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Posted: 2/27/2023 10:07:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's funny to me how white people who haven't lived around large black populations tend to have different opinions than those of us who have. I grew up in majority black areas, I went to majority black schools, I worked a few manual labor/construction jobs with majority black coworkers, etc. I've been in numerous fights with blacks that I didn't start, I've been jumped by blacks multiple times, I've had numerous blacks beg for money and get very aggressive when I said no, I've had a black coworker slash my tires, I've had my car broken into no less than six times, I've had valuables I made the mistake of leaving unattended for a few minutes get snatched up (like my fucking toolbox), I've had to deal with routine riots in my area every time a black criminal gets killed, etc. This isn't even getting into the casual ethno-centrism that's normal among blacks. If they get into a position of power, 9/10 they'll demonstrate an obvious degree of racial nepotism. If there's a disagreement, they'll almost always pick sides on the basis of race, regardless of who's actually right or wrong. If you get into a disagreement with them that goes on long enough, it'll inevitably devolve into you getting called racist. If you're a white guy and you don't automatically bend over to them, they respond with rage and confusion. This isn't a problem that's going to be fixed. The best solution is to just not live around large black populations. Only those who have touched a lit stove know how hot it is. |
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Posted: 2/27/2023 10:24:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have nothing to add to this conversation other than my own naivety. I went into the Army 3 days after HS, as a young isolated farm kid. I had literally never spoke to a black person. Almost immediately, I was surrounded by other young recruits, about 25% of them black. Although I wasn't "best friends" with all of them, during my time in the Army I had many black friends, a few that remain close 40 years later. I NEVER had a racial issue with any of them. Imagine my fucking SHOCK when I got out of the Army and slowly realized that blacks were as racist as we (whites) had been accused of. I have noticed that rural blacks are completely different than city blacks. Just recently I drove from Florida to Michigan and back. It was like a social experiment. Rural blacks at a gas station in southern Georgia acted COMPLETELY different than the ones I met in Atlanta. The folks I met in rural Georgia were just regular folks. I helped one guy back his trailer, chatted with his wife....we were just normal people communicating. In Atlanta, I was asked for money by a guy who was trying REALLY hard to be scary (LOL). The hotel clerks and people in the restaurant were kinda off....like fake-polite/schemers. Any time we were in a crowd, the vibe was threatening. The glares and stares were odd. I hated it. I have tried all of my life to consciously NOT be a racist.....having been raised by Archie Bunker type bigots. I have always HEARD that blacks are racist, but experiencing it was kinda disappointing. Back to the woods for me....you folks can have the fucking city. Be careful, you are coming dangerously close to interjecting unwanted nuance into this thread. |
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Posted: 2/27/2023 11:06:30 AM EDT
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Double tap.
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Posted: 2/27/2023 11:07:07 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: I have nothing to add to this conversation other than my own naivety. I went into the Army 3 days after HS, as a young isolated farm kid. I had literally never spoke to a black person. Almost immediately, I was surrounded by other young recruits, about 25% of them black. Although I wasn't "best friends" with all of them, during my time in the Army I had many black friends, a few that remain close 40 years later. I NEVER had a racial issue with any of them. Imagine my fucking SHOCK when I got out of the Army and slowly realized that blacks were as racist as we (whites) had been accused of. I have noticed that rural blacks are completely different than city blacks. Just recently I drove from Florida to Michigan and back. It was like a social experiment. Rural blacks at a gas station in southern Georgia acted COMPLETELY different than the ones I met in Atlanta. The folks I met in rural Georgia were just regular folks. I helped one guy back his trailer, chatted with his wife....we were just normal people communicating. In Atlanta, I was asked for money by a guy who was trying REALLY hard to be scary (LOL). The hotel clerks and people in the restaurant were kinda off....like fake-polite/schemers. Any time we were in a crowd, the vibe was threatening. The glares and stares were odd. I hated it. I have tried all of my life to consciously NOT be a racist.....having been raised by Archie Bunker type bigots. I have always HEARD that blacks are racist, but experiencing it was kinda disappointing. Back to the woods for me....you folks can have the fucking city. |
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Posted: 2/27/2023 11:51:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why, because his post, as others, suggests that black racism seems to go hand in hand with social dominance? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I have nothing to add to this conversation other than my own naivety. I went into the Army 3 days after HS, as a young isolated farm kid. I had literally never spoke to a black person. Almost immediately, I was surrounded by other young recruits, about 25% of them black. Although I wasn't "best friends" with all of them, during my time in the Army I had many black friends, a few that remain close 40 years later. I NEVER had a racial issue with any of them. Imagine my fucking SHOCK when I got out of the Army and slowly realized that blacks were as racist as we (whites) had been accused of. I have noticed that rural blacks are completely different than city blacks. Just recently I drove from Florida to Michigan and back. It was like a social experiment. Rural blacks at a gas station in southern Georgia acted COMPLETELY different than the ones I met in Atlanta. The folks I met in rural Georgia were just regular folks. I helped one guy back his trailer, chatted with his wife....we were just normal people communicating. In Atlanta, I was asked for money by a guy who was trying REALLY hard to be scary (LOL). The hotel clerks and people in the restaurant were kinda off....like fake-polite/schemers. Any time we were in a crowd, the vibe was threatening. The glares and stares were odd. I hated it. I have tried all of my life to consciously NOT be a racist.....having been raised by Archie Bunker type bigots. I have always HEARD that blacks are racist, but experiencing it was kinda disappointing. Back to the woods for me....you folks can have the fucking city. When you start comparing city vs rural, things get complicated by the question of whether it is a racial issue, a city vs rural issue, or a mix of the two. People are probably most familiar with the "y'all ain't from around here, are ya?" aspect of city vs rural, but it can be bad from either side. Couple decades or so ago, a couple moved out here from the city, bought a nice house that wasn't too old, and the wife decided she should go around and introduce herself. After introducing herself to my mother, my mother brought her over to my house (a married woman going alone to a recently divorced man's house doesn't sit well with older sensibilities). Within a couple minutes of meeting me, she muttered something about third world poverty, then decided she needed to 'adopt' me, similar to how those late night charity commercials talk about how for X amount of money per day, you can 'adopt' a child in a poor country and make sure they have clean water and food to eat. I was a bit confused, because this was so outside the norm that I was having trouble fully grasping that this woman was equating me to someone living in a mud hut. My mother, on the other hand, understood what was happening fairly quickly, and that incident stands out in memory as one of the top 10 times I saw my mother pissed off. From what I could gather, the woman had zero understanding of her behavior being insulting in any way (she was being noble and showing concern for the less fortunate). Nothing racial involved. Just an astounding lack of understanding of people that are outside of her (apparently very limited) past experience. |
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Posted: 2/27/2023 12:18:35 PM EDT
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https://www.reuters.com/world/us/elon-musk-accuses-media-racism-after-newspapers-drop-dilbert-cartoon-2023-02-26/
In replies to tweets about the controversy, the Tesla (TSLA.O) and Twitter chief executive said the media had long been racist against non-white people but are now "racist against whites & Asians." "Maybe they can try not being racist," Musk tweeted. |
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Posted: 2/27/2023 12:37:35 PM EDT
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I have a caucasian friend who emigrated to the USA from South Africa where he was born. He is now a US citizen. However, whenever asked to write down his race, he puts "African-american", and unlike many people who were born in the USA, he has the birth certificate and his old South African passport to prove he was born in Africa.
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Posted: 2/27/2023 2:02:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Believe it or not the most racist people I have ever met in my life are not white. Not even close. Ill leave it at that. Absolutely, spend anytime and have a deep conversation/ or hear part of a conversation. Same group has strong opinions on Asian/Asian-Americans as well. |
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Posted: 2/27/2023 2:47:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You should pay attention to what he says rather than what other people say about what he says. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: He was a jab supporter and has been getting shit, so he is probably compensating. You should pay attention to what he says rather than what other people say about what he says. Scott's own posts were very pro-vaccine. He's a really smart guy, and I have a hard time believing him when he now says he was taken out of context. I guess he was "taken out of context" when he said he was going to sue Ben Garrison. I imagine cooler heads talked him out of that one. I unfollowed him on Twitter partially because he wouldn't stop with the revisionist history, but mostly because he wouldn't stop shitting on the anti-c19-vax crowd and saying they "just got lucky". (Which is a bit of double-think in action: "I was never for the vaccine, but everyone else not for the vaccine did so for bad reasons".) |
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Posted: 2/27/2023 2:49:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Asians generally don’t like anyone not their own specific brand of Asian or white. Have never been able to understand why, but that’s how it seems. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Believe it or not the most racist people I have ever met in my life are not white. Not even close. Ill leave it at that. You haven’t met a racist until you have dated a black girl. The mother is the worst, followed by all the young bucks at movie theaters who get pissed at you for stealing a good block woman…. Mind you, it’s ok for them to knock up PAWGs but don’t you dare take one of theirs…. As a white guy I feel somewhat lucky that a few Asian friends I got closer with gave me a glimpse into their household and mindset when growing up. They do get a surprising amount of random shit comments from both white and black people while minding their own business, but one buddy of mine grew up in a house with a first generation Chinese father who basically called everyone who wasn't Asian, either a "Black Devil" or a "White Devil". The other surprising thing to me as a white guy was how much racism there is among Asians for other Asians. A Korean friend of mine went to work in Taiwan for a while, and everyone at the hotel he was staying at assumed he was just there to do janitorial/menial labor level work- no way a Korean would be there as an engineer doing complex equipment modifications. That was for Asian races higher in the food chain. Asians generally don’t like anyone not their own specific brand of Asian or white. Have never been able to understand why, but that’s how it seems. That is true for literally everyone. There is no unified "people of color" just as there is no unified "white race". |
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Posted: 2/27/2023 2:50:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Scott's own posts were very pro-vaccine. He's a really smart guy, and I have a hard time believing him when he now says he was taken out of context. I guess he was "taken out of context" when he said he was going to sue Ben Garrison. I imagine cooler heads talked him out of that one. I unfollowed him on Twitter partially because he wouldn't stop with the revisionist history, but mostly because he wouldn't stop shitting on the anti-c19-vax crowd and saying they "just got lucky". (Which is a bit of double-think in action: "I was never for the vaccine, but everyone else not for the vaccine did so for bad reasons".) Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: He was a jab supporter and has been getting shit, so he is probably compensating. You should pay attention to what he says rather than what other people say about what he says. Scott's own posts were very pro-vaccine. He's a really smart guy, and I have a hard time believing him when he now says he was taken out of context. I guess he was "taken out of context" when he said he was going to sue Ben Garrison. I imagine cooler heads talked him out of that one. I unfollowed him on Twitter partially because he wouldn't stop with the revisionist history, but mostly because he wouldn't stop shitting on the anti-c19-vax crowd and saying they "just got lucky". (Which is a bit of double-think in action: "I was never for the vaccine, but everyone else not for the vaccine did so for bad reasons".) Again, you should listen to what he actually says rather than listening to the outrage porn about what other people attribute to him. |
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Posted: 2/27/2023 2:50:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That is true for literally everyone. There is no unified "people of color" just as there is no unified "white race". Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Believe it or not the most racist people I have ever met in my life are not white. Not even close. Ill leave it at that. You haven’t met a racist until you have dated a black girl. The mother is the worst, followed by all the young bucks at movie theaters who get pissed at you for stealing a good block woman…. Mind you, it’s ok for them to knock up PAWGs but don’t you dare take one of theirs…. As a white guy I feel somewhat lucky that a few Asian friends I got closer with gave me a glimpse into their household and mindset when growing up. They do get a surprising amount of random shit comments from both white and black people while minding their own business, but one buddy of mine grew up in a house with a first generation Chinese father who basically called everyone who wasn't Asian, either a "Black Devil" or a "White Devil". The other surprising thing to me as a white guy was how much racism there is among Asians for other Asians. A Korean friend of mine went to work in Taiwan for a while, and everyone at the hotel he was staying at assumed he was just there to do janitorial/menial labor level work- no way a Korean would be there as an engineer doing complex equipment modifications. That was for Asian races higher in the food chain. Asians generally don’t like anyone not their own specific brand of Asian or white. Have never been able to understand why, but that’s how it seems. That is true for literally everyone. There is no unified "people of color" just as there is no unified "white race". No, it isn’t. But if you’ve never been there it might be hard to understand. It’s different. |
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Posted: 2/27/2023 3:00:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Again, you should listen to what he actually says rather than listening to the outrage porn about what other people attribute to him. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: He was a jab supporter and has been getting shit, so he is probably compensating. You should pay attention to what he says rather than what other people say about what he says. Scott's own posts were very pro-vaccine. He's a really smart guy, and I have a hard time believing him when he now says he was taken out of context. I guess he was "taken out of context" when he said he was going to sue Ben Garrison. I imagine cooler heads talked him out of that one. I unfollowed him on Twitter partially because he wouldn't stop with the revisionist history, but mostly because he wouldn't stop shitting on the anti-c19-vax crowd and saying they "just got lucky". (Which is a bit of double-think in action: "I was never for the vaccine, but everyone else not for the vaccine did so for bad reasons".) Again, you should listen to what he actually says rather than listening to the outrage porn about what other people attribute to him. I don't frequent 4chan, so when Scott told Hotep "it was a 4chan hoax" I just rolled my eyes. I followed Scott on Twitter for years. I didn't archive his posts, I didn't memorize them, but Ben Garrison's critique rang as spot-on, and that it twisted Scott's panties so much just lends more credence to it.
Scott's own words:  
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Posted: 2/27/2023 3:04:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Again, you should listen to what he actually says rather than listening to the outrage porn about what other people attribute to him. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: He was a jab supporter and has been getting shit, so he is probably compensating. You should pay attention to what he says rather than what other people say about what he says. Scott's own posts were very pro-vaccine. He's a really smart guy, and I have a hard time believing him when he now says he was taken out of context. I guess he was "taken out of context" when he said he was going to sue Ben Garrison. I imagine cooler heads talked him out of that one. I unfollowed him on Twitter partially because he wouldn't stop with the revisionist history, but mostly because he wouldn't stop shitting on the anti-c19-vax crowd and saying they "just got lucky". (Which is a bit of double-think in action: "I was never for the vaccine, but everyone else not for the vaccine did so for bad reasons".) Again, you should listen to what he actually says rather than listening to the outrage porn about what other people attribute to him.  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/27/2023 3:08:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I unfollowed him on Twitter partially because he wouldn't stop with the revisionist history, but mostly because he wouldn't stop shitting on the anti-c19-vax crowd and saying they "just got lucky". (Which is a bit of double-think in action: "I was never for the vaccine, but everyone else not for the vaccine did so for bad reasons".) |
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Posted: 2/27/2023 3:10:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No, it isn’t. But if you’ve never been there it might be hard to understand. It’s different. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Believe it or not the most racist people I have ever met in my life are not white. Not even close. Ill leave it at that. You haven’t met a racist until you have dated a black girl. The mother is the worst, followed by all the young bucks at movie theaters who get pissed at you for stealing a good block woman…. Mind you, it’s ok for them to knock up PAWGs but don’t you dare take one of theirs…. As a white guy I feel somewhat lucky that a few Asian friends I got closer with gave me a glimpse into their household and mindset when growing up. They do get a surprising amount of random shit comments from both white and black people while minding their own business, but one buddy of mine grew up in a house with a first generation Chinese father who basically called everyone who wasn't Asian, either a "Black Devil" or a "White Devil". The other surprising thing to me as a white guy was how much racism there is among Asians for other Asians. A Korean friend of mine went to work in Taiwan for a while, and everyone at the hotel he was staying at assumed he was just there to do janitorial/menial labor level work- no way a Korean would be there as an engineer doing complex equipment modifications. That was for Asian races higher in the food chain. Asians generally don’t like anyone not their own specific brand of Asian or white. Have never been able to understand why, but that’s how it seems. That is true for literally everyone. There is no unified "people of color" just as there is no unified "white race". No, it isn’t. But if you’ve never been there it might be hard to understand. It’s different. I've seen Puerto Ricans and Dominicans fight like street gangs, but that’s OK I'll let you gatekeep intra-ethnic hatred for whatever reason you want to. |
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Posted: 2/27/2023 3:11:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've seen Puerto Ricans and Dominicans fight like street gangs, but that’s OK I'll let you gatekeep intra-ethnic hatred for whatever reason you want to. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Believe it or not the most racist people I have ever met in my life are not white. Not even close. Ill leave it at that. You haven’t met a racist until you have dated a black girl. The mother is the worst, followed by all the young bucks at movie theaters who get pissed at you for stealing a good block woman…. Mind you, it’s ok for them to knock up PAWGs but don’t you dare take one of theirs…. As a white guy I feel somewhat lucky that a few Asian friends I got closer with gave me a glimpse into their household and mindset when growing up. They do get a surprising amount of random shit comments from both white and black people while minding their own business, but one buddy of mine grew up in a house with a first generation Chinese father who basically called everyone who wasn't Asian, either a "Black Devil" or a "White Devil". The other surprising thing to me as a white guy was how much racism there is among Asians for other Asians. A Korean friend of mine went to work in Taiwan for a while, and everyone at the hotel he was staying at assumed he was just there to do janitorial/menial labor level work- no way a Korean would be there as an engineer doing complex equipment modifications. That was for Asian races higher in the food chain. Asians generally don’t like anyone not their own specific brand of Asian or white. Have never been able to understand why, but that’s how it seems. That is true for literally everyone. There is no unified "people of color" just as there is no unified "white race". No, it isn’t. But if you’ve never been there it might be hard to understand. It’s different. I've seen Puerto Ricans and Dominicans fight like street gangs, but that’s OK I'll let you gatekeep intra-ethnic hatred for whatever reason you want to. And the fact you think that has anything to do with what I said just reinforces that you have no idea what we are talking about. |
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Posted: 2/27/2023 3:13:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't frequent 4chan, so when Scott told Hotep "it was a 4chan hoax" I just rolled my eyes. I followed Scott on Twitter for years. I didn't archive his posts, I didn't memorize them, but Ben Garrison's critique rang as spot-on, and that it twisted Scott's panties so much just lends more credence to it.
Scott's own words: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/109532/FmHsjfJWIAA6Gkn-2727556.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/109532/FmHsjfHXkAQCrP3-2727557.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: He was a jab supporter and has been getting shit, so he is probably compensating. You should pay attention to what he says rather than what other people say about what he says. Scott's own posts were very pro-vaccine. He's a really smart guy, and I have a hard time believing him when he now says he was taken out of context. I guess he was "taken out of context" when he said he was going to sue Ben Garrison. I imagine cooler heads talked him out of that one. I unfollowed him on Twitter partially because he wouldn't stop with the revisionist history, but mostly because he wouldn't stop shitting on the anti-c19-vax crowd and saying they "just got lucky". (Which is a bit of double-think in action: "I was never for the vaccine, but everyone else not for the vaccine did so for bad reasons".) Again, you should listen to what he actually says rather than listening to the outrage porn about what other people attribute to him. I don't frequent 4chan, so when Scott told Hotep "it was a 4chan hoax" I just rolled my eyes. I followed Scott on Twitter for years. I didn't archive his posts, I didn't memorize them, but Ben Garrison's critique rang as spot-on, and that it twisted Scott's panties so much just lends more credence to it.
Scott's own words: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/109532/FmHsjfJWIAA6Gkn-2727556.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/109532/FmHsjfHXkAQCrP3-2727557.jpg That doesn’t back up what you said. You all have this “if you don’t condemn the entire medical establishment you’re a commie vaccine forcer” mentality that simply isn’t true. |
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Posted: 2/27/2023 3:13:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And the fact you think that has anything to do with what I said just reinforces that you have no idea what we are talking about. OK |
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Posted: 2/27/2023 3:22:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That doesn’t back up what you said. You all have this “if you don’t condemn the entire medical establishment you’re a commie vaccine forcer” mentality that simply isn’t true. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: He was a jab supporter and has been getting shit, so he is probably compensating. You should pay attention to what he says rather than what other people say about what he says. Scott's own posts were very pro-vaccine. He's a really smart guy, and I have a hard time believing him when he now says he was taken out of context. I guess he was "taken out of context" when he said he was going to sue Ben Garrison. I imagine cooler heads talked him out of that one. I unfollowed him on Twitter partially because he wouldn't stop with the revisionist history, but mostly because he wouldn't stop shitting on the anti-c19-vax crowd and saying they "just got lucky". (Which is a bit of double-think in action: "I was never for the vaccine, but everyone else not for the vaccine did so for bad reasons".) Again, you should listen to what he actually says rather than listening to the outrage porn about what other people attribute to him. I don't frequent 4chan, so when Scott told Hotep "it was a 4chan hoax" I just rolled my eyes. I followed Scott on Twitter for years. I didn't archive his posts, I didn't memorize them, but Ben Garrison's critique rang as spot-on, and that it twisted Scott's panties so much just lends more credence to it.
Scott's own words: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/109532/FmHsjfJWIAA6Gkn-2727556.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/109532/FmHsjfHXkAQCrP3-2727557.jpg That doesn’t back up what you said. You all have this “if you don’t condemn the entire medical establishment you’re a commie vaccine forcer” mentality that simply isn’t true. What? Scott Tweeted, in his own words and presumably of his personal volition, "The unvaccinated are in the middle of a pandemic; for the vaccinated it's another Tuesday" (WTTE, S. Adams, 2021). That sounds pretty damn pro-vaccine. Forgive me if I think his "I was only joking" line insincere. ... and I DGAF about his stance, past or or present, but his constant harping on it (and shitting on others) grew very tiresome. My man is wicked smart, without a doubt; somehow he is ignorant of the Streisand Effect. ETA The fact that he had to write a fucking essay to defend himself instead of just pointing out his past words doesn't do his current argument any favors. |
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Posted: 2/27/2023 3:26:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What? Scott Tweeted, in his own words and presumably of his personal volition, "The unvaccinated are in the middle of a pandemic; for the vaccinated it's another Tuesday" (WTTE, S. Adams, 2021). That sounds pretty damn pro-vaccine. Forgive me if I think his "I was only joking" line insincere. ... and I DGAF about his stance, past or or present, but his constant harping on it (and shitting on others) grew very tiresome. My man is wicked smart, without a doubt; somehow he is ignorant of the Streisand Effect. ETA The fact that he had to write a fucking essay to defend himself instead of just pointing out his past words doesn't do his current argument any favors. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: He was a jab supporter and has been getting shit, so he is probably compensating. You should pay attention to what he says rather than what other people say about what he says. Scott's own posts were very pro-vaccine. He's a really smart guy, and I have a hard time believing him when he now says he was taken out of context. I guess he was "taken out of context" when he said he was going to sue Ben Garrison. I imagine cooler heads talked him out of that one. I unfollowed him on Twitter partially because he wouldn't stop with the revisionist history, but mostly because he wouldn't stop shitting on the anti-c19-vax crowd and saying they "just got lucky". (Which is a bit of double-think in action: "I was never for the vaccine, but everyone else not for the vaccine did so for bad reasons".) Again, you should listen to what he actually says rather than listening to the outrage porn about what other people attribute to him. I don't frequent 4chan, so when Scott told Hotep "it was a 4chan hoax" I just rolled my eyes. I followed Scott on Twitter for years. I didn't archive his posts, I didn't memorize them, but Ben Garrison's critique rang as spot-on, and that it twisted Scott's panties so much just lends more credence to it.
Scott's own words: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/109532/FmHsjfJWIAA6Gkn-2727556.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/109532/FmHsjfHXkAQCrP3-2727557.jpg That doesn’t back up what you said. You all have this “if you don’t condemn the entire medical establishment you’re a commie vaccine forcer” mentality that simply isn’t true. What? Scott Tweeted, in his own words and presumably of his personal volition, "The unvaccinated are in the middle of a pandemic; for the vaccinated it's another Tuesday" (WTTE, S. Adams, 2021). That sounds pretty damn pro-vaccine. Forgive me if I think his "I was only joking" line insincere. ... and I DGAF about his stance, past or or present, but his constant harping on it (and shitting on others) grew very tiresome. My man is wicked smart, without a doubt; somehow he is ignorant of the Streisand Effect. ETA The fact that he had to write a fucking essay to defend himself instead of just pointing out his past words doesn't do his current argument any favors. I watched him say the things he said, and you are, as most left and right wing outrage porn purveyors do, mischaracterizing it either purposely or due to ignorance. He makes fun of both groups incessantly. |
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Posted: 2/27/2023 3:33:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I watched him say the things he said, and you are, as most left and right wing outrage porn purveyors do, mischaracterizing it either purposely or due to ignorance. He makes fun of both groups incessantly. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: He was a jab supporter and has been getting shit, so he is probably compensating. You should pay attention to what he says rather than what other people say about what he says. Scott's own posts were very pro-vaccine. He's a really smart guy, and I have a hard time believing him when he now says he was taken out of context. I guess he was "taken out of context" when he said he was going to sue Ben Garrison. I imagine cooler heads talked him out of that one. I unfollowed him on Twitter partially because he wouldn't stop with the revisionist history, but mostly because he wouldn't stop shitting on the anti-c19-vax crowd and saying they "just got lucky". (Which is a bit of double-think in action: "I was never for the vaccine, but everyone else not for the vaccine did so for bad reasons".) Again, you should listen to what he actually says rather than listening to the outrage porn about what other people attribute to him. I don't frequent 4chan, so when Scott told Hotep "it was a 4chan hoax" I just rolled my eyes. I followed Scott on Twitter for years. I didn't archive his posts, I didn't memorize them, but Ben Garrison's critique rang as spot-on, and that it twisted Scott's panties so much just lends more credence to it.
Scott's own words: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/109532/FmHsjfJWIAA6Gkn-2727556.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/109532/FmHsjfHXkAQCrP3-2727557.jpg That doesn’t back up what you said. You all have this “if you don’t condemn the entire medical establishment you’re a commie vaccine forcer” mentality that simply isn’t true. What? Scott Tweeted, in his own words and presumably of his personal volition, "The unvaccinated are in the middle of a pandemic; for the vaccinated it's another Tuesday" (WTTE, S. Adams, 2021). That sounds pretty damn pro-vaccine. Forgive me if I think his "I was only joking" line insincere. ... and I DGAF about his stance, past or or present, but his constant harping on it (and shitting on others) grew very tiresome. My man is wicked smart, without a doubt; somehow he is ignorant of the Streisand Effect. ETA The fact that he had to write a fucking essay to defend himself instead of just pointing out his past words doesn't do his current argument any favors. I watched him say the things he said, and you are, as most left and right wing outrage porn purveyors do, mischaracterizing it either purposely or due to ignorance. He makes fun of both groups incessantly. Buddy, I ain't got no dog in this fight. I don't care what Scott's position was or wasn't. You tell me I'm just not smart enough for Scott's nuanced humor then I'll agree with you. But here's a fact: the only reason there is outrage porn is because Scott keep stoking that fire. In the mean time I'll sit here awaiting the details of the Adams v Garrison lawsuit. |
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Posted: 2/27/2023 3:39:12 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: When you start comparing city vs rural, things get complicated by the question of whether it is a racial issue, a city vs rural issue, or a mix of the two. More like as soon as a critical mass of many minority or cultural groups get reached, they get real anti-white real fast. Or they don't police and shame their fervent racists as strictly as the white community does. |
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Posted: 2/27/2023 3:46:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He's been making some bold public statements lately. Truth falls on deaf ears now days. Feelings are all that matters....and even then it's only the popular feelings that are en vogue. In 2015/2016 he made some observations about Trump that triggered the left and the establishment. All he pointed out was Trump's ability to simply topics and connect with people. He was threatened by those on the left of the political spectrum and he then played word games to convince them he was on their side but at the same time pointing out Trump's political effectiveness in a rather positive light. From that point on he was a target. It didn't matter that his observations were right in that case it only mattered that he gave positive light to the Orange Man's techniques. Of course, he went full lockdown which turned a lot of people off to him but suddenly he's come back around in terms of sounding like someone who was fooled in that aspect. It's an interesting business dynamic. |
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Posted: 2/27/2023 3:54:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have a caucasian friend who emigrated to the USA from South Africa where he was born. He is now a US citizen. However, whenever asked to write down his race, he puts "African-american", and unlike many people who were born in the USA, he has the birth certificate and his old South African passport to prove he was born in Africa. I have a coworker like that. He hates the US based bullshit race shit but of course he hated the South African stuff worse since well, he escaped there. |
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Posted: 2/27/2023 3:56:29 PM EDT
[#26]
I can't watch that, I heard he's racist.
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Posted: 2/27/2023 3:57:26 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have a caucasian friend who emigrated to the USA from South Africa where he was born. He is now a US citizen. However, whenever asked to write down his race, he puts "African-american", and unlike many people who were born in the USA, he has the birth certificate and his old South African passport to prove he was born in Africa. I played rugby with a guy that did that, they threatened to pull his scholarship when they found out he wasn’t black. |
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Posted: 2/27/2023 4:07:04 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What? Scott Tweeted, in his own words and presumably of his personal volition, "The unvaccinated are in the middle of a pandemic; for the vaccinated it's another Tuesday" (WTTE, S. Adams, 2021). That sounds pretty damn pro-vaccine. Forgive me if I think his "I was only joking" line insincere. ... and I DGAF about his stance, past or or present, but his constant harping on it (and shitting on others) grew very tiresome. My man is wicked smart, without a doubt; somehow he is ignorant of the Streisand Effect. ETA The fact that he had to write a fucking essay to defend himself instead of just pointing out his past words doesn't do his current argument any favors. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: He was a jab supporter and has been getting shit, so he is probably compensating. You should pay attention to what he says rather than what other people say about what he says. Scott's own posts were very pro-vaccine. He's a really smart guy, and I have a hard time believing him when he now says he was taken out of context. I guess he was "taken out of context" when he said he was going to sue Ben Garrison. I imagine cooler heads talked him out of that one. I unfollowed him on Twitter partially because he wouldn't stop with the revisionist history, but mostly because he wouldn't stop shitting on the anti-c19-vax crowd and saying they "just got lucky". (Which is a bit of double-think in action: "I was never for the vaccine, but everyone else not for the vaccine did so for bad reasons".) Again, you should listen to what he actually says rather than listening to the outrage porn about what other people attribute to him. I don't frequent 4chan, so when Scott told Hotep "it was a 4chan hoax" I just rolled my eyes. I followed Scott on Twitter for years. I didn't archive his posts, I didn't memorize them, but Ben Garrison's critique rang as spot-on, and that it twisted Scott's panties so much just lends more credence to it.
Scott's own words: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/109532/FmHsjfJWIAA6Gkn-2727556.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/109532/FmHsjfHXkAQCrP3-2727557.jpg That doesn’t back up what you said. You all have this “if you don’t condemn the entire medical establishment you’re a commie vaccine forcer” mentality that simply isn’t true. What? Scott Tweeted, in his own words and presumably of his personal volition, "The unvaccinated are in the middle of a pandemic; for the vaccinated it's another Tuesday" (WTTE, S. Adams, 2021). That sounds pretty damn pro-vaccine. Forgive me if I think his "I was only joking" line insincere. ... and I DGAF about his stance, past or or present, but his constant harping on it (and shitting on others) grew very tiresome. My man is wicked smart, without a doubt; somehow he is ignorant of the Streisand Effect. ETA The fact that he had to write a fucking essay to defend himself instead of just pointing out his past words doesn't do his current argument any favors. That’s funny, Scott himself admitted a critic had won when the critic noted that the “Trump said drink bleach” story was still around despite it being de-bunked often over the last 3 years…3 years….https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/23/trump-bleach-one-year-484399. Yeah, I think Scott just gave up, after-all it wasn’t something Scott said and had to fix…it was on Trump. |
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Posted: 2/27/2023 4:13:23 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Asians generally don’t like anyone not their own specific brand of Asian or white. Have never been able to understand why, but that’s how it seems. Idk, my wife likes white people... 
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Posted: 2/27/2023 4:15:21 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It only took a multi-year continual buck breaking from pol for him to stop being an idiot. This. He was an on the fence lib. Probably still is, but now he's getting force fed the really negative aspects of his ideology. |
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Posted: 2/27/2023 4:34:55 PM EDT
[#31]
When he was talking about persuasion and techniques I found it interesting. He seemed very preachy when talking about Vaccines. I used to listen daily while doing other work or commuting. After Covid hit in my perception he spent an inordinate amount of time talking about covid and vaccines. Every topic had to loop back to them in some way. I remember several episodes where noted his audience had asked he talk less about vaccines and he would say he would try and talk about it at the end, but then seemed to immediately start talking about vaccines.
I got to the point where once he started taking about vaccines I just turned if off for the day. eventually I just stopped listening all together. Shortly thereafter my fiance asked me if I still listened to "angry bald guy?" Apparently after she moved in she said she got weird vibes from him when she would hear me listening to him. She said he sounded like something was off. Couple months after that the divorce was announced. If I had to bet money id say the Covid thing probably shook him hard due to his age and possible other factors. Factor in a divorce for unknown reasons and he probably has been going through some shit the last couple years. He is definitely very smart, and has a lot to teach. I just had no interest in hearing about what he wanted to talk about. No clue if his current broadcasts are different or not. |
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Posted: 2/27/2023 4:43:32 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I played rugby with a guy that did that, they threatened to pull his scholarship when they found out he wasn’t black. Then say black on the scholarship app since Africa has no part in the selection process. Most successful African in the world.  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/27/2023 5:39:12 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: More like as soon as a critical mass of many minority or cultural groups get reached, they get real anti-white real fast. Or they don't police and shame their fervent racists as strictly as the white community does. You either dominate, or you're dominated. Some people simply don't understand that. |
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Posted: 2/27/2023 9:50:34 PM EDT
[#34]
While the left rants about Scott Adams, they ignore that the two who shot nine kids in a Georgia gas station has been arrested. Just not convenient that the chuters were black. The Salty Cracker comments on it:
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Posted: 2/27/2023 10:25:32 PM EDT
[#35]
All part of the plan. People have been played like a fiddle. Speaking of groups you cannot mention.
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Posted: 2/27/2023 10:50:33 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If I was a black person in white rural Ohio I'd be just as scared as a white person in Baltimore. I’ve been here a long time and this is the dumbest thing I’ve ever read. Congrats. I mean that. |
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Posted: 2/27/2023 11:02:31 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Idk, my wife likes white people... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Asians generally don’t like anyone not their own specific brand of Asian or white. Have never been able to understand why, but that’s how it seems. Idk, my wife likes white people... Asians have built an entire industry around making their skin as white as possible. Most ridiculous thing I've ever seen, yet you can't go into any Japanese pharmacy without seeing entire aisles of creams and soaps and makeup to make one's skin white. They carry parasols, they wear long sleeves in the sun. Filipinos literally go to clinics to get injections of Glutathione to make their skin whiter. In their culture, whiteness symbolizes wealth, the darker the skin the more field work one must have done and the poorer one must be. |
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Posted: 2/27/2023 11:03:16 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This. He was an on the fence lib. Probably still is, but now he's getting force fed the really negative aspects of his ideology. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It only took a multi-year continual buck breaking from pol for him to stop being an idiot. This. He was an on the fence lib. Probably still is, but now he's getting force fed the really negative aspects of his ideology. He is, by his own admission, to the left of Bernie Sanders. He's not on the fence about anything and never has been. |
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Posted: 2/27/2023 11:09:46 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Be careful, you are coming dangerously close to interjecting unwanted nuance into this thread. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I have nothing to add to this conversation other than my own naivety. I went into the Army 3 days after HS, as a young isolated farm kid. I had literally never spoke to a black person. Almost immediately, I was surrounded by other young recruits, about 25% of them black. Although I wasn't "best friends" with all of them, during my time in the Army I had many black friends, a few that remain close 40 years later. I NEVER had a racial issue with any of them. Imagine my fucking SHOCK when I got out of the Army and slowly realized that blacks were as racist as we (whites) had been accused of. I have noticed that rural blacks are completely different than city blacks. Just recently I drove from Florida to Michigan and back. It was like a social experiment. Rural blacks at a gas station in southern Georgia acted COMPLETELY different than the ones I met in Atlanta. The folks I met in rural Georgia were just regular folks. I helped one guy back his trailer, chatted with his wife....we were just normal people communicating. In Atlanta, I was asked for money by a guy who was trying REALLY hard to be scary (LOL). The hotel clerks and people in the restaurant were kinda off....like fake-polite/schemers. Any time we were in a crowd, the vibe was threatening. The glares and stares were odd. I hated it. I have tried all of my life to consciously NOT be a racist.....having been raised by Archie Bunker type bigots. I have always HEARD that blacks are racist, but experiencing it was kinda disappointing. Back to the woods for me....you folks can have the fucking city. Be careful, you are coming dangerously close to interjecting unwanted nuance into this thread. Here’s the thing. Generally speaking, people go where they fit in. After a lifetime in the city you will bring it with you and you will never fit in. People in functional communities in rural areas have spent a century or more living together and building ties that are generational. I don’t want a bunch of people living here with no connection to the community or the land. They would bring their bullshit with them and blame everyone for not wanting to put up with it. When you have 4-6 generations of ties it’s easy to overlook a bad apple because you know the family. You just come in and want to get that same amount of acceptance? It is not going to happen unless you have the right attitude and patience. It’s not the fresh air and quietude that makes rural communities nice. It’s the people there and generations of people before who built it. |
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Posted: 2/28/2023 5:41:43 AM EDT
[#40]
The funny thing is, according to his latest livestream, the group that cancelled him were wealthy white elites. He went on to say that most blacks he has talked to and read reactions from, largely agreed with his original statement.
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Posted: 2/28/2023 9:56:42 AM EDT
[#41]
It's amazing the outrage simply noticing things can generate.
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Posted: 2/28/2023 10:37:19 AM EDT
[#42]
While he was going through his divorce his ex's kids were still staying with him to see out the school year. When they left the home summer last year that is when I saw/heard a big change in him as he was now living alone - no-one around to temper him, more time to get caught up in his own thoughts - his kind of empty nest syndrome.
Also when i started to notice more my suspicion that he was doing his livestream high. I have listed to him long enough that I think I can tell when he is high - very very slight slow down in his speech. |
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Posted: 2/28/2023 10:39:24 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He is, by his own admission, to the left of Bernie Sanders. He's not on the fence about anything and never has been. |
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Posted: 2/28/2023 12:21:05 PM EDT
[#44]
Quoted: Quoted: If I was a black person in white rural Ohio I'd be just as scared as a white person in Baltimore. It's like something someone from another planet would say. |
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Posted: 2/28/2023 2:22:21 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/28/2023 2:43:22 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Here is another inconsistency you'll see in social debates. We are supposed to accept that redlining or any historical eminent domain action for infrastructure was fundamentally white supremacy, and not just classism. Because, even though there were plenty of poorer white people and other groups involved in this, it "disproportionately" impacted black people relative to their populations in those cities. As such, you will constantly here the narrative advanced that these things targeted "black neighborhoods" even when there is zero evidence race was on any of the minds of those making the decisions. This idea that "disproportionately black" can and should be expressed with the shorthand "black" is used in many other contexts, but only in so far as the idea is to paint the residents as victims of systemic racism. In fact, trying to remind people that those policies impactes poor white people as well will be viewed as an attempt (probably rooted in your white privilege) to minimize the reality of white supremacy. The moment the context changes and, say, someone is arguing for why we need section 8 programs in suburban neighborhoods, you are no longer able to suggest the argument is, at its core, suggesting people are better off not being in black neighborhoods. In these cases. Even suggest this is "racist." Instead, people will go to great pains to point out that the fundamental issue is socioeconomic status and that those areas they don't want section 8 limited to are just incidentally disproportionately black. Of course, the reason those areas are is once again "systemic racism." Pay attention to these policy debates for any length of time and you will see this inherent inconsistency. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Was going to add that Dave Chappell lives in a rural part of Ohio that is probably all white Yellow Springs is more left than San Francisco. Just as NIMBY too. African Americans in that town only have to fear tripping over the whites bowing down to them to show they aren't part of the straight white male patriarchy. It's a super liberal college town not a racist methbillyburg. Yes, I think I heard that, but wanted add to the point that plenty of blacks don't want to live in black areas and that the most lefty cities around tend to be pretty damn white but the lefty whites don't talk about that. Here is another inconsistency you'll see in social debates. We are supposed to accept that redlining or any historical eminent domain action for infrastructure was fundamentally white supremacy, and not just classism. Because, even though there were plenty of poorer white people and other groups involved in this, it "disproportionately" impacted black people relative to their populations in those cities. As such, you will constantly here the narrative advanced that these things targeted "black neighborhoods" even when there is zero evidence race was on any of the minds of those making the decisions. This idea that "disproportionately black" can and should be expressed with the shorthand "black" is used in many other contexts, but only in so far as the idea is to paint the residents as victims of systemic racism. In fact, trying to remind people that those policies impactes poor white people as well will be viewed as an attempt (probably rooted in your white privilege) to minimize the reality of white supremacy. The moment the context changes and, say, someone is arguing for why we need section 8 programs in suburban neighborhoods, you are no longer able to suggest the argument is, at its core, suggesting people are better off not being in black neighborhoods. In these cases. Even suggest this is "racist." Instead, people will go to great pains to point out that the fundamental issue is socioeconomic status and that those areas they don't want section 8 limited to are just incidentally disproportionately black. Of course, the reason those areas are is once again "systemic racism." Pay attention to these policy debates for any length of time and you will see this inherent inconsistency. Also, I guarantee plenty of black families move out of the ghetto to white neighborhoods to get a better life for their kids. That can cause new white flight (Michelle Obama complained about that in her Chicago neighborhood but still doesn't get it) but black flight exists as well. Oh, and on topic just saw this on Twitter -- article from the NYT: 
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Posted: 2/28/2023 2:53:40 PM EDT
[#47]
The pc police have been after him for years
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Posted: 2/28/2023 3:19:46 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh, and on topic just saw this on Twitter -- article from the NYT: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FqBWiuWacAAYpJ_?format=jpg&name=small The entire country would lose their fucking minds. |
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Posted: 2/28/2023 3:35:49 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Can you imagine a headline, "Can My Children Be Friends With Black People"? The entire country would lose their fucking minds. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Oh, and on topic just saw this on Twitter -- article from the NYT: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FqBWiuWacAAYpJ_?format=jpg&name=small The entire country would lose their fucking minds. Derbyshire, so we know |
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Posted: 2/28/2023 5:13:41 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He was probably ready to retire. Got fed up supressing it for monetary reasons and just wanted to speak his mind. If he had long term contracts, there were probably monetary penalties if he voluntarily quit producing Dilbert strips. I am sure when he is cancelled, it will negate those. This might be a money saving ploy on his part. |
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