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Posted: 11/25/2018 4:57:11 PM EST
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lol. He's an RT reporter, talking to people in Donetsk that it's not happening...but somehow you think "they" are the ones spreading the disinformation? How does that even work? Narrator's voice: "He wasn't" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Disinformation is about the only thing they are good at. Quoted:
Well, you do have us at an advantage. You were after all born there. And you ridicule people for not grasping the nuances of Moldovan politics of the late 80’s? lol |
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Posted: 11/25/2018 4:57:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He's defending his borders. Unlike some others I know. Soooooooooooo Russian. 
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Posted: 11/25/2018 4:57:39 PM EST
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Lol America will always love killing commies. |
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Posted: 11/25/2018 4:58:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Actually they did exist. 2009 Joint Declaration by Russia and the United States Russia and the United States released a joint statement in 2009 confirming that the security assurances made in the 1994 Budapest Memorandum would still be valid after the START Treaty expired in 2009. |
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Posted: 11/25/2018 4:58:47 PM EST
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Agreed. Something like this, where the chick is Russia running its mouth, and the dude is the US: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwR_NOeSb-c Man it would be so satisfying. I got a legit stiffy with the Wagner thing  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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US: "Okay...." (Attack wrecks everyone.) Then we hear an almost crying guy rant about how bad their shit got pushed in. 
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Posted: 11/25/2018 4:58:52 PM EST
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Has Pelosi and Ocasio-Cortez made a statement yet?
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Posted: 11/25/2018 4:59:30 PM EST
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Seems odd they dont have any subs, the black sea seems like the perfect place for them average height of attack submarines: way more than 20 feet |
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Posted: 11/25/2018 5:03:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: average depth of the Sea of Azov: 20 feet average height of attack submarines: way more than 20 feet |
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Posted: 11/25/2018 5:03:33 PM EST
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So edgy. Did you also just read the news from 1989 as well? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lol America will always love killing commies. 
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Posted: 11/25/2018 5:04:32 PM EST
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Does the Ukraine have anything that can actually sink enemy shipping? or just a few useless gunboats? |
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Posted: 11/25/2018 5:05:08 PM EST
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Does the Ukraine have anything that can actually sink enemy shipping? or just a few useless gunboats? |
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Posted: 11/25/2018 5:07:03 PM EST
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Be a shame if we stood strong by our Saudi allies, and then the price of oil plummeted...
...and then along came some crippling sanctions. |
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Posted: 11/25/2018 5:07:11 PM EST
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Commies gonna commie. In on this shit show.
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Posted: 11/25/2018 5:07:29 PM EST
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Posted: 11/25/2018 5:07:41 PM EST
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He's defending his borders. Unlike some others I know. Don't worry though. There won't be any war. Most Ukrainians could give a f**k about Fatty. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Weird, I thought he was the savior of the West resisting the globalists. It's odd he's escalating a war in the neocons favor. Don't worry though. There won't be any war. Most Ukrainians could give a f**k about Fatty. But I suppose that the West should be thankful for Putin. He habitually hobbles the Russian economy. There's virtually no foreign investment which is desperately needed in Russia due to that fact that if you have any sort of successful enterprise Putin and his buddies suddenly become your not so silent partners. Such short sighted self interested idiocy. And as is well known, you can't have a strong military without a strong economy. |
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Posted: 11/25/2018 5:09:19 PM EST
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 200 Russians Were Killed by US Airstrikes in Syria. Details, Recorded Radio Communications. In case the trollbros haven’t seen it. |
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Posted: 11/25/2018 5:10:33 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: average depth of the Sea of Azov: 20 feet average height of attack submarines: way more than 20 feet |
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Posted: 11/25/2018 5:10:38 PM EST
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"We must invade them to defend ourselves!" Soooooooooooo Russian. |
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Posted: 11/25/2018 5:10:57 PM EST
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Be a shame if we stood strong by our Saudi allies, and then the price of oil plummeted... ...and then along came some crippling sanctions. none of needs monies from oil, much advanced diverse of economy! |
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Posted: 11/25/2018 5:11:25 PM EST
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Be a shame if we stood strong by our Saudi allies, and then the price of oil plummeted... ...and then along came some crippling sanctions. |
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Posted: 11/25/2018 5:11:26 PM EST
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This could end up leading to another SHTF in Russia thread...
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Posted: 11/25/2018 5:11:48 PM EST
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This is relevant to the legal claims made by both parties:
UN Convention on the Law of the Sea Russia and Ukraine are both parties to this treaty. Scroll down to Section 3 for the definition of innocent passage. |
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Posted: 11/25/2018 5:12:43 PM EST
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Posted: 11/25/2018 5:12:48 PM EST
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Seahawks won, drank my brunch, off for a nap. Wake me up if someone actually declares war on the Soviets. Looks like the same old shit from here...
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Posted: 11/25/2018 5:12:54 PM EST
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Be a shame if we stood strong by our Saudi allies, and then the price of oil plummeted... ...and then along came some crippling sanctions. The US actually has numerous options available to it that would devastate the Russian economy. They only have to be exercised. |
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Posted: 11/25/2018 5:14:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bullshit. He's invading Ukraine. Piecemeal. But I suppose that the West should be thankful for Putin. He habitually hobbles the Russian economy. There's virtually no foreign investment which is desperately needed in Russia due to that fact that if you have any sort of successful enterprise Putin and his buddies suddenly become your not so silent partners. Such short sighted self interested idiocy. And as is well known, you can't have a strong military without a strong economy. |
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Posted: 11/25/2018 5:14:15 PM EST
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Or the Iraq war I’m assuming you supported? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"We must invade them to defend ourselves!" Soooooooooooo Russian. |
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Posted: 11/25/2018 5:14:53 PM EST
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Posted: 11/25/2018 5:17:32 PM EST
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Maybe the Ukranians defended their borders against Malaysian Airlines flights and economic opportunities Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 11/25/2018 5:18:15 PM EST
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In order to need to defend your borders you need to have a country that other people actually want to enter. Russia is a shithole that exports it's brightest minds and it's prettiest women wholesale... nobody wants to immigrate there anyway. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Bullshit. He's invading Ukraine. Piecemeal. But I suppose that the West should be thankful for Putin. He habitually hobbles the Russian economy. There's virtually no foreign investment which is desperately needed in Russia due to that fact that if you have any sort of successful enterprise Putin and his buddies suddenly become your not so silent partners. Such short sighted self interested idiocy. And as is well known, you can't have a strong military without a strong economy. |
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Posted: 11/25/2018 5:18:35 PM EST
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Be a shame if we stood strong by our Saudi allies, and then the price of oil plummeted... ...and then along came some crippling sanctions. Unfortunately, too many people give a damn about some Muslim Brotherhood activist getting chopped up by the Saudis to embrace them too strongly right now. |
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Posted: 11/25/2018 5:18:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Agreed, what does that have to do with my point. Be quiet, nobody likes a noisy hat. |
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Posted: 11/25/2018 5:19:13 PM EST
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Posted: 11/25/2018 5:19:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well that's the thing isn't it. Extraction based economies like Russia's are particularly vulnerable to sanctions. In fact, we could drive down their economy without sanctions by merely announcing that we are taking measures to encourage more fracking (tax advantages, opening up federal land) and will also offer encouragement to build cryogenic tankers to deliver LNG to Europe and Ukraine. The US actually has numerous options available to it that would devastate the Russian economy. They only have to be exercised. Russian manufacturing output is down to about $150 billion a year, about equal to Taiwan, but less than Mexico and Indonesia... Or about 50% higher than the state of Ohio, which is our #3 manufacturing state. Russia makes almost nothing anyone else wants to buy, everything is dug or pumped out of the ground. |
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Posted: 11/25/2018 5:19:33 PM EST
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Quote HistoryLol I didn't know we used B52s on them. I knew about the AC130s/F22s/F15s/ Apaches
Jesus.
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Posted: 11/25/2018 5:20:38 PM EST
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Posted: 11/25/2018 5:21:16 PM EST
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For those who may not know FSB = old KGB 2nd Decorate, internal state security. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Perhaps you meant Second Chief Directorate. |
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Posted: 11/25/2018 5:22:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryI doubt the Ukrainian air force has modern air launched anti-ship missiles like Kh-35 available either. They have their own derivative Neptune, but I don't think that's operational yet. Btw, it appears Russia has confirmed holding the 3 Ukrainian ships, they say only 3 injured sailors though:
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Posted: 11/25/2018 5:23:21 PM EST
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Except for the part that isn't. You probably have also forgotten (or more likely have no idea) of when those angelic pro-Westerners beat and murdered pro-Russians in Crimea, Kharkov and elsewhere during their "peaceful" demonstrations of "peace". I guess the Ukrainians are the American right's version of "little" Trayvon Martin. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ukraine's populace is overwhelmingly anti-Russia. They were betrayed by us while they tried to hold the line against Russian invaders, while getting shot down unarmed. I haven't forgotten that but apparently many have, and of course many don't care. . I guess the Ukrainians are the American right's version of "little" Trayvon Martin. |
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Posted: 11/25/2018 5:23:47 PM EST
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In order to need to defend your borders you need to have a country that other people actually want to enter. Russia is a shithole that exports it's brightest minds and it's prettiest women wholesale... nobody wants to immigrate there anyway. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Bullshit. He's invading Ukraine. Piecemeal. But I suppose that the West should be thankful for Putin. He habitually hobbles the Russian economy. There's virtually no foreign investment which is desperately needed in Russia due to that fact that if you have any sort of successful enterprise Putin and his buddies suddenly become your not so silent partners. Such short sighted self interested idiocy. And as is well known, you can't have a strong military without a strong economy. And there is a reason why Americans don’t go on Russian sites to troll. Number one, we just don’t care about what those drunken pigs talk about. Number two, there are FAR more English speaking Russians than Russian speaking Americans. AGAIN, because we don’t care. We train people to speak Russian so that we can intercept their stupid communications, and someday we will be interrogating millions of surrendering Russian soldiers. Russian learn English so that they can leave Russia and participate in the American dominated World Economy. Those who are incapable of succeeding in that endeavor get hired as internet trolls. |
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Posted: 11/25/2018 5:23:59 PM EST
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I think the take-away is that Putler is unoriginal and dishonest. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Hopefully he's not pulling another Nazi Germany. One piece at a time. Accuse your victim of abusing ethnic minorities and then invade to save those poor ethnic 
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Posted: 11/25/2018 5:24:34 PM EST
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Posted: 11/25/2018 5:24:41 PM EST
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Dutch disease is a bitch. Russian manufacturing output is down to about $150 billion a year, about equal to Taiwan, but less than Mexico and Indonesia... Or about 50% higher than the state of Ohio, which is our #3 manufacturing state. Russia makes almost nothing any else wants to buy, everything is dug or pumped out of the ground. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Well that's the thing isn't it. Extraction based economies like Russia's are particularly vulnerable to sanctions. In fact, we could drive down their economy without sanctions by merely announcing that we are taking measures to encourage more fracking (tax advantages, opening up federal land) and will also offer encouragement to build cryogenic tankers to deliver LNG to Europe and Ukraine. The US actually has numerous options available to it that would devastate the Russian economy. They only have to be exercised. Russian manufacturing output is down to about $150 billion a year, about equal to Taiwan, but less than Mexico and Indonesia... Or about 50% higher than the state of Ohio, which is our #3 manufacturing state. Russia makes almost nothing any else wants to buy, everything is dug or pumped out of the ground. |
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Posted: 11/25/2018 5:25:44 PM EST
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Ukrainian reports are that 23 sailors are POW of which 6 WIA, 2 seriously. Original source is stated as General Viktor Muzhenko, Chief of General Staff.
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Posted: 11/25/2018 5:26:39 PM EST
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What a laugh. Putin and his thug kleptocracy have absolutely squashed any economic opportunity that Russia might have. They have this little antiquated extraction economy that is a fraction of it's potential because of him. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: Yep, you've got to give Ukraine credit. Something like that. Putin = short man's complex. Has to have the biggest hat and the biggest truck to make up for his micropenis. |
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Posted: 11/25/2018 5:28:48 PM EST
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Oh sh*t! There goes muh "give 'em hell Ukraine!" scream. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Shoe fit? |
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Posted: 11/25/2018 5:28:59 PM EST
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What's the old saying about "ruling over ashes is better than not ruling at all?" Something like that. Putin = short man's complex. Has to have the biggest hat and the biggest truck to make up for his micropenis. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 11/25/2018 5:31:27 PM EST
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here is the earlier incident of the Russians hitting the Ukrainian Tug  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcTSDaCg5xA
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Posted: 11/25/2018 5:32:03 PM EST
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Lol I didn't know we used B52s on them. I knew about the AC130s/F22s/F15s/ Apaches Jesus. |
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Posted: 11/25/2018 5:34:32 PM EST
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Oh, we only had about 35 people on the ground. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lol I didn't know we used B52s on them. I knew about the AC130s/F22s/F15s/ Apaches Jesus.  I had my shit pushed in BIG TIME! |
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