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Posted: 4/25/2018 7:40:19 PM EDT
https://www.rt.com/news/425120-russia-shows-downed-missiles-syria/
http://abcnews.go.com/International/photos/fragments-us-tomahawk-cruise-missiles-captured-syrian-forces-54716248 tl;dr - pictures of fragments of missiles which were downed by Syrian aerospace defense services. the holes and marks show they were downed by anti-aircraft missiles (anti air missiles function similar to a shotgun when they reach the target) some sea and air launched missiles failed due to technical difficulties not anti-aircraft fire, and were transported to Russia for further study Edit: added pro-hillary news source for the people complaining about RT. |
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Russians NEVER lie or exaggerate, it's simply not in their character...
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They released pictures of the actual parts recovered. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Russians NEVER lie or exaggerate, it's simply not in their character... |
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Yes I'm sure they probably downed a few and some probably malfunctioned and crashed but if you launch 6 at a building and only 3 make it then the job still gets done. We launched over 100 missiles so that was probably done on purpose to overwhelm the Syrian air defenses as you don't need 100 missiles to destroy 6 buildings.
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Yes I'm sure they probably downed a few and some probably malfunctioned and crashed but if you launch 6 at a building and only 3 make it then the job still gets done. We launched over 100 missiles so that was probably done on purpose to overwhelm the Syrian air defenses as you don't need 100 missiles to destroy 6 buildings. View Quote |
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While the Russians are exaggerating, our Cruise missiles are a bit long in the tooth.
We could do much more to reduce the radar cross section, and the fact that they are subsonic makes them easier to shoot down. |
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Don't care. But honestly it's impossible to know whether those were shot down, or fragments from the rubble of the target they destroyed or from the last missile strike etc...
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Yes I'm sure they probably downed a few and some probably malfunctioned and crashed but if you launch 6 at a building and only 3 make it then the job still gets done. We launched over 100 missiles so that was probably done on purpose to overwhelm the Syrian air defenses as you don't need 100 missiles to destroy 6 buildings. View Quote |
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Only putin and Assad are good enough to catch cruise missiles with their own buildings
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Why is this news ? Why is this a thing? View Quote |
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Ah look, Carlos87 is back. I remember him from the original Syria strike thread. Uncanny.
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While the Russians are exaggerating, our Cruise missiles are a bit long in the tooth. We could do much more to reduce the radar cross section, and the fact that they are subsonic makes them easier to shoot down. View Quote Supersonic missiles can be precisely detected by $5,000 of acoustic sensors and a Macbook Pro. You want supersonic missiles to kill ships and SAM sites. You want subsonic missiles for a first-strike on ground targets. |
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Tomahawks have a notable failure rate and are ancient. The Ruskies will exaggerate as much as possible, but I wouldn't be suprised if a few failed and a few were tagged by air defenses.
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While the Russians are exaggerating, our Cruise missiles are a bit long in the tooth. We could do much more to reduce the radar cross section, and the fact that they are subsonic makes them easier to shoot down. View Quote Russia HAS to claim they shot down a bunch of US hardware over the Syrian Test and Training Range. There's big money in foreign sales, and nobody will want the Russian product if last-gen US tech easily defeats it. |
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Lockmart is way ahead of you on that one. Russia HAS to claim they shot down a bunch of US hardware over the Syrian Test and Training Range. There's big money in foreign sales, and nobody will want the Russian product if last-gen US tech easily defeats it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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While the Russians are exaggerating, our Cruise missiles are a bit long in the tooth. We could do much more to reduce the radar cross section, and the fact that they are subsonic makes them easier to shoot down. Russia HAS to claim they shot down a bunch of US hardware over the Syrian Test and Training Range. There's big money in foreign sales, and nobody will want the Russian product if last-gen US tech easily defeats it. |
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F-18 follows Tomahawk Missile |
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LOL - Pigeons at 2:50
I remember during the First Gulf War, the TLAM going in the front of one building, coming out the back and blowing up the building next to it. Excellent mapping. Can you imagine a Tomahawk coming down the hallway? "Yer in the way. I have places to go!!" |
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Serious question
How much of the missile is consumed in the explosion? Could these be parts from exploded missiles? |
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Funny, but they look exactly like the pieces leftover after a TLAM hits its target.
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The current TLAMs aren't that old. The block IV tactical TLAMs have been around for less than 10 years I think.
They did use a few JASSM-ER as well, the first combat use of that system. |
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If Ivan runs his mouth for a disinformation campaign, I can understand. If he wants to brag, it doesn't make sense to let an adversary know what information he's gained.
The simplest explanation is usually the right one. |
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We probably shot a bunch of shit from the 80s, assembled while watching Madonna and Prince on MTV. If 100% didn’t function flawlessly, wouldn’t surprise me.
Is this from the same source that said the Russian attack in february resulted in only 3 blisters, a hangnail, and some bruised feelings, right? |
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When missiles explode they tend to scatter parts around. That appears to be what they've picked up and put on display.
The first photo shows engine components. Given the location and construction of the engine, it's not at all surprising that identifiable engine assemblies would be recovered after a conventional Tomahawk explodes. None of those photos give any indication that they were shot down. Oh, they came down and exploded, but probably only as the mission plan indicated that they should. Expecting truth out of Russians is...optimistic. |
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https://www.rt.com/news/425120-russia-shows-downed-missiles-syria/ http://abcnews.go.com/International/photos/fragments-us-tomahawk-cruise-missiles-captured-syrian-forces-54716248 tl;dr - pictures of fragments of missiles which were downed by Syrian aerospace defense services. the holes and marks show they were downed by anti-aircraft missiles (anti air missiles function similar to a shotgun when they reach the target) some sea and air launched missiles failed due to technical difficulties not anti-aircraft fire, and were transported to Russia for further study Edit: added pro-hillary news source for the people complaining about RT. View Quote Not a single pictures shows a single component from a hawk. Holy shit russians are stupid. |
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Probably just fragments from the blast site. View Quote "But they just faked it" But yet people will believe the chemical attack from just a picture of a dirty child with a respirator on. |
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You know how people knew MH17 was shot down by anti aircraft missile from the wreckage? The shotgun like pattern the missile made on the side of the plane. It is the same with these pieces of wreckage. "But they just faked it" But yet people will believe the chemical attack from just a picture of a dirty child with a respirator on. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Probably just fragments from the blast site. "But they just faked it" But yet people will believe the chemical attack from just a picture of a dirty child with a respirator on. A perfectly targeted and successful use of a TLAM will result in fragments that look like this. |
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The Russians have a clone of the US' Tomahawk missile, and it nicknamed Tomahawski; they really do. no joke.
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