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I am up and running on nolimitdata. I got the 500Gb AT&T plan. Nice to get back to better speeds. I'm at 15 up and 44 down now. Yes it is more pricey that OTR but the fact that they actually called me direct to work my setup tells me the customer service will be night and day from OTR. I think once the fog clears on all the changeover with OTR they'll jack their prices up anyway. I was paying $60 a month for 5Gb of data through HughesNet, so I'll take $40 extra to get 500Gb with these speeds.
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Quoted: Wouldn't it be awesome when this is crisis is over, if we trained and employed some of the many who will need it to install fiber optic across our great land? Seems like a better plan than just sending checks around. We're way behind countries, that are way behind us. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Yeah, my daily cell service for me and the wife is Verizon. I get insane speeds at my house, like 70+mbps with carrier aggregation, but it’s useless because they don’t have any unlimited plans that don’t throttle the shit out of you and especially with hotspot data. If they’d offer true unlimited data/speed I’d be in immediately, even at $100 a month or more. Unfortunately they aren’t going to. Wouldn't it be awesome when this is crisis is over, if we trained and employed some of the many who will need it to install fiber optic across our great land? Seems like a better plan than just sending checks around. We're way behind countries, that are way behind us. I live in the very corner of my county. I’m less than 2 miles from 3 other counties. Unluckily for me I’m in the wrong one for fiber optic internet access. One county away they have an electric co-op that ran fiber to every customer. Those lucky bumpkins have gigabit speeds way out in the boonies. I’m stuck with a big asshole electric company, and there is no way they are doing it. |
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Quoted: https://www.visible.com/ A few things: - They are an unlimited cell phone plan, they are not sold as a replacement for home internet but it I don't see it as a violation of their ToS either. Getting them up and running on a mofi4500 was not hard but also may take a little more footwork than some (I'll get into that below) plus there is going to be an upfront equipment cost. - You get the price cheaper by adding multiple lines via their friends and family plan. It starts out at $40, and subtracts $5 for each line when you add someone up to a base of $25 per line (i.e. 1 line = $40, 2 = $35 ea, 3 = $30 ea, 4+ = $25 ea). - The multi line is nice in that each line is billed and managed separately, which is nice compared to the plans where someone sharing a family plan has to wrangle payments from a mix of their friends and family every month. It's also annoying for having multiple lines in the same household, if you have 5 lines for the same family you need 5 emails and the payment method managed in five different places. - This company is a direct subsidiary of Verizon so I think they are less likely to have the same problems long run that the others reselling plans have had to this point. - Here is what I did to get up and running: 1. Got a mofi 4500 straight from Mofi 2. Ordered the cheap cell phone from visible that they sell, it is $20 when it's in stock. I would guess that they may not have any for a while with the current panic and supply line issues - their next cheapest phone is $49 or there are some bring your own devices that you can use as well, they have an imei checker on their site. 3. Activated the phone upon receipt. 4. Pulled the sim out and put it in the mofi. 5. I did have to fitz with the Mofi a bit but got it working fine. There is a built in APN you can set named Visible(USA) and I found I needed to band lock to 4 because it was wanting to use a really slow band by default (I'm sure this will vary) I hooked us up in early December doing this and have been running the whole household off of it since. We have occasional buffering issues at high traffic times with certain streaming providers when running multiple streams around the house, this may be due to one thing that they have buried in their plan details about forcing media streams to SD quality but I don't think they do that unless their is network congestion and I would think a VPN could get around it if they did. View Quote Help me understand as I'm untechnical. If one has verison unlimited already with a regular verison phone, would I have the bandwith as going through all your steps? What does Mofi get you [or would get me]? Thanks |
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Quoted: I live in the very corner of my county. I’m less than 2 miles from 3 other counties. Unluckily for me I’m in the wrong one for fiber optic internet access. One county away they have an electric co-op that ran fiber to every customer. Those lucky bumpkins have gigabit speeds way out in the boonies. I’m stuck with a big asshole electric company, and there is no way they are doing it. View Quote I can empathize. I live a mile from one of the largest underground natural gas pipelines, and I have to buy expensive propane. Sigh. But yeah, the wealthiest and more populous county in the state and these are my infrastructure choices. Meanwhile, at a farm I just sold in Iowa near NOTHING, Gigabit fiber coop. Prolly shoulda kept the farm and sold the forest homestead. |
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Quoted: Help me understand as I'm untechnical. If one has verison unlimited already with a regular verison phone, would I have the bandwith as going through all your steps? What does Mofi get you [or would get me]? Thanks View Quote Unlikely that you could make much use of it with your existing sim. Verizon heavily throttles hotspot data, so if they detected the mofi as a hotspot it would be very slow. Even if they didn't, verizon unlimited is not unlimited... at all. They slow you down to unusable levels after a while. You might give his Visible setup a try, and I'm glad it is working for him... but as with many of the setups here, don't be surprised when it comes to an end abruptly. |
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One more option to consider: https://nomadinternet.com/plans/
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Does anyone have any experience with Viasat?
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Quoted: Does anyone have any experience with Viasat? View Quote If you have absolutely no possible other options meaning no cell 4g cell service from any provider, no DSL, then it might be something to consider. Satellite based internet access is slow, laggy, inconsistent, and expensive. |
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Quoted: If you have absolutely no possible other options meaning no cell 4g cell service from any provider, no DSL, then it might be something to consider. Satellite based internet access is slow, laggy, inconsistent, and expensive. View Quote I understand the drawbacks of satellite internet, but it seems like OTR, unlimiteddata, Unlimitedville, etc. are abusing the TOS with their carriers. It also seems like the carriers catch on when they get really popular due to threads such as this. I have never ever heard anyone say anything positive about HughesNet (except maybe their sales people). I guess my question is really how does Viasat compare to HughesNet in regards to price and customer service? Is their performance any better? |
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No. If it is an option you are much better off to use a cell plan reseller than a satellite provider.
The big telecoms don't care until they do, if that makes sense. Even if the plans were completely on the up and up, they'd fuck them if they felt like it. Don't overestimate the reach of threads like this. Many thousands of people are using plan resellers. The telecoms know this. They just don't really care for the most part. If they did they could easily quash the businesses doing it. As they roll out their own home wireless plans I think we might see them crack down on resellers, though. |
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Quoted: I understand the drawbacks of satellite internet, but it seems like OTR, unlimiteddata, Unlimitedville, etc. are abusing the TOS with their carriers. It also seems like the carriers catch on when they get really popular due to threads such as this. I have never ever heard anyone say anything positive about HughesNet (except maybe their sales people). I guess my question is really how does Viasat compare to HughesNet in regards to price and customer service? Is their performance any better? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: If you have absolutely no possible other options meaning no cell 4g cell service from any provider, no DSL, then it might be something to consider. Satellite based internet access is slow, laggy, inconsistent, and expensive. I understand the drawbacks of satellite internet, but it seems like OTR, unlimiteddata, Unlimitedville, etc. are abusing the TOS with their carriers. It also seems like the carriers catch on when they get really popular due to threads such as this. I have never ever heard anyone say anything positive about HughesNet (except maybe their sales people). I guess my question is really how does Viasat compare to HughesNet in regards to price and customer service? Is their performance any better? I agree that many if not all plan resellers have been abusing their TOS. That’s why OTR got booted from ATT. However, after a ton of ass pain getting up and running on T-Mobile, I have a lot more insight into their business model and company. They are actually an authorized T-mobile MVNO, they are selling plans through their network with their knowledge and support. That’s one reason the price is going up. I can’t speak to all the other resellers, some might be legit and some are not. Now that my T-Mobile service is working (again), I have once again noticed that video streaming is slow as crap. More accurately it is limited to 480p streaming speed. After doing some reading in the FB OTR mobile users page (not OTRs page) I read that this is the default “binge mode” and can be disabled by OTR, which I have requested. ETA: success! Went from a throttled 2.6mbps to 14mbps streaming speed. Test your own speed here:https://fast.com/ |
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Quoted: Quoted: They are actually an authorized T-mobile MVNO, they are selling plans through their network with their knowledge and support. That's awesome to hear. The company owner also said that ATT corporate told him directly that there are no authorized resellers of ATT unlimited service, period. All the other companies finding loopholes are in danger of the same treatment that OTR got. |
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@Chairborne
Thanks! I am currently on OTR's AT&T plan. I am expecting it to be turned off any day now. I am waiting for a T-Mobile sim card from OTR, but plan to keep using AT&T until it quits. My current plan expire May 4th IIRC. |
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Quoted: One more option to consider: https://nomadinternet.com/plans/ View Quote Have you used them? I sent them an email this morning asking if I can use my nighthawk on their service. No response. |
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Has anyone been able to get an unlock code from OTR? I'm still waiting after 2 weeks. They keep giving me a line about a third party getting the code and that I should pay $10 to use some other service to get the code.
Better yet, anyone here have any idea how to get an unlock code for a nighthawk so I can use the Tmobile SIM that OTR sent me? |
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Quoted: Have you used them? I sent them an email this morning asking if I can use my nighthawk on their service. No response. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: One more option to consider: https://nomadinternet.com/plans/ Have you used them? I sent them an email this morning asking if I can use my nighthawk on their service. No response. No, a disgruntled ex-otr user pointed me their way. There is a Facebook page for their users if you want to ask questions from users. |
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Quoted: Has anyone been able to get an unlock code from OTR? I'm still waiting after 2 weeks. They keep giving me a line about a third party getting the code and that I should pay $10 to use some other service to get the code. Better yet, anyone here have any idea how to get an unlock code for a nighthawk so I can use the Tmobile SIM that OTR sent me? View Quote The OTR folks paid a 3rd party company to do unlocks, sent them 3,000 requests, and got 50 replies. They paid for the service and got boned. I’d use the service they recommend, then you’re free to use your nighthawk with any provider. I know of no way to get a free unlock code. |
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Someone on the facebook group is recomending Bix Wireless. Does anyone know anything about them?
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Quoted: The OTR folks paid a 3rd party company to do unlocks, sent them 3,000 requests, and got 50 replies. They paid for the service and got boned. I’d use the service they recommend, then you’re free to use your nighthawk with any provider. I know of no way to get a free unlock code. View Quote Thank you. I have been jerked along by their online chat for over 3 hours now trying to get them to help. |
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Anybody that's using the NightHawk I just got this info from support. I got my new SIM but it wasn't working for me. Will try and see soon.
1.Launch a web browser from a device that is connected to the modem. The device can be a computer that is directly connected to the modem or a client from a router that is ONLY connected to the modem. Regardless if there is a connection or not. If you use a cellphone you must turn the cellular data off and connect to the modem as the wifi source. Connection or not. 2.In the address field of your web browser, enter http://attwifimanger 3.In the Sign In field, enter the modem password and click the Sign In button. The default password is password (this is printed on the back of the device) 4.Click Settings 5.Click Mobile .Click APN 67.Click Add then change it to APN name: otrmobile APN: fast.t-mobile.com (it is case sensitive) 8.Click Save Quoted: Has anyone been able to get an unlock code from OTR? I'm still waiting after 2 weeks. They keep giving me a line about a third party getting the code and that I should pay $10 to use some other service to get the code. Better yet, anyone here have any idea how to get an unlock code for a nighthawk so I can use the Tmobile SIM that OTR sent me? View Quote |
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Quoted: Anybody that's using the NightHawk I just got this info from support. I got my new SIM but it wasn't working for me. Will try and see soon. 1.Launch a web browser from a device that is connected to the modem. The device can be a computer that is directly connected to the modem or a client from a router that is ONLY connected to the modem. Regardless if there is a connection or not. If you use a cellphone you must turn the cellular data off and connect to the modem as the wifi source. Connection or not. 2.In the address field of your web browser, enter http://attwifimanger 3.In the Sign In field, enter the modem password and click the Sign In button. The default password is password (this is printed on the back of the device) 4.Click Settings 5.Click Mobile .Click APN 67.Click Add then change it to APN name: otrmobile APN: fast.t-mobile.com (it is case sensitive) 8.Click Save View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Anybody that's using the NightHawk I just got this info from support. I got my new SIM but it wasn't working for me. Will try and see soon. 1.Launch a web browser from a device that is connected to the modem. The device can be a computer that is directly connected to the modem or a client from a router that is ONLY connected to the modem. Regardless if there is a connection or not. If you use a cellphone you must turn the cellular data off and connect to the modem as the wifi source. Connection or not. 2.In the address field of your web browser, enter http://attwifimanger 3.In the Sign In field, enter the modem password and click the Sign In button. The default password is password (this is printed on the back of the device) 4.Click Settings 5.Click Mobile .Click APN 67.Click Add then change it to APN name: otrmobile APN: fast.t-mobile.com (it is case sensitive) 8.Click Save Quoted: Has anyone been able to get an unlock code from OTR? I'm still waiting after 2 weeks. They keep giving me a line about a third party getting the code and that I should pay $10 to use some other service to get the code. Better yet, anyone here have any idea how to get an unlock code for a nighthawk so I can use the Tmobile SIM that OTR sent me? Alternatively give b2b.t-mobile.com a try if fast.t-mobile.com doesn't work for whatever reason. |
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So under:
APN NAME: otrmobile APN ? and under APN: fast.t-mobile.com ? do i have this right ?? |
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Quoted: So under: APN NAME: otrmobile APN ? and under APN: fast.t-mobile.com ? do i have this right ?? View Quote The APN name is immaterial, it’s what you want it to be, the APN is important though. Yes, fast.t-mobile.com is correct. I’ve heard conflicting reports on whether nighthawk modems need a static IP, if they do OTR will have to assign it and you’ll have to use b2b.static. |
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Quoted: I am up and running on nolimitdata. I got the 500Gb AT&T plan. Nice to get back to better speeds. I'm at 15 up and 44 down now. Yes it is more pricey that OTR but the fact that they actually called me direct to work my setup tells me the customer service will be night and day from OTR. I think once the fog clears on all the changeover with OTR they'll jack their prices up anyway. I was paying $60 a month for 5Gb of data through HughesNet, so I'll take $40 extra to get 500Gb with these speeds. View Quote Ya Trek...you are rocking now. |
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Quoted: Does anyone have any experience with Viasat? View Quote I've had Viasat for three years. It's typical for satellite. Slow up, slow down, limited data and goes out in bad weather. I do get 150G a month and can stream with little buffering but am looking in to radio broadband that is coming in to the area. I know the plan that I got isn't available in most areas. I guess I got in at the right time. I believe the data plans are more in sync with Hughes net now. |
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My ATT Sim just died tonight. OTR said they'd activate my T-Mobile sim Friday before last and it would take 24 hours. Last Monday I tried and it didn't work. Tonight I tried again and it's working but at half the speed ATT was but I'm 12 miles from the Tower. I may have to explore Visible since there are two Verizon towers within 5 miles.
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Quoted: My ATT Sim just died tonight. OTR said they'd activate my T-Mobile sim Friday before last and it would take 24 hours. Last Monday I tried and it didn't work. Tonight I tried again and it's working but at half the speed ATT was but I'm 12 miles from the Tower. I may have to explore Visible since there are two Verizon towers within 5 miles. View Quote You can make it work with one or more external antennae. |
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I've been using a Sprint unlimited plan for several years now and have never been throttled. $50/month and 20 times as fast as the DSL that Century Link has available in this area. I'm a heavy user including streaming, my son is an IT major in college and studying from home since Corona and my wife works for IBM and works from home. We use many gigabytes per month. I never had a problem.
I brought my own modem and went directly to Sprint but I know that right now Family Motor Coach association has a similar deal with Sprint. Family Motorcoach Association I've had higher speeds but this is typical, but uploading is 6mbps usually. |
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Quoted: Anybody that's using the NightHawk I just got this info from support. I got my new SIM but it wasn't working for me. Will try and see soon. 1.Launch a web browser from a device that is connected to the modem. The device can be a computer that is directly connected to the modem or a client from a router that is ONLY connected to the modem. Regardless if there is a connection or not. If you use a cellphone you must turn the cellular data off and connect to the modem as the wifi source. Connection or not. 2.In the address field of your web browser, enter http://attwifimanger 3.In the Sign In field, enter the modem password and click the Sign In button. The default password is password (this is printed on the back of the device) 4.Click Settings 5.Click Mobile .Click APN 67.Click Add then change it to APN name: otrmobile APN: fast.t-mobile.com (it is case sensitive) 8.Click Save View Quote One other thing I discovered for those on Nighthawks. If you connect with your phone and use the Netgear app it won't show you all the APN information. When I finally got frustrated and signed in with a laptop (192.168.1.1) I saw that there were 2 existing APN's. One will be your T-Mobile (or AT&T, whichever SIM you have) and the other is some weird name. Neither are selected. Once you select the right one, your modem with reset to that APN and then you can delete that odd one. Again, I didn't see any of that on the phone app. Once I did that, my modem came right up. |
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Quoted: I've got one Yagi on a tower above my roof line pointed that way. Signal varies from 1-3 bars on the MOFI View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: You can make it work with one or more external antennae. Then you’re doing the best you are going to, most likely. Sounds like you have no choice but to find another provider. I got lucky and mine is faster than ATT was. |
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There is a guy on the OTR customer FB page that claims he is the OTR CEO. He's giving out the same line of crap that the customer service people are saying. He offered to call me directly, but he called from a private number so my phone blocks it automatically and he wouldn't leave a voice mail to call back. He sent me a PM and said I could mail them my Nighthawk and they would mail me an unlocked Nighthawk. That leaves me with no home internet, and 2 people working from home, and a student taking classes online. I can't do that. It seems that there is no other way to get their new Tmobile plan working since they don't want to fix the unlock issue.
I predict that OTR will not exist at the end of the summer. The more I work with them this week the more Mickey Mouse their operation appears. |
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I signed up for the Nolimit HD Pink plan tonight. We get a good TMobile signal here, so I’m pretty confident it will work. My AT&T data connection through them got disconnected today and it made me decide to go ahead and make the jump.
On a related note, did anyone else have problems with AT&T broadband being disconnected? I’ve never had that problem with TMobile or Verizon, but it happened regularly with OTR and now it’s happened with Nolimit. Nolimit had me back up and running in about 15 mins, but I’m just curious as to what the cause is. Every time it’s happened, they just send a signal to reset it. |
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Quoted: I've been using a Sprint unlimited plan for several years now and have never been throttled. $50/month and 20 times as fast as the DSL that Century Link has available in this area. I'm a heavy user including streaming, my son is an IT major in college and studying from home since Corona and my wife works for IBM and works from home. We use many gigabytes per month. I never had a problem. I brought my own modem and went directly to Sprint but I know that right now Family Motor Coach association has a similar deal with Sprint. Family Motorcoach Association https://i.imgur.com/jay3fj1.jpg I've had higher speeds but this is typical, but uploading is 6mbps usually. View Quote download speed is impressive for Sprint...upload speed...average to slow. |
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Quoted: Now that my T-Mobile service is working (again), I have once again noticed that video streaming is slow as crap. More accurately it is limited to 480p streaming speed. After doing some reading in the FB OTR mobile users page (not OTRs page) I read that this is the default “binge mode” and can be disabled by OTR, which I have requested. ETA: success! Went from a throttled 2.6mbps to 14mbps streaming speed. Test your own speed here:https://fast.com/ View Quote Thanks for the tip on this. Contacted OTR to have them remove the "binge mode" and my speeds increased as well. |
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Quoted: I signed up for the Nolimit HD Pink plan tonight. We get a good TMobile signal here, so I’m pretty confident it will work. My AT&T data connection through them got disconnected today and it made me decide to go ahead and make the jump. On a related note, did anyone else have problems with AT&T broadband being disconnected? I’ve never had that problem with TMobile or Verizon, but it happened regularly with OTR and now it’s happened with Nolimit. Nolimit had me back up and running in about 15 mins, but I’m just curious as to what the cause is. Every time it’s happened, they just send a signal to reset it. View Quote I think it is att cracking down on home users, mine has needed to be reset regularly recently. TMobile is a little slow sometimes but so far no major problems. |
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My AT&T based OTR is still going strong.
I'm really hesitant to post this so i don't jinx myself. |
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My parents OTR account renewed yesterday (for $60) and is still going strong with AT&T. I told them it could quit at anytime. I will be going to a different AT&T reseller if I can find one when it dies. Tmobile has no service where I need it even though they are supposed to be in the coverage area.
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@SageEBR
Just tried Visible after activating in the phone they sent. It was a no go. My MoFi doesn't have a APN for Visible(USA) did yours or did you just type it in? I've seen others reference it as "vsblinternet". I've got two Verizon towers within 3 miles so tomorrow I'll climb the tower re-aim the Yagi and try again. |
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Quoted: @SageEBR Just tried Visible after activating in the phone they sent. It was a no go. My MoFi doesn't have a APN for Visible(USA) did yours or did you just type it in? I've seen others reference it as "vsblinternet". I've got two Verizon towers within 3 miles so tomorrow I'll climb the tower re-aim the Yagi and try again. View Quote You can add your own APN if one doesn’t load from the SIM card. |
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Quoted: Thanks, I just updated the Firmware and now have Visible(USA) in the drop down. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: You can add your own APN if one doesn't load from the SIM card. @TNZ71 Good to hear, that's what I figured it must be and was just looking up what my firmware version was when I read this. Remember to play around with the band scanner and band locking features, I have four that mine found and one stood head and shoulders above the others. Also remember to give the mofi a few minutes to properly reboot/reconfigure after you change the settings before you decide they don't work. I think I had mine set fine at one point but didn't give it enough time and moved on too soon and it cost me some time. |
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Well OTR can suck it. After a month of stringing me along with their shit tmobile blast plan with 1-2Mbps upload when I can even get it, they basically said there is nothing more they can do to help. Wanted me to buy a signal booster even though they can't say whether it will help or not. I think it is bullshit because my signal strength on AT&T is almost the same as Tmobile and I had 30-40Mbps with AT&T. Hell Tmobile and AT&T use the same damn towers less than 3 miles from my house.
I guess have to find another provider that uses AT&T. What a pain in the ass. |
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Quoted: Well OTR can suck it. After a month of stringing me along with their shit tmobile blast plan with 1-2Mbps upload when I can even get it, they basically said there is nothing more they can do to help. Wanted me to buy a signal booster even though they can't say whether it will help or not. I think it is bullshit because my signal strength on AT&T is almost the same as Tmobile and I had 30-40Mbps with AT&T. Hell Tmobile and AT&T use the same damn towers less than 3 miles from my house. I guess have to find another provider that uses AT&T. What a pain in the ass. View Quote That’s too bad. My speed with T-Mobile is as good as it was with ATT, actually better. Anybody selling you ATT is selling an iPad plan, and violating their ToS. It may last a while but they will get shut down. ATT themselves say there are zero authorized resellers of their unlimited data plans. |
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Quoted: That’s too bad. My speed with T-Mobile is as good as it was with ATT, actually better. Anybody selling you ATT is selling an iPad plan, and violating their ToS. It may last a while but they will get shut down. ATT themselves say there are zero authorized resellers of their unlimited data plans. View Quote I don't have any other options. I had verizon before and while their speed was up there with AT&T I was getting throttled bad and getting dropped from the tower here constantly. I still use them for my phone but reliable data is out. At least with AT&T I had decent signal. Guess I'll just have to keep stringing along with providers until something else comes to my area. |
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Quoted: I don't have any other options. I had verizon before and while their speed was up there with AT&T I was getting throttled bad and getting dropped from the tower here constantly. I still use them for my phone but reliable data is out. At least with AT&T I had decent signal. Guess I'll just have to keep stringing along with providers until something else comes to my area. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: That’s too bad. My speed with T-Mobile is as good as it was with ATT, actually better. Anybody selling you ATT is selling an iPad plan, and violating their ToS. It may last a while but they will get shut down. ATT themselves say there are zero authorized resellers of their unlimited data plans. I don't have any other options. I had verizon before and while their speed was up there with AT&T I was getting throttled bad and getting dropped from the tower here constantly. I still use them for my phone but reliable data is out. At least with AT&T I had decent signal. Guess I'll just have to keep stringing along with providers until something else comes to my area. Yeah I use Verizon for my cell phones and they are fast as hell, not enough data though. Most of us are in the same boat, pretty much stuck paying way too much for some bootleg data plan to get us by. You may look at cellmapper to see what towers are in your area, and then put in a request for fixed wireless service for all providers in your area, some may offer it. Alternatively, there are quite a few microwave wireless operators popping up all over, you’ll need a tower possibly, and a fixed antenna, but if it’s available they are usually well priced and truly unlimited. I can’t get it where I am, unfortunately. Satellite and fly by night cellular data providers... |
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