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Posted: 12/20/2018 9:23:47 PM EDT
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Is Lt Col Allan West a swamp creature  |
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Posted: 12/20/2018 9:24:35 PM EDT
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Wrong. Mattis is a fool for wanting to prolong the Deep State war in the Middle East. |
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Posted: 12/20/2018 9:25:19 PM EDT
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Neocon is our because Trump starts pulling the plug on idiotic foreign wars the public is tired of? For shame.  |
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Posted: 12/20/2018 9:25:29 PM EDT
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Is this really "retiring" or "I can't deal with you any longer"? |
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Posted: 12/20/2018 9:28:16 PM EDT
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Just between Chief of staff, Communications director, Press secretary, National Security Adviser, FBI director, CIA director, Trump has tore through 18 senior level folks in 2 years. Obama went through 7 in 8 years and Bush 9 in 8 years. Adamant Trump supporters remind me of the South Park cop... Anything at all Obama did was utter garbage although anything bad about Trump this is them: 
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Posted: 12/20/2018 9:28:41 PM EDT
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Neocon is our what? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 12/20/2018 9:28:49 PM EDT
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You look in to the past and see what defense secretaries have resigned over, and this is nothing. Mattis is being extremely petty. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wrong. Mattis is a fool for wanting to prolong the Deep State war in the Middle East. Trump gave the orders. Mattis developed a strategy and came up with a plan to realize Trump’s desired end state. Troops are deployed and we form alliances and partnerships to execute the strategy. Then Trump undermines and dismantles essential elements of the strategy, without consulting with his commanders. It egregious. |
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Posted: 12/20/2018 9:28:51 PM EDT
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Resigning because Trump wants to finally pull out and save the US some coin.
Oh the humanity. Maybe now we can actually focus on America's #1 Geopolitical threat... Not the borders between Syria and Turkey, not the borders between Afghanistan and Iran.... the actual fucking invasion that is happening on our own soil. 
We can shit out $45 billion annually in perpetuity for an unwinnable conflict in Afghanistan, but we can't even pay for a fucking wall to keep these communists out? Yeah, I'd say it's about time we get our priorities straight. |
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Posted: 12/20/2018 9:29:34 PM EDT
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Simply not normal or a solid presidency. This is what everyone that didn't support Trump warned about... This administration is turning into a banana republic style of politics. Adamant Trump supporters remind me of the South Park cop... Anything at all Obama did was utter garbage although anything bad about Trump this is them: https://www.chronicle.com/blogs/linguafranca/files/2017/11/Nothing-to-See-15a34a2fc727c8.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just between Chief of staff, Communications director, Press secretary, National Security Adviser, FBI director, CIA director, Trump has tore through 18 senior level folks in 2 years. Obama went through 7 in 8 years and Bush 9 in 8 years. Adamant Trump supporters remind me of the South Park cop... Anything at all Obama did was utter garbage although anything bad about Trump this is them: https://www.chronicle.com/blogs/linguafranca/files/2017/11/Nothing-to-See-15a34a2fc727c8.jpg |
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Posted: 12/20/2018 9:30:10 PM EDT
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Why are you shilling for that Democrat tard? Did his quote about killing everyone give you a chub? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Neocon is our because Trump starts pulling the plug on idiotic foreign wars the public is tired of? For shame. 
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Posted: 12/20/2018 9:30:19 PM EDT
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Nope, he only served one term. He is a war criminal, so probably not qualified.
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Posted: 12/20/2018 9:30:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sorry, all the weapons we gave to "moderate Muslim rebels" in Syria happened to end up in ISIS's hands. Pure coincidence. Just a couple of the very many emails discussing kicking things off in Syria. But ISIS came out of nowhere. https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/google-syria-rebels-defection-hillary-clinton-emails-wikileaks-a6946121.html https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/18328 |
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Posted: 12/20/2018 9:31:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who are those people? I feel sorry for someone as arrogant as you as well. But until you can prove or show a WikiLeaks that has been wrong in any way shape or form you don't have an argument you're just bleating. Care to explain and maybe point out WHAT you are claiming that Wikileaks has claimed? They post raw data -- they don't have a Nostradamus style book of predictions. Someone is babbling here and it isn't me. |
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Posted: 12/20/2018 9:32:20 PM EDT
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Simply not normal or a solid presidency. This is what everyone that didn't support Trump warned about... This administration is turning into a banana republic style of politics. Adamant Trump supporters remind me of the South Park cop... Anything at all Obama did was utter garbage although anything bad about Trump this is them: https://www.chronicle.com/blogs/linguafranca/files/2017/11/Nothing-to-See-15a34a2fc727c8.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just between Chief of staff, Communications director, Press secretary, National Security Adviser, FBI director, CIA director, Trump has tore through 18 senior level folks in 2 years. Obama went through 7 in 8 years and Bush 9 in 8 years. Adamant Trump supporters remind me of the South Park cop... Anything at all Obama did was utter garbage although anything bad about Trump this is them: https://www.chronicle.com/blogs/linguafranca/files/2017/11/Nothing-to-See-15a34a2fc727c8.jpg |
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Posted: 12/20/2018 9:32:34 PM EDT
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You sound very smart. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Neocon is our because Trump starts pulling the plug on idiotic foreign wars the public is tired of? For shame.
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Posted: 12/20/2018 9:33:38 PM EDT
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A great leader does not drive off the good people who work for him.
With every week that passes, I'm more and more convinced that Trump is a one-term president. And I'm less and less convinced that his not having a second term will be a bad thing for the nation. |
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Posted: 12/20/2018 9:34:23 PM EDT
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I miss our back-forth before the election..... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 12/20/2018 9:34:34 PM EDT
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Hmmmm...It's always been my understanding that ISIS was started by an Iraqi Air Force Colonel and Baathist who was a logistical mastermind and saw opportunity in using the religious fervor among the foreign peasants who floated around looking for work. He had connections to AQI, did time with some AQI, but was never in AQI. Al Queda actually didn't want to be associated with ISIS and they spent a great deal of effort trying to eradicate each other in Syria. |
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Posted: 12/20/2018 9:34:52 PM EDT
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War criminal, riiiight |
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Posted: 12/20/2018 9:36:23 PM EDT
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Sorry but when someone insists we stay in Afgjanistan, Iraq, Syria, etc. While being completely cucked to defending our own border you can gtfo. Every single one of these fuckers would love to be in every country the world over for decades if not centuries if they had their way. |
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Posted: 12/20/2018 9:37:07 PM EDT
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Except the numbers aren't right. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just between Chief of staff, Communications director, Press secretary, National Security Adviser, FBI director, CIA director, Trump has tore through 18 senior level folks in 2 years. Obama went through 7 in 8 years and Bush 9 in 8 years. Adamant Trump supporters remind me of the South Park cop... Anything at all Obama did was utter garbage although anything bad about Trump this is them: https://www.chronicle.com/blogs/linguafranca/files/2017/11/Nothing-to-See-15a34a2fc727c8.jpg https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/trump-turnover-rate-firings-resignations-compared-obama-bush-clinton-2018-3 |
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Posted: 12/20/2018 9:37:13 PM EDT
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@outofbattery has implied that since Flynn was Turkish property, there may be other Turkish lackeys leading Trump down the primrose path. There may be something to this. It would explain why we bent over for Turkey on Koshogi and why we're selling the Kurds out to Turkey. Are there any Trump Towers in Istanbul? I don’t know what Bolton is telling Trump or if he is just consulting his very good brain at this stage. Kelly and Mattis leaving is worrisome and is going to cause quite a bit of panic among allies. Their presence was a counterweight to “I could work very well with Putin” and trashing NATO. I don’t know,maybe 4D chess is a thing or maybe Barron Trump is the real President and he’s just having a bit of LARPing fun...at this point I’d say near anything is possible because not a whole bunch really makes sense. |
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Posted: 12/20/2018 9:39:15 PM EDT
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Remember when picking Mattis was proof of Trump's brilliance? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Neocon is our because Trump starts pulling the plug on idiotic foreign wars the public is tired of? For shame. He ended up being a step above Sessions. Insert comment regarding Trumps appointees here. |
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Posted: 12/20/2018 9:39:17 PM EDT
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https://taskandpurpose.com/mattis-female-infantry-combat-2/ Basically, his position is that there are too few women in infantry to make a proper assessment. More are needed to see if it's a good thing or a bad thing.  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good. Mattis didn’t do shit to end the blatant SJW policies within the DoD. I had high hopes for him, but what exactly has he done to improve the Obama military??? Trannies are still being pushed, women are still being pushed into jobs they're not qualified for (and for sure not the best qualified) and as far as I can tell the SJW crap is still as bad as during Obama. edited for clarity Basically, his position is that there are too few women in infantry to make a proper assessment. More are needed to see if it's a good thing or a bad thing. |
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Posted: 12/20/2018 9:40:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sorry, all the weapons we gave to "moderate Muslim rebels" in Syria happened to end up in ISIS's hands. Pure coincidence. Just a couple of the very many emails discussing kicking things off in Syria. But ISIS came out of nowhere. https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/google-syria-rebels-defection-hillary-clinton-emails-wikileaks-a6946121.html https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/18328 What are you talking about "ISIS came out of nowhere?" We've discussed this in this thread. ISIS existed long before the Syrian Civil War started. You literally have no idea what you are talking about. Your timeline is off by several years at best. You may want to learn some shit before continuing to make absurd and easily disproved claims. The precursors to ISIS existed back as far as 1999. The modern iteration of ISIS started around '08 -' 09 and Baghdadi firmly established his leadership and the idea of a caliphate by early 2010. The Syrian Civil War didn't start until at least a year later. You're hilariously wrong. |
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Posted: 12/20/2018 9:41:35 PM EDT
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Good. Mattis didn’t do shit to end the blatant SJW policies within the DoD. |
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Posted: 12/20/2018 9:41:48 PM EDT
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I do. He ended up being a step above Sessions. Insert comment regarding Trumps appointees here. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Neocon is our because Trump starts pulling the plug on idiotic foreign wars the public is tired of? For shame. He ended up being a step above Sessions. Insert comment regarding Trumps appointees here. |
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Posted: 12/20/2018 9:42:10 PM EDT
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It’s not at all petty. Trump gave the orders. Mattis developed a strategy and came up with a plan to realize Trump’s desired end state. Troops are deployed and we form alliances and partnerships to execute the strategy. Then Trump undermines and dismantles essential elements of the strategy, without consulting with his commanders. It egregious. |
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Posted: 12/20/2018 9:42:32 PM EDT
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Trump should fire whoever hired all these Democrats, libtards, cucks,neocons, idiots and RINOs for his cabinet.
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Posted: 12/20/2018 9:43:34 PM EDT
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calling it now trump is out in 2020
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Posted: 12/20/2018 9:44:20 PM EDT
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ISIS is almost totally eliminated, Trump will take a victory lap while Mattis will be left babbling about some supposedly bigger reason that no one will ever articulate. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It’s not at all petty. Trump gave the orders. Mattis developed a strategy and came up with a plan to realize Trump’s desired end state. Troops are deployed and we form alliances and partnerships to execute the strategy. Then Trump undermines and dismantles essential elements of the strategy, without consulting with his commanders. It egregious. |
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Posted: 12/20/2018 9:44:37 PM EDT
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calling it now trump is out in 2020 |
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Posted: 12/20/2018 9:45:36 PM EDT
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Do you think Trump would be a better SecDef than Mattis? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Neocon is our because Trump starts pulling the plug on idiotic foreign wars the public is tired of? For shame. He ended up being a step above Sessions. Insert comment regarding Trumps appointees here. I do agree on withdrawing troops though. |
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Posted: 12/20/2018 9:46:02 PM EDT
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Trump should fire whoever hired all these Democrats, libtards, cucks,neocons, idiots and RINOs for his cabinet. |
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Posted: 12/20/2018 9:47:56 PM EDT
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Yes, when you commit a crime, in a war zone, are asked to resign or face the man, you are a war criminal. Go and read what he did, admitted to, and try to defend it. If you had done that as an enlisted guy, instead of an officer (of a protected race, with political aspirations), you'd be in prison still. Good job ! At least you can report back to share blue (is it even called shade blue anymore ?) that you were able to insult someone And yes I know what he did , and have zero issues with it. |
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Posted: 12/20/2018 9:48:05 PM EDT
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Why are you shilling for that Democrat tard? Did his quote about killing everyone give you a chub? |
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Posted: 12/20/2018 9:48:12 PM EDT
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This is old but yes, numbers seem about right: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/trump-turnover-rate-firings-resignations-compared-obama-bush-clinton-2018-3 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just between Chief of staff, Communications director, Press secretary, National Security Adviser, FBI director, CIA director, Trump has tore through 18 senior level folks in 2 years. Obama went through 7 in 8 years and Bush 9 in 8 years. Adamant Trump supporters remind me of the South Park cop... Anything at all Obama did was utter garbage although anything bad about Trump this is them: https://www.chronicle.com/blogs/linguafranca/files/2017/11/Nothing-to-See-15a34a2fc727c8.jpg https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/trump-turnover-rate-firings-resignations-compared-obama-bush-clinton-2018-3 4 SECDEFs 3 press secretary 3 dciaa 2 odni 2 sec state 2 AG |
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Posted: 12/20/2018 9:51:07 PM EDT
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I thought the warrior monk was going to really push out all of the bull shit of the Obama administration but he hasn't done shit. I have been very disappointed with his performance as Sec Def. |
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Posted: 12/20/2018 9:52:22 PM EDT
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What would have happened had we stayed out of WW1? Think about it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Those of you who want to completely withdraw from the Middle East/Syria forget the lessons of WWI and II, where strict isolationist policies from the US allowed for some pretty fucked up dictators to come about. Think about it. |
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Posted: 12/20/2018 9:53:02 PM EDT
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Just between Chief of staff, Communications director, Press secretary, National Security Adviser, FBI director, CIA director, Trump has tore through 18 senior level folks in 2 years. Obama went through 7 in 8 years and Bush 9 in 8 years. |
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Posted: 12/20/2018 9:53:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Half of ARFCOM |
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Posted: 12/20/2018 9:55:29 PM EDT
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You think that those 2,000 troops in Syria are all about ISIS? That's cute. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's not at all petty. Trump gave the orders. Mattis developed a strategy and came up with a plan to realize Trump's desired end state. Troops are deployed and we form alliances and partnerships to execute the strategy. Then Trump undermines and dismantles essential elements of the strategy, without consulting with his commanders. It egregious. |
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Posted: 12/20/2018 9:56:24 PM EDT
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And there goes the only man in this administration that was decent. |
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Posted: 12/20/2018 9:56:40 PM EDT
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Now i really really really want a Mad Dog Mattis lower
 
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Posted: 12/20/2018 10:00:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Remember when picking Mattis was proof of Trump’s brilliance? |
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Posted: 12/20/2018 10:04:06 PM EDT
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Resigning because Trump wants to finally pull out and save the US some coin. Oh the humanity. Maybe now we can actually focus on America's #1 Geopolitical threat... Not the borders between Syria and Turkey, not the borders between Afghanistan and Iran.... the actual fucking invasion that is happening on our own soil. https://i.imgur.com/1YkxyOj.png https://i.imgur.com/fJVqNlF.png https://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_43/2621716/181028-migrant-caravan-al-0906_629b8917d31827524d5de50573bf0896.fit-760w.jpg We can shit out $45 billion annually in perpetuity for an unwinnable conflict in Afghanistan, but we can't even pay for a fucking wall to keep these communists out? Yeah, I'd say it's about time we get our priorities straight. |
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Posted: 12/20/2018 10:04:08 PM EDT
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Good riddance.
Trump needs and deserves a conservative nationalist Defense Sec. Mattis turned out to be a liberal globalist. |
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Posted: 12/20/2018 10:06:05 PM EDT
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The Empire is crumbling!
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Posted: 12/20/2018 10:09:04 PM EDT
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ISIS is almost totally eliminated, Trump will take a victory lap while Mattis will be left babbling about some supposedly bigger reason that no one will ever articulate.  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/20/2018 10:10:36 PM EDT
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I'm conflicted. I liked mattis, I also dont mind seeing Joes come home to their families with all of their arms and legs.
I think there are wars worth fighting, but we need to choose them carefully and get out as quickly as we can. So leaving Syria doesn't bother me...it also doesn't mean we can go back if need be or just adjust our foot print as needed. If ISIS wasn't the reason we were there...what geopolitical imperative was worth our effort? |
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