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Posted: 6/10/2024 9:57:07 PM EDT
[#1]
I can be a climate refugee!
Pay Me! |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 10:21:11 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What did people do before HVAC was invented in 1902?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp4LuKGDNeoBuildings aren't built to not have AC anymore. It will take a while for new buildings to go back to the old ways. |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 10:28:37 PM EDT
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NO
This LEFT's obsession with DRIVING THE PRICE OF ENERGY UP is the problem. Energy = civilization One of government's main job is to encourage CHEAP energy |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 10:40:46 PM EDT
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Reporters are idiots:
"the average U.S. electric bill could hit $720 this summer — more than 50 percent higher than in 2014" Is that $720 per month? For a five month cooling season? As noted, what are average electricity rate for 2014 and today? |
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Posted: 6/11/2024 5:59:02 AM EDT
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Sweaty strippers
 I'll bring the battery powered fans. |
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Posted: 6/11/2024 6:07:57 AM EDT
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It couldn't be due to the fact that electricity costs have skyrocketed since the government pushed green energy production and cut reliable and efficient fossil fuel electricity production could it? Nahhhhhh.
Consumers energy in Michigan [and DE has something close to it I believe] has a 50% surcharge for electricity from 2pm until 7 pm for residential customers and the MPSC allowed them to do it so both the feds, state and the utilities are at fault and the electric per KW prices aren't cheap to begin with in the first place. I am VERY good at cooling my old house down at night, right now it's 57f inside. I'll close it up and it'll be MAYBE 64f when I get home from work. It'll be in the high 80's and 90's after tomorrow, as long as it drops at night, I can get by with very little A/C use and still be nice and cool. I'll use the A/C to pull humidity down more then temps on muggy mornings, then kill it during the day. |
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Posted: 6/11/2024 6:10:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Without AC mankind is well and truly lost You don’t deserve AC. Only the anointed Elites deserve AC. |
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Posted: 6/11/2024 6:15:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No the war on energy has made the shit expensive. Fucking POS leftists This. We are awash in Nat Gas and coal. Any energy shortage we have is directly attributable to Leftists and their psychotic desire for control. |
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Posted: 6/11/2024 6:27:20 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/11/2024 6:32:56 AM EDT
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It averages 90 degrees here every day and my electric bill is less than $45 a month for my large 2 bed, 2 bath condo.
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Posted: 6/11/2024 7:01:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Love to here how they are going to lower the temperatures. Nothing the USA can do will change a fucking thing. Guaranteed to save the planet dude. 
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Posted: 6/11/2024 7:05:50 AM EDT
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So Joe Biden is a relentless heat wave? That’s the logical conclusion.
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Posted: 6/11/2024 7:05:54 AM EDT
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Scientific American. LOL
It might as well rename itself "Woke American."  Michael Shermer: How Scientific American Got Woke |
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Posted: 6/11/2024 7:09:50 AM EDT
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Temps here have yet to reach the 90s this year, looks like it might get there this week. The temp was in the upper 70s last weekend when I was at the range. Very comfortable outside.
 Attached FileIt has been kinda cool in my house at night, down to the 50s last night. My AC is not even running at home except rarely during the day. Just got my electric bill and it is $64.99 this month, down about $4.00 from last month. To me it's as if this article is written about a different world. Climate Crisis my ass. |
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Posted: 6/11/2024 7:20:23 AM EDT
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Coolest spring/summer in recent memory here in SC so far
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Posted: 6/11/2024 7:28:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Reporters are idiots: "the average U.S. electric bill could hit $720 this summer — more than 50 percent higher than in 2014" Is that $720 per month? For a five month cooling season? As noted, what are average electricity rate for 2014 and today? If it is for the three month season, mine will be about that. Just terrible and unclear writing from the AI/Author. |
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Posted: 6/11/2024 7:29:07 AM EDT
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gee, it wouldn't be because of high inflation and expensive "green" energy.
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Posted: 6/11/2024 7:35:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My house is all electric and I live in satan's taint for summer heat.. My bill isn't anywhere near half of $720 a month. That number sounds made up. I'm in FL cooling a 2700sqft house with a single 5 ton unit (def not the most efficient design for this house, but that's another story) and I may hit $200/mn for electric in the worst month. We haven't even hit $100/mn this year yet. |
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Posted: 6/11/2024 7:42:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In principle I agree, but this is America in the year of our Lord 2024. Somehow congress will bail out people who make 200k but can't afford to cool their 8700 square foot bungalow. I mean think of the children for God's sake! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Maybe if everyone wasn't in a race to see who can cool the biggest McMansion, their bills wouldn't be so high. Fuck em. Fuck that this is America. In principle I agree, but this is America in the year of our Lord 2024. Somehow congress will bail out people who make 200k but can't afford to cool their 8700 square foot bungalow. I mean think of the children for God's sake! Gov't ain't doing shit for people that make $200k, except shaking them down a bit harder to enrich their own family, friends and voter base of leeches. 
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Posted: 6/11/2024 7:43:27 AM EDT
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How many electric cars and devices did we have in 2014?
What were the average KWHR rates in 2914. I recently replaced a 20 year old water heater. I looked at the kilowatts per hour estimate and it was 1/3 of what it is today. Scientific American is not being very scientific. They aren’t adjusting for inflation. And what is this $720 represent? Is that for six months? |
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Posted: 6/11/2024 7:48:36 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/11/2024 7:49:21 AM EDT
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It is the plan
 President Obama: Cap-And-Trade=Energy Prices Necessarily Skyrocketing?!? |
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Posted: 6/11/2024 7:52:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You don't deserve AC. Only the anointed Elites deserve AC. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Without AC mankind is well and truly lost You don't deserve AC. Only the anointed Elites deserve AC. That's the real world truth, period. Those demeaning AC, jets, cars, big houses, immense wealth, travel, luxury dining, etc. aren't going to give any of that up, they just don't want you to have any of that. 
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Posted: 6/11/2024 7:55:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You don’t deserve AC. Only the anointed Elites deserve AC. Hunger Games. Woop Woop. |
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Posted: 6/11/2024 7:57:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Coolest spring/summer in recent memory here in SC so far I had my doors & windows open with a low of 61 last night. 97 coming this weekend tho. |
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Posted: 6/11/2024 8:13:59 AM EDT
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The only solution is to tax hot weather.
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Posted: 6/11/2024 8:22:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In principle I agree, but this is America in the year of our Lord 2024. Somehow congress will bail out people who make 200k but can't afford to cool their 8700 square foot bungalow. I mean think of the children for God's sake! Bailout? Have you any idea the taxes I pay? I don't even qualify for some child credits because I make too much anymore. There is no middle class bailout. The middle class is being systemically destroyed deliberately. |
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Posted: 6/11/2024 8:30:23 AM EDT
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I'm in fl in a small old poorly insulated house. My bill last month was 210.00 and usually 300ish in july-august.
I bet most of my mcmansion neighbors are well over the 500 a month mark |
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Posted: 6/11/2024 8:32:20 AM EDT
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I remember living south of Richmond, VA in the mid 60's. No AC in that house or our car.
We had one AC unit in a window of the house we lived in at Aiken, SC in early 70's. Living room and kitchen/dining room probably stayed fairly cool. Had AC in Arkansas in the early 70's and TX in mid 70's. Never had it any of dad's cars/trucks. No AC in the barracks at Ft. Myer in the mid to late 70's. How did we survive? |
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Posted: 6/11/2024 8:50:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: NO This LEFT's obsession with DRIVING THE PRICE OF ENERGY UP is the problem. Energy = civilization One of government's main job is to encourage CHEAP energy But those of us that get solar on our homes so we don't have to participate in that stupidity get sneered at by 87% of GD. Go figure. Guess there are more lefties here than we though. |
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Posted: 6/11/2024 9:01:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe if people owned an EV they would save enough on fuel costs to pay for A/C Or just lowered their carbon footprint to bring the temperature down in their house. |
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Posted: 6/11/2024 9:03:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I drive around with my windows down and AC all the way up to help out those in need. I’m doing my part. I went through law school in Oxford, Mississippi for two and a half years without an air conditioner. It was tough for a month, and then my wife and I got used to it. By the time we left, I almost couldn't sleep in an air conditioned room. |
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Posted: 6/11/2024 9:03:57 AM EDT
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Lol, do they say the we have to use less air conditioning to stop the climate change that requires more air conditioning?
Or is it just that poor people have to be uncomfortable for rich people to be comfortable? Because that's been true for all of human history. |
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Posted: 6/11/2024 9:06:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: $720 for an average summer bill seems ridiculous. Ours is usually about a tenth of that in the summer, but we only cool our bedroom. |
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Posted: 6/11/2024 9:10:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe if people owned an EV they would save enough on fuel costs to pay for A/C  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/11/2024 9:12:43 AM EDT
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We didn't have it Granny's house EVER. You just hardenened up and got used to it. No internet and only one crappy TV channel with rabbit ears, so you went out into the world and learned something, say fishing, trapping, and lots and lots of foraging (pecans, blackberries, plums, apples, peaches, pears). Oh, and for something extra spicy, find your way down to the creek to cool off, and after devising a cool rope swing, let all of the 'coons out of your uncle's traps, lol. Listening to him moan about the lack of caught critters despite tracks all over the place and keeping a straight face was difficult. It's all fun and games until your cousin lets that leak.
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Posted: 6/11/2024 9:14:07 AM EDT
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"Relentless heat waves", yeah, the only people who believe that are people who didn't live through the 80s.
People who can't afford A/C is because the costs of A/C and the electricity to power it have both increased, not because the temperature has increased. |
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Posted: 6/11/2024 9:27:40 AM EDT
[#38]
How about lowering energy costs?
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Posted: 6/11/2024 9:31:23 AM EDT
[#39]
climate fags never care about my heating costs in winter. cold will kill you faster than heat.
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Posted: 6/11/2024 9:42:45 AM EDT
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I'd love to know where these longer summers are because they sure as fuck ain't here. I used to put my boat on the water for the first time in April, haven't been able to do that till May for the last several years.
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Posted: 6/11/2024 9:57:05 AM EDT
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The nice thing about home solar is I keep my home as cold as I want all summer without paying extra. Long summer hours mean I have excess production all summer and not enough batteries to store it. So use it or lose it on most days.
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Posted: 6/11/2024 10:05:31 AM EDT
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The taxpayers are going to pay the bills for the poors, like always. Or, your share will be tacked onto your bill.
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Posted: 6/11/2024 7:42:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bailout? Have you any idea the taxes I pay? I don't even qualify for some child credits because I make too much anymore. There is no middle class bailout. The middle class is being systemically destroyed deliberately. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: In principle I agree, but this is America in the year of our Lord 2024. Somehow congress will bail out people who make 200k but can't afford to cool their 8700 square foot bungalow. I mean think of the children for God's sake! Bailout? Have you any idea the taxes I pay? I don't even qualify for some child credits because I make too much anymore. There is no middle class bailout. The middle class is being systemically destroyed deliberately. The PPP “loans” given out to people in my area who have side hustles were pretty incredible. Free money. Shitloads of it. You should look up the lists. It’s frickin crazy. |
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Posted: 6/11/2024 8:05:31 PM EDT
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Aaaaannndddddddddd............... The actual cost of HVAC units is about to go up 30% or so next year b/c of the new refrigerants they have to use, according to the youtube hvac guys I watched about it. I really hate these people.
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Posted: 6/11/2024 8:08:06 PM EDT
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Maybe if Biden's puppet masters had not closed 5 power plants in Ohio my electric bill may not have tripled.
FJB FTF |
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Posted: 6/11/2024 8:10:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The PPP “loans” given out to people in my area who have side hustles were pretty incredible. Free money. Shitloads of it. You should look up the lists. It’s frickin crazy. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: In principle I agree, but this is America in the year of our Lord 2024. Somehow congress will bail out people who make 200k but can't afford to cool their 8700 square foot bungalow. I mean think of the children for God's sake! Bailout? Have you any idea the taxes I pay? I don't even qualify for some child credits because I make too much anymore. There is no middle class bailout. The middle class is being systemically destroyed deliberately. The PPP “loans” given out to people in my area who have side hustles were pretty incredible. Free money. Shitloads of it. You should look up the lists. It’s frickin crazy. PPP=Poor People Payoffs. |
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Posted: 6/11/2024 8:56:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: climate fags never care about my heating costs in winter. cold will kill you faster than heat. Came here to post something like this. It costs more to warm your house by 50° in the winter vs cooling it by 20° in the summer. |
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Posted: 6/11/2024 9:02:35 PM EDT
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They will make up for it during the winter time when it doesn't get as cold...
if it's not rate related. |
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Posted: 6/11/2024 9:03:40 PM EDT
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That doesn't stop the ghetto dwellers here. They just buy a window unit or two.
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Posted: 6/11/2024 9:07:17 PM EDT
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And why is AC so expensive? New mandates from the party of green on AC units? High priced electricity? Bidenflation? Blame the dems for all this shit.
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