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Quoted: Sounds like that fire department needs a bigger flag. View Quote I can understand if there are some kind of regulations detailing what can and cannot be part of a marked unit or uniform. We have that with our cruisers and uniforms as Ohio Deputy Sheriffs. But I somehow fail to believe that fire departments are regulated so tightly on their equipment markings. So Mr. Whineypants McLeftist can go sit on a sharp stick. |
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Moral equivalency, right out of the lefts playbook.
Its discouraging though that more people aren't outraged by this kind of bullshit and start calling assholes out on this shit and marginalize their stupid opinions. |
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A flag represents the people who are flying it. Equating American patriotism to ISIS subversion and terrorism is completely asinine. We live in America where individual freedoms are sacred and should be proud of it. Displaying the American flag, state flag, or local seal on official vehicles is appropriate.
Having said that though, I don't think flying a flag from a moving vehicle is a good idea. They are going to get dirty, smoky, and tattered. On a fire truck in particular with the ladders, hoses, and other equipment being slung around a flag could become entangled and cause problems. A flag decal on the truck would be sufficient. |
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http://turnto10.com/news/local/central-coventry-fire-district-asked-to-remove-american-flags-from-trucks Firefighters and their supporters said it started last year when Fire District Chairman Fred Gralinski likened the flags on the trucks to what you see from terrorists. "They look like a bunch of yahoos," Gralinski said at a board meeting. "Like in the paper, like ISIS is Syria going to take over a city. I don't think they need that big flag on the back of the truck. That's not America to me. Those are a bunch of terrorists. So, I'm going to ask you to take the flag off the truck." View Quote The last time I read the rules on flag etiquette, they stated that using the American flag as decoration on vehicles, except for specially designated vehicles, was considered disrespectful. It is a national symbol, not a toy or hello kitty bumper sticker. Maybe it comes from the fact that most vehicles that display the flags wind up with tattered pieces of rags. |
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Weak. We have a flag on a pole hanging off the back of our ladder truck. It is properly secured, hangs high enough it doesn't get soap on it, and gets removed and replaced when it starts to show signs of wear. Few things more inspiring than seeing that flag flying when the truck goes by with lights and sirens on the way to fight a fire. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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OK. I ride on fire trucks quite frequently. They get dirty, really dirty and cleaned sometimes multiple times a day. I do not like the American Flag hung on the back of the trucks. I think the flag should be on the trucks for parades and funerals only. I had a drawn out argument/discussion with the guys at work. Some saw my point, others did not. I do not see it as the flag getting worn down, but more disrespected. It is crudely attached with zipties. It does not get taken off for washing the truck. Getting soaped up and brushed up almost like it is part of the truck and not the American Flag. Just my opinion and we all know everyone has one. Would I order it off the truck as a officer. No We took a vote and now display a flag on the back of the trucks for special events. meh Weak. We have a flag on a pole hanging off the back of our ladder truck. It is properly secured, hangs high enough it doesn't get soap on it, and gets removed and replaced when it starts to show signs of wear. Few things more inspiring than seeing that flag flying when the truck goes by with lights and sirens on the way to fight a fire. Few things are less inspiring than random vehicles driving around with flags that have clearly been shown no respect and are often tattered and dirty. |
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"They look like a bunch of yahoos," Gralinski said at a board meeting. "Like in the paper, like ISIS is Syria going to take over a city. I don't think they need that big flag on the back of the truck. That's not America to me. Those are a bunch of terrorists. So, I'm going to ask you to take the flag off the truck."
So flying an American flag isnt American? Have people really become this stupid? |
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"They look like a bunch of yahoos," Gralinski said at a board meeting. "Like in the paper, like ISIS is Syria going to take over a city. I don't think they need that big flag on the back of the truck. That's not America to me. Those are a bunch of terrorists. So, I'm going to ask you to take the flag off the truck." So flying an American flag isnt American? Have people really become this stupid? View Quote It isn't particularly respectful when most of those flags on vehicles wind up looking like shit rags that you wouldn't even use to clean the floor. |
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Offend the majority so you don't offend the minority. Got it. |
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My lefty brother in law was upset at the "nationalism" shown by all the people a few years back flying American flags on the back of their pickups. There was a nearby apartment that had a huge Mexican flag. Doubt that "nationalism" bothered him. View Quote I love trucks, that's what I drive. I love the flag, I fly one at my house, and I've helped carry our flag all over the world. But... In my experience, most people who you see with full-sized America (and other flags) on pick up trucks on ordinary occasions are idiots. If you're going to the 4th of July Parade, or lining a funeral procession route... Awesome. If you're driving to Walmart on Wednesday? Probably an idiot. |
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Quoted: The last time I read the rules on flag etiquette, they stated that using the American flag as decoration on vehicles, except for specially designated vehicles, was considered disrespectful. It is a national symbol, not a toy or hello kitty bumper sticker. Maybe it comes from the fact that most vehicles that display the flags wind up with tattered pieces of rags. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: http://turnto10.com/news/local/central-coventry-fire-district-asked-to-remove-american-flags-from-trucks Firefighters and their supporters said it started last year when Fire District Chairman Fred Gralinski likened the flags on the trucks to what you see from terrorists. "They look like a bunch of yahoos," Gralinski said at a board meeting. "Like in the paper, like ISIS is Syria going to take over a city. I don't think they need that big flag on the back of the truck. That's not America to me. Those are a bunch of terrorists. So, I'm going to ask you to take the flag off the truck." The last time I read the rules on flag etiquette, they stated that using the American flag as decoration on vehicles, except for specially designated vehicles, was considered disrespectful. It is a national symbol, not a toy or hello kitty bumper sticker. Maybe it comes from the fact that most vehicles that display the flags wind up with tattered pieces of rags. |
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(Edit-cleaned up) The value is not in flags, it is who and what they represent. Kinda like tools have a value in how they are used.. You know real complicated stuff Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile View Quote It is, to our nation of self absorbed mental midgets who lack common sense and the ability to reason. A.W.D. |
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Quoted: It isn't particularly respectful when most of those flags on vehicles wind up looking like shit rags that you wouldn't even use to clean the floor. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: "They look like a bunch of yahoos," Gralinski said at a board meeting. "Like in the paper, like ISIS is Syria going to take over a city. I don't think they need that big flag on the back of the truck. That's not America to me. Those are a bunch of terrorists. So, I'm going to ask you to take the flag off the truck." So flying an American flag isnt American? Have people really become this stupid? It isn't particularly respectful when most of those flags on vehicles wind up looking like shit rags that you wouldn't even use to clean the floor. I have never seen a flag on a fire truck get anywhere near tatterd condition. They have all been in great condition. |
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Fire trucks are generally maintained in spotless condition. They also don't get that much use. I have yet to see one out in the rain unless it's on the way to save someone's chimney and foundation. And I've never seen one with a ripped up American Flag dragging along behind it. Firemen have way too much time on their hands to let something get that tattered. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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http://turnto10.com/news/local/central-coventry-fire-district-asked-to-remove-american-flags-from-trucks Firefighters and their supporters said it started last year when Fire District Chairman Fred Gralinski likened the flags on the trucks to what you see from terrorists. "They look like a bunch of yahoos," Gralinski said at a board meeting. "Like in the paper, like ISIS is Syria going to take over a city. I don't think they need that big flag on the back of the truck. That's not America to me. Those are a bunch of terrorists. So, I'm going to ask you to take the flag off the truck." The last time I read the rules on flag etiquette, they stated that using the American flag as decoration on vehicles, except for specially designated vehicles, was considered disrespectful. It is a national symbol, not a toy or hello kitty bumper sticker. Maybe it comes from the fact that most vehicles that display the flags wind up with tattered pieces of rags. Displaying it on the ass-end of a vehicle is a violation of flag etiquette rules right there. So, if they are going to do it, then they should do it correctly. And nearly all of the flags that I have seen displayed on vehicles wound up looking like things you wouldn't wipe your ass with. YMMV. |
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They should take the flag off the truck.
And wrap the whole fucking rig with an American flag vinyl wrap. With a big screaming bald eagle on the front of the truck. 'Murica....... Bitches! |
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I have never seen a flag on a fire truck get anywhere near tatterd condition. They have all been in great condition. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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"They look like a bunch of yahoos," Gralinski said at a board meeting. "Like in the paper, like ISIS is Syria going to take over a city. I don't think they need that big flag on the back of the truck. That's not America to me. Those are a bunch of terrorists. So, I'm going to ask you to take the flag off the truck." So flying an American flag isnt American? Have people really become this stupid? It isn't particularly respectful when most of those flags on vehicles wind up looking like shit rags that you wouldn't even use to clean the floor. I have never seen a flag on a fire truck get anywhere near tatterd condition. They have all been in great condition. I can't recall seeing an American flag on any fire engine outside of a parade. I guess most firemen don't find them particularly useful on a work truck. As for all the other flags I have seen on vehicles, 90+ percent of them look like complete shit. |
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Way too close to home for me. This fuckhead was my neighbor. My dad still has his cell#.
His kids were also chuckle fucks, here is one (felon of course). My dad caught them taking apart a fire hydrant in the neighborhood and putting fireworks in them. Shot at me with BB guns too when I was riding around on my big wheel. http://patch.com/rhode-island/coventry/gralinski-family-supports-calling-firefighters-terrorists-removing-flags-apparatus I walked my dog by his house every day. I still am blown away by this whole fuckin thing. Fuck Multiple veterans in the neighborhood. Looks like Fred hasn't moved. Some TLDR Two people commented on the Cranston Scanner post in support of Fred Gralinski’s use of the word "terrorists” in describing firefighters. Those two people were Ryan and Brett Gralinski who are the sons of Fred Gralinski. Ryan Gralinski simply commented and said, "The firemen are terrorists”. Brett Gralinski, however, went much further. Much of what Brett Gralinski commented has to be read slowly and interpreted due to the enormous amount of spelling errors and grammatical problems. Much of what he said is unintelligible. Brett Gralinski says, "F*ck the flag and f*ck you. You’re pathetic.” He goes on to say that humans are inherently pathetic and says that he is pathetic too. He states, "If you were not (pathetic) then you wouldn’t give 2 sh*ts about a flag on a fire truck”. According to Brett, the flag is nothing more than a way to divide and conquer and that nationalism is a scam to "trick people into self-destruction”. View Quote Fuck guys this shit really fucking bothers me. |
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http://www.centralcoventryfd.com/
Hmmmm, their website isn't working. Wonder why?? |
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Weak. We have a flag on a pole hanging off the back of our ladder truck. It is properly secured, hangs high enough it doesn't get soap on it, and gets removed and replaced when it starts to show signs of wear. Few things more inspiring than seeing that flag flying when the truck goes by with lights and sirens on the way to fight a fire. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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OK. I ride on fire trucks quite frequently. They get dirty, really dirty and cleaned sometimes multiple times a day. I do not like the American Flag hung on the back of the trucks. I think the flag should be on the trucks for parades and funerals only. I had a drawn out argument/discussion with the guys at work. Some saw my point, others did not. I do not see it as the flag getting worn down, but more disrespected. It is crudely attached with zipties. It does not get taken off for washing the truck. Getting soaped up and brushed up almost like it is part of the truck and not the American Flag. Just my opinion and we all know everyone has one. Would I order it off the truck as a officer. No We took a vote and now display a flag on the back of the trucks for special events. meh Weak. We have a flag on a pole hanging off the back of our ladder truck. It is properly secured, hangs high enough it doesn't get soap on it, and gets removed and replaced when it starts to show signs of wear. Few things more inspiring than seeing that flag flying when the truck goes by with lights and sirens on the way to fight a fire. That's how it is with the fire engines here. He must work for a pretty lame fire department. |
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Quoted: Displaying it on the ass-end of a vehicle is a violation of flag etiquette rules right there. So, if they are going to do it, then they should do it correctly. And nearly all of the flags that I have seen displayed on vehicles wound up looking like things you wouldn't wipe your ass with. YMMV. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: http://turnto10.com/news/local/central-coventry-fire-district-asked-to-remove-american-flags-from-trucks Firefighters and their supporters said it started last year when Fire District Chairman Fred Gralinski likened the flags on the trucks to what you see from terrorists. "They look like a bunch of yahoos," Gralinski said at a board meeting. "Like in the paper, like ISIS is Syria going to take over a city. I don't think they need that big flag on the back of the truck. That's not America to me. Those are a bunch of terrorists. So, I'm going to ask you to take the flag off the truck." The last time I read the rules on flag etiquette, they stated that using the American flag as decoration on vehicles, except for specially designated vehicles, was considered disrespectful. It is a national symbol, not a toy or hello kitty bumper sticker. Maybe it comes from the fact that most vehicles that display the flags wind up with tattered pieces of rags. Displaying it on the ass-end of a vehicle is a violation of flag etiquette rules right there. So, if they are going to do it, then they should do it correctly. And nearly all of the flags that I have seen displayed on vehicles wound up looking like things you wouldn't wipe your ass with. YMMV. |
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