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So, admittedly, I'm not sure how legal this is according to CoC 4 - so I'll tread lightly.

How would we (constitutionals, liberty oriented folks, etc.) even function cohesively? Obviously, the internet wouldn't be a safe place to discuss resistance - there is no OPSEC or PERSEC.

I hear on here that "Cops would never support confiscation!" I don't believe it. They have families, they need money, they need their jobs. If they don't support confiscation, they will quickly be replaced with those who will.

I hear on here that "The military would never support confiscation!" - read the previous line again.

In light of the other thread asking why so many are adamant about a revolution, I'll pose the following question - how do you resist effectively without being killed immediately? When/where/how does it end?

Resisting confiscation (successfully) would be against every precedent that has ever been set. China, Russia, England, Australia, Japan - they all surrendered their guns (many willingly). Many  sold their friends and family out for scraps of food, or promotions from within the party.

Today while sitting at home - I realized that there is a strong, non-zero chance that things may take a turn for the worst. If we go full SHTF - what do we do?

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Well, now that that's out of the way, I guess I'll edit the title and we'll start from there, in case there are any UNAFFILIATED PRESIDENTIAL CONTENDERS WHO IN NO WAY MEAN TO INFRINGE ON OTHERS PREFERRED CANDIDATE

Let the discussion continue, thanks Zhukov.

EDIT: Apparently this has already been done!
 

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Then federal antigun legislation if the Dems get both houses. Little or no state antigun legislation for the foreseeable future.

The only answer to enforcement of laws predicated on a neutered 2dAm is the 2dAm as written, and the underlying right it protects. I pray it never comes to that.

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Well, now that that's out of the way, I guess I'll edit the title and we'll start from there, in case there are any UNAFFILIATED PRESIDENTIAL CONTENDERS WHO IN NO WAY MEAN TO INFRINGE ON OTHERS PREFERRED CANDIDATE

Let the discussion continue, thanks Zhukov.

EDIT: Apparently this has already been done!
 

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I think there are plenty of examples worldwide where motivated citizens have made there point of view known to politians

You don't fight the army, but there are more elected officials than soldiers.

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Eventually people get shot in the face, duh.



Did you think they just wrote letters and threw sand at each other in the American Revolution?

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I hear on here that "Cops would never support confiscation!"

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  It's not about those who own arms,it's about the children and grandchildren of gun owners not growing up with them as acceptable and not seeing the ownership of them as a fundamental right.

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There will be a giant Constitutional crisis if they reverse Heller anytime in the next 25 years.  In 25+ there would be much less fervor over the reversal.  

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If they make me a criminal, then I will attempt to be the very best criminal I can.

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Place holder for some math......

Ok, ready?........



First, a little  anecdotal experience and stories.

In Iraq, my battalion was attached to a Combat brigade with armor and artillery assests. For an entire month our forces were kept at bay and seriously influenced our patrols and missions because of one gunman. A half assed trained "sniper".

One man

Vs the greates military on earth.


A couple years ago over 6,000 law enforcement officers and military descended onto the Boston area and were "kept on their toes/kept at bay" because of two twats with a "crock pot" and a pistol.

Two turds vs over 6,000 seasoned LEOs and military with gear far beyond your average cargo pockets.



Ok, ready?.....


There are over 85,000,000 gun owners.  If tomorrow FBHO signed an executive order ordering confiscation or if Congress somehow acted to pass a law granting the power of confiscation to the federal government heres what would happen:

90% would turn them in immediately. No questions asked.  

So now there's only 8,500,000 million gun owners. Wow, that is an epic shit ton. But don't worry. The FBI and ATF will conduct a joint raid with local LEOs on an area in some conservative state with a vocal activist. There will be a shoot out. Protester will die as well as a LEO or two. That won't bode well as support will dwindle. Wives and families of the "holdouts" will  give you ultimatums and put additional pressure on them to turn in their guns.  Of those holdouts, 90% will turn them in after seeing the bloody carnage on CNN and MSM and not want to put their family in jeopardy...or risk 30 years in a FPMITAP

So now there's only 850,000 gun owners left. Wow, that is still a shit ton. And most likely the ones who own more than one gun. And probably have few extra mags on hand.

Guess what? Of those left, 99% of them are either in piss poor shape to fight from old age or injury or just too damn stupid to hide them effectively (probably ran there mouth to friends/family or on social media. Slowly me the raids will filter them and their weapons out. The stories that surface will help to soften the will to fight for many.


So now what? What are we left with? 1% of 10% of 10% of the orginal. That's........8,500.

8,500 men...and don't kid yourself, there's at best a few females in that number....men who are squared jawed, steely eyed killers. Men who not just own guns, but NVGs, gear, food, and are smart enough to not have it around. Men smart enough to blend. Men smart enough to know how to hit and run. Men who are not living in basements and typing away about masturbatory revolution fantasies on the Internet.

Harsh measures will be taken against these men....so harsh that the tide of public opinion sways. You see, to get to these men you'll have to drone strike an entire neighborhood or be willing to use force so excessive that there is no way you can keep the ignorant public on your side.

Tyranny can never succeed if you take the power from the people overnight.



Which is why, instead of a gun ban....they will whittle away at gun ownership through regulation until the number of gun owners is so low that banning them overnight won't be more than taking them away from a few thousand people.


We're several years from that. Starvation is more effective than gun confiscation in the short term.

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Texas would probably say F off and die to .fed...



And I can imagine that would be the place to be.

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Texas would probably say F off and die to .fed...

And I can imagine that would be the place to be.

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"SCOTUS revokes individual right of 2A. Then what?"

"Then, by God, we take it back."



There is a saying: When you get angry enough, grab your rifle and run outside. If you are the only one there, it is not time yet.



Many of us will run outside only to find that we are alone and will continue to be alone so long as there are flickering images on the tv and beer in the fridge. The average American is content to let the hard won freedoms of our forefathers slip out of our grasp. IF the average American ever wakes up at all, it will be far too late for him to do anything about it.