Sometimes the ROW has been there for years and they have done nothing with until its almost project time.  They are gonna hire us to go through and survey.  When it is clear they'll move forward with the project.  Same with easements, sometimes it is a UT, sometimes road expansion, whatever.  No company like mine goes out there in some uniform, especially not those of the company that hired us.  Those are for their employees.  

Its easy to go back and read the posts and see why I jumped in.

Fine.  Call the Sheriff, I'll tell you to do that before you get the bright idea.

Do you really not know what ID is for?

What is the first thing a cop does in an investigation? Do you think they would do that when investigating trespassing?

Better question how much rural land do you own? What experience in managing rural land do you have?

What are you talking about?  You're the one saying you'd demand an ID, like there's anything you could do with one (there isn't).  From the get go, I said the Sheriff could see it.

Can you read?  Sub-contracting to UT  companies is exactly what I do for a living, and exactly what you know nothing about.  Yet just just keep posting.

If you don't have work ID, and you're on my property at night, you're leaving.

It's not rocket science

If you're not the easement holder on the deed then expect to provide some plausible reason to be acting as the easement holder's agent.  I've never had to ask for ID because everyone (so far) wasn't an entitled stuck up asshole looking for a fight.

And they weren't showing up after sun-down unable to speak English.

Gee, doesn't sound like the leaky Chechen did that.  I wonder why???

Nobody said I was on your property at night, did they?  I said multiple times I work in the day.  I do not have a UT or company ID.  You wouldn't know if a sub-contractor one was legit anyway, and no, you don't need to see my DL.

How much more stupid shit are you guys gonna make up to argue against.  Simple fact is, subs don't have to have uniforms or IDs of your liking and many won't.  That's all there is to it.  Sorry you can't do reality.

Yeah but it isn't just calling the Sheriff. If you don't have proof with you to access through the easement, then you can GTFO right now and come back after we see it.

It's amazing you haven't been run off at gunpoint by now. Your outfit must do a much better than average job of notifications.

In all the years of all the property owners I've dealt with, we have come across one legitimate guy like you in the 90s. But the notifications were lacking. So he got run off at gun point. He got his panties in a bunch about it, and the law told him to stop being a dumbass or expect to get treated like a tresspasser if he wanted to look and act like one. That was in the middle of the day.

So zero experience as a rural land owner? Not surprising.

City people are clueless.

People are pointing out that your full of shit and bringing up crap that's irrelevant to the situation.

This was at night.

So maybe quit acting like your experience is somehow relevant.

They already did with a notification.  I am out there working and getting stuff done, you're the one looking for drama.  I don't have a company ID to show you anyway, nor do others.   They don't have to.

The funny thing is that "I'm with the power company I'm here to..." is probably the best way to get offed tractor/quad/utv keys, drinks, lunch etc.

It's almost like people like having shit like A/C and hot water.

What are you asking me for?  

I am just saying it's a nothingburger that they had no Arfcom approved ID, logoed car, or uniform.  It's actually normal.

This thread sucks now

Grew up that way, but nice try.

I had a surveyor on my property and road the other day, dressed like an alcoholic bum who just got released from the local drunk tank.

Dude was driving a ratty ass Ford ranger with a busted tail light and cracked windshield. The only reason I did not draw down on him was that he had his surveyor equipment out and was doing his plotting. I asked him what he was doing and he told me he was surveying the property that was sold across street from me, and the guy was not acting like an asshole or drunk dipshit.

Simply put, it might be different up there in that commie shithole Washington State. But everyone who's ever came on my private property notice or not if they are not in a uniform, wearing an ID badge or showing me one. Is not in a marked vehicle of some kind. Plus, if they especially show up after or near dark in a privately owned vehicle and do not speak English enough to communicate is going to have damn problems.  

They are going to get the fuck off my property until I can verify who they fucking are. I guess you being in Washington St, where they refuse to prosecute criminals, and allows trespassers to do whatever the hell they want is different from many other states.

From my experience I have as many other here I bet. Have put people off my property who claim to be whatever they hell they said they were until they could prove it.  But seriously everything most of us had heard in the news about Washington State would not fly in many other states. Pull your crap with that attitude down here and you'll see just how your tough bs towards property owners like that down here gets you. Sheriff won't side with your ass either. As a matter of fact the sheriff has said many times to identify anyone that comes on your property who claims to work for the county or are subs.

Furthermore your bs statement of basically telling me to call the sheriff to find out who you are. No you can call the sheriff after I escort you off my property and if you resist or touch me in anyway on my property will not end like it might in that shithole state you live in where criminals have more rights than law abiding criminals. Your attitude sucks and will get you hurt in places down here.

Any man has an absolute right to know who's on their property. Every man has a right to ask for identification of anyone who is on their property or trust me you will get the fuck escorted off and you can call the sheriff and sheriff will ask property owner if you threaten them in anyway when asked to leave for refusing to verifywho you are. Seriously wtf is wrong with you. Sorry but your attitude towards property owners suck. 99.99% of all utility workers and subs have knocked on my door to inform me they'd be on my property. They all wore ID badges and had marked work vehicles. If I was not at home they left door hangers informing they were there with a phone number.

People have been conned by people who acts just like you down here. So you will show ID if you were down here and I'm not calling anyone until you're off my property. You'd not be the first either politely escorted off either until I could verify who you are. Damn.......

As a sub for UT companies, my experience is relevant when it comes to what some Arfcom people think about them needing to wear, IDs, uniforms, logos, all the shit you people are making up for some reason.  I am telling you from years of experience they don't need that stuff and often won't have it.

Why are you even arguing about it.  Can you come up with some rule somewhere that says they do need that stuff?

I am not with the power company, I am a sub-contractor hired by the power company.

I notice they are all wearing Hi Vis vests and marked company trucks.

No one's arguing about it but you and you'rebasicallytelling propertyowner they can fuck off they have zero right to question who you are. Here in Florida you will have an ID and will show it if you're not wearing it. Refuse to show ID to property owners down here and you will get gtfo owners property. This is not Washington state.

Well that explains everything.

But that said down here even the subs have IDs on them or wears them on their company shirts, marked vehicles. I've worked just about every emergency involving downed lines, busted street pipes, tree trimming accidents, etc. with fire rescue. I've never not seen unidentifiable vehicles, etc....

I don't care, call the Sheriff.  How are you going to "verify" anything?

The UT companies do not hand out some magic UT ID to sub-contractors.

I subcontracted for a natural gas company for a bit. I had a logod teeshirt, hard hat, ID on lanyard, and a marked vehicle. But obviously your experience is the only truth here.

Have you worked an archaeological survey emergency?  How about a biology one?  Geology?  Land survey? Forestry?  They're all subs.  I get .067 per mile to drive my own car.

My experience says sub-contractors don't all have that and don't have to.  That is the truth, a simple fact.

I have no idea why you guys think you have to argue otherwise.  It's ridiculous.

I don't give a fuck what you do. But you'll get your ass off my property to and if you were able to read. I said you can call the sheriff, after you are escorted off and if you resisted in such a manor or touched me in anyway down here that made fear for my life or great bodily harm in anyway. It will not end like your smart ass thinks it would. You do not treat people the way you claim you do. I don't give a damn what you do in that commie state you live in. But try your crap down here.

Maybe not in Washington state.

Hold up.

What?

Did it occur to you that different companies, working different contracts, with different utilities, in different states might have different requirements?

Maybe, just maybe, we can listen to the multiple guys here posting, that live in that area, instead of you shitting up the thread with irrelevant nonsense and terrible takes, for page after page.

He was talking about emergency experience, and subs.  We don't really ever have emergencies.

Please just stop it. You've gone totally off basis. You basically posted that property owners could kiss your ass if they asked for any kind of verification of who you are if you were on their property.

Are you purposely trying to get this thread locked with your nonsense. You live in Washington, where law-abiding Americans have no rights. I guess that includes property rights also. As stated, other states absolutely do operate differently, and some even have laws that protect property owners. Here in my state you will present an ID if asked by property owner if you are on their property. You also will leave that property if told to do so if you refuse to identify yourself to property owner.

Did it occur to you that subs don't always have all that crap and are not required to?  Fact.

.067? Or .67?

Not off basis.  I posted they could call the sheriff or UT.  I don't have a company ID to show them, neither do thousands of others.

You seem to be unable to comprehend that people absolutely have a right to kick somebody off their property when they have no way of identifying who they are or what they're doing. In most places just saying "I'm a contractor" doesn't mean you can do whatever you want. I guarentee you don't get this beligerent with the people you come across in real life.

Sorry .67.

True story. I had an "alleged" solar worker come onto my property in an unmarked utility truck with no decals, wearing  sun glasses and a ball cap with jeans and a flannel shirt on. The guy was middle eastern and said his name was Frank. He could not produce an ID and asked to leave my property which he did. A day later I get an email from a company called 365 Pronto with no call back number saying a contractor would be out to check my solar system. A pretty shady situation.

I quoted your post.

WTF are you talking about?

I would recommend that you get some logoed shirts and vests and a couple of magnetic signs for your truck.

It may be some of the best life insurance you can buy.

People I come in contact don't act like you, no.  None of them ever have acted as straight to the bone dense as some of you guys in this thread.  None have ever "drew down" as a couple have said.  I can't think of more than a few that even asked us what we were doing over all those years, and even then they were just curious and not being some kind of "trespass" hero.  In more than 25 years.  

You seem to not comprehend that I have posted over and over they can call the Sheriff or the UT.

If you refuse to identify yourself, drive an unmarked vehicle, and basically tell me you don't have to identify anything to anyone. Think about it, who would I call and who would I say I'm trying to identify. Your state is not like a lot of other states and have different laws that must be followed. But again are you trying to derail this thread by repeating the same thing over and over ignoring all other comments and even basically saying anyone who disagrees with you is a dumbass.

Thousands of subs have been working without all that stuff for 6+ decades.

Some stealthy dudes seeing how we haven't seen them over here on the east coast.

Lol so basically you work with a team of guys on a ROW. That has any bearing on the original story in this thread how? There is a big difference between one guy sneaking at dusk and a crew working; but maybe you're "too dense" to understand that.

"Don't have to identify to anyone."  Where exactly was that posted?  I don't have to identify to YOU.  If you can't mind your own business about it even after you have been notified, you can call the Sheriff or the UT.  I don't have a trespass hero approved ID anyway, just a DL that isn't going to help you at all.

How are the "laws on sub-contracting" different in other states as it applies to this thread?  This should be good.

They're there.  Lots of them.