.
Someone with physical access to DNC servers stole and distributed the info to Wikileaks. Proof of this is the data transfer rate, there’s no way it could have been done remotely at the speed the files were downloaded. Only Julian Assange knows the whistleblowers true identity. He’s already stated he won’t reveal sources. It would ruin his integrity and trust, future leakers would not come forward then. The speculation It was Seth Rich who leaked as hey had access to the files. He coincidentally/strangely shot himself in the back of the head.. twice shortly after the leak. DNC: Russia Russia Russia hacked our servers DNC mouth piece MSM: It was a planted conspiracy that Seth Rich was the leaker. You decide whoever telling the truth. |
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Posted: 7/9/2019 4:18:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You've got a chance to prove me wrong right now. Go for it. |
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Posted: 7/9/2019 4:19:40 PM EST
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Believe what you want, but proof it was anything more than a botched robbery is lacking.
Could he have been whacked by the DNC? It's possible, just unlikely based on the evidence. And sorry, nothing being stolen does not mean it was a hit. |
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Posted: 7/9/2019 4:20:47 PM EST
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Posted: 7/9/2019 4:22:45 PM EST
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Believe what you want, but proof it was anything more than a botched robbery is lacking. Could he have been whacked by the DNC? It's possible, just unlikely based on the evidence. And sorry, nothing being stolen does not mean it was a hit. This new article is too coincidental. Their attempt to gaslight is not working for many. |
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Posted: 7/9/2019 4:26:21 PM EST
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I've never gotten a solid handle on the veracity of this one, but... Here ya go: D.C. surgeon who operated on Seth Rich: 'The DNC staffer was alive and well after surgery, before a group of LEOs showed up to the ICU' DNC staffer's plug pulled in ICU? By Shepard Ambellas - May 22, 2017 WASHINGTON (INTELLIHUB) A 4-year resident surgeon at Washington Hospital Center claims that Seth Rich was alive and recovering well in facility's Intensive Care Unit (ICU) after being treated for a total of 3 routine gunshot wounds that is until a number of law enforcement officers arrived eight hours later kicking most everyone out of the ICU and physically barring doctors and others from attending to Rich. The surgeon who witnessed this bizarre behavior decided to come forth with the information despite the fact that he or she may be easy to identify. Posted on May 17, to 4chan under the anonymous ID: "rhotYJAg," the surgeon wrote: 4th year surgery resident here who rotated at WHC (Washington Hospital Center) last year, it won't be hard to identify me but I feel that I shouldn't stay silent. Seth Rich was shot twice, with 3 total gunshot wounds (entry and exit, and entry). He was taken to the OR emergently where we performed an exlap and found a small injury to segment 3 of the liver which was packed and several small bowel injuries (pretty common for gunshots to the back exiting the abdomen) which we resected ~12cm of bowel and left him in discontinuity (didn't hook everything back up) with the intent of performing a washout in the morning. He did not have any major vascular injuries otherwise. I've seen dozens of worse cases than this which survived and nothing about his injuries suggested to me that he'd sustained a fatal wound. In the meantime he was transferred to the ICU and transfused 2 units of blood when his post-surgery crit came back ~20. He was stable and not on any pressors, and it seemed pretty routine. About 8 hours after he arrived we were swarmed by LEOs and pretty much everyone except the attending and a few nurses was kicked out of the ICU (disallowing visiting hours -normally every odd hour, eg 1am, 3am, etc- is not something we do routinely). It was weird as hell. At turnover that morning we were instructed not to round on the VIP that came in last night (that's exactly what the attending said, and no one except for me and another resident had any idea who he was talking about). No one here was allowed to see Seth except for my attending when he died. No code was called. I rounded on patients literally next door but was physically blocked from checking in on him. I've never seen anything like it before, and while I can't say 100% that he was allowed to die, I don't understand why he was treated like that. Take it how you may, /pol/, I'm just one low level doc. Something's fishy though, that's for sure. If this report is even half-way accurate, I'd like to know two things: Where did Rich actually die, and from what? Other hand, it could be bullshit, but I can't tell, from evidence, whether it is or not. If so there needs to be an extermination event @ DC Metro not to mention the Clanton gang plus the Run D N C clan of fools. |
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Posted: 7/9/2019 4:26:51 PM EST
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Same people who told us for over 2 years...HRC didn't lose because the Dem/Globalist ideas sucked and American voters chose pro American Trump instead...it was because of RUSSIA!!!
So when does this whole 'Russia' BS story get called a vast false miss-information conspiracy meant to overthrow a US presidential election using deep state/Dem/MSM/Russia collusion get 'revealed' BTW? Once that house of cards fall then all these BS attempts to cover up everything connected to it does too...thats why they can't let that happen. |
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Posted: 7/9/2019 4:30:52 PM EST
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These are the facts. Someone with physical access to DNC servers stole and distributed the info to Wikileaks. Proof of this is the data transfer rate, there’s no way it could have been done remotely at the speed the files were downloaded. Only Julian Assange knows the whistleblowers true identity. He’s already stated he won’t reveal sources. It would ruin his integrity and trust, future leakers would not come forward then. The speculation It was Seth Rich who leaked as hey had access to the files. He coincidentally/strangely shot himself in the back of the head.. twice shortly after the leak. DNC: Russia Russia Russia hacked our servers DNC mouth piece MSM: It was a planted conspiracy that Seth Rich was the leaker. You decide whoever telling the truth. |
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Posted: 7/9/2019 4:32:36 PM EST
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MSM is full of shit on this one.
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Posted: 7/9/2019 5:19:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Does anybody know if they're hiring? 'Cause that actually sounds kind of fun - doing nothing but shitposting all day long and getting paid for it? I'm just sayin'. The fact that the White House was trying to get Trump campaigner dirt from the Ukrainians well before the election is all I need to know that this whole “Russia did it” is bullshit. Russia can’t afford a burger and fries. It was the CIA under Brennan and at the direction of the former President that thought this whole ruse up. Brennan is a traitorous turd. |
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Posted: 7/9/2019 5:20:36 PM EST
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That first part seems like a good indicator of it being internal. Got a source? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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These are the facts. Someone with physical access to DNC servers stole and distributed the info to Wikileaks. Proof of this is the data transfer rate, there’s no way it could have been done remotely at the speed the files were downloaded. Only Julian Assange knows the whistleblowers true identity. He’s already stated he won’t reveal sources. It would ruin his integrity and trust, future leakers would not come forward then. The speculation It was Seth Rich who leaked as hey had access to the files. He coincidentally/strangely shot himself in the back of the head.. twice shortly after the leak. DNC: Russia Russia Russia hacked our servers DNC mouth piece MSM: It was a planted conspiracy that Seth Rich was the leaker. You decide whoever telling the truth. more on that. https://disobedientmedia.com/2017/07/new-research-shows-guccifer-2-0-files-were-copied-locally-not-hacked/ The same guy who wrote the story for FusionGPS to Justify a FISA on Carter Page wrote this story. 
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Posted: 7/9/2019 5:23:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There is no statement of such by the NSA. Furthermore, the Podesta email data breach was an entirely separate incident from the DNC / DCCC email breach - although the GRU was responsible for it as well. His email account was hosted by Google. Anyone conflating the two clearly doesn't know what they are talking about. Unless someone wants to say that Seth Rich wandered into a Google datacenter and somehow downloaded that data, too. lol |
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Posted: 7/9/2019 5:26:58 PM EST
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Yeah. it's what John Podesta wants you to think.
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Posted: 7/9/2019 5:29:32 PM EST
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Thot the DNC had him wacked because he knew too much. |
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Posted: 7/9/2019 5:34:01 PM EST
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MSM is full of shit on this one. |
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Posted: 7/9/2019 5:37:35 PM EST
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Posted: 7/9/2019 5:47:38 PM EST
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A statement from the NSA would work - since the existence of such was claimed to exist. Should be easy, right? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I posted the first Seth Rich/email leak theory on Arf the morning after he was killed. Hadn't seen anything about it elsewhere, the possible connection leaps out at anybody completely without Russian help. No kidding. Well then, what kind of sources should I seek that you'll accept as credible? comedy central? msnbc? cnn? yahoo? huffington post? Honk Honk Should be easy, right? There. Since that level of proof you offered for the whole russia collusion theory i figure its more than enough. |
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Posted: 7/9/2019 5:52:11 PM EST
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MSM is full of shit on this one. |
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Posted: 7/9/2019 5:58:29 PM EST
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Never mind that in the interview he did, Assange CLEARLY wanted to say it was Seth Rich. You could see it on his face after he mentioned Rich had been murdered and their sources take risks.
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Posted: 7/9/2019 5:59:16 PM EST
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MSM is full of shit on this one. It is owned by a Russian! If you can't believe a Russian about Russians then you are obviously uninformed. |
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Posted: 7/9/2019 5:59:28 PM EST
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Russia Russia Russia!
It all makes sense now! Scapegoat Russia for EVERYTHING!! |
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Posted: 7/9/2019 6:08:43 PM EST
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Mueller's team was just wrecked by the judge handling the Concord case, internet troll farm case, looks like muh Russia is falling apart more and more. Looks like you can't just write things in reports and hope nobody notices that what you're writing are lies.
Judge Friedrich continued, "In short, the Court concludes that the government violated Rule 57.7 by making or authorizing the release of public statements that linked the defendants' alleged activities to the Russian government and provided an opinion about the defendants' guilt and the evidence against them. |
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Posted: 7/9/2019 6:10:43 PM EST
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Mueller's team was just wrecked by the judge handling the Concord case, internet troll farm case, looks like muh Russia is falling apart more and more. Looks like you can't just write things in reports and hope nobody notices that what you're writing are lies. I remember telling team "we_waz_IC_kangz" about something called prosecutorial misconduct. Mueller's disinformation campaign to absolve the Stasi FBI is weak. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Mueller's team was just wrecked by the judge handling the Concord case, internet troll farm case, looks like muh Russia is falling apart more and more. Looks like you can't just write things in reports and hope nobody notices that what you're writing are lies. Judge Friedrich continued, "In short, the Court concludes that the government violated Rule 57.7 by making or authorizing the release of public statements that linked the defendants' alleged activities to the Russian government and provided an opinion about the defendants' guilt and the evidence against them. |
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Posted: 7/9/2019 6:14:38 PM EST
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I believe “Marble” is one of the CIA tools used in spoofing that contractors had access to. That code in particular makes hacking forensic investigators believe that the source hacks were committed in another language like say...Russian
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Posted: 7/9/2019 6:19:16 PM EST
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Did I miss something?
I thought the Seth Rich story was dead and buried. Why are they suddenly wanting to blame the Russians? I mean, other than RUSSIANS!!! 
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Posted: 7/9/2019 6:20:12 PM EST
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I believe “Marble” is one of the CIA tools used in spoofing that contractors had access to. That code in particular makes hacking forensic investigators believe that the source hacks were committed in another language like say...Russian |
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Posted: 7/9/2019 6:24:18 PM EST
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Did I miss something? I thought the Seth Rich story was dead and buried. Why are they suddenly wanting to blame the Russians? I mean, other than RUSSIANS!!! 
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Posted: 7/9/2019 6:27:21 PM EST
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Herr Hitlery and/or Skippy ordered the hit.
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Posted: 7/9/2019 6:41:03 PM EST
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Posted: 7/9/2019 6:42:26 PM EST
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Posted: 7/9/2019 6:50:56 PM EST
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They don’t pay well from what Mueller found...a total of something like $1500 of fake facebook trolling....that’s all Mueller could indict on and then when the judge asked for his evidentiary findings he choked. The fact that the White House was trying to get Trump campaigner dirt from the Ukrainians well before the election is all I need to know that this whole “Russia did it” is bullshit. Russia can’t afford a burger and fries. It was the CIA under Brennan and at the direction of the former President that thought this whole ruse up. Brennan is a traitorous turd. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Does anybody know if they're hiring? 'Cause that actually sounds kind of fun - doing nothing but shitposting all day long and getting paid for it? I'm just sayin'. The fact that the White House was trying to get Trump campaigner dirt from the Ukrainians well before the election is all I need to know that this whole “Russia did it” is bullshit. Russia can’t afford a burger and fries. It was the CIA under Brennan and at the direction of the former President that thought this whole ruse up. Brennan is a traitorous turd. They will purposely find the most hot button issues and bombard social media trying to create in-fighting by taking the most extreme points of view. Their goal is to divide us and weaken the US from within. Please read this book, it's become required reading for top Russian political/military staff since the 2000s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics Its publication in 1997 was well-received in Russia and powerful Russian political figures subsequently took an interest in Dugin,[3] a Russian eurasianist, fascist[4] and nationalist[5] who has developed a close relationship with Russia's Academy of the General Staff.[6]
Dugin credits General Nikolai Klokotov of the Academy of the General Staff as co-author and main inspiration,[7] though Klokotov denies this.[2] Colonel General Leonid Ivashov, head of the International Department of the Russian Ministry of Defence, helped draft the book.  Klokotov stated that in the future the book would "serve as a mighty ideological foundation for preparing a new military command".[9] Dugin has asserted that the book has been adopted as a textbook in many Russian educational institutions.[1] Former speaker of the Russian State Duma, Gennadiy Seleznyov, for whom Dugin was adviser on geopolitics,[10] has "urged that Dugin's geopolitical doctrine be made a compulsory part of the school curriculum".[9] In the United States: Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States to fuel instability and separatism, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists". Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics".[9] It's the equivalent of an entire country trying to actively troll. |
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Posted: 7/9/2019 6:52:57 PM EST
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Communist media diverting attention from democratic elites.
Shocking. |
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Posted: 7/9/2019 6:53:30 PM EST
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