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Posted: 1/22/2024 8:22:26 AM EST
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 The Hudson H9 is Back? The Daniel Defense H9 Pistol! |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 8:29:06 AM EST
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Daniel H9. Did they buy Hudson? My curiosity is peaked. Hope the trigger doesn’t suck Edit that is the Hudson H9. The one I tried had an awful trigger before they went out of business. If DD fixed the parts breakage and trigger I’d give it a shot.
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Posted: 1/22/2024 8:46:50 AM EST
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Posted: 1/22/2024 8:50:26 AM EST
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Posted: 1/22/2024 8:51:20 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Allow me to dissent from popular AR15.com opinion again. Proudly. I will never, ever, ever - in a bajillion gazillion years, ever use that thing. No amount of podcasting homos dressed in their operator-chic with their cool bro tattoos and beards will ever convince me a pistol gussied up like a carbine is viable. Jesus Christ himself could rapture everybody and come down and tell me to accept the Flux into my heart and I can go too and I'll still refuse. NUH UH! That bullshit is gayer than kissing your bearded cousin in broad daylight at your war hero grandpa's funeral. I fucking refuse to accept. Not a subgun hater either. Carried one many a time. https://i.imgur.com/WGykwe0l.jpg GD hearing from an SME that PCC's, cheek pistols and cosplay outfits (milsim?) are gayer than their hate for Garand Thumb and James Yeager: 
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Posted: 1/22/2024 8:51:55 AM EST
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Quote HistoryActually, that's pretty cool. I'm impressed they've got so much in the pipeline right now. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 8:52:24 AM EST
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Springfield… can you make more 1911-45 acp guns with No Optic Cuts!???? Cmon. Please!???
Seriously! A whole new line of TRPs. Only in 45? No 9mm? No optic cut? GTFO |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 8:56:22 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: PSA 2024 poll is up LINK https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77352/IMG_7891-3103108.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77352/IMG_7890-3103109.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77352/IMG_7889-3103110.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77352/IMG_7886-3103114.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77352/IMG_7888-3103112.jpg Edit to add pics I voted for the bullpup, enhances Sabre (love my Sabre), and the x5.7 thing toward the bottom. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 8:57:34 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: PSA 2024 poll is up LINK https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77352/IMG_7891-3103108.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77352/IMG_7890-3103109.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77352/IMG_7889-3103110.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77352/IMG_7886-3103114.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77352/IMG_7888-3103112.jpg Edit to add pics Im usually happy to see what PSA has cooking but all of those are pretty underwhelming. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 8:58:29 AM EST
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Im usually happy to see what PSA has cooking but all of those are pretty underwhelming. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 8:58:44 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Springfield can you make more 1911-45 acp guns with No Optic Cuts!???? Cmon. Please!??? Seriously! A whole new line of TRPs. Only in 45? No 9mm? No optic cut? GTFO |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 8:58:50 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Im usually happy to see what PSA has cooking but all of those are pretty underwhelming. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: PSA 2024 poll is up LINK https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77352/IMG_7891-3103108.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77352/IMG_7890-3103109.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77352/IMG_7889-3103110.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77352/IMG_7886-3103114.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77352/IMG_7888-3103112.jpg Edit to add pics Im usually happy to see what PSA has cooking but all of those are pretty underwhelming. I agree |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 9:01:30 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Honest question, what did you think they'd be working on? Those are exactly what I figured they were working on, outside of the thumper thing. I apparently was expecting more. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 9:05:56 AM EST
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More retro stuff. The Vuk is mildly interesting, but a bunch of new flavors of Gen3 glocks isn't. Cheap shotguns aren't exciting. After a year of waiting for them to release the bolt gun they teased in interviews a year ago, they release a very average looking one. I apparently was expecting more. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 9:08:04 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Im usually happy to see what PSA has cooking but all of those are pretty underwhelming. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: PSA 2024 poll is up LINK https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77352/IMG_7891-3103108.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77352/IMG_7890-3103109.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77352/IMG_7889-3103110.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77352/IMG_7886-3103114.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77352/IMG_7888-3103112.jpg Edit to add pics Im usually happy to see what PSA has cooking but all of those are pretty underwhelming. How? That's an absolute truckload of new products for one company in one year. I'm not sure even Ruger has ever dropped this much at once. The momentum of this company right now is incredible. Expanding the Dagger line by 3 calibers that all require significant engineering changes, introducing their first shotgun and bolt action rifle, introducing an MP7 clone in 5.7, and making PCC and Bullpup variants of the JAKL all at the same time is pretty wild. Not long ago, PSA was just some website where people went for cheap ARs. For them to go from that to this so quickly is astonishing and impressive. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 9:10:04 AM EST
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Lots of cool stuff being announced. S&W 1854, DD H9, and the PSA Vuk looks pretty cool.
I'm eagerly awaiting to see if CZ announces the Bren 2 BR, but I have my doubts 
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Posted: 1/22/2024 9:13:04 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think you'll see the retro stuff introduced under the H&R flag. Mike made it sound like they had stuff to show off. Understand on the rest, and why i didn't vote for them. A cheap shotgun in a world ruled by Turknelli's and cheap bolt gun in a world w/ Ruger American's...it is going to be hard to create their own niche. Derivatives of their pistols and something interesting w/ the 5.7 along w/ the bullpup Jakl they've already talked about...exactly what I was expecting. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: More retro stuff. The Vuk is mildly interesting, but a bunch of new flavors of Gen3 glocks isn't. Cheap shotguns aren't exciting. After a year of waiting for them to release the bolt gun they teased in interviews a year ago, they release a very average looking one. I apparently was expecting more. I think you'll see the retro stuff introduced under the H&R flag. Mike made it sound like they had stuff to show off. Understand on the rest, and why i didn't vote for them. A cheap shotgun in a world ruled by Turknelli's and cheap bolt gun in a world w/ Ruger American's...it is going to be hard to create their own niche. Derivatives of their pistols and something interesting w/ the 5.7 along w/ the bullpup Jakl they've already talked about...exactly what I was expecting. I think the shotgun and the bolt action are both potentially great moves. The Turkish shotguns are TRASH. They're poorly built and they don't work. I'd expect this PSA gun to undercut both Remington and Mossberg by a healthy margin while still being good, and I also expect them to have a bunch of fun configurations that neither of those companies do. And the Emerge bolt action looks a whole lot like a R700 in that pic. If it is, they're not going after the Ruger American and Savage Axis. They're going after the likes of Bergara. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 9:14:49 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think the shotgun and the bolt action are both potentially great moves. The Turkish shotguns are TRASH. They're poorly built and they don't work. I'd expect this PSA gun to undercut both Remington and Mossberg by a healthy margin while still being good, and I also expect them to have a bunch of fun configurations that neither of those companies do. And the Emerge bolt action looks a whole lot like a R700 in that pic. If it is, they're not going after the Ruger American and Savage Axis. They're going after the likes of Bergara. Fun configurations, like what exactly? |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 9:16:25 AM EST
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So far pretty "meh".
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Posted: 1/22/2024 9:16:54 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think the shotgun and the bolt action are both potentially great moves. The Turkish shotguns are TRASH. They're poorly built and they don't work. I'd expect this PSA gun to undercut both Remington and Mossberg by a healthy margin while still being good, and I also expect them to have a bunch of fun configurations that neither of those companies do. And the Emerge bolt action looks a whole lot like a R700 in that pic. If it is, they're not going after the Ruger American and Savage Axis. They're going after the likes of Bergara. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 9:17:56 AM EST
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Seems this flew a bit under the radar with the H9, but DD also announced a PCC:
https://danieldefense.com/pcc Looks like it takes CZ Scorpion mags and has a fully ambi lower and CHF barrel. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 9:20:45 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So far pretty "meh". I dont know, man. Pistol mounted thermal is pretty amazing...and more affordable thermal in general. I think the PSA Shotgun is a smart move as well. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 9:21:28 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Im usually happy to see what PSA has cooking but all of those are pretty underwhelming. it looks like a lot of cheap parts slapped together in different weird configurations. par for the course |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 9:21:51 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So far pretty "meh". Give it time. It just started and last year it took a day or two to start seeing the cooler stuff come out like the IWI Carmel. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 9:22:15 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fun configurations, like what exactly? Shockwave that can take short shells would be cool. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 9:27:28 AM EST
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 Introducing the Ohio Ordnance REAPR .338NM Belt-Fed Machine Gun |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 9:31:04 AM EST
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Quoted:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xl1YAHrSsARaider P365 start at 13:30 auto deploying side folder brace or stock. Quoted: Thanks for posting that! I will be buying the shit out of this. Had a glock flux for a while. It's as small as a PCC could really be and still be useful. The 365 will be smaller and even easier to carry. It's a way to have a long gun in your glove box. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 9:31:46 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hudson definitely went under. Possible DD just bought the patents. Interesting to see if they could actually get them to run reliably on a mass production scale.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GEcuTKBWoAATE-J?format=jpg&name=medium Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Daniel H9. Did they buy Hudson? My curiosity is peaked. Hope the trigger doesn’t suck Edit that is the Hudson H9. The one I tried had an awful trigger before they went out of business. If DD fixed the parts breakage and trigger I’d give it a shot. Hudson definitely went under. Possible DD just bought the patents. Interesting to see if they could actually get them to run reliably on a mass production scale.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GEcuTKBWoAATE-J?format=jpg&name=medium Per the video posted by @Coffin-Nail there is only 1 part (a spring) that is the same. This and the PSA MP7-ish in 5.7. What a shit year to be trying to save $. 
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Posted: 1/22/2024 9:32:00 AM EST
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Posted: 1/22/2024 9:35:59 AM EST
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Posted: 1/22/2024 9:38:24 AM EST
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Per the video posted by @Coffin-Nail there is only 1 part (a spring) that is the same. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 9:39:19 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That looks badass Wonder how burning through a belt or two affects your "precision" of the "Automatic Precision Rifle." |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 9:42:32 AM EST
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Quote HistoryI remember hearing rumors that DD bought the rights. Im excited, my buddy has a H9 and it shot really nice. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 9:42:50 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Per the TFBTV video posted in this thread it was an open secret DD bought Hudson, so they got the patents. I'm not an expert or anything close on patent law, but I'd imagine they'd need those to rebuilt the pistol to what we see today. But WTF do I know? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Per the video posted by @Coffin-Nail there is only 1 part (a spring) that is the same. Per the TFBTV video posted in this thread it was an open secret DD bought Hudson, so they got the patents. I'm not an expert or anything close on patent law, but I'd imagine they'd need those to rebuilt the pistol to what we see today. But WTF do I know? Yes. (Per the video you mentioned) the blueprints/IP purchased by DD were the starting point. However, nothing remains the same (allegedly) except the single spring referenced above. It (supposedly) didn’t live up to DD’s standards and they basically took the idea of the Hudson H9 and re-engineered the whole damn thing into the DD H9. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 9:47:21 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Agree. Too bad us plebs will never get one. Wonder how burning through a belt or two affects your "precision" of the "Automatic Precision Rifle." Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That looks badass Agree. Too bad us plebs will never get one. Wonder how burning through a belt or two affects your "precision" of the "Automatic Precision Rifle." Companies need to start making FRT versions of this stuff. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 9:47:42 AM EST
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Wanted a 10/22 clone
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Posted: 1/22/2024 9:48:47 AM EST
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That PSA X5.7 has my full attention. Ill probably never be able to afford the Tommy Built MP7 clones at $3k+ if they ever actually come out, so this might be a suitable compromise
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Posted: 1/22/2024 9:56:10 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Seems this flew a bit under the radar with the H9, but DD also announced a PCC: https://danieldefense.com/pcc Looks like it takes CZ Scorpion mags and has a fully ambi lower and CHF barrel. Well, at least they didnt glock mag it. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 9:57:03 AM EST
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Some of you guys would piss and moan if you were hanged with a new rope. Be better.
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Posted: 1/22/2024 9:57:48 AM EST
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Quote HistoryNow that is swinging heat! If it works it will be an interesting weapon to watch. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 10:03:38 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Seems this flew a bit under the radar with the H9, but DD also announced a PCC: https://danieldefense.com/pcc Looks like it takes CZ Scorpion mags and has a fully ambi lower and CHF barrel. What's going on above the pivot pin 
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Posted: 1/22/2024 10:05:27 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That PSA X5.7 has my full attention. Ill probably never be able to afford the Tommy Built MP7 clones at $3k+ if they ever actually come out, so this might be a suitable compromise Looks like it's just a chassis for the Rock pistols  
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Posted: 1/22/2024 10:06:31 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What's going on above the pivot pin https://danieldefense.com/media/wysiwyg/PCC/9mm_Carbine/PCC_ambi.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Seems this flew a bit under the radar with the H9, but DD also announced a PCC: https://danieldefense.com/pcc Looks like it takes CZ Scorpion mags and has a fully ambi lower and CHF barrel. What's going on above the pivot pin https://danieldefense.com/media/wysiwyg/PCC/9mm_Carbine/PCC_ambi.jpg Probably something to do with the feed ramp. The PSA AR-V also has a bolt in feed ramp but it bolts from the front of the receiver. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 10:07:51 AM EST
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Posted: 1/22/2024 10:08:01 AM EST
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Quote HistoryHell that may get to buy a Rock if that's the case.
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Posted: 1/22/2024 10:12:51 AM EST
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Posted: 1/22/2024 10:13:07 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I dont know, man. Pistol mounted thermal is pretty amazing...and more affordable thermal in general. I think the PSA Shotgun is a smart move as well. I agree the thermal is pretty cool if it works out well enough at the price we are seeing. I was actually suppose to be there this year walking it with our sales and marketing, hopefully next year. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 10:15:11 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree the thermal is pretty cool if it works out well enough at the price we are seeing. I was actually suppose to be there this year walking it with our sales and marketing, hopefully next year. I am going to a dealer show in a couple weeks. Hopefully I get to see it then. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 10:15:23 AM EST
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Posted: 1/22/2024 10:18:44 AM EST
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A 9mm Jakl will be superior to any MP5 and likely weigh less
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