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Posted: 8/26/2019 4:54:03 PM EST
[#1]
Just go with Wilson Combat 1911s, it's just taxpayer money.
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Posted: 8/26/2019 4:58:20 PM EST
[#2]
Well, that's fairly dumb.
Seriously, what can a 1911/2011 do for them that a GLOCK can't for a fifth the price? The Tribal Marshals here in OK switched back to GLOCK from the 2011. |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 4:59:01 PM EST
[#3]
I carried a Springfield Pro for years on duty, and still love 1911s. However, even I saw the light and switched to the G19. Most likely a case of cool guys wanting to have a gun that the rank and file can’t have.
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Posted: 8/26/2019 5:01:14 PM EST
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Well, that's fairly dumb. Seriously, what can a 1911/2011 do for them that a GLOCK can't for a fifth the price? The Tribal Marshals here in OK switched back to GLOCK from the 2011. 
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Posted: 8/26/2019 5:03:12 PM EST
[#5]
That's stupid.
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Posted: 8/26/2019 5:03:12 PM EST
[#6]
One way to cut down on stolen valor.
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Posted: 8/26/2019 5:03:45 PM EST
[#7]
I enjoy my STI in both 1911 and 2011 varieties. 9mm, .40sw
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I choose to carry my P30SK or P2000SK, the glocks feel like toys |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 5:05:55 PM EST
[#8]
Nothing is too good for our government employees.
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Posted: 8/26/2019 5:06:15 PM EST
[#9]
Cost per unit vs Glock? No way would I take what amounts to a super expensive race gun into a potential shoot out. I’ll stick with my Austrian Tupperware.
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Posted: 8/26/2019 5:07:14 PM EST
[#10]
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Just go with Wilson Combat 1911s, it's just taxpayer money. |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 5:08:36 PM EST
[#11]
neat
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Posted: 8/26/2019 5:10:28 PM EST
[#12]
Seems like a legit use of taxpayer money. Maybe next time they shouldn't try and save so much and buy everyone Wilson SuperGrades.
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Posted: 8/26/2019 5:11:24 PM EST
[#13]
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Cost per unit vs Glock? No way would I take what amounts to a super expensive race gun into a potential shoot out. I’ll stick with my Austrian Tupperware. So that's like 87 Glocks per STI or something. |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 5:11:25 PM EST
[#14]
I want to know how they kept the magazines from turning into salt shakers during reliability testing.
I'm a 2011 fan, I own one and shot many. Mag reliability has always been the weakest area. You gotta keep them suckers clean. Should have bought Glocks. |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 5:13:43 PM EST
[#15]
Lol what a joke.
Just to flex on the poors A combat weapon system the 2011 is not. Yeah sf got some STIs some years go and never used em... |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 5:14:08 PM EST
[#16]
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I want to know how they kept the magazines from turning into salt shakers during reliability testing. I'm a 2011 fan, I own one and shot many. Mag reliability has always been the weakest area. You gotta keep them suckers clean. Should have bought Glocks. |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 5:14:09 PM EST
[#17]
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I want to know how they kept the magazines from turning into salt shakers during reliability testing. I'm a 2011 fan, I own one and shot many. Mag reliability has always been the weakest area. You gotta keep them suckers clean. Should have bought Glocks. |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 5:14:39 PM EST
[#18]
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Lol what a joke. Just to flex on the poors A combat weapon system the 2011 is not. Yeah sf got some STIs some years go and never used em... |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 5:14:59 PM EST
[#19]
In this thread.
Jimmies will be rustled |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 5:15:28 PM EST
[#20]
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Seriously, what can a 1911/2011 do for them that a GLOCK can't for a fifth the price? 2) Smoother traveling slide during operation are two that immediately come to mind. |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 5:15:43 PM EST
[#21]
The gun you shoot and practice with is better than the gun you don’t. The 2011 is a pleasure to shoot unlike the Glock. So perhaps they’ll want to take it to the range.
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Posted: 8/26/2019 5:16:25 PM EST
[#22]
Shes a pretty little thing! |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 5:16:45 PM EST
[#23]
I have an itch for a 2011 real bad. But I just don’t see my self CCW one so I’ll go be poor over here with my 19x
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Posted: 8/26/2019 5:17:14 PM EST
[#24]
Disgusting waste of taxpayer money.
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Posted: 8/26/2019 5:17:49 PM EST
[#25]
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The gun you shoot and practice with is better than the gun you don’t. The 2011 is a pleasure to shoot unlike the Glock. So perhaps they’ll want to take it to the range.  Did you just justify this monumental waste of taxpayer dollars on the basis of MAYBE, SOME people will get more range time because they "like" their gun more? |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 5:18:15 PM EST
[#26]
I don’t think the US Marshalls are allowed to handle explosives. Good Choice.
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Posted: 8/26/2019 5:18:41 PM EST
[#27]
Glocks are like the overweight skank at the bar every night blowing dues in the bathroom for free.
yeah she's easy, she's good for that night you need her, but you don't want to be caught with her on your hip out on the town |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 5:18:58 PM EST
[#28]
Delta already tried to go that route years ago. It didn't work.
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Posted: 8/26/2019 5:19:17 PM EST
[#29]
Bet the guys who get to be armorers will be able to do a lot less work on them if needed than Glock armorers can do.
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Posted: 8/26/2019 5:19:34 PM EST
[#30]
Those guys get in big gun fights once a week?
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Posted: 8/26/2019 5:23:49 PM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 1) A better trigger 2) Smoother traveling slide during operation are two that immediately come to mind. Yes, I am about to get dog piled by the GD Striker Fired This is My Safety brigade, don't care. LE guns get drawn, pointed, and quickly and blindly reholstered FAR more than they get used to shoot people. LE guns also are often in hand during activities likely to lead to negligent discharges. They probably shouldn't be, but the reality is they are, and will be because people do dumb shit under stress despite training. I can think of 5-10 ND incidents from personal experience that would not have happened with a manual safety engaged. Don't even get me started on the Safariland Glock holsters cut for WMLs that let a sausage finger sized object into the trigger guard while holstered with all retention devices engaged. |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 5:23:52 PM EST
[#32]
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https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ChubbyBaggyIrishdraughthorse-size_restricted.gif Did you just justify this monumental waste of taxpayer dollars on the basis of MAYBE, SOME people will get more range time because they "like" their gun more? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The gun you shoot and practice with is better than the gun you don’t. The 2011 is a pleasure to shoot unlike the Glock. So perhaps they’ll want to take it to the range. Did you just justify this monumental waste of taxpayer dollars on the basis of MAYBE, SOME people will get more range time because they "like" their gun more? It doesn’t have to be Gucci, but if you are carrying it everyday it should be something you like and are comfortable shooting. |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 5:24:39 PM EST
[#33]
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why-the-u-s-marshals-picked-a-100-year-old-gun-over-the-glock Not surprised they went 2011. I see a lot of TX Rangers and US Marshall's carry their 1911s. I know 2 Rangers and 2 Marshall's personally, and they are as you say "good ole boys" and they like themselves some 1911 By the way, the website has aids or something retarded, my pop up blocker went nuts. |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 5:25:04 PM EST
[#34]
STI’s are great guns BUT still had to be tweaked for reliability.
Glocks just work right out of the box. I don’t see this as a leap forward as much as a “we are getting what we want” despite purchasing protocols kind of thing. |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 5:25:07 PM EST
[#35]
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In this thread. Jimmies will be rustled |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 5:25:28 PM EST
[#36]
Can't add anything constructive to the argument but, STI makes some bad ass guns. I love my DVC3GUN.
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Posted: 8/26/2019 5:25:41 PM EST
[#37]
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Well, that's fairly dumb. Seriously, what can a 1911/2011 do for them that a GLOCK can't for a fifth the price? |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 5:28:23 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Seriously, what can a 1911/2011 do for them that a GLOCK can't for a fifth the price? |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 5:31:22 PM EST
[#39]
The biggest thing is that the 2011 magazines are pretty sketch, to the point that Dawson sells a $99 tuning kit for them:
https://dawsonprecision.com/dawson-precision-sti-2011-hicap-magazine-tuning-kit/ This is a 'feature' unique to the 2011; I'm not aware of any other pistol by major manufacturers that require tuning. |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 5:33:23 PM EST
[#40]
Well shit, taxes are gonna be going up next year.
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Posted: 8/26/2019 5:36:06 PM EST
[#41]
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The biggest thing is that the 2011 magazines are pretty sketch, to the point that Dawson sells a $99 tuning kit for them: https://dawsonprecision.com/dawson-precision-sti-2011-hicap-magazine-tuning-kit/ This is a 'feature' unique to the 2011; I'm not aware of any other pistol by major manufacturers that require tuning. |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 5:37:02 PM EST
[#42]
Yeah, I listened to that P&S podcast too.
Individual officer price is like $1250? Small arms are funny. The govt spends literal billions on esoteric specialized vehicles that are defunct almost immediately, but we could outfit every warrior with a fully outfitted KAC über carbine for relatively cheap. I’ll bet the US Marshalls have spent millions upon millions in silly fruitless programs of their own. Why not get a few good blasters for once? |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 5:37:48 PM EST
[#43]
Lol muh 2011 muh glass trigger
Anyone who uses a gun for a job doesnt give a damn what gun they are using as long as it goes bang when it needs to and carries enough rounds. Admit it, they just said “ooo sti 2011 cool lets get em, glocks are tupperware guns huuu” Youre a fudd if you think its justified They are sick ass guns but what a monumental waste of $$$ A 2011 will never have the track record of the glock series, sig series, or any other off the shelf handgun. They picked them because they look cool Plus its US marshals so they probably only ever shoot them during training and the one time they have to pop a round every full moon on some aggressor |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 5:39:17 PM EST
[#44]
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STI’s are great guns BUT still had to be tweaked for reliability. Glocks just work right out of the box. I don’t see this as a leap forward as much as a “we are getting what we want” despite purchasing protocols kind of thing. |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 5:39:51 PM EST
[#45]
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The biggest thing is that the 2011 magazines are pretty sketch, to the point that Dawson sells a $99 tuning kit for them: https://dawsonprecision.com/dawson-precision-sti-2011-hicap-magazine-tuning-kit/ This is a 'feature' unique to the 2011; I'm not aware of any other pistol by major manufacturers that require tuning. Also in the quest for more capacity a competition follower is very short and not very anti tilt which leads to the salt shaker action (and even rounds ending up under the follower). |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 5:40:35 PM EST
[#46]
Cool story.
Just don’t get into a gunfight and everything will be fine. |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 5:41:32 PM EST
[#47]
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why-the-u-s-marshals-picked-a-100-year-old-gun-over-the-glock Not surprised they went 2011. I see a lot of TX Rangers and US Marshall's carry their 1911s. I know 2 Rangers and 2 Marshall's personally, and they are as you say "good ole boys" and they like themselves some 1911 By the way, the website has aids or something retarded, my pop up blocker went nuts.
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Posted: 8/26/2019 5:41:39 PM EST
[#48]
I wonder how much of this boils down to Texas being Texas and needing to be different for the sake of being different.
I mean, it checks every box for Texan pride... -Different than what everyone else uses -A Texas company founded by a Texan (Virgil Tripp). |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 5:41:42 PM EST
[#49]
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Why not get a few good blasters for once? It is probably done for the same reason most SWAT gear is acquired to fix problems that don't exist: So they still look cool and different. Our SWAT team had perfectly functional navy blue jumpsuits they wore under all their gear. When the department changed uniforms and regular patrol wore all navy uniforms with optional MOLLE carriers there was a sudden and inexplicable pressing need for SWAT to switch everything to "urban grey." As much as we'd all like to believe that "special" military and police units are all about mission first, the fact is a whole lot of their decision making circles back to "look at me." For example, military special units and the pervasive Viking beard, you know, so tribal elders respect them or some such bullshit. |
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Posted: 8/26/2019 5:41:48 PM EST
[#50]
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I want to know how they kept the magazines from turning into salt shakers during reliability testing. I'm a 2011 fan, I own one and shot many. Mag reliability has always been the weakest area. You gotta keep them suckers clean. Should have bought Glocks. |
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