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Link Posted: 10/12/2019 2:28:00 PM EST
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Link Posted: 10/12/2019 2:38:18 PM EST
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A Relationship With Jeffrey Epstein That Bill Gates Now ‘Regrets’



At Jeffrey Epstein’s Manhattan mansion in 2011, from left: James E. Staley, at the time a senior JPMorgan executive; former Treasury Secretary Lawrence Summers; Mr. Epstein; Bill Gates, Microsoft’s co-founder; and Boris Nikolic, who was the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation’s science adviser.

Mr. Gates, the Microsoft co-founder, whose $100 billion-plus fortune has endowed the world’s largest charitable organization, has done his best to minimize his connections to Mr. Epstein. “I didn’t have any business relationship or friendship with him,” he told The Wall Street Journal last month.
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In fact, beginning in 2011, Mr. Gates met with Mr. Epstein on numerous occasions — including at least three times at Mr. Epstein’s palatial Manhattan townhouse, and at least once staying late into the night, according to interviews with more than a dozen people familiar with the relationship, as well as documents reviewed by The New York Times.

Employees of Mr. Gates’s foundation also paid multiple visits to Mr. Epstein’s mansion. And Mr. Epstein spoke with the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and JPMorgan Chase about a proposed multibillion-dollar charitable fund — an arrangement that had the potential to generate enormous fees for Mr. Epstein.

“His lifestyle is very different and kind of intriguing although it would not work for me,” Mr. Gates emailed colleagues in 2011, after his first get-together with Mr. Epstein.

Bridgitt Arnold, a spokeswoman for Mr. Gates, said he “was referring only to the unique décor of the Epstein residence — and Epstein’s habit of spontaneously bringing acquaintances in to meet Mr. Gates.”

“It was in no way meant to convey a sense of interest or approval,” she said.

Over and over, Mr. Epstein managed to cultivate close relationships with some of the world’s most powerful men. He lured them with the whiff of money and the proximity to other powerful, famous or wealthy people — so much so that many looked past his reputation for sexual misconduct. And the more people he drew into his circle, the easier it was for him to attract others.

(see link for entire article)
Link Posted: 10/12/2019 3:04:00 PM EST
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Look for the pic of the HuffPo editorial board.  100% 20-30ish year old women.   Even Shep can't "pass" for that role.
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Where's their cats?
Link Posted: 10/12/2019 3:19:21 PM EST
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Domestic Enemies.
Link Posted: 10/12/2019 3:56:15 PM EST
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Link Posted: 10/12/2019 6:19:02 PM EST
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Trump seams very confident tonight at the Family Research Council Values Voter Summit.  Talking about Killary wanting to rip babies from the womb in the 9th month.
Link Posted: 10/12/2019 7:12:11 PM EST
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Couple of articles on the deep state trying to pull a coup. GD has threads on these two articles (here and here). See links below for entire articles.

We're in a permanent coup

My discomfort in the last few years, first with Russiagate and now with Ukrainegate and impeachment, stems from the belief that the people pushing hardest for Trump’s early removal are more dangerous than Trump. Many Americans don’t see this because they’re not used to waking up in a country where you’re not sure who the president will be by nightfall. They don’t understand that this predicament is worse than having a bad president.

The Trump presidency is the first to reveal a full-blown schism between the intelligence community and the White House. Senior figures in the CIA, NSA, FBI and other agencies made an open break from their would-be boss before Trump’s inauguration, commencing a public war of leaks that has not stopped.
Whistleblowers and the Real Deep State (WSJ paywall)
Link Posted: 10/12/2019 7:15:53 PM EST
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No.  His point is sadly unrefutable.  It's not like you can tell a navy pilot to draw a Q in the sky without reading him into the entire operation.
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You didn't get your secret decoder ring like the rest of us?
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No.  His point is sadly unrefutable.  It's not like you can tell a navy pilot to draw a Q in the sky without reading him into the entire operation.
So what you're saying is that the Navy aviators (please note the correction) were told to draw a dick in the sky some months back?
Link Posted: 10/12/2019 7:24:52 PM EST
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If it was supposed to be a Q, perhaps the “Naval Aviator” is a Q aficionado and chose to do it on his own.
Link Posted: 10/12/2019 7:34:32 PM EST
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Or it could simply be that he turned the smoke on a little too early while performing an outside loop and it just happens to look like a Q. The Angels are good, but using smoke during an aerial display is not an exact science.
Link Posted: 10/12/2019 7:41:48 PM EST
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If it was supposed to be a Q, perhaps the “Naval Aviator” is a Q aficionado and chose to do it on his own.
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My point, which you have proven, is that it's anything BUT "unrefutable" that a Naval Aviator would have drawn a Q in the sky w/o being read into the operation.
Link Posted: 10/12/2019 7:43:23 PM EST
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My point, which you have proven, is that it's anything BUT "unrefutable" that a Naval Aviator would have drawn a Q in the sky w/o being read into the operation.
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Or it could simply be that he turned the smoke on a little too early while performing an outside loop and it just happens to look like a Q. The Angels are good, but using smoke during an aerial display is not an exact science.
My point, which you have proven, is that it's anything BUT "unrefutable" that a Naval Aviator would have drawn a Q in the sky w/o being read into the operation.
The point is that you can't even establish it is a Q to begin with with a skyscraper in the way.
Link Posted: 10/12/2019 8:39:08 PM EST
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The point is that you can't even establish it is a Q to begin with with a skyscraper in the way.
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Or it could simply be that he turned the smoke on a little too early while performing an outside loop and it just happens to look like a Q. The Angels are good, but using smoke during an aerial display is not an exact science.
My point, which you have proven, is that it's anything BUT "unrefutable" that a Naval Aviator would have drawn a Q in the sky w/o being read into the operation.
The point is that you can't even establish it is a Q to begin with with a skyscraper in the way.
I don't disagree, but that was far from your first argument against it, and then someone quoted you as having an "unrefutable" argument.
Link Posted: 10/12/2019 9:05:55 PM EST
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Don't bother. He's the type that is never wrong. He'll change what he said to make sure he can never be made to eat his words.

EDIT: remember when certain people said FISA abuse could not/would not ever happen ? Those same people never admitted they were so wrong.
Link Posted: 10/12/2019 9:20:57 PM EST
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Don't bother. He's the type that is never wrong. He'll change what he said to make sure he can never be made to eat his words.

EDIT: remember when certain people said FISA abuse could not/would not ever happen ? Those same people never admitted they were so wrong.
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I usually don't.  Folk like the D are why I have an Ignore list.
Link Posted: 10/12/2019 9:22:29 PM EST
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Link Posted: 10/12/2019 9:33:27 PM EST
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Seems as if Barr is telling the world who he really is and which side he is on.
Link Posted: 10/12/2019 9:34:57 PM EST
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Prosecute.  
Link Posted: 10/12/2019 9:40:12 PM EST
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It could also just as easily be “just the tip”
Since the large building obscures parts of the smoke trails
Link Posted: 10/12/2019 9:41:12 PM EST
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Link Posted: 10/12/2019 9:41:29 PM EST
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Watch the short video in this Tweet.

Link Posted: 10/12/2019 9:45:04 PM EST
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Do something Sessions...I mean Barr
Link Posted: 10/12/2019 9:47:45 PM EST
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If that's her then she should be removed from congress.
Link Posted: 10/12/2019 9:54:21 PM EST
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LA showing their MAGA.

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Link Posted: 10/12/2019 9:54:26 PM EST
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Video inside

Link Posted: 10/12/2019 9:59:29 PM EST
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Link Posted: 10/12/2019 10:04:51 PM EST
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So what you're saying is that the Navy aviators (please note the correction) were told to draw a dick in the sky some months back?
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Some Marines that stole a radio perhaps?
Link Posted: 10/12/2019 10:06:58 PM EST
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that looks remarkable to me, except maybe Republicans often do well on voting day, then are taken down with absentee (aka, boxes of stuffed ballots like Broward, FL).
Link Posted: 10/12/2019 11:02:17 PM EST
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Link Posted: 10/12/2019 11:28:24 PM EST
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Link Posted: 10/13/2019 12:23:06 AM EST
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Putting the pieces together  OR  not getting the cooperation they were seeking the first time?

Link Posted: 10/13/2019 12:33:19 AM EST
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Gateway Pundit now reporting on the Omar/ANTIFA thing.

Link Posted: 10/13/2019 12:49:36 AM EST
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True or not? Have never known the truth about this Larry Nichols dude. Can certainly imagine the Clintons being a part of everything he's ever talked about. However, why leave Larry alive to talk about things so openly and freely. Of course, if the Clintons and/or cabal hired someone else to kill Larry, they run the risk of having to continue to need new hires over & over. Don't know anything about the supply & demand of hired hit men and dirty doers. Tis a conundrum.  

https://truepundit.com/clinton-whistleblower-feds-investigating-adam-schiffs-disturbing-behavior-at-ed-bucks-meth-sex-house/

"Larry Nichols is the consumate DC insider and operator. In fact, Bill Clinton in his biography described Nichols as a dangerous man. Clinton would know because Nichols spearheaded many of Clinton’s political black-bag Ops in Arkansas and Washington D.C for the Clinton cartel and beyond before he turned whistleblower.

Nichols revealed on his weekly news show on CrowdSource the Truth that federal agents have traced Congressman Schiff at Buck’s drug mansion over a dozen times. And now they want to know what Schiff was doing there.

“(Attorney General William) Barr is looking into why Adam Schiff was at Buck’s place 16 times,” said insider Larry Nichols. “The reason Barr is obligated to look into Adam Schiff, and the fact that he was there 16 times, is because as a member of Congress if he saw at his time at Buck’s any illegal activity, he is obligated by law to report it.

“And if he didn’t report it, then he is guilty of a crime.”

Two men previously died at Buck’s mansion from drug overdoses but Buck was never charged by Los Angeles Police. Finally, Buck was charged in Sept. with running a drug house and doping up victims and then allegedly acting out his twisted sexual fantasies on the incapacitated victims, according to prosecutors.

Buck targeted homeless men, according to prosecutors.

Nichols said Schiff, like Buck, is under investigation.

Who will be the first to rat the other one out?

This story is developing."
Link Posted: 10/13/2019 1:28:46 AM EST
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True or not? Have never known the truth about this Larry Nichols dude. Can certainly imagine the Clintons being a part of everything he's ever talked about. However, why leave Larry alive to talk about things so openly and freely. Of course, if the Clintons and/or cabal hired someone else to kill Larry, they run the risk of having to continue to need new hires over & over. Don't know anything about the supply & demand of hired hit men and dirty doers. Tis a conundrum.  

https://truepundit.com/clinton-whistleblower-feds-investigating-adam-schiffs-disturbing-behavior-at-ed-bucks-meth-sex-house/

"Larry Nichols is the consumate DC insider and operator. In fact, Bill Clinton in his biography described Nichols as a dangerous man. Clinton would know because Nichols spearheaded many of Clinton’s political black-bag Ops in Arkansas and Washington D.C for the Clinton cartel and beyond before he turned whistleblower.

Nichols revealed on his weekly news show on CrowdSource the Truth that federal agents have traced Congressman Schiff at Buck’s drug mansion over a dozen times. And now they want to know what Schiff was doing there.

“(Attorney General William) Barr is looking into why Adam Schiff was at Buck’s place 16 times,” said insider Larry Nichols. “The reason Barr is obligated to look into Adam Schiff, and the fact that he was there 16 times, is because as a member of Congress if he saw at his time at Buck’s any illegal activity, he is obligated by law to report it.

“And if he didn’t report it, then he is guilty of a crime.”

Two men previously died at Buck’s mansion from drug overdoses but Buck was never charged by Los Angeles Police. Finally, Buck was charged in Sept. with running a drug house and doping up victims and then allegedly acting out his twisted sexual fantasies on the incapacitated victims, according to prosecutors.

Buck targeted homeless men, according to prosecutors.

Nichols said Schiff, like Buck, is under investigation.

Who will be the first to rat the other one out?

This story is developing."
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lol

when schiff head stuff comes out--he is so screwed
Link Posted: 10/13/2019 1:35:11 AM EST
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Link Posted: 10/13/2019 1:44:50 AM EST
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They have been doing this for at least 80 years.
Link Posted: 10/13/2019 5:59:47 AM EST
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Fake news to gain control has been going on for at least 2000 years.

https://www.ft.com/content/aaf2bb08-dca2-11e6-86ac-f253db7791c6

A long time ago, in a republic far away, a civil war broke out igniting a fake news crisis. It started when Julius Caesar appointed himself dictator for life in 44BC, a move that unnerved traditionalist republican factions which considered it an attack on Roman liberty. Led by Brutus and calling themselves "the liberators", the group's members conspired to assassinate Caesar on the Ides of March, stabbing him 23 times until he died on the senate floor.

But rather than re-establish the republican system, all this did was unleash a brutal power struggle between two of Caesar's most prominent supporters: Mark Antony, his loyal confidant and general, and Octavian, Caesar's adopted son and self-styled successor.

What followed was an unprecedented disinformation war in which the combatants deployed poetry and rhetoric to assert the righteousness of the respective campaigns. From the outset, Octavian proved the shrewder propagandist, using short, sharp slogans written upon coins in the style of archaic tweets.

His theme was that Antony was a Roman soldier gone awry: a philanderer, a womaniser and a drunk not fit to lead, let alone hold office. Most importantly, he asserted Antony had been corrupted by his love affair with Cleopatra, the leader of a foreign land.

As Cleopatra's puppet, no one could be sure if Antony was truly loyal to Rome or if his allegiance was to Egypt, a nation that had long resisted Romanisation. Antony had spent too much time in the eastern empire and become overly enamoured of the idea of Hellenistic monarchy  anathema to the Roman republican mind, or so the propaganda went.

While Antony's plebeian roots and libidinous nature jarred with the image of the virtuous Roman statesman, there was no denying his natural charisma or flair for military leadership. Octavian knew his troops adored him precisely because of his appetite for luxury, drink and sexual excess. And in the provinces these traits had even helped to establish him as nothing less than a god.

To win the information war, Octavian would have to turn these strengths into weaknesses. Domestic discontent about the demise of traditional Roman values in the face of cultural contamination from the colonies was already brewing. Octavian knew that if he could convince the public he stood for everything Roman, virtuous and traditional  and that Antony represented everything foreign, barbarian and illiberal  he would be able to tap into an exceptionally powerful political mood.

Rome's republicans never fell for the rhetoric because they saw it for what it was: fake news. In the end, they sided with Octavian not because they trusted him more than Antony but because they viewed him as the lesser of two evils.

The power struggle between the men culminated in the Battle of Actium in 31BC, which Octavian won decisively. Yet, from the perspective of the Roman constitution, the battle had been waged unconstitutionally against a fellow citizen. Octavian understood that this could be used against him one day. A counter-narrative would have to be constructed.

Commenting on the war, the eminent ancient historian Ronald Syme, author of the classic 1939 book, The Roman Revolution, observed that "of the facts there is and was no authentic record". Octavian's official version of events decreed that "a degenerate Roman was striving to subvert the liberties of the Roman people to subjugate Italy and the west under the rule of an oriental queen".

Everyone knew the account was fraudulent but it was still enough to consolidate Octavian's rule and open the door to his reinvention as Augustus, the first emperor of Rome. Fake news had allowed Octavian to hack the republican system once and for all.
Link Posted: 10/13/2019 7:18:09 AM EST
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Portland Anti-Fascist Activist Killed In Hit And Run Outside Cider Riot

Portland Police say a prominent anti-fascist activist was killed early Saturday outside Cider Riot, a Northeast Portland club and a popular gathering spot for left-wing protestors.

Sean D. Kealiher, 23, was hit by an SUV a little after midnight. He had been at the club earlier in the evening. Friends drove him to the hospital, where he died.

Someone fired shots at the SUV after it hit Kealiher, and the vehicle crashed into the headquarters of the Oregon Democratic Party.

The hit and run is being investigated as a possible homicide, and police are asking anyone who has information on the incident to contact them. No arrests have been made so far.

Cider Riot, at Northeast 8th Avenue and Northeast Couch Street, was the site of a brawl earlier this year between far-right protesters and club patrons. Six men were indicted for rioting in the case, and the cidery owner has filed a $1 million lawsuit against the founder of the right-wing Patriot Prayer and several other men associated with the group, which has attracted white supremacists to its sometimes violent events.
Link Posted: 10/13/2019 7:27:57 AM EST
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Portland Anti-Fascist Activist Killed In Hit And Run Outside Cider Riot

Portland Police say a prominent anti-fascist activist was killed early Saturday outside Cider Riot, a Northeast Portland club and a popular gathering spot for left-wing protestors.

Sean D. Kealiher, 23, was hit by an SUV a little after midnight. He had been at the club earlier in the evening. Friends drove him to the hospital, where he died.

Someone fired shots at the SUV after it hit Kealiher, and the vehicle crashed into the headquarters of the Oregon Democratic Party.

The hit and run is being investigated as a possible homicide, and police are asking anyone who has information on the incident to contact them. No arrests have been made so far.

Cider Riot, at Northeast 8th Avenue and Northeast Couch Street, was the site of a brawl earlier this year between far-right protesters and club patrons. Six men were indicted for rioting in the case, and the cidery owner has filed a $1 million lawsuit against the founder of the right-wing Patriot Prayer and several other men associated with the group, which has attracted white supremacists to its sometimes violent events.
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Golly, now Kealiher is a good communist.
Link Posted: 10/13/2019 8:33:21 AM EST
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Someone fired shots at the SUV after it hit Kealiher, and the vehicle crashed into the headquarters of the Oregon Democratic Party.

The hit and run is being investigated as a possible homicide, and police are asking anyone who has information on the incident to contact them. No arrests have been made so far.
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But they are not investigating the shots fired at the SUV?

Oh. Portland.
Link Posted: 10/13/2019 9:40:29 AM EST
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But they are not investigating the shots fired at the SUV?

Oh. Portland.
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Someone fired shots at the SUV after it hit Kealiher, and the vehicle crashed into the headquarters of the Oregon Democratic Party.

The hit and run is being investigated as a possible homicide, and police are asking anyone who has information on the incident to contact them. No arrests have been made so far.
But they are not investigating the shots fired at the SUV?

Oh. Portland.
Maybe the ATF could investigate that instead of snooping some law abiding citizen for a change.
Link Posted: 10/13/2019 10:28:52 AM EST
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Portland Anti-Fascist Activist Killed In Hit And Run Outside Cider Riot

Portland Police say a prominent anti-fascist activist was killed early Saturday outside Cider Riot, a Northeast Portland club and a popular gathering spot for left-wing protestors.

Sean D. Kealiher, 23, was hit by an SUV a little after midnight. He had been at the club earlier in the evening. Friends drove him to the hospital, where he died.

Someone fired shots at the SUV after it hit Kealiher, and the vehicle crashed into the headquarters of the Oregon Democratic Party.

The hit and run is being investigated as a possible homicide, and police are asking anyone who has information on the incident to contact them. No arrests have been made so far.

Cider Riot, at Northeast 8th Avenue and Northeast Couch Street, was the site of a brawl earlier this year between far-right protesters and club patrons. Six men were indicted for rioting in the case, and the cidery owner has filed a $1 million lawsuit against the founder of the right-wing Patriot Prayer and several other men associated with the group, which has attracted white supremacists to its sometimes violent events.
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And it coincidentally crashed into the Republican headquarters?  Who writes this fan fiction?
Link Posted: 10/13/2019 10:33:36 AM EST
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Might read that again
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Swear that was a Mandela Effect moment.  Tommy is screwing with the timeline again.
Link Posted: 10/13/2019 11:30:33 AM EST
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Fake news to gain control has been going on for at least 2000 years.

https://www.ft.com/content/aaf2bb08-dca2-11e6-86ac-f253db7791c6

A long time ago, in a republic far away, a civil war broke out igniting a fake news crisis. It started when Julius Caesar appointed himself dictator for life in 44BC, a move that unnerved traditionalist republican factions which considered it an attack on Roman liberty. Led by Brutus and calling themselves "the liberators", the group's members conspired to assassinate Caesar on the Ides of March, stabbing him 23 times until he died on the senate floor.

But rather than re-establish the republican system, all this did was unleash a brutal power struggle between two of Caesar's most prominent supporters: Mark Antony, his loyal confidant and general, and Octavian, Caesar's adopted son and self-styled successor.

What followed was an unprecedented disinformation war in which the combatants deployed poetry and rhetoric to assert the righteousness of the respective campaigns. From the outset, Octavian proved the shrewder propagandist, using short, sharp slogans written upon coins in the style of archaic tweets.

His theme was that Antony was a Roman soldier gone awry: a philanderer, a womaniser and a drunk not fit to lead, let alone hold office. Most importantly, he asserted Antony had been corrupted by his love affair with Cleopatra, the leader of a foreign land.

As Cleopatra's puppet, no one could be sure if Antony was truly loyal to Rome or if his allegiance was to Egypt, a nation that had long resisted Romanisation. Antony had spent too much time in the eastern empire and become overly enamoured of the idea of Hellenistic monarchy  anathema to the Roman republican mind, or so the propaganda went.

While Antony's plebeian roots and libidinous nature jarred with the image of the virtuous Roman statesman, there was no denying his natural charisma or flair for military leadership. Octavian knew his troops adored him precisely because of his appetite for luxury, drink and sexual excess. And in the provinces these traits had even helped to establish him as nothing less than a god.

To win the information war, Octavian would have to turn these strengths into weaknesses. Domestic discontent about the demise of traditional Roman values in the face of cultural contamination from the colonies was already brewing. Octavian knew that if he could convince the public he stood for everything Roman, virtuous and traditional  and that Antony represented everything foreign, barbarian and illiberal  he would be able to tap into an exceptionally powerful political mood.

Rome's republicans never fell for the rhetoric because they saw it for what it was: fake news. In the end, they sided with Octavian not because they trusted him more than Antony but because they viewed him as the lesser of two evils.

The power struggle between the men culminated in the Battle of Actium in 31BC, which Octavian won decisively. Yet, from the perspective of the Roman constitution, the battle had been waged unconstitutionally against a fellow citizen. Octavian understood that this could be used against him one day. A counter-narrative would have to be constructed.

Commenting on the war, the eminent ancient historian Ronald Syme, author of the classic 1939 book, The Roman Revolution, observed that "of the facts there is and was no authentic record". Octavian's official version of events decreed that "a degenerate Roman was striving to subvert the liberties of the Roman people to subjugate Italy and the west under the rule of an oriental queen".

Everyone knew the account was fraudulent but it was still enough to consolidate Octavian's rule and open the door to his reinvention as Augustus, the first emperor of Rome. Fake news had allowed Octavian to hack the republican system once and for all.
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And then their country failed.
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Portland Anti-Fascist Activist Killed In Hit And Run Outside Cider Riot

Portland Police say a prominent anti-fascist activist was killed early Saturday outside Cider Riot, a Northeast Portland club and a popular gathering spot for left-wing protestors.

Sean D. Kealiher, 23, was hit by an SUV a little after midnight. He had been at the club earlier in the evening. Friends drove him to the hospital, where he died.

Someone fired shots at the SUV after it hit Kealiher, and the vehicle crashed into the headquarters of the Oregon Democratic Party.

The hit and run is being investigated as a possible homicide, and police are asking anyone who has information on the incident to contact them. No arrests have been made so far.

Cider Riot, at Northeast 8th Avenue and Northeast Couch Street, was the site of a brawl earlier this year between far-right protesters and club patrons. Six men were indicted for rioting in the case, and the cidery owner has filed a $1 million lawsuit against the founder of the right-wing Patriot Prayer and several other men associated with the group, which has attracted white supremacists to its sometimes violent events.
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Cool story bro.
Link Posted: 10/13/2019 11:46:17 AM EST
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Swear that was a Mandela Effect moment.  Tommy is screwing with the timeline again.
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Happens to the best of us brother
Link Posted: 10/13/2019 12:28:06 PM EST
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So what you're saying is that the Navy aviators (please note the correction) were told to draw a dick in the sky some months back?
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Obviously.  It was done to show solidarity for gay rights.  
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