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Posted: 12/23/2018 5:56:46 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/23/2018 5:58:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He said decimated in Syria. ISIS held and controlled many towns and districts for years in Syria had a pretty large ground force spread throughout over 40,000. Now they are down to less then 600 fighters and are holed up in one small town which is surrounded by Russian and Syrian forces. Its time for our guys to leave Syria, they can clean up the rest. https://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2018/11/us-backed-forces-launch-counterattack-against-islamic-state-in-eastern-syria.php  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/23/2018 7:10:54 PM EDT
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I imagine the President is reacted to a withdraw timeline of never and a request for a few hundred billion more in $$ to support securing Afghanistan from the same guys who didn't want to put US troops on the southern border. Pretty much what Bannon and Prince predicted when the brain trust sold the plan to President Trump in 2017. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: Read it. You’re wrong. And think about what you’re saying. Mattis, Kelly and Pence all trying to convince the a President to maintain HIS policy. Is there a chance that the President is....wrong? Do you believe that US policy is whatever the President Tweets? President Trump Shifts on Afghanistan After Being Lobbied By, Pence, Mattis, Kelly, and the Bald Back Stabbing Prick. Trump, who once backed withdrawal from Afghanistan, tries to sell the nation on deeper involvement By BRIAN BENNETT and NOAH BIERMAN AUG 21, 2017 | 8:10 PM | WASHINGTON ------------------------------------- VP Pence came out from a foreign trip early to lobby the President. Lots of promises were made by the DOD and the ones involved about what could be done. Bannon and other key supporters were upset at the President letting the US be drawn in deeper into Afghanistan. Erik Prince statted the President had been sold a bill of goods, he outlined why the ramp up would not change the situation and laid out things that could have been done to get the US out. He was vocal that the President was getting sold the same policies and strategies that had failed for 15 years. The article points out that campaign rhetoric is often based on ignorance. The Oresident learned this, but has now forgotten.. That Trump at one time recognized the need to surge makes this even worse. He knows that it’s wrong to leave when the shitheads are on the ropes, yet he wants to anyhow. This is arbitrary by any definition of the word. This is the Obama policy, but more reckless. |
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Posted: 12/23/2018 7:15:39 PM EDT
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He said decimated in Syria. ISIS held and controlled many towns and districts for years in Syria had a pretty large ground force spread throughout over 40,000. Now they are down to less then 600 fighters and are holed up in one small town which is surrounded by Russian and Syrian forces. Its time for our guys to leave Syria, they can clean up the rest. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: “Decimating ISIS”? That’s our metric for victory? 10%? That’s not annihilation. What you are describing is the Obama policy of degradation and leading from the rear. Trump has been briefed on this. He knows that ISIS is far from “defeated.” |
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Posted: 12/23/2018 7:56:05 PM EDT
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Trump has abandoned the policy of “annihilation” and has retreated to the Obama policy of merely “degrading” ISIS. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 12/23/2018 8:45:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The President may respect Kelly, but Kelly was deeply involved in lobbying the President to continue and expend US troop presence in Afghanistan with VP Pence, Mattis, the Bald Dickhead, and others. Kelly still believed that more time & US troops would work in Afghanistan. I am sure Kelly, Pence, and probably Mattis believed it. The Bald Dickhead, who knows WTF goes on that clown's mind. |
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Posted: 12/23/2018 8:58:14 PM EDT
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Who is the bald dickhead? https://www.npr.org/2018/03/22/593283104/trump-national-security-adviser-h-r-mcmaster-to-resign-be-replaced-by-john-bolto |
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Posted: 12/23/2018 9:01:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/23/2018 9:06:13 PM EDT
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Oh boy, Andy is notoriously anti deep state
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Posted: 12/23/2018 9:12:49 PM EDT
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MSNBC is shameless. The level of hypocrisy is beyond description
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Posted: 12/23/2018 9:58:38 PM EDT
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If I go back to early November will DOD Press Briefings talk about ISIS being crushed or destroyed on their last legs or simply degraded? Will GO be bragging about rolling up ISIS or simply stating they were merely degraded and still a regional threat that required more forces to finish the job? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 12/24/2018 12:41:51 AM EDT
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Go back this fall to the DoD testimony before the SSCI. They could not have been more clear about the fact that the gains were “vulnerable” and that we had “a tough fight ahead.” Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 12/24/2018 1:50:31 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/24/2018 1:56:44 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/24/2018 10:17:50 AM EDT
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Basically the same thing they been saying about Afghanistan for the last 15 years. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 12/24/2018 10:21:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryISIS is defeated.
Turkey WILL defeat ISIS. See the contradiction? Turkey doesn’t care about defeating ISIS. Turkey wants to defeat the Kurds. Syria and Russia don’t want to defeat ISIS. They want to defeat the FSA and Assad’s opponents in the Syrian civil war. |
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Posted: 12/24/2018 10:25:06 AM EDT
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Read it. You’re wrong. And think about what you’re saying. Mattis, Kelly and Pence all trying to convince the a President to maintain HIS policy. Is there a chance that the President is....wrong? Do you believe that US policy is whatever the President Tweets? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I am beginning to think Mattis should have been fired. April 2018 President Trump orders DOD to plan withdraw from Syria. Trump instructs military to begin planning for withdrawal from Syria By Karen DeYoung and Shane Harris April 4 President Trump has instructed military leaders to withdraw U.S. troops from Syria as soon as possible and told them he wants Arab allies to take over and pay for stabilizing and reconstructing areas liberated from the Islamic State, according to senior U.S. officials. In a meeting with top national security aides Tuesday, Trump backtracked on his public insistence that the troop exit was imminent, now that the militants were “close to 100 percent” defeated. Pressed by the president to tell him how much more time they needed to finish the job, Defense Secretary Jim Mattis and Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Joseph F. Dunford Jr. said it would probably be months, not years, officials said. Trump agreed that the military, as fighting continued against remaining militant pockets, could train local security forces. But officials said he stressed that U.S. strategic goals in Syria do not include longer-term stability or reconstruction efforts. He said he did not want to be having the same conversation about withdrawal six months or more from now. -------------------------------------------------- So the President was not pulling the rug out from under the allies. He has been making it clear for months we were coming out soon, and Gen Mattis was being...insubordinate. He was following the President’s instructions to the letter. It was to be “conditions based” and up to the commanders to determine when it was time. The President insisted that it would not be an arbitrary timeline. Also, essential to executing the President’s instructions was to turn the mission over to our allies. You can’t ask your allies to take over OUR mission, while stabbing them in the back. Mattis knew this. The process, the engagement with our allies, and the metrics for the transition were all being executed EXACTLY as the President instructed, and 100% in accordance with HIS “conditions-based” requirements. No “a few months” nonsense. THAT is arbitrary and contrary to what the President and his spokesperson specifically said. The President’s policy was “conditions based” and “annihilation.” Without telling his National Security staff, he changed it back to the arbitrary timelines and feckless Obama policy of degradation. Sad! And think about what you’re saying. Mattis, Kelly and Pence all trying to convince the a President to maintain HIS policy. Is there a chance that the President is....wrong? Do you believe that US policy is whatever the President Tweets? 
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Posted: 12/24/2018 10:30:13 AM EDT
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Trump is throwing America under the bus if we do not maintain a state of perpetual war for at least the next 30 years.
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Posted: 12/24/2018 11:41:28 AM EDT
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Trump is throwing America under the bus if we do not maintain a state of perpetual war for at least the next 30 years. 
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Posted: 12/24/2018 11:55:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Basically the same thing they been saying about Afghanistan for the last 15 years. |
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Posted: 12/24/2018 12:15:18 PM EDT
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Still reeling over Obongo and his firing of Mattis……..so...…….if Mattis just gave him plans on how to bomb areas of WMD's and that DID start a war...…….then...…...wait for it...…….Obongo would have fired Mattis for NOT informing him it would start a war and having a strategy for that outcome.  |
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Posted: 12/24/2018 12:18:34 PM EDT
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No Obama was asking Mattis to do the impossible....... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Still reeling over Obongo and his firing of Mattis……..so...…….if Mattis just gave him plans on how to bomb areas of WMD's and that DID start a war...…….then...…...wait for it...…….Obongo would have fired Mattis for NOT informing him it would start a war and having a strategy for that outcome. More to point, Obama didn’t really understand WHAT he was asking for. |
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Posted: 12/24/2018 12:18:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No Obama was asking Mattis to do the impossible....... In that regard it was an impossible situation. |
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Posted: 12/24/2018 12:21:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes. More to point, Obama didn’t really understand WHAT he was asking for. He thought he understood and was incapable of hearing he was wrong apparently. |
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Posted: 12/24/2018 12:28:41 PM EDT
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 Attached File Attached FileFAST FORWARD TO 4:30 MARK MEADOWS AND JIM JORDAN SAY DIFFERENTLY  Partial government shutdown to begin after Congress adjourns early |
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Posted: 12/24/2018 12:47:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes. More to point, Obama didn’t really understand WHAT he was asking for. |
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Posted: 12/24/2018 12:49:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ISIS is defeated. Turkey WILL defeat ISIS. See the contradiction? Turkey doesn’t care about defeating ISIS. Turkey wants to defeat the Kurds. Syria and Russia don’t want to defeat ISIS. They want to defeat the FSA and Assad’s opponents in the Syrian civil war.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 12/24/2018 12:57:42 PM EDT
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I’m just going to throw this turd out there....
I believe President Trump is trying to trade a war for a wall. And I think he’s been sold the idea that Prinz Inc and the SA /UAE can deal with Syria and AFG. Trump wants a wall bad enough to go along with it. |
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Posted: 12/24/2018 12:59:01 PM EDT
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I’m just going to throw this turd out there.... I believe President Trump is trying to trade a war for a wall. And I think he’s been sold the idea that Prinz Inc and the SA /UAE can deal with Syria and AFG. Trump wants a wall bad enough to go along with it. |
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Posted: 12/24/2018 1:03:45 PM EDT
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I have thought of that but can using military budgeted funds for a Wall end up before a Hawaiian judge??? Partial government shutdown to begin after Congress adjourns early  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/24/2018 1:13:13 PM EDT
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I keep hearing about how we need to keep at it until we annihilate ISIS and all the other bad guys.... I've been hearing that for 15 years... and it has kept us in a perpetual state of conflict....
I have also heard many times, that we are "This close" to wiping a certain group out... yet we never do.... Me thinks that it is time to stop this Blueprint, as it is a sham. |
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Posted: 12/24/2018 1:31:13 PM EDT
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I'm just going to throw this turd out there.... I believe President Trump is trying to trade a war for a wall. And I think he's been sold the idea that Prinz Inc and the SA /UAE can deal with Syria and AFG. Trump wants a wall bad enough to go along with it. Nations cannot be built by outside forces, we can blow stuff up and kill people but the citizens of any potential nation have to build thier own society. If the people aren't ready willing and able to do that it's just chaos and failure. If we aren't going to pick a side and kill everyone else we aren't going to be successful...and we aren't going to do that...so..its a waste. Let them kill each other, we call winners. We can't invade and occupy every nation that harbors terrorists. |
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Posted: 12/24/2018 2:19:33 PM EDT
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I have thought of that but can using military budgeted funds for a Wall end up before a Hawaiian judge??? |
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Posted: 12/24/2018 2:23:04 PM EDT
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He fundamentally doesn't see an end so cut your losses now and get out. I can't see a fault in the logic. We are quickly approaching the point where young people that weren't born yet could enlist and go fight in the war that started on 9/11. The one worth while, and achievable goal was met years ago. There are no further milestones worth blood and treasure that can be achieved in afganistan...Syria is almost worse..who are the "good guys" in syria? Nations cannot be built by outside forces, we can blow stuff up and kill people but the citizens of any potential nation have to build thier own society. If the people aren't ready willing and able to do that it's just chaos and failure. If we aren't going to pick a side and kill everyone else we aren't going to be successful...and we aren't going to do that...so..its a waste. Let them kill each other, we call winners. We can't invade and occupy every nation that harbors terrorists. |
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Posted: 12/24/2018 2:26:18 PM EDT
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Now you see the pieces of the puzzle coming together and why Trump didn't want to ditch MBS because the MSM said so.
 
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Posted: 12/24/2018 2:43:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/24/2018 3:22:02 PM EDT
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Now you see the pieces of the puzzle coming together and why Trump didn't want to ditch MBS because the MSM said so. https://screenshotscdn.firefoxusercontent.com/images/725f521c-456b-43e5-ad33-8d62ed7375a5.png https://screenshotscdn.firefoxusercontent.com/images/90c59421-bdd3-4148-929b-66e61d43e531.png |
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Posted: 12/24/2018 3:27:01 PM EDT
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He’s right but it’s irrelevent. Saudi Arabia rarely follows through on anything. They can’t even manage Yemen which they consider vital to their border and national security. Saudi Arabia has made tons of claims about Lebanon, Syria, etc. in the past but they don’t follow through. Ask for Turkey help get Turkey problems. Expect Saudi help get Saudi problems. In the end you have to decide if it’s worth your national interest or not, accept the risks if you say it’s not. Another 9/11 happens but you say ah fuck it, we saved a lot of $ and American military casualties so it’s just the cost of doing business. We’ll take the loss and life goes on or if you can’t do that then commit and push hard for the best deal you can from lackluster or incompetent allies trying to scam you getting a free ride off your gravy train There is always going to be acts of Terrorism that we are not going to be able to stop... Us being all over the world killing select Bad guys is not going to change that.. and I have History on my side to prove it. |
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Posted: 12/24/2018 3:42:42 PM EDT
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He fundamentally doesn't see an end so cut your losses now and get out. I can't see a fault in the logic. We are quickly approaching the point where young people that weren't born yet could enlist and go fight in the war that started on 9/11. The one worth while, and achievable goal was met years ago. There are no further milestones worth blood and treasure that can be achieved in afganistan...Syria is almost worse..who are the "good guys" in syria? Nations cannot be built by outside forces, we can blow stuff up and kill people but the citizens of any potential nation have to build thier own society. If the people aren't ready willing and able to do that it's just chaos and failure. If we aren't going to pick a side and kill everyone else we aren't going to be successful...and we aren't going to do that...so..its a waste. Let them kill each other, we call winners. We can't invade and occupy every nation that harbors terrorists.  Muslim birth rates 40 more years to go. They’re popping em out like pez dispensers. Wanna end Islamic terrorism? Stave off today’s jihadists and come up with a plan to get their birth rates down  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/24/2018 4:14:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I get that, but using "Another 9/11" as justification to keep feeding the machine is no different then how we built up the Soviet threat in the Cold war to keep getting bigger and more expensive Military. At what point do we break that cycle. There is always going to be acts of Terrorism that we are not going to be able to stop... Us being all over the world killing select Bad guys is not going to change that.. and I have History on my side to prove it. |
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Posted: 12/24/2018 4:16:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/24/2018 4:22:13 PM EDT
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We are in Syria, because it is in OUR interests.
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Posted: 12/24/2018 4:47:47 PM EDT
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There are no good guys in Syria not even the YPG PKK Kurds but if you think they’ll only fight each other after we leave and forget about us, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you. Lebanon is the best example of a nation in the Mideast completely sick of endless war. Yet Hezbollah roams Lebanon at will and isis cut off some Lebanese soldiers heads on the border with Syria. I’ll keep saying it till it’s a dead horse Muslim birth rates 40 more years to go. They’re popping em out like pez dispensers. Wanna end Islamic terrorism? Stave off today’s jihadists and come up with a plan to get their birth rates down https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/459941/5266405B-973B-42C4-BE55-972C23A813A1_png-783899.JPGQuote HistoryQuoted:
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He fundamentally doesn't see an end so cut your losses now and get out. I can't see a fault in the logic. We are quickly approaching the point where young people that weren't born yet could enlist and go fight in the war that started on 9/11. The one worth while, and achievable goal was met years ago. There are no further milestones worth blood and treasure that can be achieved in afganistan...Syria is almost worse..who are the "good guys" in syria? Nations cannot be built by outside forces, we can blow stuff up and kill people but the citizens of any potential nation have to build thier own society. If the people aren't ready willing and able to do that it's just chaos and failure. If we aren't going to pick a side and kill everyone else we aren't going to be successful...and we aren't going to do that...so..its a waste. Let them kill each other, we call winners. We can't invade and occupy every nation that harbors terrorists. Muslim birth rates 40 more years to go. They’re popping em out like pez dispensers. Wanna end Islamic terrorism? Stave off today’s jihadists and come up with a plan to get their birth rates down https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/459941/5266405B-973B-42C4-BE55-972C23A813A1_png-783899.JPGChina is a dumb exception. |
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Posted: 12/24/2018 5:06:01 PM EDT
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Birth rates are almost inextricably linked to standard of living. Raise their standard of living and birth rates will fall. Lower western standard of living and birth rates will rise in the west. China is a dumb exception.  Middle class squeezed as California free-falls  Attached Filehttps://www.livescience.com/62592-birth-rate-declines-2017.html  Attached File Analysis: Yes, President Trump gets credit for the economy |
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Posted: 12/24/2018 5:22:18 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/24/2018 7:59:28 PM EDT
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I disagree with the USSR assessment but it doesn’t really matter either way. As long as Americans with open eyes say yes if there ever is another 9/11 we can accept that as a consequence of not feeding the war machine. Okay, I’m good with it. The panic in 2014 only reminded me of 2008 and everyone saying fuck that place, let’s get out of there. Make up your minds. If getting out in 2008 is good then why go back in 2014? Accept the consequence. Accept Chinese domination of the Pacific and all that goes with it like North Korean nuclear ICBMs and just build a better Star Wars anti ballistic shield to intercept any possible nuclear attacks if they ever come our way. Leave Theoretically we could have avoided WW2 if we just let Imperial Japan do it’s thing or rebuilt Hawaii. Improved defense of the Hawaiian islands and just stayed defensive. They only attacked the Aleutians, Santa Barbara and Oregon after Pearl Harbor. So just beef up West Coast defenses and don’t bother island hopping the Pacific back to Tokyo. Hitler didn’t even attack the USA. More American forces were dedicated to Europe than Japan. What’s that about? So basically same shit the last couple of Administrations told us.... Got it. Me thinks Eisenhower was correct regarding the Industrial Military complex.... |
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Posted: 12/24/2018 8:28:34 PM EDT
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So basically, we need to stay in a perpetual state of combat because the world is scary.. China is going to dominate.. Muslim's are going to out birth us... Iran and N Korea are going to Nuke us.... So basically same shit the last couple of Administrations told us.... Got it. Me thinks Eisenhower was correct regarding the Industrial Military complex.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I disagree with the USSR assessment but it doesn’t really matter either way. As long as Americans with open eyes say yes if there ever is another 9/11 we can accept that as a consequence of not feeding the war machine. Okay, I’m good with it. The panic in 2014 only reminded me of 2008 and everyone saying fuck that place, let’s get out of there. Make up your minds. If getting out in 2008 is good then why go back in 2014? Accept the consequence. Accept Chinese domination of the Pacific and all that goes with it like North Korean nuclear ICBMs and just build a better Star Wars anti ballistic shield to intercept any possible nuclear attacks if they ever come our way. Leave Theoretically we could have avoided WW2 if we just let Imperial Japan do it’s thing or rebuilt Hawaii. Improved defense of the Hawaiian islands and just stayed defensive. They only attacked the Aleutians, Santa Barbara and Oregon after Pearl Harbor. So just beef up West Coast defenses and don’t bother island hopping the Pacific back to Tokyo. Hitler didn’t even attack the USA. More American forces were dedicated to Europe than Japan. What’s that about? So basically same shit the last couple of Administrations told us.... Got it. Me thinks Eisenhower was correct regarding the Industrial Military complex.... It is a burden we must bear. Do you disagree? |
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We are in Syria, because it is in OUR interests. Saudi Arabia, Turkey, or the Kurds will always look after THEIR interests. |
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