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Posted: 2/23/2022 2:37:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What is a decent price for 7.62x39? When GD is buying it? .002 cents per round. When GD is selling it on the EE or gunbroker? Around 2.50. |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 2:40:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm going to buy ammo from him and then throw it in the trash I'm going to buy another DA/SA just to use the ammo i'm going to buy from him. |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 2:42:21 PM EDT
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SGAmmo is an interesting company. It’s a bit dramatic at times and no bullshit in others. It’s not exactly my preference to have the drama built into the merchant experience but it works for SG.
SGAmmo threads in GD are always good for entertainment though. |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 2:44:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I bet you’re fun at parties. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: $189 ÷ 1,000 = $0.189 or 19 cents per round Correct. 19 cents per round, not .19 cents per round. BIG difference. Owning 50 guns isn't the same as owning .50 guns. I bet you’re fun at parties. 
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Posted: 2/23/2022 2:50:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So he's gonna price gouge? Tell me you like price controls, with out telling me you are communist. |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 2:54:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 7.62x51, 7.62x54 or 7.62x39? About the same time I was buying the $3.00 5.56, a Chinese SKS was going for $75 and a 1440 round case of 7.62x39 was $60. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Sam was telling people to buy when russian .223 got down to .18 cents per round and it wouldn't go any lower. Now "he's"......pRiCe gOWJinG Lmao...people never learn.  .223 has NEVER been under a quarter of a cent per round. Never is a long time. I used to buy 5.56 m193 in 20 round kraft boxes for $3.00. Can't remember if it was Federal or IMI, of course this was in the mid eighties. But then again I remember five gallons of gas for $1.00. Yeah, I'm old.  You remember 7.62 at 4 for a penny? 7.62x51, 7.62x54 or 7.62x39? About the same time I was buying the $3.00 5.56, a Chinese SKS was going for $75 and a 1440 round case of 7.62x39 was $60. Ahhh, the salad days. I bought a Chinese SKS and that case of ammo for 69$ each at a show. |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 3:09:53 PM EDT
[#7]
Now is a good time to buy brass, if you haven't already.
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Posted: 2/23/2022 3:19:50 PM EDT
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There is Wolf X39 Steel Case for $0.40 / $399.00/1000 Shipped out there for purchase RFN. Sam can do what he feels best for his business. Why all the hate for the free market? Commie infiltrators maybe?
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Posted: 2/23/2022 3:21:39 PM EDT
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I don't care about SG taking ammo off and uploading it at higher prices as I do him misrepresenting the Russian Ammo Ban situation when the news broke as if the next day we weren't getting anymore ammo.
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Posted: 2/23/2022 3:26:01 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There is Wolf X39 Steel Case for $0.40 / $399.00/1000 Shipped out there for purchase RFN. Sam can do what he feels best for his business. Why all the hate for the free market? Commie infiltrators maybe? 1. Plenty of ammo is available still for .30-.35 on other sites as we speak 2. Last time I check capitalism is about supply and DEMAND. Us complaining would be part of the demand factor 3. We are talking about a situation were importation is banned. how in the fuck is that anything resembling a "free market" |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 3:28:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We've always said here that ammo is a good investment. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That's my guess. When imports are cut off, he can sell stock at more $$. Only a good investment for non businesses are okay on arfcom |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 3:30:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 1. Plenty of ammo is available still for .30-.35 on other sites as we speak 2. Last time I check capitalism is about supply and DEMAND. Us complaining would be part of the demand factor 3. We are talking about a situation were importation is banned. how in the fuck is that anything resembling a "free market" Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: There is Wolf X39 Steel Case for $0.40 / $399.00/1000 Shipped out there for purchase RFN. Sam can do what he feels best for his business. Why all the hate for the free market? Commie infiltrators maybe? 1. Plenty of ammo is available still for .30-.35 on other sites as we speak 2. Last time I check capitalism is about supply and DEMAND. Us complaining would be part of the demand factor 3. We are talking about a situation were importation is banned. how in the fuck is that anything resembling a "free market" Imports in particular don't have anything to do with free market... Communist America is here |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 3:31:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: SGAmmo is an interesting company. It’s a bit dramatic at times and no bullshit in others. It’s not exactly my preference to have the drama built into the merchant experience but it works for SG. SGAmmo threads in GD are always good for entertainment though. The trump slump emails were definitely dire, 2020 hit and kicked off his very professional "I fucking told you to buy cheap" email (not being sarcastic, it was very professional and straightforward, but the message was clear  ), and since then his prices haven't been too competitive as TSUSA and others get stock in. It's a bummer, because I've never had a bad experience with the place. Just isn't competitive right now.
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Posted: 2/23/2022 3:31:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm going to buy another DA/SA just to use the ammo i'm going to buy from him. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm going to buy ammo from him and then throw it in the trash I'm going to buy another DA/SA just to use the ammo i'm going to buy from him. NOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 3:32:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd say pre-2020 if you asked about ammo GD would (rightfully, IMO) tell you to go to SG first and second just to make sure you didn't miss something. The trump slump emails were definitely dire, 2020 hit and kicked off his very professional "I fucking told you to buy cheap" email (not being sarcastic, it was very professional and straightforward, but the message was clear ), and since then his prices haven't been too competitive as TSUSA and others get stock in. It's a bummer, because I've never had a bad experience with the place. Just isn't competitive right now.)Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: SGAmmo is an interesting company. It’s a bit dramatic at times and no bullshit in others. It’s not exactly my preference to have the drama built into the merchant experience but it works for SG. SGAmmo threads in GD are always good for entertainment though. The trump slump emails were definitely dire, 2020 hit and kicked off his very professional "I fucking told you to buy cheap" email (not being sarcastic, it was very professional and straightforward, but the message was clear ), and since then his prices haven't been too competitive as TSUSA and others get stock in. It's a bummer, because I've never had a bad experience with the place. Just isn't competitive right now.)I wish I'd bought infinitely more and I have quite the ammo fort and maybe even more than one of them |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 3:34:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Imports in particular don't have anything to do with free market... Communist America is here How would they not? That's market regulation by the govt. I bet you think the Trump tariffs were "free market" too
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Posted: 2/23/2022 3:37:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How would they not? That's market regulation by the govt. I bet you think the Trump tariffs were "free market" too Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Imports in particular don't have anything to do with free market... Communist America is here How would they not? That's market regulation by the govt. I bet you think the Trump tariffs were "free market" too Never lived during a free economy, my parents or grandparents either |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 3:48:29 PM EDT
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How dare Sam do exactly what I would if I were him.
He needs to sell it to me at a loss so I can cash in or he is a greedy capitalist .
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Posted: 2/23/2022 3:56:15 PM EDT
[#19]
Ammoman FTW!
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Posted: 2/23/2022 3:56:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ammoman FTW! Old skool |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 4:01:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He lost a lot of respect by manipulating his inventory numbers. 10 in stock...7...3...1... Then 10 in stock again. When you sell ammo both by the box and the case, if you open a case to sell as individual boxes, the case count would drop by one while the individual box count would go up by individual number of boxes in the case. Right? |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 4:02:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Everyone is here deploying their Dooney & Bourke. I was just on SG's site. There was X39 there and available. Awesome. What's the country of manufacture? Go check, then come back here, read the thread title, and then let us know |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 4:05:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So he's gonna price gouge? The guy doesn't even know if he'll have anything to sell and already you are bitching about cheating people? Just get over yourself. |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 4:07:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. He's got a history of doing this So why are you buying Russian ammo? Does this make you a Russian Enabler? |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 4:10:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He sent emails for years saying "buy this shit while it's cheap". And he wasn't lying either. |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 4:18:28 PM EDT
[#26]
Guess I'm done buying through them. He can hold onto his inventory if he wants.
SG ammo hasn't been competitive since pre-COVID. Plenty of places to buy 7.62x39 for 30-35 CPR right now. |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 4:22:44 PM EDT
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When I was looking for 5.45 he was more expensive than CTD, actually CTD was the least expensive at the time. Peak ????
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Posted: 2/23/2022 4:29:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And he wasn't lying either. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: He sent emails for years saying "buy this shit while it's cheap". And he wasn't lying either. Seems people here were pissed when Sam told them to buy Now they are more piss that they can't I tell my guys (the ones I like). NOW is the cheapest things are going to get |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 4:32:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When you sell ammo both by the box and the case, if you open a case to sell as individual boxes, the case count would drop by one while the individual box count would go up by individual number of boxes in the case. Right? In theory, yes. But the inconsistencies were on certain ammo items. Specifically I watched the numbers re-roll on Serbian 7.62 x 54R. But the wooden crates that Serb x39 ammo was coming in were also for sale, and they were inventory listed in the 90s. When they run to zero, they go out of stock. Could be automated as some say, could be toyed with as I believe. Neither of us will be able to prove it. Without question he had on numerous occasions fanned fears of shortages in what almost certainly was intended to spark a run on sales. Since Covid first broke ammo has been retarded. That first run, plant shut downs, blm riots then the election. Then we had the ban on future imports in the summer of 2021. I simply can't understand how someone would continue to operate 'as usual' without considering the current volatility (and the flat out notification that your prime supplier is being cut) and not do any sort of forecasting or potential business modifications. -- The point that I was trying to make from my very first post was SG has played games before. Multiple re-hashes to that throughout the 7-8 pages, and i do appreciate you finding them before skipping to the end. I 'm having trouble finding all of the responses myself. -Not directed to Lumper - Too many here are the equivalent of the left in that "anything that disagrees with me is communist" instead of racist. Especially when 87% of them are the same ones who drool over aoc because of "dem tiddies". A self pronounced socialist who has said she wants to take your guns, your home, your meat, and your car. They are going to great lengths to denegrate anyone who mentions SG has conducted himself poorly in the past. What is essentially a carnival barker, who no one disagrees is no longer competitive today with the other options; over further sanctions that have not even occurred. I also saw many of you were upset that Texas LTC instructors lobbied against our Con-Carry bill before it passed. Trying to protect their business, remember? At least try to remain consistent in your faux admonitions. |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 4:33:07 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The guy doesn't even know if he'll have anything to sell and already you are bitching about cheating people? Just get over yourself. I feel different if he didn't jack up all the non-Russian stuff too |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 4:35:16 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So why are you buying Russian ammo? Does this make you a Russian Enabler? I really haven't since prior to 2016. As mentioned, I have over 50k in AK ammo in a shed down south, though I keep roughly 10k+/- here at my primary home. I did buy a lot of x54R in 2020 and 21, but it's a mix of Russian/Bulgarian/Serbian and sourced anywhere from the EE to yes, SG. |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 4:37:08 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In theory, yes. But the inconsistencies were on certain ammo items. Specifically I watched the numbers re-roll on Serbian 7.62 x 54R. But the wooden crates that Serb x39 ammo was coming in were also for sale, and they were inventory listed in the 90s. When they run to zero, they go out of stock. Could be automated as some say, could be toyed with as I believe. Neither of us will be able to prove it. Without question he had on numerous occasions fanned fears of shortages in what almost certainly was intended to spark a run on sales. Since Covid first broke ammo has been retarded. That first run, plant shut downs, blm riots then the election. Then we had the ban on future imports in the summer of 2021. I simply can't understand how someone would continue to operate 'as usual' without considering the current volatility (and the flat out notification that your prime supplier is being cut) and not do any sort of forecasting or potential business modifications. -- The point that I was trying to make from my very first post was SG has played games before. Multiple re-hashes to that throughout the 7-8 pages, and i do appreciate you finding them before skipping to the end. I 'm having trouble finding all of the responses myself. -Not directed to Lumper - Too many here are the equivalent of the left in that "anything that disagrees with me is communist". Especially when 87% of them are the same ones who drool over aoc because of "dem tiddies". A self pronounced socialist who has said she wants to take your guns, your home, your meat, and your car. They are going to great lengths to denegrate anyone who mentions SG has conducted himself poorly in the past. What is essentially a carnival barker, who no one disagrees is no longer competitive today with the other options; over further sanctions that have not even occurred. I also saw many of you were upset that Texas LTC instructors lobbied against our Con-Carry bill before it passed. Trying to protect their business, remember? At least try to remain consistent in your faux admonitions. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: When you sell ammo both by the box and the case, if you open a case to sell as individual boxes, the case count would drop by one while the individual box count would go up by individual number of boxes in the case. Right? In theory, yes. But the inconsistencies were on certain ammo items. Specifically I watched the numbers re-roll on Serbian 7.62 x 54R. But the wooden crates that Serb x39 ammo was coming in were also for sale, and they were inventory listed in the 90s. When they run to zero, they go out of stock. Could be automated as some say, could be toyed with as I believe. Neither of us will be able to prove it. Without question he had on numerous occasions fanned fears of shortages in what almost certainly was intended to spark a run on sales. Since Covid first broke ammo has been retarded. That first run, plant shut downs, blm riots then the election. Then we had the ban on future imports in the summer of 2021. I simply can't understand how someone would continue to operate 'as usual' without considering the current volatility (and the flat out notification that your prime supplier is being cut) and not do any sort of forecasting or potential business modifications. -- The point that I was trying to make from my very first post was SG has played games before. Multiple re-hashes to that throughout the 7-8 pages, and i do appreciate you finding them before skipping to the end. I 'm having trouble finding all of the responses myself. -Not directed to Lumper - Too many here are the equivalent of the left in that "anything that disagrees with me is communist". Especially when 87% of them are the same ones who drool over aoc because of "dem tiddies". A self pronounced socialist who has said she wants to take your guns, your home, your meat, and your car. They are going to great lengths to denegrate anyone who mentions SG has conducted himself poorly in the past. What is essentially a carnival barker, who no one disagrees is no longer competitive today with the other options; over further sanctions that have not even occurred. I also saw many of you were upset that Texas LTC instructors lobbied against our Con-Carry bill before it passed. Trying to protect their business, remember? At least try to remain consistent in your faux admonitions. Good God you probably should not shop with SG AMMO anymore |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 4:37:16 PM EDT
[#33]
I’m sitting on a goldmine of Ruskie GT ammo.
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Posted: 2/23/2022 4:39:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I feel different if he didn't jack up all the non-Russian stuff too Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The guy doesn't even know if he'll have anything to sell and already you are bitching about cheating people? Just get over yourself. I feel different if he didn't jack up all the non-Russian stuff too Ammo charity sales, where no profit is necessary |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 4:58:11 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ammo charity sales, where no profit is necessary Well he sold us ammo for the last 15 years at a 10-15% loss in his own words. Amazing how he was able to stay in business. 
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Posted: 2/23/2022 5:08:31 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well he sold us ammo for the last 15 years at a 10-15% loss in his own words. Amazing how he was able to stay in business. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ammo charity sales, where no profit is necessary Well he sold us ammo for the last 15 years at a 10-15% loss in his own words. Amazing how he was able to stay in business. He coulda sold it for more. Never been dissatisfied with SGammo service nor price at the time. Times are only getting tougher for ammo and prices and inflation overall will continue trending up |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 5:18:03 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: At least he's honest about it. |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 5:31:34 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: . Plenty of places to buy 7.62x39 for 30-35 CPR right now. Today. Give it a week and check again. I went buy some more Vympel 223 yesterday from another vendor and it's all gone. Bought some 762x39 instead, I know others who did the same. |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 5:36:07 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In theory, yes. But the inconsistencies were on certain ammo items. Specifically I watched the numbers re-roll on Serbian 7.62 x 54R. But the wooden crates that Serb x39 ammo was coming in were also for sale, and they were inventory listed in the 90s. When they run to zero, they go out of stock. Could be automated as some say, could be toyed with as I believe. Neither of us will be able to prove it. Without question he had on numerous occasions fanned fears of shortages in what almost certainly was intended to spark a run on sales. Since Covid first broke ammo has been retarded. That first run, plant shut downs, blm riots then the election. Then we had the ban on future imports in the summer of 2021. I simply can't understand how someone would continue to operate 'as usual' without considering the current volatility (and the flat out notification that your prime supplier is being cut) and not do any sort of forecasting or potential business modifications. -- The point that I was trying to make from my very first post was SG has played games before. Multiple re-hashes to that throughout the 7-8 pages, and i do appreciate you finding them before skipping to the end. I 'm having trouble finding all of the responses myself. -Not directed to Lumper - Too many here are the equivalent of the left in that "anything that disagrees with me is communist" instead of racist. Especially when 87% of them are the same ones who drool over aoc because of "dem tiddies". A self pronounced socialist who has said she wants to take your guns, your home, your meat, and your car. They are going to great lengths to denegrate anyone who mentions SG has conducted himself poorly in the past. What is essentially a carnival barker, who no one disagrees is no longer competitive today with the other options; over further sanctions that have not even occurred. I also saw many of you were upset that Texas LTC instructors lobbied against our Con-Carry bill before it passed. Trying to protect their business, remember? At least try to remain consistent in your faux admonitions. Holy frick. How have you done so much business with SG and not seen his explanation for his inventory? His inventory count on the website is done by the pallet, it counts down until the pallet is empty. Then it's either OOS or he opens up another pallet. |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 5:44:27 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So he's gonna price gouge? Nothing new lol, that website is famous for it. |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 5:48:16 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m sitting on a goldmine of Ruskie GT ammo. I sold off a bunch of old wolf and replaced it with GT. |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 5:49:44 PM EDT
[#42]
In this thread, we continue to see who has operated a retail business, and who has not.
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Posted: 2/23/2022 5:55:20 PM EDT
[#43]
Man there's a bunch of entitled crybabies on this site.
"I should be able to buy stuff with no profit to the seller." but "I'll sell my stuff on EE for above MSRP." 
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Posted: 2/23/2022 5:58:03 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Nothing new lol, that website is famous for it. "That website?" You're supposed to call him, "Sam." Like he is your best bud, and you go out drinking with him on Friday nights at the Country Music Bar. |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 5:58:58 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So he's gonna price gouge? No such thing. Price is determined by what the market will bear. No one is getting gouged. Purchasing an item or service is a transaction between two parties who voluntarily enter into the deal. If the price is too high don't buy. Problem solved. |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 6:03:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "That website?" You're supposed to call him, "Sam." Like he is your best bud, and you go out drinking with him on Friday nights at the Country Music Bar. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Nothing new lol, that website is famous for it. "That website?" You're supposed to call him, "Sam." Like he is your best bud, and you go out drinking with him on Friday nights at the Country Music Bar. 
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Posted: 2/23/2022 6:09:06 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/23/2022 6:11:57 PM EDT
[#48]
Snagged 4 spam cans from
Academy. Lucky me 
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Posted: 2/23/2022 6:18:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Man there's a bunch of entitled crybabies on this site. "I should be able to buy stuff with no profit to the seller." but "I'll sell my stuff on EE for above MSRP." https://c.tenor.com/4_OEXx-nA3gAAAAM/sad-baby.gif I don't see anyone saying they should be able to buy at cost. The primary concern here is manufactured panic, which is an unethical manipulation of the free market. In the stock market it would be a kind of pump and dump scheme. Hype up the product with half truths and rumors, then dump it at an inflated price. |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 6:19:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't see anyone saying they should be able to buy at cost. The primary concern here is manufactured panic, which is an unethical manipulation of the free market. In the stock market it would be a kind of pump and dump scheme. Hype up the product with half truths and rumors, then dump it at an inflated price. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Man there's a bunch of entitled crybabies on this site. "I should be able to buy stuff with no profit to the seller." but "I'll sell my stuff on EE for above MSRP." https://c.tenor.com/4_OEXx-nA3gAAAAM/sad-baby.gif I don't see anyone saying they should be able to buy at cost. The primary concern here is manufactured panic, which is an unethical manipulation of the free market. In the stock market it would be a kind of pump and dump scheme. Hype up the product with half truths and rumors, then dump it at an inflated price. So they are gonna import more Russian ammo???? |
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