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Posted: 1/22/2024 12:00:14 PM EST
[#1]
The Vuk and 308 Jakl look real interesting from PSA.
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Posted: 1/22/2024 12:00:37 PM EST
[#2]
looks like psa will be keeping me broke this year.
But FJB is doing a great job of that anyway. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 12:02:10 PM EST
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The Vuk and 308 Jakl look real interesting from PSA. Yeah no doubt |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 12:06:49 PM EST
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What am I going to do with five PSA Daggers? Swap parts as they inevitably break at low round counts?  Jokes aside, I’ll get a 308 JAKL if they can keep it under 9 pounds. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 12:11:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The only thing wrong with the ergos of the mp5 is the safety. Easy fix. No it's not an ar15, but not everything needs to be. My experience with the a3 stribog wasn't bad, but imho it wasn't up to the standard set by the Mp5 60 years ago. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'll disagree with both of you and say bc MP5 ergos suck ass. Which is why I fall back to my original statement above in which the Bog A3 is the best PCC on the market today. Ergos, felt recoil, suppressor capability, and if you swap the lower to accept scorpion mags, it's a wrap. The only thing wrong with the ergos of the mp5 is the safety. Easy fix. No it's not an ar15, but not everything needs to be. My experience with the a3 stribog wasn't bad, but imho it wasn't up to the standard set by the Mp5 60 years ago. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 12:13:27 PM EST
[#6]
Winchester has a new 22lr lever gun called the Ranger and Browning is finally bringing 20 gauge to the new A5 series.
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Posted: 1/22/2024 12:16:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @JK-919 I saw on Reddit this morning basically a CS with island front sight. A bunch of people were mad it wasn't ported, and a bunch more argued it was silly to do on a pistol that will wear optics anyway.... So I'm also hoping for a bigger CS, mostly so I can get the smaller one this year but with more/higher capacity mags for travel. It’s not that island sight thing, check it out https://imgur.com/gallery/OjOD9Wn.jpg |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 12:20:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pain to mount optics, no lrbho, trigger sucks, mag changes suck, and obviously the safety Plenty of good optics mounts. Lrbho has been discussed. The trigger isnt as bad as people say. There are also more than a few different options now. The only problem with the mag change is the narrow magwell, and they make funnels for that. The safety, again you have options. If all you do is shoot ar's, the MP5 will feel clumsy. But if you actually spend time with the gun, you'll understand why the MP5 is so revered. If you're looking to improve on it, you need to be looking at .300blk sbr's. Not incremental improvements for a weapon type that fell out of favor in the early 2000's |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 12:22:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hoo boy. That would get all three of my votes. That's a sexy beast right there. Might keep me from buying the M110A1 that I've been considering. I was just saying this same thing |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 12:31:43 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @JK-919 I saw on Reddit this morning basically a CS with island front sight. A bunch of people were mad it wasn't ported, and a bunch more argued it was silly to do on a pistol that will wear optics anyway.... So I'm also hoping for a bigger CS, mostly so I can get the smaller one this year but with more/higher capacity mags for travel. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Any news on the staccato CS2/C3 whatever it is, longer CS gun? @JK-919 I saw on Reddit this morning basically a CS with island front sight. A bunch of people were mad it wasn't ported, and a bunch more argued it was silly to do on a pistol that will wear optics anyway.... So I'm also hoping for a bigger CS, mostly so I can get the smaller one this year but with more/higher capacity mags for travel. Here is a link to the new Staccato C. It's basically a CS with an extra .5" added to the barrel, so 4" barrel. It has the same grip and mags as the CS, but it sounds like you can put the full size Stacatto grip on it if you want. Another way to put it, it's a C2 that uses the CS grip. $2,599 and it ships this summer. Kind of meh, but I'm glad they made it. I wish they did an XC version. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 12:33:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Here is a link to the new Staccato C. It's basically a CS with an extra .5" added to the barrel, so 4" barrel. It has the same grip and mags as the CS, but it sounds like you can put the full size Stacatto grip on it if you want. Another way to put it, it's a C2 that uses the CS grip. Kind of meh, but I'm glad they made it. I wish they did a XC version. Thanks, but this is what I saw this morning: https://www.reddit.com/r/2011/s/XIpg4sMlH3 |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 12:33:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Please God, this. I don't want to watch 100 shitty videos of obnoxious people to maybe get some useful information. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'd like to see a return to photo and written coverage. The influencer and video based coverage that everyone has gone to is just awful. Every one of them, awful. Bring back SMGLee. Please God, this. I don't want to watch 100 shitty videos of obnoxious people to maybe get some useful information. Yes please, I just don't want to watch dozens of scrappy videos. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 12:33:58 PM EST
[#13]
@JK-919 your link doesn't work
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Posted: 1/22/2024 12:34:03 PM EST
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: While we're at it, there's nothing at all about the mp5 that justifies it over a .300blk sbr. However it's still the top of the heap for PCC's. It's simply a better mouse trap. You can argue about other marginal improvements that came out 60 years later, and when you're done you can go hang out with the SCAR 16 guys who made the same arguments against the ar15 PCC is the ultimate firearm pronoun and being at top of that heap isn't something to strive for 
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Posted: 1/22/2024 12:34:57 PM EST
[#15]
If they do the Thumper, hoping for a good line of 'expendables' with it.
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Posted: 1/22/2024 12:36:40 PM EST
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks, but this is what I saw this morning: https://www.reddit.com/r/2011/s/XIpg4sMlH3 Well I'm glad that was an incorrect "leak" because that would have been garbage. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 12:39:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: PCC is the ultimate firearm pronoun and being at top of that heap isn't something to strive for https://i.giphy.com/cLGXy7SXBnEWs.webp Which is why i wrote the preceding sentence. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 12:46:46 PM EST
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I'm excited to see what DD does with the Hudson. Always thought it was an interesting design. Unfortunately those guys shot themselves in the wallet when they announced that the next version would fix all the gripes people had with the first version, but it was a couple years away.
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Posted: 1/22/2024 12:48:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Which is why i wrote the preceding sentence. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: PCC is the ultimate firearm pronoun and being at top of that heap isn't something to strive for https://i.giphy.com/cLGXy7SXBnEWs.webp Which is why i wrote the preceding sentence. What if I don't want to stock 300blk. Just 9mm and 5.56? |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 12:49:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Which is why i wrote the preceding sentence. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: PCC is the ultimate firearm pronoun and being at top of that heap isn't something to strive for https://i.giphy.com/cLGXy7SXBnEWs.webp Which is why i wrote the preceding sentence. An APC45 doesn't have the issue with ineffective subs that 300blk does 
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Posted: 1/22/2024 12:58:38 PM EST
[#21]
Any word on the MKE HK33s?
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Posted: 1/22/2024 12:58:55 PM EST
[#22]
 New Staccato C EDC Race Gun! -- SHOT Show 2024 |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 1:00:32 PM EST
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @JK-919 your link doesn't work Doesn’t matter now I guess, the gun is out. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 1:03:00 PM EST
[#24]
2024 is the year of the GLOCK Carbine!
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Posted: 1/22/2024 1:03:36 PM EST
[#25]
 Vantage Point Armory Rail Mounted Compensator -- SHOT Show 2024 |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 1:04:14 PM EST
[#26]
Any news on the new Henry?
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Posted: 1/22/2024 1:05:09 PM EST
[#27]
 SilencerCo SHOT Show Product Lineup 2024 |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 1:06:28 PM EST
[#28]
Was hoping for a short bufferless 300 blk option to compete with the Rattler. Doesn't look like it'll happen though.
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Posted: 1/22/2024 1:07:31 PM EST
[#29]
 NEW 2024 Beretta 92 GTS - TheFirearmGuy |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 1:12:58 PM EST
[#30]
PSA is on fire.
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Posted: 1/22/2024 1:14:09 PM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: PSA overview of all the poll options.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yHvixS4Q4wETA: Bolt action where you choose all the parts and it's DIY is the sort of thing that I can get behind. That's the sort of niche I was talking about. Wish they'd offer 16" barrels, though. ETA2: The X5.7 sounds even cooler now. Definitely want one. X5.7 .308 Jakl VUK |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 1:14:30 PM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: PSA is on fire. What are they actually bringing to market? Prototypes are cool and all but they've shown stuff in years past they've never built so until I actually see it for sale I'm not getting excited. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 1:18:20 PM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Seems like SHOT Show 2024 is going to be a big deal this year for the first time in a long time. I'm guessing a lot of manufacturers were sitting on new products and not releasing them due to manufacturing supply chain issues that were still in effect after COVID. So, we're going to see a lot of new stuff coming out. More like they realized that the gravy train was over amd they had to spend money to make money. America has all of the AR15’s it possibly wants, they will either innovate or die. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 1:19:01 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: An APC45 doesn't have the issue with ineffective subs that 300blk does Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: PCC is the ultimate firearm pronoun and being at top of that heap isn't something to strive for https://i.giphy.com/cLGXy7SXBnEWs.webp Which is why i wrote the preceding sentence. An APC45 doesn't have the issue with ineffective subs that 300blk does .45 sub gun is still a PCC. 300BLK in SuperSonic is a rifle caliber and the subs (with decent quality projectiles) are lethal, with more energy and less drop at a longer range than a .45 ACP sub gun. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 1:24:03 PM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What are they actually bringing to market? Prototypes are cool and all but they've shown stuff in years past they've never built so until I actually see it for sale I'm not getting excited. A lot of stuff? Jakl AK-V AR-V Numerous AK variants Dagger Micro Dagger Rock 5.7 KS-47 1911's Other than the MP5 what else have they shown in the past and never built? |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 1:28:49 PM EST
[#36]
Micro Dagger 22lr mags sound awesome
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Posted: 1/22/2024 1:46:40 PM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryThose comps hardly ever work as good as a barrel mounted setup ... |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 1:51:03 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A lot of stuff? Jakl AK-V AR-V Numerous AK variants Dagger Micro Dagger Rock 5.7 KS-47 1911's Other than the MP5 what else have they shown in the past and never built? Some people just need to buy a turk mp5 and stop complaining about PSA not making one. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 1:52:52 PM EST
[#39]
 
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Posted: 1/22/2024 1:54:30 PM EST
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Like many others have said in this thread, the coverage has become awful. Rushed 10 minute videos about the same 5 products with 9 minutes of forced banter and bullshitting, and 1 minute of interspersed info.
Is there anyone doing the old "Here's a long series of photos of new products with a one sentence description of each" thing anymore? Even something thats slightly similar? The best thing about it was that the smaller, niche, and more interesting stuff was covered during the show, and you didn't have to wait until a week later to hear about it. I get that these people won't get the clicks, likes, subscribers, and potential ad revenue from that format, but it really is so much easier to digest. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 1:56:53 PM EST
[#41]
Damnit now I want to sell one of my Aero M5 builds and get a 308 Jackl
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Posted: 1/22/2024 2:05:53 PM EST
[#42]
A Hi-Point Yeet Cannon carbine upscaled for 50 Beowulf.
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Posted: 1/22/2024 2:11:48 PM EST
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Posted: 1/22/2024 2:17:44 PM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryUgh, who wants a moldy gun? |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 2:20:00 PM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How? That's an absolute truckload of new products for one company in one year. I'm not sure even Ruger has ever dropped this much at once. The momentum of this company right now is incredible. Expanding the Dagger line by 3 calibers that all require significant engineering changes, introducing their first shotgun and bolt action rifle, introducing an MP7 clone in 5.7, and making PCC and Bullpup variants of the JAKL all at the same time is pretty wild. Not long ago, PSA was just some website where people went for cheap ARs. For them to go from that to this so quickly is astonishing and impressive. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 2:20:04 PM EST
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Will need to look at what PSA is teasing about. The 1854 S&W is interesting - but only a better review will see what it is actually bringing to the table over the Marlin. Fine wood and good bluing is great - but not going to sell much at their price point. The tactical completely misses the mark with me (and I like tactical lever actions). I don't exeptionally like the stock, I don't really want shiny stainless on a tactical, I don't really want an 18" barrel on a tactical. I do not especially mind the 336 ejection port on an 1894 patterned rifle, or putting in a sling stud on the barrel band - but not the greatest idea if you are going to shoot with a sling. Would need to put it on a scale, but the barrel looks like it has a heavier profile, and the ammo tube is probably heavier as well (but I do like that style loading, and do like that it has both styles of loading). Anyway, mostly my issue is the cosmetics, ugly front stock.
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Posted: 1/22/2024 2:26:32 PM EST
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Quote History |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 2:33:57 PM EST
[#48]
That was funny ????
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Posted: 1/22/2024 2:42:59 PM EST
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Pics were posted on the Book of Faces today of the sights off a new Henry lever rifle chambered in either .223 or .300 which uses AR mags.
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Posted: 1/22/2024 2:45:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: .45 sub gun is still a PCC. Nobody won a World War with a 9mm SMG. |
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