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Do you have any CoD skills or are you just bluster and emojis?

I'm more of a Battlefield 4 man myself....

Goes on diatribe painting GD as dumb and full of fools, then pounds chest for masterminding a thread that fools GD.  You're so smart bro....

No.

I doubt O'Neill has any better access to experiment results or a better grasp of physics than we do.

I've heard a lot of gun derp over the years from .mil and LEO guys. That guy on Future Weapons being one.  I don't think they are more prone to it. But it's pretty clear that being .mil or LEO doesn't magically grant special insight or knowledge and so I don't just assume they know what they are talking about when it comes to ballistics and so forth.

Peterglenho is both training for a different type of war and sad that this thread exists.

But you are stating as fact what pointman "apparently" told someone. O'Neill directly contradicts that. O'Neill says pointman took a shot or two but tackles the women when he and pointman entered the room and that he dropped OBL, who was standing behind a wife. O'Neill says that pointman was verbally unsure if he had even hit the figure he shot at. Apparently there was even uncertainty as to who peeked out.

I don't think that account, as attributed to pointman, is implausible nor do i think it a lie. But O'Neill' account is also plausible. And there are plenty of people who capitalize and profit off what really did happen in historic events. So I can't just conclude that "I know O'Neill is lying because he's making $". It's not so black and white.

I also believe that the Obama administration may have wanted OBL to have been cowering behind his wife with an AK so it would look better (In public relations terms) than SEALs busting in and executing a surprised and unarmed enemy and so those details got added in. I also believe they may not have wanted it aired out that SEALs intentionally shot up and mutilated OBL's corpse.

I readily admit to a lot of possibilities. I just don't trust anyone, even anonymous people who claim to have been told "what really happened" by anonymous pointman. I can see why some people are pissed at O'Neill enough to lie about what happened and make pointman the shooter who won't/can't profit just to preserve the "we win and lose as a team" credo.

At the end of the day, anyone and everyone connected with the affair could have a motive for lying. So I'm not going to go around calling O'Neill a liar when I'm not sure he is one. However, I have no problem not liking the fact that he's out there singularly profiting off the accomplish of his whole team. I think he deserves all that heat.

I pity the fucker trying to get up my stairs if I grab my Benelli loaded with buckshot.


But my bedside gun is an AR with a white light and a silencer.

O'Neill is a faggot for shooting UBL in the face and fucking up identification.

Ever wonder if that had something to do with the photos not being released?

Obviously.

bull hockey......video after video after video shows speed is the key.....and M193 penetrates CII body armor like butter....it penetrates 1/4 steel like butter and then yaws and turns your insides into jello.

That's not me making the claim .....its the YouTube warriors like Chopping Block and Taanofolupagus (or what ever his name is) showing you ballistic tests against  denim; cII-cIII armor plate; and setting you straight.