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Quoted: Ukrainian army is staging in schools and hospitals though, making them fair targets. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: My thought as well. Plausible deniability. Stop being a dick and firing cruise missiles into schools/hospitals. Ukrainian army is staging in schools and hospitals though, making them fair targets. Got one! |
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Quoted: Don’t listen to Russia. That’s for sure. It was hit by two missiles with 330lb warheads, their magazine detonated, it was 6ft waves in a storm, and it was 1AM. Plenty died but the Russian mod said the “fully evacuated” the ship. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I wonder how many men? Any guesses?? Twitter says 500-510 in total on board. How many truly got off though is the question Don’t listen to Russia. That’s for sure. It was hit by two missiles with 330lb warheads, their magazine detonated, it was 6ft waves in a storm, and it was 1AM. Plenty died but the Russian mod said the “fully evacuated” the ship. Evacuated the ship and rescued into another ship are two different things. |
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Vlad gonna be pissed. Hw needs to fucking pack it in. His military has had their asses handed to them overall.
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Quoted: … This was one of the primary ships firing all the Kaliber cruise missiles into Ukraine that had been killing lots of soldiers and civilians. … View Quote This particular ship does not carry any land-attack cruise missiles. It’s main weapons are the SS-N-12 anti-ship missile and S-300F anti-air missile. |
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Quoted: To be fair, they did have another ship catch on fire a few weeks ago while docked. Maybe Russian ships catch fire as often as US Navy ships run into things View Quote Well, in fairness the US Navy just did have one of the most powerful ships on Earth burn to a complete wreck at the pier. |
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Quoted: Scrolling down a bit on the twitter posted. Maybe a radio amateur could chime in? Dave (Not my real name) @AlbertSmeee · 41m Replying to @Trumenko This isnt a ship and isn't an SOS. Its radio amateurs in the 80m band calling for contacts. Half way through you clearly hear the CQ CQ DE broadcast. This is standard radio amateurs talking in a recognised band. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted:
Scrolling down a bit on the twitter posted. Maybe a radio amateur could chime in? Dave (Not my real name) @AlbertSmeee · 41m Replying to @Trumenko This isnt a ship and isn't an SOS. Its radio amateurs in the 80m band calling for contacts. Half way through you clearly hear the CQ CQ DE broadcast. This is standard radio amateurs talking in a recognised band. Yes, there are amateurs calling CQ, but there were a couple times early in the recording that raised my eyebrows. Trouble is that the one controlling the receiver had his filter set narrow and was skipping around between a couple different signals with the attention span of a gnat. Didn't sit still long enough to make heads or tails out of any of it. Only got short spurts of each. Also, militaries are not (generally) subject to frequency restrictions of any kind in the HF spectrum. If a particular frequency that will work best in a given situation happens to fall on an amateur band, so be it. Especially "in extremis" like this situation. While it isn't likely the case here, don't necessarily rule it out because it is on a ham freq. |
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Quoted: That is still awesome. It was built to very strict maritime standards. Like what? Well the front wasn't supposed to fall off. There are standards for construction materials as well. Like what? Well cardboard is out. And is paper, wood derivatives. No string obviously. I may not have it all right, but I first saw that clip over 15 years ago and still find it hilarious. It was towed outside of the environment! View Quote Aren't Russian standards only on paper? Using different steel allows them to skim the difference, right? |
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Quoted: This particular ship does not carry any land-attack cruise missiles. It’s main weapons are the SS-N-12 anti-ship missile and S-300F anti-air missile. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: … This was one of the primary ships firing all the Kaliber cruise missiles into Ukraine that had been killing lots of soldiers and civilians. … This particular ship does not carry any land-attack cruise missiles. It’s main weapons are the SS-N-12 anti-ship missile and S-300F anti-air missile. I’m corrected. The Vulkan P1000 is a cruise missile and it can fire them. The sandbox and Vulkan can be sued to atta k land based targets. |
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Yea, fuck those guys. Im about 95% sure that was the ship that shadowed the NIMITZ when I was deployed on her back in 2013 and we got turned around on the way home over Obama’s “red line” in Syria… I missed my son’s birth over that bullshit (would have been back with a couple weeks to spare). That ship was within a couple thousand yards for several weeks and constantly playing maneuvering games to get between us and our escort ships.
I had a very good view of her outline from the hangar bay whenever I made it up that high during that period. Which admittedly wasn’t all that often since my work was below the waterline. -Mike |
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Air defense. They've got a huge battery of naval S-300 SAM missiles. I hated those Slava cruisers in the FA-18 flight simulator game. You couldn't get near them unless you had a bunch of bots launching decoys to soak up all the missiles.
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Darn shame they didn’t launch the entire battery at the fleet ans then more when the rescue ships came to help
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Quoted: Why the hell was it over there then? View Quote The other 2 that Russia has were moved from their normal operating areas into the Med in the weeks leading up to the invasion. They act as a counter to Western carriers and other naval forces, as well as providing anti-air coverage/coordination. |
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Somehow I get the feeling I am going to wake up to a whole new war
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Quoted: [Updated: Russian state media outlet RIA Novosti confirms an explosion aboard the Moskva resulting in "serious damage," but asserts that the cause was a shipboard fire and the detonation of ammunition, not a missile strike.] I'm not sure how an accident that causes the loss of a ship is better than enemy action. And maybe it was a shipboard fire and the detonation of ammunition that caused the damage... a shipboard fire and detonation that was set off by an exploding Ukrainian missile. Whatever... this is still a major loss for the Russians. View Quote Considering they basically lost a aircraft carrier in dry dock to fire in recent years it wouldn’t suprise me. I agree it’s funny as hell for them to basically state “no no the enemy didn’t sink us it was our incompetence and shitty manufacturing standards that did!” |
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We found that Russian battleship been makin' such a fuss
We had to sink the Moskva 'cause the world depends on us We hit the deck a-runnin' and we spun those guns around We found the mighty Moskva and then we cut her down |
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Quoted: That would be a horrible fucking way to die. View Quote |
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Quoted: This war is going to go down in history as the greatest war time blunder in the history of war time blunders. View Quote I don’t think the Russians have ever been great navy wise. Compared to their Russo Japanese war antics even their naval losses in this war make them look like Admial Horatio Nelson is leading them in comparison to 1904-1905. Drachinifel on YouTube has some hilarious videos on the subject if you get bored. But for example it was the last time a capital ship was captured like in the days of sail. |
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Putin is a pussy who has other people fight his wars for him. There will be no retaliation.
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Quoted: I don’t think the Russians have ever been great navy wise. Compared to their Russo Japanese war antics even their naval losses in this war make them look like Admial Horatio Nelson is leading them in comparison to 1904-1905. Drachinifel on YouTube has some hilarious videos on the subject if you get bored. But for example it was the last time a capital ship was captured like in the days of sail. View Quote Awhile ago I read a really detailed book about the Russian Baltic fleet sailing to Tsushima. The admiral in command had a bad habit. When he got mad he would throw his binoculars overboard. They stocked an extra 40 sets of binoculars aboard his ship. They were out of binoculars before they were out of sight of Europe. |
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View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: We know exactly the time. Moskva started issuing SOS calls at 1:05AM More reports in that she has capsized. [tweet]https://twitter.com/jon96179496/status/1514393986781388805?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw[/tweet]
That's some one sending CQ. "CQ DE.." Calling for a contact. |
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Quoted: That's some one sending CQ. "CQ DE.." Calling for a contact. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: We know exactly the time. Moskva started issuing SOS calls at 1:05AM More reports in that she has capsized. [tweet]https://twitter.com/jon96179496/status/1514393986781388805?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw[/tweet]
That's some one sending CQ. "CQ DE.." Calling for a contact. I agree. I listened to it several times and while my CW is kinda rusty, I heard no SOS calls. I did hear the CQ CQ de towards the end but most everything before it was random letters from different transmitters. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Maybe this is the Ukrainian retaliation for Russian baby raping? An escalation regardless… A missile cruiser is parked off of the coast of Ukraine, launching missile after missile at Ukrainian cities. The Ukrainians fire back at the missile cruiser that attacked their cities, and you call THAT an “escalation”? |
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Quoted: Whoa. That may cause an escalation from Moscow (if they have anything left to escalate with). Off the top of my head the last capital warship lost in combat was probably the General Belgrano during the Falkland War. View Quote Belgrano (ex-Pheonix) was a cruiser. Cruisers are not "capital warships": this term is usually reserved for battleships, battlecruisers, and aircraft carriers. |
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Quoted: Well, whether you implied it or not, it comes across as a pre-emotive excuse for the Russians. As though they are the ones reacting to Ukrainian attacks, rather that the Ukrainians reacting to marauding invaders. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Curious as to why so much blowback on my opinion? Well, whether you implied it or not, it comes across as a pre-emotive excuse for the Russians. As though they are the ones reacting to Ukrainian attacks, rather that the Ukrainians reacting to marauding invaders. The ship was a completely legitimate target, and reasonable action for Ukraine. But that said I also was concerned about the reaction from Russia when I saw this. I get his point. I'm not even saying they shouldn't have done it, but it might have consequences. That is all I think you can assume from his post. Then again if they are trying to play it off as an accidental fire and not an attack from missiles maybe they'll shrug it off to avoid the embarrassment of admitting what happened. |
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