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Posted: 12/21/2018 11:28:28 AM EDT
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So Mattis wasn't all that irreplaceable after all.
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Posted: 12/21/2018 11:29:20 AM EDT
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On a scale of 1 to 10 how would you rate Mattis? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Mattis is apolitical. His testimony at his confirmation hearings spoke of "climate change" as a driver for famine and floods, etc, and therefore a factor in military planning. This is common sense. He was not speaking of man-made climate change. And he in no way "fought to keep transgendered troops in the military." Trump "ordered" the ban via a Tweet. Mattis sought a formal order, and then convened a study to come up with a sound way of executing the order. Trump's final and formal command was BASED on the Mattis Study. |
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Posted: 12/21/2018 11:29:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: SecDef? He's a 9 compared to every SecDef in my 32 years of service. |
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Posted: 12/21/2018 11:32:50 AM EDT
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So Mattis wasn't all that irreplaceable after all. My guess... 1) Pompeo 2) Shanahan (current Deputy) 3) Random Fox News Retired General |
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Posted: 12/21/2018 11:35:16 AM EDT
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That's all you got from my post? Pointing out that you've been tricked by Democrats doesn't mean you are a Democrat; read that list a few more times. On second thought, just read this: "James Mattis really is a Democrat." Try cherry-picking that one.  At the risk of committing an unforgivable arfcom sin: I don't care what political party he belongs to (if any), on the whole he was good at his job. When did that stop mattering? |
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Posted: 12/21/2018 11:37:20 AM EDT
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Mattis is apolitical. His testimony at his confirmation hearings spoke of "climate change" as a driver for famine and floods, etc, and therefore a factor in military planning. This is common sense. He was not speaking of man-made climate change. And he in no way "fought to keep transgendered troops in the military." Trump "ordered" the ban via a Tweet. Mattis sought a formal order, and then convened a study to come up with a sound way of executing the order. Trump's final and formal command was BASED on the Mattis Study. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Mattis, who Trump described as a "bit of a Democrat": - Nomination universally supported by Democrats and NeverTrumpers - Involved in the Theranos scam - Fought Trump to keep Transgendered troops in the military - Fought Trump on sending troops to secure the border during the caravan - Caught going behind Trump's back to try and hire CNAS Obama flunkies at DOD - Pushed the "Global Warming is the REAL enemy" line - Fought Trump on his campaign promise of ending the Afghanistan War If you're throwing a tantrum over his exit, you're in the company of Democrats and NeverTrumpers. Think about that. His testimony at his confirmation hearings spoke of "climate change" as a driver for famine and floods, etc, and therefore a factor in military planning. This is common sense. He was not speaking of man-made climate change. And he in no way "fought to keep transgendered troops in the military." Trump "ordered" the ban via a Tweet. Mattis sought a formal order, and then convened a study to come up with a sound way of executing the order. Trump's final and formal command was BASED on the Mattis Study. You fell for a service meme, but you'll double-down before admitting it. |
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Posted: 12/21/2018 11:39:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who will replace him? My guess... 1) Pompeo 2) Shanahan (current Deputy) 3) Random Fox News Retired General But it seems he could get someone with more military active duty experience IMHO......unless Shanahan has that experience, I don't know anything about him. |
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Posted: 12/21/2018 11:42:31 AM EDT
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BS on both your cherry-pickings, Mattis played interference as long as he could on the Tranny business (kept them in place 6 months) and has made consistent claims regarding climate change while SECDEF; now do CNAS/Flournoy, that should be good. You fell for a service meme, but you'll double-down before admitting it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Mattis, who Trump described as a "bit of a Democrat": - Nomination universally supported by Democrats and NeverTrumpers - Involved in the Theranos scam - Fought Trump to keep Transgendered troops in the military - Fought Trump on sending troops to secure the border during the caravan - Caught going behind Trump's back to try and hire CNAS Obama flunkies at DOD - Pushed the "Global Warming is the REAL enemy" line - Fought Trump on his campaign promise of ending the Afghanistan War If you're throwing a tantrum over his exit, you're in the company of Democrats and NeverTrumpers. Think about that. His testimony at his confirmation hearings spoke of "climate change" as a driver for famine and floods, etc, and therefore a factor in military planning. This is common sense. He was not speaking of man-made climate change. And he in no way "fought to keep transgendered troops in the military." Trump "ordered" the ban via a Tweet. Mattis sought a formal order, and then convened a study to come up with a sound way of executing the order. Trump's final and formal command was BASED on the Mattis Study. You fell for a service meme, but you'll double-down before admitting it. The Department of Defense is not operated based upon the interpretation of Tweets. Describing him as a "shitlib" is false, irrational and emotional. |
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Posted: 12/21/2018 11:43:21 AM EDT
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No, it isn't. But when you throw that in, it drowns out the rest of your message. At the risk of committing an unforgivable arfcom sin: I don't care what political party he belongs to (if any), on the whole he was good at his job. When did that stop mattering? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's all you got from my post? Pointing out that you've been tricked by Democrats doesn't mean you are a Democrat; read that list a few more times. On second thought, just read this: "James Mattis really is a Democrat." Try cherry-picking that one. At the risk of committing an unforgivable arfcom sin: I don't care what political party he belongs to (if any), on the whole he was good at his job. When did that stop mattering? |
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Posted: 12/21/2018 11:44:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who will replace him? My guess... 1) Pompeo 2) Shanahan (current Deputy) 3) Random Fox News Retired General |
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Posted: 12/21/2018 11:44:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: BS on both your cherry-pickings, Mattis played interference as long as he could on the Tranny business (kept them in place 6 months) and has made consistent claims regarding climate change while SECDEF; now do CNAS/Flournoy, that should be good. You fell for a service meme, but you'll double-down before admitting it. |
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Posted: 12/21/2018 11:45:26 AM EDT
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Trump will bring in a MAGA closer from the bullpen. He's known he would replace Mattis for a while and I'm sure he has a couple guys warmed up.
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Posted: 12/21/2018 11:46:55 AM EDT
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Is he still retiring at the end of February?
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Posted: 12/21/2018 11:47:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "Drowning out the message" and putting words in my mouth (rather than engaging on the issues) sure are convenient alternatives to facing the facts. Two more of those for you: Mattis is a shitlib, and there's a sucker born every minute. Merry Christmas |
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Posted: 12/21/2018 11:48:33 AM EDT
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Cherry pickings? You mean undeniable facts. The Department of Defense is not operated based upon the interpretation of Tweets. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Mattis, who Trump described as a "bit of a Democrat": - Nomination universally supported by Democrats and NeverTrumpers - Involved in the Theranos scam - Fought Trump to keep Transgendered troops in the military - Fought Trump on sending troops to secure the border during the caravan - Caught going behind Trump's back to try and hire CNAS Obama flunkies at DOD - Pushed the "Global Warming is the REAL enemy" line - Fought Trump on his campaign promise of ending the Afghanistan War If you're throwing a tantrum over his exit, you're in the company of Democrats and NeverTrumpers. Think about that. His testimony at his confirmation hearings spoke of "climate change" as a driver for famine and floods, etc, and therefore a factor in military planning. This is common sense. He was not speaking of man-made climate change. And he in no way "fought to keep transgendered troops in the military." Trump "ordered" the ban via a Tweet. Mattis sought a formal order, and then convened a study to come up with a sound way of executing the order. Trump's final and formal command was BASED on the Mattis Study. You fell for a service meme, but you'll double-down before admitting it. The Department of Defense is not operated based upon the interpretation of Tweets. Still avoiding Mattis and CNAS? How about the rest of that list? Go fire up Google before you embarrass yourself any further on said "facts" regarding St. Mattis the Shitlib, Devil Dog. |
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Posted: 12/21/2018 11:51:54 AM EDT
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LOL when you double down twice is that a quadruple down? Still avoiding Mattis and CNAS? How about the rest of that list? Go fire up Google before you embarrass yourself any further on said "facts" regarding St. Mattis the Shitlib, Devil Dog. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Mattis, who Trump described as a "bit of a Democrat": - Nomination universally supported by Democrats and NeverTrumpers - Involved in the Theranos scam - Fought Trump to keep Transgendered troops in the military - Fought Trump on sending troops to secure the border during the caravan - Caught going behind Trump's back to try and hire CNAS Obama flunkies at DOD - Pushed the "Global Warming is the REAL enemy" line - Fought Trump on his campaign promise of ending the Afghanistan War If you're throwing a tantrum over his exit, you're in the company of Democrats and NeverTrumpers. Think about that. His testimony at his confirmation hearings spoke of "climate change" as a driver for famine and floods, etc, and therefore a factor in military planning. This is common sense. He was not speaking of man-made climate change. And he in no way "fought to keep transgendered troops in the military." Trump "ordered" the ban via a Tweet. Mattis sought a formal order, and then convened a study to come up with a sound way of executing the order. Trump's final and formal command was BASED on the Mattis Study. You fell for a service meme, but you'll double-down before admitting it. The Department of Defense is not operated based upon the interpretation of Tweets. Still avoiding Mattis and CNAS? How about the rest of that list? Go fire up Google before you embarrass yourself any further on said "facts" regarding St. Mattis the Shitlib, Devil Dog. I reserve such effort for those with integrity. *Click* |
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Posted: 12/21/2018 11:52:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL when you double down twice is that a quadruple down? Still avoiding Mattis and CNAS? How about the rest of that list? Go fire up Google before you embarrass yourself any further on said "facts" regarding St. Mattis the Shitlib, Devil Dog. I'm just sayin'...………. |
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Posted: 12/21/2018 11:53:40 AM EDT
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Um, not letting Iran and Russia dominate Syria, Iraq and the rest of the Levant. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm conflicted. I liked mattis, I also dont mind seeing Joes come home to their families with all of their arms and legs. I think there are wars worth fighting, but we need to choose them carefully and get out as quickly as we can. So leaving Syria doesn't bother me...it also doesn't mean we can go back if need be or just adjust our foot print as needed. If ISIS wasn't the reason we were there...what geopolitical imperative was worth our effort? See, people like you are the problem. The John McCain's of the world. There's not an acre out in the rest of the world worth the blood of an American G. I. Why don't you and all of your kin go fight these worthless dick measuring contests? |
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Posted: 12/21/2018 11:56:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have no idea what CNAS is, and I don't care. You stated blatant falsehoods, so why dig deeper into your blather? I reserve such effort for those with integrity. *Click* |
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Posted: 12/21/2018 11:56:33 AM EDT
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You think Mattis knows this stuff better than Trump? Theirs a reason Trump is known as The God King Emperor, and it’s not because he’s a beta cuck to SJW soyboys like Marxist Mattis. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Read the letter. He says in no uncertain terms why he resigned, and how his beliefs were at odds with the ideas and actions of the President. Trump is a fool for ignoring Mattis. 
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Posted: 12/21/2018 11:58:16 AM EDT
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Mattis, who Trump described as a "bit of a Democrat": - Nomination universally supported by Democrats and NeverTrumpers - Involved in the Theranos scam - Fought Trump to keep Transgendered troops in the military - Fought Trump on sending troops to secure the border during the caravan - Caught going behind Trump's back to try and hire CNAS Obama flunkies at DOD - Pushed the "Global Warming is the REAL enemy" line - Fought Trump on his campaign promise of ending the Afghanistan War If you're throwing a tantrum over his exit, you're in the company of Democrats and NeverTrumpers. Think about that. 
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Posted: 12/21/2018 11:58:16 AM EDT
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I think the Democrats just found their 2020 Presidenial candidate!
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Posted: 12/21/2018 11:58:29 AM EDT
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Cincinnatus might ACTUALLY know Mattis. I'm just sayin'...………. That's a hard pill to swallow - witness 16 pages of lashing out, cherry-picking and, well... ignoring. |
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Posted: 12/21/2018 12:00:06 PM EDT
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Wasnt he the guy that said troops cant defend our own border!! If so, fuck him. What good is him being gung ho warrior if only while in some shithole in the middle east while our own border is over run?
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Posted: 12/21/2018 12:01:23 PM EDT
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Mattis, who Trump described as a "bit of a Democrat": - Nomination universally supported by Democrats and NeverTrumpers - Involved in the Theranos scam - Fought Trump to keep Transgendered troops in the military - Fought Trump on sending troops to secure the border during the caravan - Caught going behind Trump's back to try and hire CNAS Obama flunkies at DOD - Pushed the "Global Warming is the REAL enemy" line - Fought Trump on his campaign promise of ending the Afghanistan War If you're throwing a tantrum over his exit, you're in the company of Democrats and NeverTrumpers. Think about that. 
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Posted: 12/21/2018 12:02:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Like all Marines, he deified a guy who turned out to be a Democrat. That's a hard pill to swallow - witness 16 pages of lashing out, cherry-picking and, well... ignoring. So who am I supposed to fucking believe...…..my limited knowledge of only "knowing" him based solely on seeing him on TV, etc., or someone who has been active military for 32 years who might ACTUALLY know him? I would imagine most people would rely on Cincinnatus's opinion over mine...…...right? |
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Posted: 12/21/2018 12:04:25 PM EDT
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Sorry but when someone insists we stay in Afgjanistan, Iraq, Syria, etc. While being completely cucked to defending our own border you can gtfo. Every single one of these fuckers would love to be in every country the world over for decades if not centuries if they had their way. @sheddy |
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Posted: 12/21/2018 12:05:00 PM EDT
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I admit Mattis did appear to be a bit of a leftie but Cincinnatus has been in the military for 32 years and he says otherwise. So who am I supposed to fucking believe.....my limited knowledge of only "knowing" him based solely on seeing him on TV, etc., or someone who has been active military for 32 years who might ACTUALLY know him? I would imagine most people would rely on Cincinnatus's opinion over mine......right? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Like all Marines, he deified a guy who turned out to be a Democrat. That's a hard pill to swallow - witness 16 pages of lashing out, cherry-picking and, well... ignoring. So who am I supposed to fucking believe.....my limited knowledge of only "knowing" him based solely on seeing him on TV, etc., or someone who has been active military for 32 years who might ACTUALLY know him? I would imagine most people would rely on Cincinnatus's opinion over mine......right? |
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Posted: 12/21/2018 12:08:31 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/21/2018 12:09:16 PM EDT
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Most of edumacated GDers seem to think that political affiliations are completely digital too. If they don't meet up with 100% of their beliefs/tenets then you're instantly a communist soyboy fag. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: Like all Marines, he deified a guy who turned out to be a Democrat. That's a hard pill to swallow - witness 16 pages of lashing out, cherry-picking and, well... ignoring. So who am I supposed to fucking believe.....my limited knowledge of only "knowing" him based solely on seeing him on TV, etc., or someone who has been active military for 32 years who might ACTUALLY know him? I would imagine most people would rely on Cincinnatus's opinion over mine......right? 
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Posted: 12/21/2018 12:11:59 PM EDT
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It will be interesting to see if Mattis starts appearing on CNN and MSNBC after Feb.
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Posted: 12/21/2018 12:14:22 PM EDT
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You sure are hung up about the LGBT thing in the military. They had always been there and for the most part, nobody gave a shit. It is such an insignificant issue, it has next to no bearing on overall readiness. I'm gay. I lived in military towns. I knew gay military. Remember that fiasco in Beaufort SC? Where there was a "sting" type operation and they attempted to purge the corps of lesbians? They made a movie about it. The book was called "Conduct unbecoming" I was there. I knew those people. I knew all the details and distortions, how it was presented in the press, yada yada. NCIS (its not like on TV) followed people around, staked out places in Beaufort SC where they may go, like Jay's place, and The Yankee". They didn't have people there to investigate murders like on TV. It was all about teh ghey. The WM's didn't acknowledge my presence in public because they thought it would put a target on their back. Ironically I wasn't in the military, nobody gave a shit about me and nobody got kicked out because of me. I've had a few relationships with women Marines, know a lot of Marines of both genders and orientations. I (and others) would pretend to be involved with a gay person of the opposite sex for cover. There were even a couple of fake marriages. So they absofuckinglutly gave a shit. GD gives a shit too, I've been here a long time, I read the threads of obsession with teh ghey. You can find them at any moment on the first page. They care about them in the military, they care about them on TV sitcoms. . . the top 3 GD triggers are, black people, women, and teh ghey. I don't know which one GD hates worse. But I don't care about that. My skin is so hard it's now a chitonous exoskeleton. But don't piss on my head and tell me it's raining. The military cared about the orientation of it's members so much they had investigators whose sole purpose was to follow people around and catch them. We get it, you don't like Trump. Don't pretend all of a sudden nobody cares about trannys in the suck. |
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Posted: 12/21/2018 12:15:56 PM EDT
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I admit Mattis did appear to be a bit of a leftie but Cincinnatus has been in the military for 32 years and he says otherwise. So who am I supposed to fucking believe...…..my limited knowledge of only "knowing" him based solely on seeing him on TV, etc., or someone who has been active military for 32 years who might ACTUALLY know him? I would imagine most people would rely on Cincinnatus's opinion over mine...…...right? |
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Posted: 12/21/2018 12:16:10 PM EDT
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Who cares? See, people like you are the problem. The John McCain's of the world. There's not an acre out in the rest of the world worth the blood of an American G. I. Why don't you and all of your kin go fight these worthless dick measuring contests? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm conflicted. I liked mattis, I also dont mind seeing Joes come home to their families with all of their arms and legs. I think there are wars worth fighting, but we need to choose them carefully and get out as quickly as we can. So leaving Syria doesn't bother me...it also doesn't mean we can go back if need be or just adjust our foot print as needed. If ISIS wasn't the reason we were there...what geopolitical imperative was worth our effort? See, people like you are the problem. The John McCain's of the world. There's not an acre out in the rest of the world worth the blood of an American G. I. Why don't you and all of your kin go fight these worthless dick measuring contests? If the US does not stand up in these countries, China will. See how great America stays when it's cut off at the knees. |
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Posted: 12/21/2018 12:19:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: RDak, this post from you is so on-brand; I've never seen a single post ("tell me what to believe!") so completely summarize a poster's entire body of work on this site. So if we are talking about Mattis I gotta rely on his opinion more than mine. What do you think of Mattis?
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Posted: 12/21/2018 12:21:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do they? "Mattis is the last brake on a president that makes major life-and-death decisions by whim without reading, deliberation, or any thought as to consequences and risks," said a senior U.S. national-security official on Thursday, who spoke on the condition of anonymity in order to talk freely. "The saving grace is that this president has not been tested by a major national-security crisis. But it will come, and when it does, we are fucked." 
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Posted: 12/21/2018 12:22:42 PM EDT
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The "if you don't agree with me you're a democrat" line is so worn out... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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... If you're throwing a tantrum over his exit, you're in the company of Democrats and NeverTrumpers. Think about that. |
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Posted: 12/21/2018 12:33:47 PM EDT
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You're missing the big picture. If the US does not stand up in these countries, China will. See how great America stays when it's cut off at the knees. If we're still at this stage after 17 years maybe we did something wrong. |
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Posted: 12/21/2018 12:38:51 PM EDT
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Most of edumacated GDers seem to think that political affiliations are completely digital too. If they don't meet up with 100% of their beliefs/tenets then you're instantly a communist soyboy fag. |
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Posted: 12/21/2018 12:43:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: BS on both your cherry-pickings, Mattis played interference as long as he could on the Tranny business (kept them in place 6 months) and has made consistent claims regarding climate change while SECDEF; now do CNAS/Flournoy, that should be good. You fell for a service meme, but you'll double-down before admitting it. |
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Posted: 12/21/2018 12:43:46 PM EDT
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We all know who Mattis was wanting to defend. Trump wasnt having it
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Posted: 12/21/2018 12:45:36 PM EDT
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Who will replace him? My guess... 1) Pompeo 2) Shanahan (current Deputy) 3) Random Fox News Retired General Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So Mattis wasn't all that irreplaceable after all. My guess... 1) Pompeo 2) Shanahan (current Deputy) 3) Random Fox News Retired General :) 8nBAIT |
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Posted: 12/21/2018 12:50:15 PM EDT
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I think it is interesting how people are just making shit up about Mattis' handling of transgender policy, or are so dedicated to kissing Trump's ass that they can't do their own research to find out whether or not that Baby Boomer meme on Mattis is true.
I don't know if it is deliberate misinformation, stupidity, or because people get their news from Facebook. Or, even, a mixture of all three. Mattis didn't screw anything up with the transgender issue. In fact, he handled it better than anyone ever dreamed the admin would be able to. Effectively, all the lawsuits and litigation are now dead. So, a Federal Court judge is NOT going to be the one who makes DoD policy. Mattis put together a study group with officers and enlisted, but he more or less let VP Pence and Perkins run the show. They came up with a policy that lets the current people serving stay in (this was to satisfy current court injunctions and settle the cases), cuts off surgeries after a certain date (deadline has already passed), doesn't let new transgender individuals join, and kicks out anyone serving who comes out as transgender. I know GD prefers that all trans, gay, and lesbian people get tossed out of helicopters, but that's a moronic fantasy unhinged from the real world and federal court orders. Mattis didn't fuck up anything with transgender service members. On the contrary, he allowed DoD to thread a needle and to implement the policy that Trump wanted. Pence and Perkins did the report for Mattis. |
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Posted: 12/21/2018 12:50:40 PM EDT
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I wonder what the general's reaction would have been if his military subordinates had responded, "I'll look into it." when he gave them orders. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: BS on both your cherry-pickings, Mattis played interference as long as he could on the Tranny business (kept them in place 6 months) and has made consistent claims regarding climate change while SECDEF; now do CNAS/Flournoy, that should be good. You fell for a service meme, but you'll double-down before admitting it. They might have even looked into whether it was a lawful order. They might have responded with questions, to refine the General's Tweet and to see how to go about making it a formal policy. If they wanted to do everything possible to execute the General's Tweet, they would probably have done an analysis of the task to see about policy implications and any 2nd and 3rd order effects. It would not have served the General well, had they simply saluted and said, "aye aye, Sir!" |
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Posted: 12/21/2018 12:54:02 PM EDT
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Military Industrial Complex unhappy with Trump. |
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Posted: 12/21/2018 12:56:13 PM EDT
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Sounds a lot like it. Just remember who wanted us to send troops to Syria. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Military Industrial Complex unhappy with Trump. We still might be in there fighting ISIS, but there wouldn't be any Russians there. |
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Posted: 12/21/2018 12:57:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Had we pounded the crap out of Assad, after he crossed Obama's "red line," we would be in a different situation altogether. We still might be in there fighting ISIS, but there wouldn't be any Russians there. |
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Posted: 12/21/2018 12:59:01 PM EDT
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Seems like we are just going to have to live with Assad...……. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Had we pounded the crap out of Assad, after he crossed Obama's "red line," we would be in a different situation altogether. We still might be in there fighting ISIS, but there wouldn't be any Russians there. Then Obama invited the Russians in to "help" get rid of the chemical weapons. |
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Posted: 12/21/2018 1:01:12 PM EDT
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Once upon a time, regime change was our policy. Then Obama invited the Russians in to "help" get rid of the chemical weapons. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: Had we pounded the crap out of Assad, after he crossed Obama's "red line," we would be in a different situation altogether. We still might be in there fighting ISIS, but there wouldn't be any Russians there. Then Obama invited the Russians in to "help" get rid of the chemical weapons. 
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Posted: 12/21/2018 1:01:52 PM EDT
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While you are not wrong about the first part, they absolutely gave a shit. I'm gay. I lived in military towns. I knew gay military. Remember that fiasco in Beaufort SC? Where there was a "sting" type operation and they attempted to purge the corps of lesbians? They made a movie about it. The book was called "Conduct unbecoming" I was there. I knew those people. I knew all the details and distortions, how it was presented in the press, yada yada. NCIS (its not like on TV) followed people around, staked out places in Beaufort SC where they may go, like Jay's place, and The Yankee". They didn't have people there to investigate murders like on TV. It was all about teh ghey. The WM's didn't acknowledge my presence in public because they thought it would put a target on their back. Ironically I wasn't in the military, nobody gave a shit about me and nobody got kicked out because of me. I've had a few relationships with women Marines, know a lot of Marines of both genders and orientations. I (and others) would pretend to be involved with a gay person of the opposite sex for cover. There were even a couple of fake marriages. So they absofuckinglutly gave a shit. GD gives a shit too, I've been here a long time, I read the threads of obsession with teh ghey. You can find them at any moment on the first page. They care about them in the military, they care about them on TV sitcoms. . . the top 3 GD triggers are, black people, women, and teh ghey. I don't know which one GD hates worse. But I don't care about that. My skin is so hard it's now a chitonous exoskeleton. But don't piss on my head and tell me it's raining. The military cared about the orientation of it's members so much they had investigators whose sole purpose was to follow people around and catch them. We get it, you don't like Trump. Don't pretend all of a sudden nobody cares about trannys in the suck. But you're right....I just mentioned in my post above that GD would prefer to toss gays, lesbians, and transexuals out of helicopters if they could. Personally, I don't give a shit about someone's bedroom activity, their gender, or what they do, and who they do it with. Other than having a strong belief there are only two genders, I don't really give a shit about the rest as long as it doesn't infringe on my rights. Don't make churches marry people or a cake shop bake a cake. Of course it isn't that simple because of SJWs and other factors, but in my ideal world that's how it would work. |
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